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  • @UpchurchOfficial
    @UpchurchOfficial 4 місяці тому +282

    6:51 man that would be a dream come true

    • @Dan0TheMano
      @Dan0TheMano 4 місяці тому +13

      This went hard. 🫡

    • @derpyc.hoovesIV
      @derpyc.hoovesIV 4 місяці тому +2

      Quit editing reactors videos to lie to your fans about why they won't react to you anymore. Shit cringe as fuck.

    • @CliffBeatsOfficial
      @CliffBeatsOfficial  4 місяці тому +62

      Would love to see it. My brain couldn’t handle Church-aggedon 🔥 🔥 🙏

    • @MikeWhoo-gy5jq
      @MikeWhoo-gy5jq 4 місяці тому +31

      Lmao who’s earl Winslow lol not even gonna call that a diss track lol just another weak attempt by Ryan to clout chase lol Tom can’t even see him 😂

    • @jc-kj2on
      @jc-kj2on 4 місяці тому +22

      I dont understand how he puts out this stuff so fast and its straight killer line after line dayyyum

  • @JoeblowForever
    @JoeblowForever 4 місяці тому +104

    Tbh the message from Toms political rap LITERALLY effects my kids future and beyond and not enough people are aware of the silent war that’s happening. What Tom does is bigger than just music

    • @Daniels86711
      @Daniels86711 4 місяці тому +19

      His message might be important, but he doesn't genuinely believe any of it. He says what is going to trend, and plays on people's emotions about all these political issues to get a fan base. *shrug* He plays his fans like a fiddle to become famous.

    • @JoeLancaster
      @JoeLancaster 4 місяці тому +3

      I know the message etc is bad. But he's not that big, so I see it more as just cringe. I wouldn't worry about it.

    • @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing
      @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing 4 місяці тому +8

      Tom makes really bad rap music. Thats it. Period. Nothing else matters. Keep music as music and keep the politics to a fiar minimum, its fine here and there but it being the only thing he raps about makes him corny, and obviously he doesnt care about hip hop.

    • @JoeblowForever
      @JoeblowForever 4 місяці тому +8

      @@TheBibleIsaWeirdThing lol when you prove you don’t know what your taking about off rip I can’t take shit serious bout you… Toms biggest critics atleast admit he CAN rap

    • @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing
      @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing 4 місяці тому +5

      @@JoeblowForever He can "rap" sure, depending on your opinion of rapping. But objectively, he can't make good music to save his life. 😭 Lyrics are corny and dumb, he is just an Eminem clone, a very bad one at that. NF is a way better Eminem clone than Tom and NF isn't really my cup of tea either.

  • @Migmaw
    @Migmaw 4 місяці тому +56

    The lose yourself flip was funny as hell to me 😂. Stay blessed Cliff 👊🏼

    • @tierneylogan5943
      @tierneylogan5943 4 місяці тому +7

      Switching into Eminem from a brooks and dunn reference is why i will always love church 😅

    • @Migmaw
      @Migmaw 4 місяці тому +1

      @@tierneylogan5943 Definitely an original. There is nobody like UpChurch in music, Stay blessed 👊🏼

  • @wallszymusic
    @wallszymusic 4 місяці тому +47

    UpChurch’s wordplay is on another level. An Tom does tour because I’ve had afew chances to open for him.

    • @granite6196
      @granite6196 4 місяці тому

      Lmfao with your two likes? Bro you would have opened for no one then 😂
      Would have been an empty stadium since only you and and syrup sipper know about it

    • @BiffsEquipment
      @BiffsEquipment 4 місяці тому +4

      I just checked out your music and subscribed. I'm lovin what I heard keep it up!

    • @wallszymusic
      @wallszymusic 4 місяці тому +6

      @@BiffsEquipment Thanks BiffsEquipment! I appreciate you taking the time to listen. It means a lot! More to come soon 🙏💯💪

    • @Hamilton8122
      @Hamilton8122 4 місяці тому +4

      #hog4life

    • @macrocrypto112
      @macrocrypto112 4 місяці тому +3

      Go check tom tour 2024 and report back 😂😂😂

  • @berniewatts5028
    @berniewatts5028 4 місяці тому +15

    Your reactions to all these disses have been so much fun and entertaining. You don’t have to choose, you represent both. ❤️❤️❤️👵🏼

  • @spirit_shadow9590
    @spirit_shadow9590 4 місяці тому +15

    When you see 2 friends fighting you just gotta slap them both and tell them to stop being idiots 😂

    • @zionix15432
      @zionix15432 3 місяці тому +1

      theyve never been friends

  • @xytronitro9429
    @xytronitro9429 4 місяці тому +61

    "if a rapper gonna diss me, probably about to drop a new record". Huh. Interesting, Upchurch is about to to drop a new record!

    • @artevann7060
      @artevann7060 4 місяці тому +4

      He's not attacking Tom because of that. He's calling him out for his gimmicky hypocrisy. I'm sure it made Ryan feel some sort of way for him saying guys guys were gonna put country rap on the map. Especially since he already said. "I'm not country rap, I don't drive a truck, I don't chew tobacco, get the Chevy stuck in feet of mud. He's calling him out too for being a lying hypocrite poser who's all image. Needless to say , I like both Tom and Ryan but upchurch does have a point. He's a gimmick stealing chameleon who cares more about making money and talking the talk.. but not walking the walk.

    • @scottbushman9050
      @scottbushman9050 4 місяці тому +1

      @xytronitro9429 YEP!! I totally agree!! And @artevann7060 You might be right about Upchurch thinking or feeling a kind of way about MacDonald’s songs or statements…. But right now we’re talking about why he chose to make & release this diss track RIGHT NOW…. Instead of a while back, or in a while from now. This creates drama, and drama creates buzz& hype. And you want as much buzz & hype as you can possibly get right before you drop a new album!!

    • @artevann7060
      @artevann7060 4 місяці тому +2

      @scottbushman9050 are you sure? Because it was recently that Tom said "guys we're gonna put country rap on the map". How can Ryan react before Tom made the statement? Like I said, I'm not taking anything away from Tom, I thoroughly enjoy him voicing his opinions on issues and a lot of them need to be addressed, so I'm all for it. Just saying, I can see why Ryan believes his toes were stepped on and decided to say "I'm already here bruh, stick to your own lane and don't be a hypocrite."

    • @guardian7o
      @guardian7o 3 місяці тому

      Lol so true

    • @scottbushman9050
      @scottbushman9050 3 місяці тому +1

      @@artevann7060 Ok yeah, I have no problem agreeing with you on that point. I guess I didn’t know Tom said that about “putting country rap on the map” or whatever/however he said it…. Cuz that totally makes sense, and I’d probably be a little pissed too if I was Upchurch & I heard Tom say that shit!! But it’s still like the PERFECT TIME for him to drop that diss track and get the buzz factor way up, right before his new album drops haha.

  • @andrewdominick1000
    @andrewdominick1000 4 місяці тому +24

    Thanks cliff for being a real reactor and doing the music. All these people looking at this politically are brainwashed

  • @jayprichard2024
    @jayprichard2024 4 місяці тому +9

    When has tom done country rap? He did a song with john rich and that's it. Ryan is unhinged bro.

    • @videotalktalk
      @videotalktalk 4 місяці тому +3

      No, he's digging. He knows that if he goes after someone who gets crazy attention, he can put himself in the spotlight,. Watch what happens with the new album though. You'll get a lot of "I like a few of the tracks". Which honestly, that means its a shyte album. He isnt unhinged, he wants more for doing less...And dissing Tom will get him more for less.

  • @treble8921
    @treble8921 4 місяці тому +11

    holy crap cliff where'd all these subs come from?? you used to be my favorite small-time reactor
    now you're my favorite big-time reactor ;D
    great work my guy

  • @424stormygirl
    @424stormygirl 4 місяці тому +51

    Black Pegusus actually held a show on one of Toms Tours and they brought Tom in and he brought Nova with him. He talks about it in the Gang Gang reactiion.

  • @joelstillson6713
    @joelstillson6713 4 місяці тому +33

    I'm just here for the comments 😅 people getting all pissed over two guys, who are at the top of their game in their separate lanes, that don't give a single sh*t about you or me 🤣 it's like politics really- they're in it to make money period... Just my 2¢ 🤷

    • @berniewatts5028
      @berniewatts5028 4 місяці тому +3

      My sentiments exactly, just about everything is about $$$.

