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  • @4thelolz1
    @4thelolz1 Рік тому +61

    And drain it off all over the floor 😂

    • @stevehirst536
      @stevehirst536 Рік тому +1

      Was going to say exactly the same 😂

    • @janice6173
      @janice6173 Рік тому +1

      Most gasman don't care . Esp the installer of mine, British Gas trained engineer. Kept telling me. Made right mess. Boiler never been right nor the thermostat n he took tiles off roof not sure if water tight but there's lot of draught n leaves coming down.

  • @kevk491
    @kevk491 Рік тому +26

    Monoblock tap spanner, one of the extension fit in there . Use to always carry one just for this situation, thank me later

  • @SloMoShort
    @SloMoShort Рік тому +1

    Got an ideal logic. Works a treat.

  • @janice6173
    @janice6173 Рік тому

    Nice clear n good rate too. Most info on these is like flipping Road runner or is USA
    I won't be attempting it but good to know.

  • @Duckduckwing
    @Duckduckwing Місяць тому

    does this drain the boiler only or does it drain the whole heating system? I have no drainage valve on any rad so if this does the whole system itll make my life much easier

  • @MrPaulogenes
    @MrPaulogenes Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. Thank you

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999  10 місяців тому +1

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  • @doncodman913
    @doncodman913 Рік тому +1

    Hi ya.. looks like that blackdrain spout has a slot on the end for an oversize flatblade screwdriver...?

  • @mike004692
    @mike004692 Рік тому

    ideal would be great to design a tool for it , it could get lost along with the handles for those mag filters

  • @nickbea3443
    @nickbea3443 Рік тому

    Crap access then leaks everywhere. How about input at design stage from heating engineers?

  • @UAVWRIGHT
    @UAVWRIGHT 9 місяців тому

    Is there anything else you need to do once drained?

  • @joboeyful
    @joboeyful 7 місяців тому +1

    Swear that went everywhere but….😂

  • @TheLeekibble
    @TheLeekibble 11 місяців тому

    Is this to drain down the central heating so I can reroute some pipes and add a rad? Thanks

  • @Brian77766
    @Brian77766 9 місяців тому

    What size is the nut on the plastic drain off?

  • @mellepasveer6173
    @mellepasveer6173 Рік тому

    And why then you have to refill the boiler again

  • @kurashare4078
    @kurashare4078 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999  7 місяців тому

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  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Рік тому

    why not just add a bit of reducing pipe to a bit of plex to attach the drain pipe all in one, that way you can keep it all in the kit bag

  • @giffy8924
    @giffy8924 Рік тому

    As phill Mitchell got a new job?

  • @insidegamesluan8934
    @insidegamesluan8934 Рік тому

    Anybody saw that theres a slot for a flat head screwdriver

  • @sambowden1062
    @sambowden1062 Рік тому

    I've got a tip for you... But some nail clippers

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999  Рік тому +2

      I have a tip, if you are going to be rude at least spell it correctly 😂

  • @ricklee827
    @ricklee827 Рік тому

    Love the copper not a big fan of the pro press

  • @sleektoneofficial
    @sleektoneofficial Рік тому

    Never seen no pro press fittings like that

  • @GaryHynes-im5di
    @GaryHynes-im5di 8 місяців тому

    Just use the prv...

  • @dezbeatty4250
    @dezbeatty4250 Рік тому

    Or buy a deep socket for you're toolkit

  • @Bertie211
    @Bertie211 11 місяців тому +1

    Just use a flat head

  • @kevinohara1908
    @kevinohara1908 8 місяців тому +1

    Bad design

  • @derin111
    @derin111 Рік тому +9

    I’ve been trying to get my Ho’s for a week but they ain’t answer their phones……🤨

  • @bobby5634
    @bobby5634 Рік тому +38

    You'd really wanna turn that after 5-10 years wouldn't you

    • @muzdogbarbados5492
      @muzdogbarbados5492 Рік тому

      you got that right mate

    • @ChristianBHough
      @ChristianBHough Рік тому +4

      New to heating so don't bite... But if the boiler gets serviced every year, you drop the pressure to check the expansion vessel, surely it shouldn't become a problem. Assuming the boiler develops a fault twice every year that requires draining from there over a lifespan of let's say 10 years, you only need to open that 30 times. Surely it should last at least that long? I don't mind being educated and corrected.

    • @kendevanny4078
      @kendevanny4078 Рік тому +8

      @@ChristianBHough Most boilers you will go to my mate, will not have any servicing and these crappy parts always bite you on the arse.

