Their Roommate Exposed Them to High Levels of Radon Gas
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Please do not collect samples of radium or other radioactive elements, and if you do, please tell your roommates...
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Honestly, after the sarin story the radon one doesn't seem that bad.
hahaha
Title should've been something like "Rooming with loads of radium"
where can i find the sarin story?
@@nekro1977 It starts at 6:55
The Cobalt 60 source was nuts. To be holding a pellet outside of a pig or in an oil box if F-ing crazy.
The acetylene story reminds me of an incident I was involved in.
A few years ago I was at a hardware store buying...hardware items, not otherwise specified...when a customer came in asking for calcium carbide. The clerk had no idea what the guy wanted. I know what it is so the little "Home Depot employee" silicon chip inside my head was switched to overload and I decided to qualify the customer - very few people would have use for this chemical.
"Sir, what are you going to do with calcium carbide?"
"I'm going to melt the ice on my driveway." Which calcium carbide would probably do, in a manner of speaking, but it's not the recommended method.
"No sir. You want calcium chloride, not calcium carbide."
"My buddy told me to get calcium carbide."
"Calcium chloride melts ice. Calcium carbide mixed with water makes acetylene, which is a flammable gas that can explode. They used it in old miner's headlamps."
"Oh! Umm...where's the calcium chloride, then?"
"You're standing next to a skid of it. Get a lot. It doesn't go very far when you're doing a whole driveway."
Plz no carbide on your driveway
If you weren't in for bondage equipment i'm sorely disappointed
I now kinda wanna see calcium carbide vs the ice on the driveway lol
Me reading a person with a roommate that collects radioactive stuff: this is F'ed up
Me reading the consequent story of someone exposed to Sarin and VX: maybe radioactivity isn't that fed up
To be fair, the US military is a highly organized institution that receives trillions of dollars in funding every year to spend on the most qualified researchers, safety inspectors, and professional trainers, while that guy is just some guy.
I don't entirely understand why they wouldn't use something weaker though. I've heard Navy SEAL training uses live rounds, because you need to be able to operate under the pressure of potentially actually getting shot, but I can only guess if the same reasoning applies here.
@@GarryDumblowski look up edgewater arsenal human trials to this day the subjects cannot even get help(there was a 50 year nda that prevented them from even telling their doctor what was did to them ) from the military from being misled into human trials with chemical weapons
@@jaquan123ism ...Right. the US military is Like That.
Am I allowed to say it should be completely abolished
@@GarryDumblowski Well of course you're allowed to say that! Just as I'm allowed to tell you that that is a terrible idea.
@@theodorekorehonen I dunno, I don't feel any safer with it here LMAO
I suddenly have the urge to buy a Geiger counter.
Anyone got a recommendation? Don't need something fancy, I just want it to tell me if my environment gets too spicy.
@@gonun69 You might actually be able to get away with an indicator badge in that case. They change color when irradiated iirc
I’d picked up a Geiger-counter on the principle of ‘better to have and not need…’
After it arrived, I put batteries in and started wandering around, just to try and figure out if it was working and to see if any of my stuff had something interesting to it.
‘Something interesting’ is how I might describe my collection of glow-in-the-dark rocks. You shine a UV light on them, and they fluoresce, which to this day tickles the kid in me.
Well, the Geiger counter revealed that one of those glow-in-the-dark rocks was slightly warm. By which I mean, mathing out it’s exposure levels told me that keeping it in my pocket for a about ten months would be fatal.
Fortunately, I’d been keeping it someplace safe - on a shelf an arms length away from my bed.
Said rock now lives inside a metal tin kept in storage shelf well away from common living spaces.
Some things that glow in the dark are scarier than others.
Are that tin and shelf vented? Or will any gaseous decay products just accumulate in the tin?
@@OrenTirosh they’d accumulate which I think is ok.
Overpressure isn’t a concern (not a big rock - it would fit in any pocket) and if overpressure somehow were a problem it’d just push open the lid - it’s a simple friction fit.
The lid contains any gaseous decay products away from living spaces, which I’m ok with - I’d actually prefer to not coat my living spaces in a fine dust of decay products.
Sounds like a uraninite specimen.
Almost certainly uranium containing mineral. Uranium fluoresces strongly under UV. If so, then it'll be mainly an alpha emitter, so even though it's a spicy rock, it is very non penetrating type of radiation. Unless you have a habit of licking the rock, it'll be pretty safe (you don't want an alpha emitter inside you, and you specifically don't want uranium inside you, because it's very toxic heavy metal in addition to being radioactive). Note that it will release radon upon decay, so you'll want to keep it somewhere where that is not a problem.