    • @424stormygirl
      @424stormygirl 4 місяці тому +6

      Except Tom ain't playing ryans games kinda makes it a one way battle.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +4

      @@424stormygirl But the reactors still reactor to it and we're still commenting on it. So he still wins 😂

    • @trentcraton4035
      @trentcraton4035 4 місяці тому +8

      @@424stormygirl church is playing the game that Tom can’t handle. Y’all can say whatever you want but Thomas is scared shitless of this beef

    • @kyleham4029
      @kyleham4029 4 місяці тому +2

      @@trentcraton4035 🎯facts over their feelings

  • @mandelaeffectresidue2822
    @mandelaeffectresidue2822 4 місяці тому +16

    Are u going to react to Upchurch lieing about another reactor 🤔🤔

  • @sharkbeatz313
    @sharkbeatz313 4 місяці тому +44

    Great reaction Cliff. Church just playing around thats the scary thing. Im here for it!

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +5

      Lol hes shouting at rhe clouds tom has better shit to do like being number 1 for 2 weeks strait

    • @michaelpleasant8416
      @michaelpleasant8416 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@CrippledMenace a number 1 gimmick shit track with Ben Shapiro, that's not a musical accomplishment lmfao

    • @DevicCypher
      @DevicCypher 4 місяці тому +7

      Nah upchurch is trying his hardest again and it’s trash yet again

    • @michaelthomas229
      @michaelthomas229 4 місяці тому

      @@michaelpleasant8416facts you can’t tell the hog bots nothing they live an breath the fake world 💯

    • @aggiev8561
      @aggiev8561 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@michaelpleasant8416 if it's #1 it means millions of people disagree with your "it's shit" opinion. Seriously, it's so sad that Upchurch and his incel fans are mad and rambling for no actual reason.

  • @hayley4978
    @hayley4978 4 місяці тому +3

    Always appreciate your breakdowns. Thanks for doing this on your day off. ❤

  • @dacronicspotgaming6104
    @dacronicspotgaming6104 4 місяці тому +8

    Up Church has some nice flows and sound also he seems a crazy funny expressive dude. The line , You got Merc with an ink pen, had me 😂😂😂😂 keep up the awesome content Cliff 🤜🏻

  • @aviator2252
    @aviator2252 4 місяці тому +15

    he said he was going to controll our sleep lmao good to see ya have good evening

  • @ikemen1
    @ikemen1 4 місяці тому +22

    The reason Tom and Nova haven't been touring is because of Nova health problem.. Tom said they will try some tours this summer and hope it all goes will... They have tour in many countries before C9...

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +4

      Odd that the only evidence of overseas tours by Tom is a single lyric in a song. He didn't have a single hit until Dear Rappers in 2018. He said then he was flat ass broke and Nova was about to leave him....and you expect us to believe he was doing tours overseas before he even had a single hit with no money? He did a few shows in the US in 2018 and then throughout 2019. That's it as far as I can find on any online source.

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Swearengen1980 I'm blown away by how little yall understand about the music world 😂😂😂😂

    • @TheThriftyVeteran
      @TheThriftyVeteran 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@147salsaquite the rebuttal

    • @jdl619
      @jdl619 4 місяці тому

      @@Swearengen1980 you think online can tell you the truth that's really 😂. People existed before the Internet & the Internet doesn't work the same for all countries. Some countries you do shows in won't even let you film your show. You sound like a stupid person when it comes to this.

  • @sabastiangipson8163
    @sabastiangipson8163 4 місяці тому +8

    I think it's funny how he calls him out for using special effects like okay, so he's leveling up his videos it makes them look better at least he doesnt sit in a chair lol 😆

    • @JoeLancaster
      @JoeLancaster 4 місяці тому

      If that's "levelling up" I'd hate to see what the old ones looked like because even the new ones are trash.

  • @loreleidixon3651
    @loreleidixon3651 4 місяці тому +22

    Tom did some touring in the US with Nova in like 2016 - 2019

    • @424stormygirl
      @424stormygirl 4 місяці тому +2

      And before that he did world wide tours.

    • @mclovin8297
      @mclovin8297 4 місяці тому +2

      @@424stormygirl and prior to that he toured the galaxies..
      am I doing this right?

    • @shiTheadith
      @shiTheadith 4 місяці тому

      ​@@mclovin8297😂😂😂

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +3

      @@424stormygirl No he didn't. His archive shows he has done zero shows overseas. The only tours the concert archive shows is 18/19. Dear Rappers came out in 2018 and before that, he had NO audience. He was broke. He sure as shit didn't tour overseas when he didn't have a single song anyone liked or heard of.

    • @gerneticut
      @gerneticut 4 місяці тому +4

      IF Tom toured overseas it was probably as a wrestler

  • @tbexecutioner5392
    @tbexecutioner5392 4 місяці тому +4

    Upchurch prolly bout to drop a new album. 😂😂

  • @Raineydazed
    @Raineydazed 4 місяці тому +47

    Tom toured Europe with Cool Keith and Onyx back in the day, and he hasn't toured since C19 because of Nova. His last tour was 2019 with Struggle, and then a tour with FIR was canceled. Has Ryan ever toured Europe? Nope.
    There's a tour video of Tom performing Helluvit on his channel. He's talked about going on tour, but I think they may be waiting til Nova finishes her album, which should be soon.
    People seem to forget that Tom produces his own stuff, plus he just produced those 2 albums with Adam AND he also produces Nova's stuff. Ryan has far more time on his hands as he only writes lyrics. Tom does it all, including signing CDs, which Ryan doesn't do. Ryan pokes at Tom for being a homebody, but the dude works 24/7! How is that a dig when you have Ryan playing with lightbulbs 😅 as he criticizes a man who actually works and spends his free time with Nova and family? It's crazy!
    Maybe Ryan should worry more about his own career and worry less about the careers of others. He only did 2 shows in 2022, so who is he to talk when he's only just now going on tour for the first time in 2 years? And i think he's going to cancel his tour for 'health' reasons.
    Always love your reactions, Cliff. I just can't stand Ryan now, and I used to be a fan.

  • @user-ol9td6xg7g
    @user-ol9td6xg7g 4 місяці тому

    Been waiting on u to drop this

  • @samurai215
    @samurai215 4 місяці тому +1

    Don't know about Tom doing shows, but Im doing a road trip across PA from Philly to Canton in June to see Upchurch. Cant fucking wait.

  • @Carissa11-18
    @Carissa11-18 4 місяці тому +25

    So I like Tom & Church but if I had to pick one I would choose Tom because he's actually waking people up. What he's doing is actually working. Church and other right wing conservative rappers can call him a fence rider sure whatever. Yes he's a centerist rapper that leans right on some issues but that is the exact type of rapper that is going to get through to the other side or people with rational thought/common sense that's just been mislead by the media. Left wing rappers are in an echo chamber and so are right wing rappers. There's a reason why leftists that hate both Upchurch & Tom are embedded in Creek right now cheering on Upchurch. They want to destroy Tom then Upchurch will go back into his echo chamber they don't need Upchurch destroyed his art isn't as much of a threat to them. Our country is going off the rails right now and I'll take whatever help we can get. I don't think Tom is grifting he's too well researched in my opinion to not believe in what he's rapping. But even if it was a grift I wouldn't care because it is helping and working. I also go back to Adam Calhoun in my mind I don't question his patriotism and love of his country. He's spent the most time with Tom and loves him like a brother, wouldn't he see through that shxt? It would be fun if he responds I don't know if he will or not. I will say I lost a little respect for Church when he pulled a leftist MSM move on that reactor FTB.

    • @unspoken7704
      @unspoken7704 4 місяці тому +3

      He's hard core right and spins a specific narrative. The irony is waking people but hating on anyone "woke". Sad that his immature songs are about the same extreme views on both sides and not on a focus to meet any where in the middle or compromise. That is how you know Tom is full of it. All he is doing is stirring the pot for controversy to make a buck off a manipulated uninformed audience. Upchurch is genuine and can see through the fake glamor Tom presents and what he attempts to represent, modern suburban Trump crypto bros who eat up the Daily Wire, think Joe Rogan is a genius, and believe Prager U is the penicle of modern intellect.

    • @theskeptik1
      @theskeptik1 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s a lot of words to acknowledge that Tom is a grifter.

    • @Carissa11-18
      @Carissa11-18 4 місяці тому +4

      @@theskeptik1 Lol you just want "Tom being a grifter" to be true. But that's not what I said at all. I said I feel like he is too well researched to not believe in what he's rapping but if it turned out he was a grifter I wouldn't care because what he's doing is working. I just want a better future for my 5 year old son. I appreciate whatever help off the non critical thinking crazy train we're on.