    • @user.--.
      @user.--. Рік тому

      ​@@kendevanny4078 mine does, every year

    • @gow03333
      @gow03333 Рік тому

      👍beat me to it

  • @muzdogbarbados5492
    @muzdogbarbados5492 Рік тому +8

    still leaking

  • @sambutler927
    @sambutler927 Рік тому +4

    Yeah they are shite, I fit loads of Ideal Logics but those drain offs piss out.

    • @andyparky2716
      @andyparky2716 Рік тому

      I like ideal for the money put one in my own house actually

  • @randomcamerajunk6977
    @randomcamerajunk6977 Рік тому +10

    Imagine designing an appliance that you fill with water and then fit it with a barely functional drain point. Designed by muppets and installed by muppets

  • @lifeofriley6187
    @lifeofriley6187 Рік тому +5

    Mono block socket fits

  • @jonneym
    @jonneym Рік тому +5

    The people on here saying 10 years out of a boiler is good. The one in my house was installed 1985 👍

    • @davefarmery8180
      @davefarmery8180 Рік тому

      And is not as efficient as a new one

    • @earlestes8649
      @earlestes8649 Рік тому +1

      @@davefarmery8180 maybe but if it’s maintained properly idk,

    • @janice6173
      @janice6173 Рік тому +1

      They were made to last. The ones after were pile of crud. In my experience.

    • @Danfrank24
      @Danfrank24 9 місяців тому

      @@davefarmery8180you keep on lapping up lies. They may be less efficient as in the don’t burn as much of the gas they are given but a 14kw heat only boiler uses a lot less gas that a new combi. Especially when you’ve got idiots installing 38kw in 2 bed semis so they get “good” hot water.

  • @connerhuetson3581
    @connerhuetson3581 Рік тому +19

    Just drain it down through the filling loop😜

    • @kendevanny4078
      @kendevanny4078 Рік тому

      Most people put the FL back to front, with the check valve on the return and fcuks this meth up.

    • @petermckiernan5822
      @petermckiernan5822 Рік тому +2

      Not with a double check valve on the loop you won't.

    • @HughieMunro
      @HughieMunro Рік тому +1

      @@petermckiernan5822 double check goes on the cold water side 🤦‍♂️
      You have no idea how many people still put them the wrong way round…. I’m guessing your one of them 😜😜😜
      So yes, you can drain through filling loop if fitted CORRECTLY

    • @petermckiernan5822
      @petermckiernan5822 Рік тому

      @@HughieMunro not so mate, I fit two, one on the cold main and one on the heating return, stops twats disconnecting the loop and accidentally draining 60° water into their face.

    • @sbe-bikes3912
      @sbe-bikes3912 10 місяців тому

      Every time even on the integral loops can drain down 👍🏼

  • @richardshort4587
    @richardshort4587 Рік тому +2

    Designed to fail = more money to be made on servicing or replacement. Once you get mineral deposits on that drain all bets are off. More so because it’s plastic.

  • @k20aa
    @k20aa Рік тому +2

    There was nothing easy about that 😂😂 Bad design plastic junk

  • @sbe-bikes3912
    @sbe-bikes3912 10 місяців тому +2

    Or use disconnect integrated fill loop off of ch return and drain through that more control and drains quicker 👍🏼

  • @oharv1
    @oharv1 7 місяців тому

    Don’t work on ideal usually chuck em on the grass

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob Рік тому +2

    Or get a box spanner, which will have a cross hole, in case you need more leverage to undo the fitting.

  • @arthurdaley895
    @arthurdaley895 Рік тому

    It's pissing out the top and down the sides of the fitting spilling everywhere. What a piece of crap factory fitting.

  • @martincole8462
    @martincole8462 3 місяці тому

    Why is there compression on the pressure relief pipe. And this is a loaded question

  • @Stuart_Johnson_Solutions
    @Stuart_Johnson_Solutions Рік тому

    And it's such a poor design the water runs down the outside of the hose and all over the floor...

  • @goodhouse91021
    @goodhouse91021 8 місяців тому

    Oh no not mapress right by the boiler connections 😅😅😅

  • @iainrichardson4495
    @iainrichardson4495 8 місяців тому

    Yea and pissing out down the outside of his pipe.....

  • @jamo78s3
    @jamo78s3 Рік тому

    An get charged a squillian pound for doing it

  • @2smokerjoker178
    @2smokerjoker178 8 місяців тому

    Nice and easy as it piss's all over his arm 😂

  • @alexriley6663
    @alexriley6663 7 місяців тому

    Or ye get ye mono spanner 😂

  • @alanwoods4023
    @alanwoods4023 Рік тому +1

    It’s pissing out round the hose Allen. Not a great drain off

  • @projectgaming3364
    @projectgaming3364 Рік тому +1

    Could you not just attach the hose to the other end of the copper pipe and then you only ever need to turn it easily

  • @rayc1503
    @rayc1503 Рік тому +1

    I'm now using the drain point as one of many flue sampling points Ideal have designed throughout their boiler range 😂.