@@tylisirn so as long as op isn’t a geologist they’re pretty much fine
I love it how at 9:52 the guy simply says LOL after touching a massive radioactive piece of toxic metal.
r/legaladvice is the wrong place to be asking what to do when your roommate has a Soviet device that releases radioactive gas.
1. Evacuate
2. Call the NRC
3. Find a place to sleep tonight
4. Only then do you call a lawyer.
The NRC will have the equipment to identify and quantify the contamination (information your lawyer will need), then clean it up and make the area safe. The good news is that radon has a really short half life so they will just remove the radium and air out the building for a week or so.
Why would there just be a pellet of cobalt 60 in a room, that's terrifying. Even for training
The military just hates it’s members
I can see it now: "Veterans Affairs has reviewed your claim and has determined that your radiation burns are not service related."
Yeah. I once worked at a lab that needed a cobalt-60 source (I can't say why, sorry) it was behind a ridiculously thick panel of lead, and the entire machine was in the basement, behind 2.5-ish inch thick lead doors, for good measure apparently.
The source was about 6 inches in diameter, and 1 inch thick. (Again, I can't say why we needed this much cobalt-60)
Just having a source sitting in a room terrifies me.
@@nikkiofthevalley I would not feel comfortable being in the same room as that source, and honestly probably not that facility at that point. I like my dna not being damaged.
@@RoastedToastedPoops Maybe its because I grew up near a constantly malfunctioning nuclear plant (not national news levels but also far more than should be allowed for a nuclear plant), but I prefer to not be in the same town as a radiation source.
Well finaly I have something to add to chempolation.
So every week we do some organic synthesis in the lab. Last week we were preparing benzoin and we were using small amount of potassium cyanide.
Just a day before my friend texts me that he's really nervous about working with cyanides, since they can react with the humidity in air and create HCN.
So guess what happend. When some girl went to get the KCN, took the needed amount and left the dose open. Yes, no joke. She just left the KCN opened at the table outside of fumehood. I don't know what she thought, but immediately when I saw the open container I quickly went to close It and set the fume hoods on max ventilation.
Quite scary experience. Even tho the bottle probably wasn't open too long, It was still quite scary to see a open bottle of KCN just standing there on the table.
It's pretty alarming but at least it's only acute.
im not so sure if you want to have a story worth of chempolation
@@wooy1701 no I don't, the first sentence was meant as sarcasm
Aren't Co-60 sources engraved with "Drop & run" on them? Picking it up again after you picked it up once is an unprecedented level of sadomasochism.
The activity of those Co-60 sources depends on the intended purpose and age.
They can be used for industrial irradiation at such high activity values they’re able to ionise air in the direct vicinity and generate Cherenkov radiation.
The notorious drop and run sources only measure about 2mCi now. No laughing matter but not instant ARS material now at least 😅.
@@catfission Still, I peronally wouldn't go for seconds after the main course of radiation
These Chempilations are making me question my school’s safety procedures.
I wish you could be on national TV. The safety people are only people. We all need to keep an eye out for trouble and speak respectfully to each other about the difficulties we see.
Radon gas naturally comes up through the ground from decaying uranium in the bedrock. That’s why me and many homeowners have their sump pump radon systems
In Year 10 chemistry class, we were given a list of chemicals to mix in test tubes which would then sediment into layers of different colours. We then had to identify which football team each test tube was (Australian football - AFL). Red and white for Sydney Swans, brown and yellow for Hawthorn, etc. While mixing one of them, we got red, yellow and blue, the Adelaide Crows colours, along with a fairly foul smell. Apparently whoever designed the exercise wasn't a fan of Adelaide.
Chemistry-football, the best football. Also allows you to see whether the designer of the exercise likes or dislikes a specific team.
Holy fuck that nerve agent story literally freaked me out. VX is one of the wost things ever. I thought live training would be done with chlorine, ammonia or maybe mustard gas, but not sarin and VX, which can kill you by minor skin contact. Good she got the atropine shot.
That's why I call BS on it.. there is no gain and only risk when u can use ammonia or cs gas or whatever... u don't shoot at eachother wearing body Armour just bcoz it protects u.
@@kungfreddie CBRN school is performed at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. It is verifiable by a simple google search. The goal is to reduce the fear and panic that may be occur if these officers are ever exposed to these chemicals in the wild, and perhaps also to weed out who is not suited for CBRN responsibilities, as this story shows.
Fake af story
I wonder if there will be any follow up to the person with radon gas exposure
Omg so many scary stories in today's episode.