    • @Rap_Hip-Hop_Carnivore
      @Rap_Hip-Hop_Carnivore 4 місяці тому +1

      Wtf are you talking about Tom IS the definition of a ECHO chamber.
      Wayne and Em will colab with one anther, both are on different political sides, but put their political aside and will put out the best hits. There's a lot of left learning artist that'll collaborate with right leaning artist.

    • @Carissa11-18
      @Carissa11-18 4 місяці тому +1

      Hahaha as you can see by the responses to me leftists are embedded in Creek. One of Upchurch's complaints is that Tom is a fence rider if you notice they're saying Tom is far right. Hope you're noticing who's screaming next to you creeksquad. 😂

  • @marcbrown6391
    @marcbrown6391 4 місяці тому +41

    Tom toured before Covid but hasn’t since.

    • @MikeWhoo-gy5jq
      @MikeWhoo-gy5jq 4 місяці тому +2

      Ryan does like one show a year if that

    • @shiTheadith
      @shiTheadith 4 місяці тому +1

      So he's scared?

    • @mikeh-1303
      @mikeh-1303 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@MikeWhoo-gy5jqRyan is about to start a 25 city tour next month.

    • @MikeWhoo-gy5jq
      @MikeWhoo-gy5jq 4 місяці тому +2

      About to is different than has lol let’s see if he actually follows through

    • @cathywilliams7636
      @cathywilliams7636 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@MikeWhoo-gy5jq You can actually buy tickets online for his shows. And, People who are Upchurch fans know he tours regularly. I honestly don't care if Tom tours or not. I remember he use to. But that his his choice.

  • @BitterBettyCarole
    @BitterBettyCarole 4 місяці тому +16

    Tom, has not try to appeal to any thing from the south!! I use to rock with Ryan heavily but feel like he had lost. All his explanations really make no sense. Love you Cliff but couldn’t watch after this part. I will catch you in another video my friend. Much love ❤️

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      Upchurch is exposing that fake artist Tom Hannah Montana McDonald.

  • @amberpowell2609
    @amberpowell2609 4 місяці тому +14

    Tom did a song with an actual country artist also who lives in the south but in no way did Tom acted like he lived it... I cant even. Church done said about 100 reasons and they all reaches.

    • @VIOLENTxLJx
      @VIOLENTxLJx 4 місяці тому +1

      Acting like church isn't bigger then the country artist tom had... lameeeeeoooooo

    • @kylegrady2678
      @kylegrady2678 4 місяці тому +3

      @@VIOLENTxLJxUpchurch is not bigger than John rich from Big and Rich but nice try on that

    • @VIOLENTxLJx
      @VIOLENTxLJx 4 місяці тому

      @kylegrady2678 a quick 30 second Google search will prove you're wrong

    • @kylegrady2678
      @kylegrady2678 4 місяці тому +3

      @@VIOLENTxLJx big and rich have toured all around the world and been around for 20+ years Upchurch hasn’t toured anywhere but the US just because you’ve never heard of them doesn’t mean the rest of the world hasn’t

    • @amberpowell2609
      @amberpowell2609 4 місяці тому

      @@VIOLENTxLJx even if that's true why the hell does that matter? So you have to be the most popular country artist to be country that makes absolutely no sense lol. Nice try though.

  • @lambofgod0086
    @lambofgod0086 4 місяці тому +45

    Tom toured prior to the pandemic. He was supposed to go on tour with Falling in Reverse in November of 2019 but the guitarist of FIR passed away, so the tour got canceled. But yes tom has toured but with novas health they have taken it easy on touring.

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      His tours was bars and not venues like Upchurch. Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments.
      Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards.
      Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch.
      Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO
      Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist.
      Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle. Now that's the facts. 🎉
      IBlackfeet Nation
      Creeksquad
      Holla girl

    • @kylewest100
      @kylewest100 4 місяці тому

      If nova has to live like the bubble boy she can keep her ass at home. Make her ass a stay at home GF. Like really wtf.

    • @tierneylogan5943
      @tierneylogan5943 4 місяці тому +3

      Why does nova have to go on tour with him? She part of the show? lol not to mention she just put out her own album, she can’t be too sick

    • @johncourtney8825
      @johncourtney8825 4 місяці тому

      ​@@tierneylogan5943his girlfriend's husband may not be able to get off work, him being in the industry and all.

    • @markaustin5912
      @markaustin5912 4 місяці тому +2

      @@tierneylogan5943 😂😂😂 Are you her doctor

  • @purplebutterflywithabrokenwing
    @purplebutterflywithabrokenwing 4 місяці тому +10

    Cliff from one reactor to another you are my mentor and I’m glad to be apart of this reaction family even know I’m not as big as you and Knox look up to you guys mad respect ❤

  • @PainReigns125
    @PainReigns125 4 місяці тому +2

    Youre looking good brother. I hope you lay off of whatever brought you to relapse. You deserve better and i hope circumstance leads you to days such as these. Calm happier and sober. Much love and respect. I will hit you up soon

  • @sashajohnson4118
    @sashajohnson4118 4 місяці тому +2

    Perfect timing 💯 😊❤! Switzerland 🇨🇭 in the house 💯

  • @cindyherring1998
    @cindyherring1998 4 місяці тому +36

    Tom's a psycho?? 😂. Church trying to make some Jack for these million dollar law suits he's facing. Hahaha . He wants to tell everyone else's "dirty laundry" ... We need more "Melvins" UpChurch! Haha. Love you Cliff and appreciate your non-bias...i just can't with this egotistical nutcase. I'll catch your next one! Love to ya ❤

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому +4

      Upchurch is the top Independent artist.

    • @rb4342
      @rb4342 4 місяці тому +6

      @@Anidawehi Hahahahahaha!

    • @karigann9047
      @karigann9047 4 місяці тому +1

      Agree 💯

    • @MikeWhoo-gy5jq
      @MikeWhoo-gy5jq 4 місяці тому +3

      Lol underground independent maybe nobody knows who he is

    • @stevewilliams1878
      @stevewilliams1878 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@AnidawehiUpchurch is not100% independent, is he was he wouldn't need someone to makes his beats he would be making them himself also

  • @TracyLynn077
    @TracyLynn077 4 місяці тому +24

    Yes, tom has toured, you can find them in a search on YT. But he never tours without Nova who has had some health issues . He IS planning to tour again hopefully this year

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      Tom doesn't tour. Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments.
      Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards.
      Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch.
      Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO
      Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist.
      Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle.
      IBlackfeet Nation
      Creeksquad
      Holla girl

  • @aviator2252
    @aviator2252 4 місяці тому +17

    you remember way back when watching church burying his records, and digging up the grave and pulling out gold and platinum records...

  • @424stormygirl
    @424stormygirl 4 місяці тому +7

    Its called dear slim, the beat was called Stans revenge.

  • @johnkendrick6198
    @johnkendrick6198 4 місяці тому +7

    This is the most dumbest one sided beef

    • @zionix15432
      @zionix15432 3 місяці тому +1

      its only one sided because tom cant reply back without destroying his own fanbase lol

  • @bobbyogden4574
    @bobbyogden4574 4 місяці тому +21

    Great reaction! Since Tom doesn't have a label, all the money that they would normally make, he makes instead. I think that plays a roll in him not actually NEEDing to tour. For money atleast.

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      Yeah because he's owned by the Rockefellers. Free Masons

    • @rb4342
      @rb4342 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Anidawehi You're an i d i o t. Totally a lie right there... go boo hoo some more with cryin Ryan.

    • @m.singleton229
      @m.singleton229 4 місяці тому

      Plus each cell's hella merch.
      He hasn't toured since covid . Nova has serious respiratory issues. (She almost died a couple years ago.)They are hoping to tour this summer.

  • @tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104
    @tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104 4 місяці тому +21

    I dont think Tom needs to respond because Ryan already did,"Tom MacDonald is alot smarter than most people give him credit for, you know why hes smart ,he reads and stays to himself,if someone is talking about Tom then TOM IS WINNING" Ryan Upchurch

    • @Jeremybinstock
      @Jeremybinstock 3 місяці тому +1

      Love them both.. fuckin face to face and get the bag. Y'all could make a great record... squash it

    • @randyjones725
      @randyjones725 2 місяці тому +2

      Dude if you even think that Tom is as talented or even close to Ryan talent level then your already lost and you need to see a dr for your he trauma cause it’s not close at all. Not only is Ryan killing Tom he’s also killing Adam and the other stooge he’s beating all three of you 3 stooges in a song he isn’t even having to try and if you want to get respect then just quit and stop and admit to defeat guys.

