Wow, that's a really sweet machine. I wouldn't mind getting something like that someday; it would be perfect for putting my Sony Watchman back to use. The thing has sat unused since analog TV shut down here in 2011.
i purchased a Standard TVM-860 with a digital display and for some reason they are cheaper than the Blonder Tongues. Now I am watching DVD's on my Panasonic TR-1010P.
I've had one about a year, don't know how I lived without it! Great piece of equipment for watching vintage tv sets. I've got mine set to channel 5 so I can watch the 1948 Admiral 19A11. Now I can at least switch between channels 3, and 5 to enjoy the OSD on the 1977 Maganvox T995 too!
Just got a Standard TVM-860 for $40 and it works great as a RF TV transmitter. The TVM860 comes with digital display, serial console port and network connection. I found sellers were asking too much for the AM60-550 series modulators. I set it up like yours and it works great on CH70 UHF19. Wish I could find a manual. Thanks for your help.
Just got one for my home-built broadcast antenna! I designed the antenna for channel 4, and I'm very excited to try it out! The modulator is gonna arrive tomorrow, so wish me luck! :)
I do really love the idea of playing around with various tv sets without the problem of cables and connections that can get messy when used altogether, this a very informative mr, i hope you could answer my last question
Could you use an rf meter on these? I have multiple modulators. Not sure if there're interfering with each other or not. Or if there're not programed right.
Brilliant. This answered all questions I had about this transmitter. I have a feeling I probably bought mine from the same eBay seller as yours came from. I'm planning to set mine up inside of a large cabinet I have ready to go. I'm going to feed it though an AV switch set up so I can feed it VHS, DVD, LaserDisc soon, and media from my streaming device (A Defunct Wii), whatever I want to watch on my old portable TV collection. I'm really surprised it goes as far as it does from a loop, in your basement. I'm intending to feed mine in to my omnidirectional roof aerial antenna, about 20 feet off the ground. I live in a rather rural area, so I am in no danger of compromising anything anyone uses. Just as an extra level of security I'm going to just set mine up to work on Ch8. In the analog days, it was never a station here. 8 is also right on the top level of where my antenna is tuned for, so I should see the best results from it. It will be nice to use analog televisions wirelessly again. Not that it was ever useable even during analog TV days here. Reception in my area of television was always bad.
That's sweet. Where my grandparents live the TV reception has always been really strong. For a long time they had a mid 1980s TV in their dining room that had no antenna connected to it at all and they got perfect picture on every channel. My Dad and I were just joking about how it was 2015 and we didn't have flying cars and self-lacing Nikes already. Their idea of modern cars seems pretty accurate though. I'll have to check to see if Blonder Tongue ever made modulators for the PAL colour system. I wouldn't mind one of those for my own TVs.
I have a couple of those Channel Vision brand UHF modulator/transmitters, I hook them into one of those 20dB amplifiers (since the unit alone isn't enough in my experience)... you can use those UHF/cable agile modulators like those used in schools for CCTV or for security cameras/DVD players/etc. as well (some brands include Channel Vision, Channel Plus, Radio Shack, etc.), readily available on eBay starting around $30-$40
I have an RCA 19" XL-100 just like that one, it works great and was FREE at an estate sale, a couple years ago! It was sitting on the garage floor with a newer BPC set, all complete, but oddly the lower right hand side is a bit wavy near the bottom side, as if something hot was near it and melted it a bit! Doesn't affect the operation of the set, I think that's why it was free! It's dated 1976, has a delta gun CRT.
You should get several and be able to click your TVs between multiple channels of content (perhaps have several DVD/VCRs looping content for demonstrations)
I had experimented at one time with connecting my VCR to my parents outdoor antenna and I could actually transmit signals to other TVs in the house. But I didn't know if it would be illegal or cause problems since one station in our area was WREG CBS 3 in Memphis and the VCR ran on channel 3 or 4, so I didn't leave it up for long and never tried again since then.
I was really surprised too, especially for it being in an underground basement. (since I was in bed at the time, I didn't see this video until everyone else did)
Wireless is the way to go! Exactly the range you need for everywhere in the house, or even in the yard with a portable TV. In the 1980s there were much simpler devices like this available on the market as 'VCR multipliers'. Somewhere around here I have one, but I believe the UHF channel range is limited 72 to 83, or something like that, so it doesn't work with newer TVs which are limited to CH 2 to 69. The range wasn't too bad because of the 830 to 890 MHz operating frequency, which would easily pass through everything in the house.
"The range wasn't too bad because of the 830 to 890 MHz operating frequency, which would easily pass through everything in the house." Lower frequencies pass through solid objects better than high frequencies do.
Will this only work with certain Blonder Tongue devices? I’m eyeing an RMDA 860-30 Broadband Distribution Amp right now for this purpose, but not sure if it’ll work ok for it.