  • @pauls826
    @pauls826 Рік тому +1

    Love ideals to service soooo easy but thst drain off is a bastard

  • @Vass881234
    @Vass881234 Рік тому +1

    What do you turn off first tho?

  • @willcpfc4720
    @willcpfc4720 Рік тому +1

    Basin spanner set does the trick

  • @Skydiver1000
    @Skydiver1000 Рік тому +1

    It’s a pity that Ideal, and many other manufacturers fail to provide a good design tap for draining the boiler. Or in a location that is easy to get to. If they want to make sure that it’s not mistaken for anything else by the end user then keep the actual tap inside the boiler. I use 1/4 drive long sockets for the small nuts and bolts, but the chamfer lead on them stops any engagement onto this hexagon. If it needs a special tool then it should be given away with the product.

    • @earlestes8649
      @earlestes8649 Рік тому

      Yeah like the drain and flush kit that includes the pop off valve. I don’t know how many I’ve went and installed them a year or two after they were originally installed. It’s nuts!!

  • @freightshayker
    @freightshayker 10 місяців тому

    Noyce

  • @a5amr2
    @a5amr2 Рік тому +6

    When did Phil Mitchell become a plumber

  • @mb106429
    @mb106429 Рік тому +1

    I need a piss now

  • @NibblestheHamster
    @NibblestheHamster 9 місяців тому +1

    If return valve is closed and cold water inlet closed, undo the cold side of the integrated filling loop, put a small piece of drain down hose (the larger one) and then open the return, much easier to drain than clarting on trying to open that drain off, easy when there’s space but if your limited for space just crack the filling loop

    • @UAVWRIGHT
      @UAVWRIGHT 9 місяців тому

      Do those valves need to be closed or can I just unscrew and ain

    • @magdalenenjoki9679
      @magdalenenjoki9679 8 місяців тому

      K4iokekynaphh name gb❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @frianklippelaar7331
    @frianklippelaar7331 7 місяців тому

    I suppose a pipe wrench is also an option

    • @frianklippelaar7331
      @frianklippelaar7331 7 місяців тому

      My bad. In dutch its called a pipe wrench. An english pipe wrench is something else. Box spanner is the correct translation😂🤦‍♂️

  • @mikeznel6048
    @mikeznel6048 Рік тому +1

    Could turn it with a socket too. I like outside of the box ideas though myself.

    • @brians8664
      @brians8664 Рік тому

      plumbers don’t carry sockets or box end wrenches. Why? No company makes ones that are special enough to cost 50x what they should cost 😂

  • @richardwakelin843
    @richardwakelin843 10 місяців тому +1

    A box spanner is built for the job

  • @mcbreartyfull
    @mcbreartyfull 7 місяців тому +1

    Pissing out over floor lad 😂

  • @Lutonman2010
    @Lutonman2010 Рік тому

    That drain off is one of the worst bits about the logic. Along with the stupid bracket that holds the vessel in that’s a pig to line up. I was really surprised to see that terrible drain off design has been carried over to the new logic. Do any of these manufacturers ever actually speak to service and repair guys? Ok they’ve at least sorted out the poor condensate trap this time around. But leaving that drain off? Really?

  • @nico101gaming
    @nico101gaming Рік тому

    Or just drain it through the filling loop 😅

  • @johnwelsh1077
    @johnwelsh1077 8 місяців тому

    Personally I just use a big flat head screwdriver or chisel and put it in the slot that’s there instead of the messing about with copper 😂

  • @chrisgreenaway864
    @chrisgreenaway864 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, a fucking mess!

  • @nathd1748
    @nathd1748 10 місяців тому

    Why is your video back to front Allen? I noticed the filling loop on left and wondered WTF?

  • @burrowlad
    @burrowlad Рік тому

    Great boilers to work on but by far the worst drain off awkward positioning and no matter what you do it always leaks over the hose 🖕🏻

  • @pipedgolf4634
    @pipedgolf4634 Рік тому

    Danm when they said gas workers can go to a job in a white shirt and leave clean I thought they were joking

  • @aronhaxhilari1743
    @aronhaxhilari1743 7 місяців тому

    Open the filling loop point it into the bucket or sink and done

  • @theodore881
    @theodore881 Рік тому

    All boilers have drain and turn by tap don't know why this is like this

  • @fivish
    @fivish Рік тому +2

    This 'plumber' has lots of videos which make you wonder if he is a prankster.
    Water is running down the ouside of his hose!