    • @tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104
      @tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104 Місяць тому

      @randyjones725 guess you don't like direct quotes from your boy,he said it not me,go tell him

    • @randyjones725
      @randyjones725 Місяць тому +1

      @@tonybackwardsspellsy-not6104 go tell who and who said what I didn’t see this till just now. Tom is no where near even in the same conversation as upchurch

  • @Jesse-tn3bl
    @Jesse-tn3bl 4 місяці тому +13

    5 years ago 3 years ago Tom Was doing concerts And 2 podcasts this week Not AI it took me 2 seconds to figure this out but apparently up Church is the poop scooperIt's is he ice SpiceThe s*** Fart 🤡

  • @wildhorse6343
    @wildhorse6343 4 місяці тому +16

    I like both, but if UpChurch thinks Tom dont have a nasty pen as well he is Dead Wrong!!

    • @CountryBoy2280
      @CountryBoy2280 4 місяці тому

      Your crazy toms garbage

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +2

      Not compared to Upchurch. It's not even close. Church is the best lyricist since Eminem. Tom's lyrics are 95% straight forward. Don't bring up his Mac diss tracks, sure they were entertaining, but there was nothing clever or nasty about them.

    • @killerheelscrime
      @killerheelscrime 4 місяці тому

      Toms ghost writer or nova better hurry up church is on his second diss track and they still havnt responded? Its really not that deep i dont understand why people are in their feelings 😂 if you can't appreciate the art you're not a real rap fan

    • @regenagarreau9070
      @regenagarreau9070 4 місяці тому +1

      Karma is coming for Tom Macdonald and his name is Ryan Upchurch! 😎

    • @wildhorse6343
      @wildhorse6343 4 місяці тому

      @@Swearengen1980 Are you just a big Creek Squad dude and failed to do any research? Tom has too many pen tight songs to count. Plenty that have ZERO to do with politics. Toms diss on Mac lethal was next level. I like Ryan, but I have never heard anything that quality from Ryan? As I said, I am a fan of both, but I have to agree with Stevie Knights take on all of this.

  • @taofallenstar6419
    @taofallenstar6419 4 місяці тому +9

    Tom has toured several times including with Falling in Reverse and Crown the Empire (metal bands). Reactor Black Pegasus, who is also an event producer or promoter, says he has personally booked shows for Tom in Colorado.

  • @sashajohnson4118
    @sashajohnson4118 4 місяці тому

    Great reaction 💯 creeksquad for life 💯!

  • @GCharlesE
    @GCharlesE 4 місяці тому +16

    Tom literally has lines in his music referring to this nonsense. "I exist outside the Internet, done shows around the world...". Pretty sure you've even reacted to it, Cliff. C'mon.
    I hope Tom doesn't respond. This is just highlighting how desperate and immature, Ryan is at this point. I used to love his music and message, too.

    • @HalfTonChevy
      @HalfTonChevy 4 місяці тому +2

      Was he touring before he stated clout chasing politics 🤔

    • @psychotickreeps
      @psychotickreeps 4 місяці тому

      Yeah toms only good song I hate hip hop that shit fire

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +1

      You can look up Tom's tour history and there's not a single show in that archive that says he's ever performed overseas. You do realize rappers say shit all the time that isn't true, right? 2018-2019, every show is in the States.

    • @killerheelscrime
      @killerheelscrime 4 місяці тому +5

      Oh dear someone doesn't understand battle rap and is in their feelings 🙄. This is battle rap its an art its not deep. If you don't get it you're not a real rap fan 🤷‍♀️

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Swearengen1980😂🤣😂🤣 awe creeksquad forgetting how to use the internet again 😂😂
      There's literal interviews... 😂😂

  • @llo9491
    @llo9491 4 місяці тому +21

    I can say Tom MacDonald used to tour, I remember getting emails telling me to get tickets. But that has been awhile since I've gotten one. Now it's mostly when a video is dropping and asking me to download on iTunes like everyone uses iTunes.
    I like both Upchurch and Tom MacDonald but I feel like Upchurch is having some jealousy with Tom MacDonald. Just seeing Tom blow up then a short time later a Upchurch releases a diss track.

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +8

      His girl has lots of health issues its a Sacrifice he makes to make sure shes good

    • @llo9491
      @llo9491 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CrippledMenace that's right, she was in the hospital like what 2yrs ago due to it if I recall.

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +3

      @@llo9491 yeah she came back like a beast i forget which video it was for i think it was dont look down. I dont get the hate for his choice to put her health first i guess a healthy relationship confuses people

    • @llo9491
      @llo9491 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CrippledMenace a lot of times people just want to hate and find small things to hate on, quite often it's at someone who is doing great. But song that popped into mind when she really went off was No Good Bastards with Tom and Brandon Hart.

    • @ranndomundead9112
      @ranndomundead9112 4 місяці тому +1

      Just weird timing. The issues started months ago. Little things like upchurch pulling traveler and the other tom songs off his channel tipped people off.
      Theres no jealousy here. Church is above Tom and he knows it. Toms also a grifter though. Hes not actually about hiphop and is only in the game to make a bag off stupid people while political tensions are hot. The dude hasnt opened his mouth in years without trying to beg for merch sales in the same breath.

  • @MegsD79
    @MegsD79 4 місяці тому +7

    Tom hasn't done a tour since the pandemic started due to Nova's health. On the My Fans music video is concert footage and when Black Pegasus reacted to it he said that the footage was from an event that BP booked Tom and Nova for. There is footage of Tom and Nova doing shows in several of their music videos.
    I was all about seeing a good rap battle but we found out last night a really great person that was a member of many of these reaction communities passed away and it kind of puts things in perspective. Life is too short and honestly all it's doing rn is causing issues between both fan bases, between reactors and fans with reactors. I just hope it wraps up soon and that no one is overly affected by everything.

    • @terrapinsgurl
      @terrapinsgurl 4 місяці тому +1

      Sorry for your loss and prayers for all that loved them. Prayers for peace found soon for their loss 🙏🏻🙏🏻🕯

    • @MegsD79
      @MegsD79 4 місяці тому

      @@terrapinsgurl thank you. Unfortunately, not just my loss. She was a very active member of several reaction channel discords so it is probably impacting quiet a few of us. ❤

  • @jamesjolley1649
    @jamesjolley1649 4 місяці тому +1

    That “versed by the hand ghost” line is so dope

  • @lovemyplanet24
    @lovemyplanet24 4 місяці тому +12

    Hi Cliff! I don't know who Upchurch is, just know he is dissing Tom. I'm happy you are breaking down the lyrics , because I was having trouble understanding it. I've never been a rap fan, but I love listening to Tom! 😊

    • @rb4342
      @rb4342 4 місяці тому +3

      Tom is awesome. Ryan not so much lately.

    • @lovemyplanet24
      @lovemyplanet24 4 місяці тому +4

      I heard Tom and Upchurch did a song together? 😁 Maybe I should listen to it!

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      ​@@rb4342Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments.
      Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards.
      Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch.
      Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO
      Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist.
      Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle.
      IBlackfeet Nation
      Creeksquad
      Holla girl
      Think about who you support. Tom is a Chomo gimmick rapper.

    • @ericbelander2319
      @ericbelander2319 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lovemyplanet24upchurch deleted it

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lovemyplanet24 it's actually a beautiful song called travelers ..
      Ryan deleted it but there are re-upload online

  • @fransinyard891
    @fransinyard891 4 місяці тому +20

    That was fire! Team Ryan all day every day! Much love from Henderson Ga USA

    • @StevenStone-si3vt
      @StevenStone-si3vt 4 місяці тому +1

      Creek squad. Willa coochee GA

    • @CasualSharts
      @CasualSharts 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@StevenStone-si3vt hehe... Coochee

    • @StevenStone-si3vt
      @StevenStone-si3vt 4 місяці тому

      @@CasualSharts have you ever heard of such a place?

    • @CasualSharts
      @CasualSharts 4 місяці тому

      @StevenStone-si3vt not sure if I've heard that one before but there are plenty small towns with some funky names out there

    • @fransinyard891
      @fransinyard891 4 місяці тому

      @@CasualSharts Henderson is bout 45 mins below Macon. Very very small town!