Hey, trying to recreate this set up. When I try to transmit all I pick up is black screens from my TVs. Maybe something to do with an antenna? I’m at a loss
I'd like to get a rack, and buy a bunch of these to broadcast about every digital channel I can recieve. I've got a handful of Portables that don't have composite input that need some work on their tuners. And even go as far as broadcasting a handful of channels with an output of a few watts, if my license allows me to on the tv band. And, since you're a tv person, one of my portables that I can test using composite has to have the contrast turned all the way up before it looks good. Is that normal, or did I not fix something that was broke?
Hi, Would you please tell me do I need a Blonder Tongue that is digital? I'm using Cable which is digital, and the Player I will be using to broadcast is also digital?
Just curious is having the antenna indoors safe for RF signals to travel around without damaging anything/anyone? I know its not a super high powerful system but over long periods of time? Thanks!
There are already a countless number of RF signals traveling around your house at all times, which is why you can use a cell phone in your house, or turn on a radio and tune in to a bunch of different stations.
It took a while, but I discovered that Blonder Tongues are not just for old analog TVs. They work with digital TVs as well. This is the same kind of system Hotels use with their In-House Movie Channels, where Video becomes Standard Quality instead of High Def for the receiving TV. I think this is where the idea for Direct-TV comes from. How was that other VCR working out? Where you able to capture? Just awesome!
is it really a good idea for playing games with that wireless setup?, im intrigued because of the input lag and latency ruining the experience, do you guys recommend wireless video for games?
Would the cheap “digital RF modulator” on Amazon do the same thing, or do they only output over cable? RF Modulator, KKmoon Compact RF Modulator Audio Video TV Converter RHF UHF Signal Amplifier AC120V www.amazon.com/dp/B079JXQKQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2z1CDbQ2G60X5 Thanks!!
Nice demo! My parents had a RCA XL100 console they bought around 1984. I dont think it's considered a classic TV but it was still made in the USA and very reliable. I think ours only went to the shop 2-3 times in the 15+ years my familyt owned it, and it was still working when we got rid of it. BTW I see an Atari 2600! I highly reccomend getting a Harmony cartridge for it: ua-cam.com/video/lDwVo5j8gOA/v-deo.html
Spat. Very nice video. I have a client that owns an Island way beyond 12 miles out at sea. I live in Seattle and easy to find if you were to contact me. How could you boost that Blonder Tongue to transmit line of sight say 25 miles? My client would like to broadcast home movies or the days events to boats and yachts around his Island, he also has workers that have dwellings on the Island. No laws would be violated he is the law. If you or anybody that reads this could contact me and have the knowledge I can be reached at my name at gmail. I do have an RF back ground just not in the transmitting of RF. I am very serious, thank you.
I don't think Part 15 applies to TV transmitters of this type. Stay far far away from broadcasting on any of the channels in use in the area and in the spectrum now allocated to cell phones (channels 52 to 83). If anything the latter WILL notice a problem as a TV transmitter is essentially a signal jammer. transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet63/oet63rev.pdf (page 7 says no to the TV band) RF leakage from cable lines into the broadcast spectrum is still a big deal. CATV providers have to regularly test for signal leakage on their plant as it interferes with broadcast TV. One reason why all coax cable installs needs to be properly terminated. www.fcc.gov/guides/cable-signal-leakage
500 MHz is channel 19. It is listed on the table. It falls under "periodic transmission." The transmit power we're running is actually way LESS than allowed. Also, the cable TV system here is Comcast, and they do not use analog signals of any kind. We're perfectly within the limits.
I managed to get the same unit for free from a school that used it for their morning show, they do a local network stream now.
Wow, that's a really sweet machine. I wouldn't mind getting something like that someday; it would be perfect for putting my Sony Watchman back to use. The thing has sat unused since analog TV shut down here in 2011.
i purchased a Standard TVM-860 with a digital display and for some reason they are cheaper than the Blonder Tongues. Now I am watching DVD's on my Panasonic TR-1010P.
I've had one about a year, don't know how I lived without it! Great piece of equipment for watching vintage tv sets. I've got mine set to channel 5 so I can watch the 1948 Admiral 19A11. Now I can at least switch between channels 3, and 5 to enjoy the OSD on the 1977 Maganvox T995 too!
Just got a Standard TVM-860 for $40 and it works great as a RF TV transmitter. The TVM860 comes with digital display, serial console port and network connection. I found sellers were asking too much for the AM60-550 series modulators. I set it up like yours and it works great on CH70 UHF19. Wish I could find a manual. Thanks for your help.
Just got one for my home-built broadcast antenna! I designed the antenna for channel 4, and I'm very excited to try it out! The modulator is gonna arrive tomorrow, so wish me luck! :)
That is super cool! I wish I had an agile modulator like yours Spats.