This is just what happens when you enter Radon Canyon
But Radon is rad, right?
Doesn't the word rad come from radioactive?
Actually iirc biorad is called that way because of biologicals and radioactives
It comes from the word "radical"
@@jakubskop73 perfect, free chlorine radicals are rad
@@jakubskop73 Yep, and the word 'radical' comes from the Latin word 'radix' meaning 'root'. So, radishes are pretty rad. Radon poisoning is not
I've learned that hard way that DMSO damages plastics. No real damage, just white spots on the plastic casing of electronics.
Remembering the time a kid in my high school chemistry class tried to rig the lab equipment to distill hydrogen peroxide… the dangerous way. Attempted to use aluminum foil, straws and a gas burner for heat. The kid got burnt. Chemistry teacher freaked out.
The acetylene story shows how chemists aren't the best designers of apparatus, it's sometimes makeshift
So *that's* what will happen if I keep kicking barrels into the launch bay.
👀👀👀
5:17 i live in the northwest, and radon is just really common here. everyone i know has either tested their house or has a radon pipe installed that vents the gas naturally in the soil up to the roof. i also live about 15 minutes from two huge uranium ore mines (open pit mines). The background here is only equal to about one x ray per 70 years though (that's above the average of the rest of the US).
Common sense is only PPE if you're using proper PPE along side it, otherwise you just have sparkling idiocy
Part of the common sense is to use the PPE.
When I took Chem 101 in college, we were doing an experiment including testing the radiation level of a particular setup, with a radon source. One of the hoses popped off the connector and sprayed radon right in my face. Nothing happened to me at all, but it did leave me relatively nervous.
Collecting old clocks? Trying to be a nuclear boy scout? That the most famous story of a amateur trying to create a nuclear reactor at home by collecting old clock handles and smoke detectors. Really interesting story a few videos are on YT. Look for nuclear boy scout.
Oh and swedish guy that tried the same in his kitchen. But he called the swedish nuclear agency to check if it was legal.
Well it wasn't.
As someone who worked a lot with acetylene, that first story scares me. People don't understand how much acetylene likes to explode...
I work in jewelry and procedure is to always chain your tanks to a solid wall!
A room full of acetylene sounds like fun.. back in high school we had to learn to light a oxy acetylene torch and when it came to a mate of mine turn, he couldn't get the striker to work and after a while i moved away since i had plenty of experience with acetylene and knew there was about to be a big fire ball.. seeing me move away my mate turned the gas off but the teacher said it was ok and turned it back on way more than normal, my very nervous mate kept trying the striker and after a few minutes he finally got a spark and disappeared in a giant fire ball, the roof had a big black mark, the room was full of soot floates and my mate and the teacher lost a lot of hair 🤣
We lit them in college in sculpture, and used them in the forge. I was fairly comfortable by then because I'd already taken a semester of my jewelry and metals major. In jewelry we had air/acetylene, plus oxy/acetylene for casting, and honestly, the loud phwomps those air/acetylene torches could make lighting if you used larger torch tips was scary at first! When we were doing our first test lighting if we couldn't light it after 3-4 strikes we'd turn the gas off, let the behind the bench exhaust system draw away any excess gas, then try again. You were also supposed to light it close to the bench, and more importantly the exhaust, but students would forget and light them up in the air, using too much gas, sending out mini fireballs from time to time...I always went over to them, if it was after hours or our prof didn't see, and I'd remind them of the proper lighting procedure. Yes, I was the walking safety monitor and wasn't liked for it, but it's better to be safe than stupid.
i'll buy my mom a geiger counter for her birthday
I was exposed to low levels of Radon gas for about eight years in my basement (April 2013-May 2021). I spent a good majority of my time in my basement as it was my office. We're talking about 8 to 10 hours a day, everyday. My wife wanted to move to a bigger house. A Radon test took place and low levels were coming up were my office was located. The tester told me not to worry about it. Fast forward to September 2022, I'm starting to have weird symptoms that I can't explain. My chest, back and shoulders hurt really bad. I have completely lost my appetite. I'm slowly losing weight and have severe fatigue. I'm constantly nauseated and my throat feels like someone is choking me. I'm having cold sensations and occasionally have the shakes. My doctor is working to find out what is wrong with me. I haven't mentioned the Radon gas exposure as I didn't think it was relevant. I'm open to comments.
couldnt hurt to buy a tester or at least mention it
I know I'm replying to an old comment but "I haven't mentioned the Radon gas exposure as I didn't think it was relevant," is entirely the wrong attitude to take into a medical exam or any other kind of professional consultation. You're going to someone who knows what's relevant and what isn't, precisely because you don't. Tell them everything, let them decide. Anyway, I hope you're ok.