  • @GarySpryJr
    @GarySpryJr 4 місяці тому +20

    Tom used to tour but hasn't in a while.

  • @tomalinaheartly5115
    @tomalinaheartly5115 4 місяці тому

    Love ur reaction ✌️🤟🥂 . I'd like to hear some of ur music..LFG ur hilarious 💪💪🙏💯💯

  • @tjshelton7145
    @tjshelton7145 4 місяці тому +3

    First reactor that I've seen get the Napoleon reference. Earned a sub. LOL.

  • @roncrouch404
    @roncrouch404 4 місяці тому +25

    Upchurch is just commiting career suicide at this point. Not sure what he has to gain by attacking Tom...but has a whole lot to lose.

    • @coreyeichelberger2516
      @coreyeichelberger2516 4 місяці тому +4

      😂😂😂😂yeah no church is a different beast I like Tom but he’s not beating church 😂

    • @roncrouch404
      @roncrouch404 4 місяці тому +9

      @coreyeichelberger2516 not beating church? Interesting. Guessing y'all have forgotten what Tom did to Mac lethal...either way, Tom doesn't have to compete with church bc they're in different leagues. Tom is in the majors playing with worldwide billboard number ones. Church is still riding the pine in the minors trying to curtail on Tom's success bc church can't do it himself. I pride myself on knowing and listening to a wide array of music across all decades and genres and if it weren't for folks posting these reactions I would have forgotten church even existed. But that's not the point. Tom released Don't look down for a reason and all church is doing is showing why. Nuff said.

    • @coreyeichelberger2516
      @coreyeichelberger2516 4 місяці тому +3

      @@roncrouch404 upchurch isn’t Mac lethal so you can’t compare the two 🤦‍♂️🤣

    • @roncrouch404
      @roncrouch404 4 місяці тому +7

      @coreyeichelberger2516 weren't comparing church to mac lethal. It was a showcase of what Tom can do, even way back then without hardly trying. If you didn't understand that than maybe you aren't qualified to be in this discussion...

    • @jasonrichardson1999
      @jasonrichardson1999 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@roncrouch404Upchurch has something like 700 million more views though

  • @Archangel3083
    @Archangel3083 4 місяці тому +28

    Toms rapping about real life shit that actually matters. Things that need to be said and provoking conversations that need to be had. Like the content of his lyrics or not it’s still rap and he still kills it. I like both these guys I just don’t agree with the angle Church is taking it. Just seems stalker and petty. He’s living rent free in Churches head and it would appear that Tom has t given it thought. No Response pretty much covers all of it.

    • @stephm5871
      @stephm5871 4 місяці тому

      No its a point of view. Tom's songs are relevant yes but they are relevant only for the next 10 yrs. After that most will not be to viewable. Listen to what Upchurch is actually saying. He is daring Tom to do more timeless stuff about who TOM IS. To whit White Boys I like the song BUT Adam is rapping about Adam stuff. Who is Tom rapping about? Not Tom stuff. At the time I thought it was weird but shrugged it off cause it is a fun song.

    • @RobbinBonds
      @RobbinBonds 4 місяці тому +1

      lol just say u dont listen to church.

    • @Archangel3083
      @Archangel3083 4 місяці тому +3

      @@stephm5871 than you haven’t listened to Toms non political songs.

    • @Archangel3083
      @Archangel3083 4 місяці тому

      @@RobbinBonds I have a lot of Churches albums

    • @RobbinBonds
      @RobbinBonds 4 місяці тому

      thats a cap right there or u would know that ryan been saying what tom said lol u a bum thats lieing lol an dont listen to church @@Archangel3083

  • @thiswildridecalledlife9194
    @thiswildridecalledlife9194 4 місяці тому +2

    Great reaction. I subscribed.
    You are a critic. It is your Job to critique the rap. Friends or not. Sounded unbiased to me. If Tom releases a response. You will critique his rap. It's entertaining and I learn a lot.

  • @kodevicious
    @kodevicious 4 місяці тому +120

    I got tickets for 2 tom macdonald shows at the beginning of covid but he had to cancel both the shows....one was out of his control cause he was going to tour with Falling In Reverse and one of the members of FIR ended their life so the tour had to be canceled. And Tom's other tour after that at the begining of covid was canceled by the united states shutting down all events. And if you're a real fan of Tom then you know about Nova's health conditions...which is why he hasn't toured since. But yes he's done lots of tours in the past.

    • @michaelthomas229
      @michaelthomas229 4 місяці тому +14

      😂 ok of course

    • @aggiev8561
      @aggiev8561 4 місяці тому +13

      Exactly, facts. Tom has toured and has a legit reason to not be touring now.
      All of this is an inaccurate word salad

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +24

      @@michaelthomas229 an upchurch fan wouldnt recognize a healthy relationship its fine

    • @claranielsen3382
      @claranielsen3382 4 місяці тому +15

      100% Ryan doesn't research very well, does he.

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +6

      @@claranielsen3382 much like a certain mac lethal 😂

  • @Keitenrenbu
    @Keitenrenbu 4 місяці тому +10

    If I remember right Nova has a health condition. Which explains the CGI and not traveling or touring. Tom is looking out for what is important. Which is why I don't think he will respond. I personally think Upchurch is just trying to ride his wave.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +2

      She's not an invalid FFS, he can do shows without her. If he doesn't want to do shows, he can just say it. Hiding behind Nova is weak.

    • @Keitenrenbu
      @Keitenrenbu 4 місяці тому

      @@Swearengen1980 Not saying she is an Invalid, just saying he chooses to stay with her is a choice. Most choose to tour to make their income. He doesn't need to. once again he chooses family.

  • @cindyherring1998
    @cindyherring1998 4 місяці тому +14

    @Cliff Tom's doing TV-podcasts & news shows. He just had an awesome podcast with Roseanne.. And no .. He's but asking them.... They're hitting him up. Dude ain't got time to sweep up Ryan's dirt.

    • @cindyherring1998
      @cindyherring1998 4 місяці тому +2

      * he's not... (Not *he's but) I hate autocorrect

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому

      Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments.
      Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards.
      Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch.
      Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO
      Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist.
      Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle.
      IBlackfeet Nation
      Creeksquad
      Holla girl

  • @boweber3560
    @boweber3560 4 місяці тому +4

    ill take 10% cliff anyday. been waiting for this reaction lfg

  • @corybabcock4263
    @corybabcock4263 4 місяці тому +24

    Great reaction Cliff, as for Tom going on tour i believe he has many years ago but not anymore only reason he doesn't is due to Nova's health issues. to me it looks like Church is looking for attention or Clout chasing, i don't see any way tom responds to these diss tracks, plus Tom has said in the past he's done with battle rap after the Mac Lethal beef

    • @iDeagles
      @iDeagles 4 місяці тому +7

      “Nova’s health blah blah blah”-🤖
      Mfer, they live in LA. You hogbots are something else. 😂

    • @jamieknox1806
      @jamieknox1806 4 місяці тому +3

      Correct and we all know who won that one. I do think church is more talented than Mac lethal by miles. I just want to hear tom rip this guy apart to.

    • @corybabcock4263
      @corybabcock4263 4 місяці тому

      @@jamieknox1806 Oh Church is by far better than lethal, he has great lyrical ability and i'd like to see a battle to. where tom currently is in music and in life though i just don't see it happening

    • @tierneylogan5943
      @tierneylogan5943 4 місяці тому +3

      Why does nova need to go on tour with Tom? Can’t he handle it by himself?

    • @ranndomundead9112
      @ranndomundead9112 4 місяці тому +4

      @@tierneylogan5943 Tom cant function without Nova. He might claim to be independent but his entire career is centered around her.

  • @BoundlessVlogs07
    @BoundlessVlogs07 4 місяці тому +23

    The way Upchuck has ben ranting on instagram got me kinda worried for his health, he rants and goes off on random youtubers and reactions while taking clips out of content, I swear he abt to do some Benzino shit

    • @noodlewater12
      @noodlewater12 4 місяці тому +5

      Facts

    • @theskeptik1
      @theskeptik1 4 місяці тому +3

      Upchurch is a top tier lyricist, it’s impossible for him to Benzino. This track proves as much.

    • @libertykitten003
      @libertykitten003 4 місяці тому +2

      I haven't read ALL comments on IG or even on YT for that matter, so I'm not sure if anyone has pointed out this fact - if you look closely, his pupils are EXTREMELY dilated on ALL those IG videos. There are certain things that cause this. I've got my own theory, but I'll let y'all do your own research. Although, to me, it pretty much confirms what many people have already strongly suggested.