Thanks for explaining the blonder tongue system out.. We are considering adding one to our shop for the same reasons. Take care
Output the signal out to the roof antenna will be a crazy idea
I do really love the idea of playing around with various tv sets without the problem of cables and connections that can get messy when used altogether, this a very informative mr, i hope you could answer my last question
Could you use an rf meter on these? I have multiple modulators. Not sure if there're interfering with each other or not. Or if there're not programed right.
Brilliant. This answered all questions I had about this transmitter. I have a feeling I probably bought mine from the same eBay seller as yours came from. I'm planning to set mine up inside of a large cabinet I have ready to go. I'm going to feed it though an AV switch set up so I can feed it VHS, DVD, LaserDisc soon, and media from my streaming device (A Defunct Wii), whatever I want to watch on my old portable TV collection. I'm really surprised it goes as far as it does from a loop, in your basement. I'm intending to feed mine in to my omnidirectional roof aerial antenna, about 20 feet off the ground. I live in a rather rural area, so I am in no danger of compromising anything anyone uses. Just as an extra level of security I'm going to just set mine up to work on Ch8. In the analog days, it was never a station here. 8 is also right on the top level of where my antenna is tuned for, so I should see the best results from it. It will be nice to use analog televisions wirelessly again. Not that it was ever useable even during analog TV days here. Reception in my area of television was always bad.
That's sweet. Where my grandparents live the TV reception has always been really strong. For a long time they had a mid 1980s TV in their dining room that had no antenna connected to it at all and they got perfect picture on every channel.
My Dad and I were just joking about how it was 2015 and we didn't have flying cars and self-lacing Nikes already. Their idea of modern cars seems pretty accurate though.
I'll have to check to see if Blonder Tongue ever made modulators for the PAL colour system. I wouldn't mind one of those for my own TVs.
I have a couple of those Channel Vision brand UHF modulator/transmitters, I hook them into one of those 20dB amplifiers (since the unit alone isn't enough in my experience)... you can use those UHF/cable agile modulators like those used in schools for CCTV or for security cameras/DVD players/etc. as well (some brands include Channel Vision, Channel Plus, Radio Shack, etc.), readily available on eBay starting around $30-$40
I have an RCA 19" XL-100 just like that one, it works great and was FREE at an estate sale, a couple years ago! It was sitting on the garage floor with a newer BPC set, all complete, but oddly the lower right hand side is a bit wavy near the bottom side, as if something hot was near it and melted it a bit! Doesn't affect the operation of the set, I think that's why it was free! It's dated 1976, has a delta gun CRT.
Great Video. You sure have a lot of vintage tvs. Gary
You should get several and be able to click your TVs between multiple channels of content (perhaps have several DVD/VCRs looping content for demonstrations)
That's our future plan.
I had experimented at one time with connecting my VCR to my parents outdoor antenna and I could actually transmit signals to other TVs in the house. But I didn't know if it would be illegal or cause problems since one station in our area was WREG CBS 3 in Memphis and the VCR ran on channel 3 or 4, so I didn't leave it up for long and never tried again since then.
That is a super sweet modulator! It really does go surprisingly far for just a loop antenna.
I was really surprised too, especially for it being in an underground basement. (since I was in bed at the time, I didn't see this video until everyone else did)
I also wish I had a portable TV like yours so I could watch some shows on it while I'm at college.
Thank you so much for this video. It answers a lot of questions I had about doing my own private CATV.
Wireless is the way to go! Exactly the range you need for everywhere in the house, or even in the yard with a portable TV. In the 1980s there were much simpler devices like this available on the market as 'VCR multipliers'. Somewhere around here I have one, but I believe the UHF channel range is limited 72 to 83, or something like that, so it doesn't work with newer TVs which are limited to CH 2 to 69. The range wasn't too bad because of the 830 to 890 MHz operating frequency, which would easily pass through everything in the house.
"The range wasn't too bad because of the 830 to 890 MHz operating frequency, which would easily pass through everything in the house."
Lower frequencies pass through solid objects better than high frequencies do.
This video helped me out a ton. I have an old Liberty portable TV/radio that I've been having trouble with.
Thanks so much for the video and info! It's great to see the old CRT TVS shine.
Will this only work with certain Blonder Tongue devices? I’m eyeing an RMDA 860-30 Broadband Distribution Amp right now for this purpose, but not sure if it’ll work ok for it.
Hey, trying to recreate this set up. When I try to transmit all I pick up is black screens from my TVs. Maybe something to do with an antenna? I’m at a loss
I need to get one of these for my Watchmans and such as well. What kind of car is that?
I got one a while back after Bandersentv made his vid. I'm gonna hook it up today, your vid reminded me. Now where did I stash it?