I had something like this happen to me. Reply if you want to know what it turned out to be.
@@-yeme- He didn't think it was relevant for his doctor to know, but is somehow relevant enough to post a comment about it.
#suggestion.
Can you do a teirlist of Derek Lowe's "things I won't work with" blogs?
I second this suggestion, that would be cool!
Radon levels and exposure over time , are a cause for concern , as the longer the exposure and levels you are exposes to , dictate your risk .
While the case of Radium Boy sounds bad , I know of many natural environments where the Radon levels are exponentially higher .
One of these is a small short cave in a heavily visited National Park .
While the levels they measured would be a cause for alarm in a dwelling or workplace setting , in a short cave that takes all of a 5 minutes to see the entire thing , it is really not a huge risk .
So , applying regulations that govern either workplace or levels in dwellings , to a natural feature such as this cave , was asinine at best .
The cave has been closed to all visitors ever since and will never be reopened .
Worse still , is a state park , with a very large and historically important cave .
The radon levels are off the charts here as well
The response of the State , was to close the cave for visitation , even though it would take 10 years of continuous exposure to those levels to incur a demonstrable and fairly certain risk of cancer .
Decades prior , the people who did the initial survey , mapping and exploration , of this new State Park , spent DAYS at a time underground .
They mapped well over 12 miles of passage and even discovered many priceless artifacts that were later preserved .
State policy is to allow visitation to all state owned caves via a permit , but , because of the radon levels , they refuse to allow visitation of THIS cave .
Concern for the artifacts was never brought up to defend their excuse .
Much of my state is underlain by a black shale that was once proposed as a source of uranium for the Manhatten project , so , high radon levels are the rule rather than the exception .
In Colorado , it is white granites and one ( 1) psycho with a Radium fetish .
Just for shits and giggles , get a radiation detector and take it to the local big box hardware store , and turn it on so it audibly reads the background levels . Walk it to the countertop section and point it at the white granites and you might just get a surprise , maybe even cause a panic .
If the white granite countertops don't fet a rise out of the detector , good chance the red or pink colored ones will ( Potassium isotopes in the K Feldspar ..) . You can wear a full gumby suit while doing this , but , it makes a swift getaway more difficult .
Yes , the EPA even has a page about radiation in stone countertops .
So do industry groups and individual companies as well .
It is a slight but not zero risk thing really , and , in most cases other than the unlikely event you just have veins of high grade uranium , thorium , or , radium minerals present , is not a huge concern .
If they were , chances are they would be mining the granite instead of slicing it up for countertops .
Bro wrote an essay to say it’s not that bad
Yeah the radon isn't the scary part of that story. The cause for concern is that the guy is sloppily handling a large amount of radioactive sources. A controlled exposure of that amount of radon would be fine, but is that really all of it and are all the exposure routes known? That's a lot of radium alone. All contained, or making dust? It could be fine (thus far) but when you learn some of the contents of the cabinet you don't know if it's fine or very bad.
Thank god the cadres were so skilled at getting her decontaminated and into an ambulance so quickly.
"So what will I be doing in this job?"
"You'll be working with acetylene and.."
"Pass."
Your video titles always feel like a direct punch to my throat
These Chempilations make me so, so glad the only thing vaguely chemistry-related beyond cooking food that I ever have to do in my entire life is when I'm tanning animals hides, and even then it's just neutralizing citric acid with baking soda at the end of the pickle.
Wanna hear a scarier story. 😂 As an amature chemist, I gassed my entire house, with sulfuric acid fumes. I had set up this amature lab in my walk-in closet.
(In my own defense. It did have amazing ventilation... I cut a hole in the floor and used two large microwave exhaust fans. One for my reaction chamber... One just to circulate fresh air through the room. )
It was my first time trying this synth. It was the oxidation of toluene using manganese ammonium alum in sulfuric acid.
Long story short. My reaction vessel fractured because the heating element broke and got stuck on high. (I was on the toilet when it happened. ) This was years ago before I bought my first mag stir 😂
This caused the h2so4 to beging boiling and vaporizing. Then some bubble out and dripped down the side of the glass... Upon making contact with the burner the whole flask shattered. Leaking sulfuric acid all over the burner.
I come back from my epic dump. To see the house filling up with all kinds of bad shit... Vaporized h2so4... Likely some hydrogen sulfide... Maybe a little surfer dioxide who really knows at this point. There was all kinds of secondary reactions going on from the spill.