    • @smalltowntxscratcher6573
      @smalltowntxscratcher6573 4 місяці тому +2

      Tom's fan boys are legit losing it. You try to say Upchurch is on drugs so what if he is. Last time I checked he is grown man. You can't stand that Tom is getting smoked by Upchurch

    • @BoundlessVlogs07
      @BoundlessVlogs07 4 місяці тому

      @@smalltowntxscratcher6573 Losing??? The numbers aint lying. Upchurch is the one falling off rn its a last moment clout chase

  • @Zer0t0lerance93
    @Zer0t0lerance93 4 місяці тому +1

    Still fairly new to the rap/hip hop and beef culture, mainly here for you Cliff. Thx for the video.

    • @Betaddini
      @Betaddini 4 місяці тому +1

      Same here.... I am still trying to understand the why for this diss... It has to be a why for a diss? It is weird that the time the he dropped was when Tom was at #1? Still very good though...

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Betaddini Tom is running scared. Tom was censoring to Upchurch comments.
      Ryan Upchurch exposed Tom McDonald. Also Tom lied on a podcast and said nobody is on doing it on his level. That's a lie. Like I will say many times...I don't pay any attention to the Tom deepthroaters. They are betas who say the same stuff over and over like their phony pony Hannah Montana Tom does in his music. They are hogtards.
      Tom only wish he could be as talented as Upchurch.
      Tom is too busy looking up licking the basketballs of Upchurch's SEO
      Upchurch has multiple records that went gold and platinum and he tours and competes...Tom has no gold records or platinum records. Tom doesn't compete or sell out shows on tour. Tom has to use Upchurch's SEO. Upchurch doesn't beg people to buy merchandise and also Hannah Montana Tom buys views. 😂😂😂Lol. He also has a husband in law. Haha. Might as well throw that in there. He's a industry plant posing as a independent artist.
      Upchurch is speaking facts and that's the bottom line. Tom has to look up to Upchurch. But Tom hides his eyes. 😂😂😂😂😂Upchurch is not someone to mess with when it comes to rap battle.
      IBlackfeet Nation
      Creeksquad
      Holla girl

    • @psychotickreeps
      @psychotickreeps 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Betaddinibro you can get dissed for the shoes you wear or the hairstyle you got or how fat you are people forget that cause of all that anti bullying stuff

    • @Betaddini
      @Betaddini 4 місяці тому

      @@psychotickreeps lol thks for the lesson

    • @psychotickreeps
      @psychotickreeps 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Betaddini np my child

  • @joshuastickley2796
    @joshuastickley2796 4 місяці тому

    Another banger from Church and another great reaction Cliff!

  • @JC-qn5gk
    @JC-qn5gk 4 місяці тому +32

    Upchurch saying "Please respond Tom, PLEASE, because I have a new album coming out, with CDs now, just like you, and my views are WAY down over the last few years... So Please, PLEASE TOM HELP ME SELL MY STUFF!"

    • @jasonrichardson1999
      @jasonrichardson1999 4 місяці тому +1

      Yet church also has like 700 million more views so

    • @JC-qn5gk
      @JC-qn5gk 4 місяці тому +4

      @@jasonrichardson1999 not lately. He's been on a downward swing for years. Last big hit was Holler Boys 5 years ago. Take Church's last 10 Official music videos and add up the total views = a little over 7 million or so. Tom's last 10 Official music videos total views = 86 million.
      Church is great, but he is definitely on a downward trajectory. While Toms is all up. Thus, the fake beef. Maybe if Ryan quit with murder mysteries and secret knowledge and nonstop drama videos and focused on music....

  • @adellegregory4433
    @adellegregory4433 4 місяці тому +2

    Vibe reactions is hilarious on this one, he explains alot. Battle rap!!!😅

  • @jdoveyk9422
    @jdoveyk9422 4 місяці тому +1

    We here for you guys! Hitting all the reactors getting those views up! 🎉

  • @88E30
    @88E30 4 місяці тому +15

    Not taking sides here. Listen to both. But if church is king of the south then why would it matter if tom came in his “lane”? Not to mention the song tom was on with church that he deleted off his site. Would have shown a little more confidence if he would’ve left it up. Just my opinion.

    • @tierneylogan5943
      @tierneylogan5943 4 місяці тому +2

      That was a remix of a church song and the original is 10x better.

    • @YOSHI450R
      @YOSHI450R 4 місяці тому +7

      Church welcomes people into his lane, unless they're fake... see Churches older disses.

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому

      @@YOSHI450R Yep. Tom has been saying some redneck shit since he teamed up with ACal and it's as fake as can be. Tom is a liberal living in LA, talking about rednecks and guns is just pandering to a demographic. It's ok, that's capitalisms, but it's still fake as shit. I still like it though.

    • @gerneticut
      @gerneticut 4 місяці тому +1

      You cant stay king of the ring without battling for the title.

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому

      ​@@tierneylogan5943 dude church deleted it because back when church was a little more rational he even admitted multiple times that Tom killed him and struggle on that song 😂😂😂😂
      Church can't have that up 😂😂😂

  • @noctislucis5862
    @noctislucis5862 4 місяці тому +17

    Honestly, what happened to diss tracks just being direct and saying what you mean? I’d take that style any day over this.

    • @Anidawehi
      @Anidawehi 4 місяці тому +4

      Tom has no style. He's a gimmick and a grifter who flows the same flow every song.

    • @CrippledMenace
      @CrippledMenace 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Anidawehi lmao ok yeah hes never switched up his flow lmao

    • @ranndomundead9112
      @ranndomundead9112 4 місяці тому

      This is an odd way to say youre too stupid to understand the bars

    • @noctislucis5862
      @noctislucis5862 4 місяці тому

      I’m talking about this track and modern disses in general. They aren’t direct anymore. This style uses double and triple entendres, saying one thing that sounds like other things. It gets boring. I just prefer them to say what they mean. No Vaseline is a perfect example of being direct. Also, I really don’t care about Tom.

  • @shannenmanso1
    @shannenmanso1 4 місяці тому +51

    Tom raps about things he is interested in and he’s told everybody he’s interested in politics. Plus everybody knows Tom has many different genres and does whatever he wants. He doesn’t give a shit what Upchurch is saying.

    • @JimmyJames562
      @JimmyJames562 4 місяці тому +10

      Tom only makes music about what his niche audience cares about and that's facts. The majority of Tom's fan base doesn't even like hip hop or rap, so Tom responding really doesn't make any sense.

    • @johncourtney8825
      @johncourtney8825 4 місяці тому

      His girlfriend is married to a industry guy. Tom doesn't get citizenship because he would have to pay taxes. Pyramid scheme. Upchurch knows him personally. It's gonna get worse.

    • @johncourtney8825
      @johncourtney8825 4 місяці тому +2

      Oh, he cares.

    • @unspoken7704
      @unspoken7704 4 місяці тому +5

      Tom sounds like he sweats about alot of made up issues and cares enough about it to whine on his songs about it.

    • @meganweaver8429
      @meganweaver8429 4 місяці тому +7

      Tom is only interested in making money. Period. His fans are blind sheep.

  • @user-oe5ri6bg6n
    @user-oe5ri6bg6n 4 місяці тому +2

    I love both of them and I love you bro it's all good nothing but love and respect for life ❤

  • @tadwalters467
    @tadwalters467 4 місяці тому +20

    They toured b4 the virus bs came about….there are videos of him on stage with the crowd singing along with him…NOVA even mentioned in her song with him while showing pictures of them on the actual tour bus in her videos…then once again, Toms video boob bap start with her saying……we are on tour and you want to shoot a music video right now??? Also, anyone who has a clue…knows that NOVA has bad anxiety and other health issues and she doesn’t like to be around a lot of people. Tom has addressed this topic many times and Adam even talked about how bad Novas anxiety and health problems were…Ryan knows this but is flipping it to fit his narrative. Exactly the same way he did with that reactors video that he purposely edited to try to make that reactor look like a punk…unfortunately for Ryan, the reactor didn’t back down & came back with receipts….yet, he calls Tom a fake? I’m a big fan of both artists and Ryan is sick with his pen and rapping…but calling someone fake while your editing a small reactors video trying to ruin him….is some strait up BS...editing a video to fit a narrative you want while trying to destroy a small reactors channel…is far worse then anything I have heard from Ryan about Tom…I’m my opinion.