Don
Any idea how to get and HDMI signal out of a laptop and onto the Blonder Tongue? I'm looking to broadcast a laptop onto an older BW television.
I'd like to get a rack, and buy a bunch of these to broadcast about every digital channel I can recieve. I've got a handful of Portables that don't have composite input that need some work on their tuners. And even go as far as broadcasting a handful of channels with an output of a few watts, if my license allows me to on the tv band. And, since you're a tv person, one of my portables that I can test using composite has to have the contrast turned all the way up before it looks good. Is that normal, or did I not fix something that was broke?
Hi, Would you please tell me do I need a Blonder Tongue that is digital? I'm using Cable which is digital, and the Player
I will be using to broadcast is also digital?
I'd like to try it, but how is the transmitting antenna set up?
What about HDTV transmission? Would it support high definition?
Cool but be VERY careful if there is any complaints to the FCC they can find and shut down your signal
Just curious is having the antenna indoors safe for RF signals to travel around without damaging anything/anyone? I know its not a super high powerful system but over long periods of time? Thanks!
There are already a countless number of RF signals traveling around your house at all times, which is why you can use a cell phone in your house, or turn on a radio and tune in to a bunch of different stations.
@@MaximRecoil Thank you for the response!
Do you reccomend this to play retro games on original consoles wirelessly?, do you notice input lag or any latency when playing :o?
Do you have UHF Antenna for view KDKA?
Doing the same thing fot the same reason. Good video🤙
I got one but it just transmit all black on the TV.
It took a while, but I discovered that Blonder Tongues are not just for old analog TVs. They work with digital TVs as well.
This is the same kind of system Hotels use with their In-House Movie Channels, where Video becomes Standard Quality
instead of High Def for the receiving TV. I think this is where the idea for Direct-TV comes from.
How was that other VCR working out? Where you able to capture? Just awesome!
How many db does your amplifier go to?
can your neighbors receive it to?
I guess the one both aside his house, with a good antenna, probably!
Do you have código canal 98,
Can you also hook up things like a VCR, game system, or cable box to that?
Yes. Anything with a composite video (Yellow RCA connector, plus audio) output will work.
Yep. So we have the ability to play Super Mario Brothers on around a hundred TVs at once :-)
***** Yep and YEP!
is it really a good idea for playing games with that wireless setup?, im intrigued because of the input lag and latency ruining the experience, do you guys recommend wireless video for games?
Would the cheap “digital RF modulator” on Amazon do the same thing, or do they only output over cable?
RF Modulator, KKmoon Compact RF Modulator Audio Video TV Converter RHF UHF Signal Amplifier AC120V www.amazon.com/dp/B079JXQKQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2z1CDbQ2G60X5 Thanks!!
Nice demo! My parents had a RCA XL100 console they bought around 1984. I dont think it's considered a classic TV but it was still made in the USA and very reliable. I think ours only went to the shop 2-3 times in the 15+ years my familyt owned it, and it was still working when we got rid of it. BTW I see an Atari 2600! I highly reccomend getting a Harmony cartridge for it: ua-cam.com/video/lDwVo5j8gOA/v-deo.html
My going get stereo model I have 2005 sanyo stereo CRT tv I also want to get HiFi stereo vcr to record in stereo
Spat. Very nice video. I have a client that owns an Island way beyond 12 miles out at sea. I live in Seattle and easy to find if you were to contact me. How could you boost that Blonder Tongue to transmit line of sight say 25 miles? My client would like to broadcast home movies or the days events to boats and yachts around his Island, he also has workers that have dwellings on the Island. No laws would be violated he is the law. If you or anybody that reads this could contact me and have the knowledge I can be reached at my name at gmail. I do have an RF back ground just not in the transmitting of RF. I am very serious, thank you.
I don't think Part 15 applies to TV transmitters of this type. Stay far far away from broadcasting on any of the channels in use in the area and in the spectrum now allocated to cell phones (channels 52 to 83). If anything the latter WILL notice a problem as a TV transmitter is essentially a signal jammer.
transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet63/oet63rev.pdf (page 7 says no to the TV band)
RF leakage from cable lines into the broadcast spectrum is still a big deal. CATV providers have to regularly test for signal leakage on their plant as it interferes with broadcast TV. One reason why all coax cable installs needs to be properly terminated.
www.fcc.gov/guides/cable-signal-leakage
500 MHz is channel 19. It is listed on the table. It falls under "periodic transmission." The transmit power we're running is actually way LESS than allowed.
Also, the cable TV system here is Comcast, and they do not use analog signals of any kind. We're perfectly within the limits.
Show us your car!
He's gonna do what we both have been meaning to do, a SaabKyle-like video once spring thaw gets here.
that is cool ^^
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