  • @dr-mn7ld
    @dr-mn7ld Рік тому

    that rule forcing the flexible hose is so dumb

  • @martinlouden9005
    @martinlouden9005 Рік тому

    That's a good tip. I'm not sure why there are so many negative comments?

  • @dunckeroo1987
    @dunckeroo1987 8 місяців тому

    Looks like that tap could use some sealing tape.

  • @James-pz6jc
    @James-pz6jc 10 місяців тому

    Any idea what will fix a L1 code thanks

  • @mx-lj4qq
    @mx-lj4qq Рік тому

    Get your tools and get out of my house 😂😂 just kidding

  • @justinowen8361
    @justinowen8361 Рік тому

    Take it you don’t have a set of tap spanners

  • @maxmerton
    @maxmerton Рік тому

    Am I missing something? Why not a box spanner?

  • @kevinw7419
    @kevinw7419 8 місяців тому

    Ideal, to change it to a better boiler!!

  • @danieldaniel43
    @danieldaniel43 Рік тому

    Looks like a lazy boiler install there. Not one soldered joint

  • @777mjt
    @777mjt Рік тому +5

    Standard garden hose fits over the hex part and grips it enough to turn open, I know I've worked on hundreds of Logics 😎

    • @Chronologist89
      @Chronologist89 Рік тому

      Yeah, that looks like a self-blocking gardena adapter, was thinking the same.

    • @jimbevan4107
      @jimbevan4107 Рік тому

      Are they good boilers?

  • @alexstoles1339
    @alexstoles1339 Рік тому

    Would a long socket fit over it to loosen it?

  • @jazsingh4186
    @jazsingh4186 Рік тому

    Flat head screwdriver

  • @tk4835
    @tk4835 10 місяців тому

    Omg that’s fascinating 🥸

  • @meatballhead3290
    @meatballhead3290 Рік тому

    I'll stick to using PRV 🤣😂

  • @romeomeoful
    @romeomeoful Рік тому

    I need to get my course done

  • @jezlucas3878
    @jezlucas3878 Рік тому

    Quite like the logic

  • @luckyman8319
    @luckyman8319 Рік тому

    Get you hooes

  • @firsteerr
    @firsteerr Рік тому

    box spanner set ?

  • @theodore881
    @theodore881 Рік тому

    Use orange pipe

  • @experienceb4bob
    @experienceb4bob Рік тому

    The problem allan is the water which came out of your pipe outer diameter

  • @mellepasveer6173
    @mellepasveer6173 Рік тому

    That has to be connected always ,that's the pressure overflow

  • @abdoolbeebeejaun8408
    @abdoolbeebeejaun8408 Рік тому

    Hey Allen what is the best pressfit to buy? And where you get the best deal

    • @s.wilson5675
      @s.wilson5675 Рік тому +1

      Hello mate, (I'm not Allen).... I used the Conex brand (copper, not plastic) from Toolstation and been on my CH system 2 years with no problems. Toolstation also sell Pegler, a good brand apparently.
      The MOST important part of using push fit is pipe preparation. Spend extra time to cut pipe square, deburr, clean in and out. Good luck.

    • @FriendlyFireBrigade
      @FriendlyFireBrigade Рік тому

      @@s.wilson5675he asked for PRESS fit, not push fit.

    • @s.wilson5675
      @s.wilson5675 Рік тому

      @@FriendlyFireBrigade Oops. My bad. Thanks for correcting.

  • @scottborton7774
    @scottborton7774 Рік тому +1

    Yea good idea water going everywhere lol

  • @kendevanny4078
    @kendevanny4078 Рік тому +1

    Forget that drain-off it will ruin your Friday. Just dump out the PRV and be done with it.

    • @TWH442
      @TWH442 Рік тому

      yes and then the prv leaks because it wont seal again. cowboy.

    • @kendevanny4078
      @kendevanny4078 Рік тому

      @@TWH442 Oh forgot no one tests the fuction of the prv anymore during a service. Not as if they can be cleaned either. Im such a numpty.

  • @gobrad
    @gobrad Рік тому

    Is it true these combi boilers are only good for a 1 to 2 bedroom house?

    • @AllenHart999
      @AllenHart999  11 місяців тому +1

      did you watch this one? interested to hear your thoughts? Thanks. ua-cam.com/video/zAJPovHxtXs/v-deo.html

  • @petersabatini7817
    @petersabatini7817 Рік тому

    Why don’t you just use a socket with and extension

  • @pigswillbepigs
    @pigswillbepigs Рік тому +1

    Been wondering what they are, They are my grips. 😂