    • @chasecarron6129
      @chasecarron6129 4 місяці тому +1

      The reactor had no idea the bs he was talking about and upchurch talked about all the bs dude said in the video so what’s your point?

    • @Swearengen1980
      @Swearengen1980 4 місяці тому +1

      Tom can go on tour without Nova. Are you saying she's an invalid who can't manage for a little while without Tom to wipe her ass? Tom chooses not to tour and that's ok, there's no need to use Nova as a scapegoat.

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Swearengen1980😂😂😂

    • @147salsa
      @147salsa 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Swearengen1980 I'm LOVING that toxic a$$ can't keep a relationship with anyone ryan upchurch fans are mocking a loving relationship 😂😂😂 icing on the cake of creeksquad showing their ignorance 😂😂

  • @ikemen1
    @ikemen1 4 місяці тому +3

    Tom does all music genres, Tom Helps all kinds of people. Tom has people in all age groups listening to him. From 5-80 and even people who never listen to Rap... Church is a one trick phony... I was just starting to listening to Church, well, now he's dead to me.... Hope he get clean whatever he's on......Tom is Crazy if he responded... Tom! Remember your songs "Don't Look Down" and "No Response"

    • @tyannjarvis8762
      @tyannjarvis8762 4 місяці тому +1

      One trick pony .. 🤣.your tripping. I respect if you don't like Upchurch but to say he's a one trick pony is crazy!

  • @bleeddr.pepper664
    @bleeddr.pepper664 4 місяці тому +9

    Tom hasn't done shows since covid and also Nova has health problems. Love your breakdown Cliff sorry it's your day off but glad you took the time for this video.

    • @iDeagles
      @iDeagles 4 місяці тому +5

      “Nova’s health blah blah blah”-🤖
      They live in LA. 😂

    • @tierneylogan5943
      @tierneylogan5943 4 місяці тому +5

      Nova has put out her own album since Covid was over. How sick is she really? And why’s he need her to hold his hand on a tour? Is he afraid she might go back to her husband if he’s gone? 😂

    • @slyfox1971
      @slyfox1971 4 місяці тому +1

      I thought she just had asthma. Upchurch does too.

    • @iDeagles
      @iDeagles 4 місяці тому +2

      @@slyfox1971 No. She's supposedly allergic to everything and if she catches so much as a dust particle, she's dead. Wait a second. I feel like I've heard this plot somewhere before. It had something to do with a boy and a bubble. 🤔

    • @bleeddr.pepper664
      @bleeddr.pepper664 4 місяці тому

      @@tierneylogan5943 Grow up. I was answering a question this is so unnecessary.

  • @paulasturgis7800
    @paulasturgis7800 3 місяці тому +2

    I appreciate the fact you’re staying neutral. Personally I think it’s terrible Upchurch is doing what he’s doing. Why? Why doesn’t he just concentrate on his music instead of Tom. Be supportive of others that are independent. Who cares if Tom is focusing on what’s going on in our country. I loved Upchurch but I had to drop him because of all his baggage. For a while dude was just crazy. He’s acting like a teen girl who is always wanting attention.
    So again thanks for being neutral.

  • @jfsmomma1397
    @jfsmomma1397 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the bar for bar break down. I'm still salty noone caught the quadruple entendre on the why boys diss

  • @lisamora8141
    @lisamora8141 4 місяці тому +14

    Good on you for reacting. This was fire. Credit where it due. This is hip hop. Battle is part of hip hop, Tom needs to respond, it a battle that is all, not all the drama some making it, those that don't understand hip hop. I don't think Tom can match Upchurch lyrical skills, but I hope he responds, so it is about skills not all the drama others creating.

    • @aggiev8561
      @aggiev8561 4 місяці тому +2

      I so hope Tom doesn't ever acknowledge this angry word salad. Most of it is inaccurate, irrelevant or cringy.
      Upchurch is literally trying to catch some extra fame from this and its just so sad.

    • @jfwalken
      @jfwalken 4 місяці тому +4

      Its only a battle if Tom responds until then it's a challenge. And since Church went live hating that Ben Shapiro is jewish, on top of Tom being good with Calhoun, id say responding is unnecessary, it allows church to either get his mind right or go full anti semite.

    • @JimmyJames562
      @JimmyJames562 4 місяці тому +3

      Tom is not real hip hop, so I doubt he'll respond even though I want him to, because it's hip hop. I also don't think he'll respond because his main demographic doesn't even like hip hop or rap... They comment that all the time 😂 "I don't even like rap, but I love your music" So there's no incentive for Tom to respond as his fans don't care because they ain't true hip hop fans.

    • @lisamora8141
      @lisamora8141 4 місяці тому +1

      @@JimmyJames562 good point, his fans don't seem to understand hip hop and that rap battle is part of the culture, they getting all sensitive. Tom claims to be a rapper and on a podcast claimed there was no one as good as him lol, in hip hop that is an invite for a challenge. I also find it amusing when people use the argument of clout chasing. That is the give away that they don't know hip hop, they wouldn't use that argument if they did when it comes to Church given some of his songs has in excess of 140 plus million views lol. I think Tom can defend himself. Be good to see the lyrical skills tested. All the woke I see in comments, those people don't understand rap battle so no point responding as they don't get it, hence their hyper sensitivity.

    • @jfwalken
      @jfwalken 4 місяці тому +2

      @@aggiev8561 hey let's sneak reply people since the NPCs can't be bothered to reply to the people they talk about. Isn't it funny the high viewed videos are songs like Rolling Stoned and featuring Luke Combs, so hood friendly they end up right after Willie Nelson at the cookout.
      Tom said something on a pod. Now he's in a battle, these street cats are saying, so everyone not named Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac, Biggie, Andre, Jada, Korrupt, Nas that attacked Em was 100% in a battle, cuz that how the "streets", ie lazy river floating, people be getting down. Anybody going after Wayne since C2, Nicki, Drake, Jay-Z , Wiz Khalifa, Snoop, and every rapper ever pretty much.
      Actually I don't know what I'm talking about I don't know rap, my first cd wasnt Kid n Play what even is house party.

  • @patchesblue155
    @patchesblue155 4 місяці тому +10

    Nova has health issues that had prevented Tom from touring but he did tour before I believe. I respect Church's pen game, but I can't think he's doing anything to get clout. Sad, very sad.

  • @nicolettegeiger3678
    @nicolettegeiger3678 4 місяці тому

    It’s 3:30 am, I can’t sleep and this is the first video that pops up, definitely not getting back to sleep now, I’m like you, I’m neutral as I like both artists

  • @xxxanonymousxxx1726
    @xxxanonymousxxx1726 4 місяці тому +2

    Tom ain’t out here trying to battle rap and play inside the lines of the traditional hip-hop game.. he’s simply using his musical talent to get paid while doing what he loves and speaking his mind on important shit going on in the world today. Don’t get me wrong, I love battle rap and hip-hop in general but all that would just be childish and unnecessary for him to get involved in. You can’t wake people up and change the world rapping about bitches, money, and clout but you can make an impact opening peoples eyes to what’s going on in the world. Tom is not the greatest lyricist out there, but he’s on some whole other shit and the world needs his voice right now.

  • @kto_66
    @kto_66 4 місяці тому +17

    Be careful Cliff what you say he went after
    "FTB Reacts" for 10 minutes and lied about his reaction.

    • @iowahooch
      @iowahooch 4 місяці тому +4

      Going after Knox Hill too

    • @crystallynn5258
      @crystallynn5258 4 місяці тому

      That's why these reaction channels tow the line with Ryan. Like this was that great lol. But thats typical church, obsess over something he took out of context & try to destroy someone's career. Petty queen.

    • @jolandafrijlink6103
      @jolandafrijlink6103 4 місяці тому

      ​@@iowahoochwhat?...why?

    • @libertykitten003
      @libertykitten003 4 місяці тому +6

      @@jolandafrijlink6103 Probably because in Knox's reaction to diss #1, he made his feelings very clear about his disapproval of cuckchurch using the N word. And I completely agree! There was no need for it! Hell, even Stevie Knight said the same thing in his reaction to it!

    • @jolandafrijlink6103
      @jolandafrijlink6103 4 місяці тому +2

      @@libertykitten003 yes i saw that. Crypt had the same reaction. The whole n-word thing is a trap i say 😧😶.

  • @GCharlesE
    @GCharlesE 4 місяці тому +11

    Upchurch must not know literally any of Tom's non political music. Pretty obvious, for someone "so smart," didn't do any actual research. I really like Ryan's older catalog, but this shit makes no sense

    • @theeternalsw0rd
      @theeternalsw0rd 4 місяці тому +3

      More like chooses to ignore it when convenient. He had a bar about Ghost.

    • @sabastiangipson8163
      @sabastiangipson8163 4 місяці тому

      Most people don't because they don't listen to any of his c Ds because because that's where most of his music that isn't political is on they Only see what's on UA-cam and there is some non political on UA-cam

  • @lordnox69
    @lordnox69 4 місяці тому +2

    he does not need to tour cause he gets to keep his money from album/song and merch sales

  • @effenf
    @effenf 4 місяці тому +11

    Ryan spazzed on this on too man give credit when credit is due👊🏼

  • @ghostfacedkilla2849
    @ghostfacedkilla2849 4 місяці тому +19

    Dude is just wasting his time. Tom won't see it, even if he does he sure as shit not replying.

    • @redbonegaston2010
      @redbonegaston2010 4 місяці тому +3

      If he won’t see it, why did ACAL’s snake a$$ drive through a snowstorm to try to prevent these tracks from surfacing. Aren’t they besties?

    • @HeavensRedemption
      @HeavensRedemption 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@redbonegaston2010 ......you've got a very sad life.

    • @redbonegaston2010
      @redbonegaston2010 3 місяці тому

      @@HeavensRedemption Dude, this was so 13 days ago..😂😂😂

  • @jodimayer225
    @jodimayer225 4 місяці тому +24

    Tom did shows before the CVid, then kept a low profile due to Nova's health concerns.

  • @MrPanther1986
    @MrPanther1986 4 місяці тому +1

    Tom's song no response is exactly what I play against this!

  • @lauraunderwood5971
    @lauraunderwood5971 4 місяці тому +1

    Feeling really sad. The hate and unstable mind of one of my favorite rappers coming against Tom and now Adam . I hope Tom and Adam can find a new better way to deal with it. Breaks my heart feels like jealousy and misunderstanding used by the devil himself. It is breaking my heart cause it feels like real things real broken relationships and I’ve had those . So sad I’m actually crying. Hang Over Gang for life and Adam Calhoun we got you. What comes to my mind is how Ren dealt with the diss that came at him and Knox . Ren started with a traditional rap response then he turned it around like nothing I have ever seen before. This whole thing about battle rap , look I get it . Battle rap has its history and time when instead of weapons words were used but rap has evolved and has new lanes and mixing genres. Picking fights for the sake of attacking an artist and their music is not in good sport in my opinion. I think it’s time to follow Rens lead . I think it’s time for a new and better way. 

  • @ginaj617
    @ginaj617 4 місяці тому +4

    I’m going to listen to some smooth R&B after this 😂😂

  • @MichaelKlineJr
    @MichaelKlineJr 4 місяці тому +7

    Tom is more of a social media artist, and I can respect that. There are many youtube talents that will never see a tour and they are comfortable with that. Apparently, Tom tried twice to tour, obstacles out of his control shorted both. I actually expected something this summer. Tom doesn't have a label running his show, so they have to set it all themselves, probably through CTI. I'm sure there's enough fans to make it profitable. Nova has health issues that make publicity a health risk, she's been in the hospital for Lung issues.

    • @marcatkinson4149
      @marcatkinson4149 4 місяці тому +1

      He did tour before all of that. Mostly it was before he blew up.

    • @SickGirlRocks
      @SickGirlRocks 4 місяці тому

      They have multi millions they don’t have to push their ish that hard. It’s annoying as F BUY MY ISH BUY MY ISH I don’t have enough money come on 🙄

    • @MichaelKlineJr
      @MichaelKlineJr 4 місяці тому

      @@SickGirlRocks I get that. I could feel the ishiness during the FACTS debut, but I was also like... let's do this shit. XD

    • @424stormygirl
      @424stormygirl 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SickGirlRocks Its called promotion of your products , your not forced to buy anything. But he is a business man and its what he does.

    • @ranndomundead9112
      @ranndomundead9112 4 місяці тому

      @@424stormygirl Tom hasnt opened his mouth once in the past 5 years without begging for merch sales.
      Thats not promotion, thats grifting. It shows hes fake and has no concern about the music or hiphop or the message, he just wants the money.
      The dude is a canadian willingly living in California pretending to be a die hard conservative while him and his girlfriend rock luciferian tattoos and rap about satan.
      I cant believe this many people are too stupid to see through his bullshit.

  • @MARZILLI
    @MARZILLI 4 місяці тому +1

    Cliff hear’s that bar that ended with “…This guy” and “every Album has its own funeral” he says “I can’t do this right now…” Like there’s just to much to break down here… 😂❤

  • @doratiscareno5856
    @doratiscareno5856 4 місяці тому +2

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  • @Protop90
    @Protop90 4 місяці тому +8

    Tom MacDonald - No response "I Google the net worth of rappers hating and I don't respond"
    So he might not put any time on Upchurch diss. 🤔🤨

  • @ginaarceciraymond
    @ginaarceciraymond 4 місяці тому +5

    Fire bar! OJ Simpson, who was often called “Juice” because of his energetic runs and because his initials could stand for orange juice. And, there's also a movie from the early 90s called Juice, starring 2pac. Also, one of Ojs lawyers that got him off was Robert Shapiro (we all know ben was on the last Tom track) so that bar has quite a few layers. 🔥
    Loved the reaction, Cliff. The way you break down the bars, schemes, flow patterns & switches, never ceases to amaze me! Such talent!

    • @joewalsh886
      @joewalsh886 4 місяці тому +2

      The way he annunciates "juice" also sounds like jews referring back to Ben shapiro

  • @quasimodoshunchback
    @quasimodoshunchback 4 місяці тому

    i cant explain how much i love your personality

  • @RestlessLightning
    @RestlessLightning 4 місяці тому +1

    Yep, Came Out Of Nowhere Tonight 💥🔥

  • @beckyleavitt7808
    @beckyleavitt7808 4 місяці тому +10

    Church says he is bigger than Tom. Why's he diss'n down then? Tom trolls for a reason. You know that Cliff.

    • @CharlesMarkcum-mb7kl
      @CharlesMarkcum-mb7kl 4 місяці тому

      Agree fully

    • @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing
      @TheBibleIsaWeirdThing 4 місяці тому +1

      All im saying is, I knew of Tom MacDonald way beofre then this guy. So Tom is probably bigger. But with that being said Tom is absolutely garbage. Lmao. From what i heard of this guy (this song only) he's definitely better than tom. 😂😂😂😂

    • @Rambo-Donkey
      @Rambo-Donkey 4 місяці тому

      Underground vs new age clout chase.. it's not hard..

  • @noctislucis5862
    @noctislucis5862 4 місяці тому +15

    “I’m a DNA consumer.” That line needs a hard pause.

    • @MikeWhoo-gy5jq
      @MikeWhoo-gy5jq 4 місяці тому +3

      Yeah upchurch is letting everyone know he guzzles but makes sense since his firs vid calling Tom out from the shower all weird

    • @BTbussin
      @BTbussin 4 місяці тому

      Bro let's be honest, they both want to guzzle each other and both sides are just mad that the other won't come out and admit it first. It's sexual tension.... homosexual tension 💀

    • @videotalktalk
      @videotalktalk 4 місяці тому

      lmfao. a very hard pause. No mention of "man milk", seems like a missed opportunity.

  • @DancingDD
    @DancingDD 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the reasons that Ryan's upset is... He supposedly was gonna be on the track "White Boyz"w/ Tom&ACal! But for unknown reasons Madchild, did the song! IDK BUT after all the video's of Ryan's ESPECIALLY The one dates 2/13/24 I just watched ...I believe it's also something to do with ACal! Idk but being a #HOG & Creeker - THIS SHIT is aggravating! I think Tom continues to look forward & continues to grow! His timing is SPOT ON!!! I felt bad for Ryan, when he got burned from K. Noel the other dumb chick & his own Mom!! #HOG #TomMacDonald #ACal #Creeker Brodnax too Love them All!

  • @Shoot6675
    @Shoot6675 3 місяці тому +1

    That composition be empty a fucking lifetime. Lifetime is a brand of composition book

  • @stayuf
    @stayuf 4 місяці тому +4

    1st one here! Touring though I think goes back to giving back to the fans as well.