I threw on my goggles and a gas mask to get close enough to pull the cord on the burner... then opened every window in the house... and set up some fans.
I couldn't go inside my house for like 2 hours! Then I had to deep clean everything before my parents got home! As there was acid dew all over the place.
You will be happy to know I moved my labspace to the garage. It's not connected to the house. I actually have a hood, running water, and store everything according to Merk standards. 😂
Some fun side facts... My first reaction ever was the Castner process 😂 I built my own Castner cell to make sodium metal.
My local Lowe's quit selling potassium nitrate stump remover because of me. 😂 They thought I was a terrorist. I was actually using it to make nitric acid for precious metal recovery from salvaged electronics.
Honestly with that nerve gas story, I think the main takeaway is that the gas masks need to be better-designed, if it is that easy to break the seal just by touching the mask.
So a note about the Radon story, anyone in the radiation protection field is going to use uCi/mL not pCi/L. My back of the napkin math and being conservative by using the value of 600pCi/L gets me a concentration of 6E-7 uCi/mL in the radiation protection field you equate airborne radioactivity to dose by using something called a DAC (Derived air concentration) value. It is different for different isotopes Plutonium-239 usually being the worst with a DAC value of 5E-12 uCi/mL. To equate the airborne concentration to DAC you divide your value in uCi/mL by your DAC value in this case 8E-8 for Rn-222 so conservatively that person was standing in 7.5 DAC Air. To equate DAC to exposure you multiply by exposure time in hours to give you DAC Hours then multiply by 2.5 to get your exposure in mRem. so for every hour of standing in that room it would be basically equivalent to 18.75 mRem of dose from a gamma source. If that person was at home for an average of 12 hours a day for 365 days their annual dose would be 82,125 mRem or 82.125 Rem (0.82Sv) . While nowhere near a lethal dose that is still a scary number considering the maximum amount of dose allowed by law to be given to a Radiological worker in the US is 5000mRem/year. There is another equally scary explanation and that is it could be gamma given off by the Radium and its daughters causing the Radon detector to read erroneously high. While this might mean that the true exposure value is less than in my math above it is still not a nice thought. Only way to check that would be to get a calibrated ion chamber and see what the actual gamma dose is. I cant legally say that either assessment of the situation is correct due to both too many unknown variables and the fact that I am not a Certified Health Physicist this was just a fun knowledge exercise for me based on some very basic math that I am not even 100% sure I have right.
The radon story is so insane. Having spoken to attorneys before on various boring topics, with a story this crazy, you can walk into any law office during business hours, tell a summary to the paralegal, and they can help you find the correct attorney. There are also services to do the same thing run by the state bar, attorney general, etc. for normal situations, but in crazy situations, law offices refer to each other as professional courtesy and duty to the public. Part of the job of a paralegal to filter these inquiries
touch cobalt-60
immediately irradiate entire platoon
refuse to elaborate
leave
I wish I had 13.5 MILLICURIES of radium.
I wish I had 13.5 MEGACURIES of radium.
3:09 my furniture started floating
Sounds to me like that roommate should be moving out... to jail.
We need a t-shirt like:
"You got lucky." -That Chemist
Bro I did a line of cobalt 60 for my birthday; didn’t hurt me nun
OH MY GOD NOT THE COBALT 60
Oh god, as someone who's probably going to collect radioactive stuff when I get the money, that radon gas story is my worst fear. I'm definitely not buying ANYTHING until I have the properly equipment to make sure I'm being safe
Storage shed separated from the house and good ventilation does just fine.
That radium story makes me wanna buy a geiger counter, they can detect alpha, beta and gamma radiation right?
It depends on the specifications of the instrument that you buy
I've always wanted to make a Radon arc / discharge tube.
Next Step : Run Forest Run!
Isn't cobolt-60 the kind of thing they make the standard weights of with 'DROP and RUN' indented on the side?
Oof, sounds like that apartment complex may or has become a superfund site...
I thought for sure that radon story was going to turn out to be environmental radon from the soil! It’s somehow worse that it wasn’t
why was this man collecting radium
that is not a normal hobby to have
yeah idk, some people do strange things
9:52 You should read some decontamination descriptions used in IAEA incident reports.
I have spilled aircraft grade paint stripper on my skin. It's methylene chloride and a thickener, basically. I got some serious second-degree chemical burns from it.
F
@@That_Chemist yeah, I bet you can imagine how much that stings
Methylene chloride paint stripper always seems to find a way to get inside my gloves when I'm using it... When the burning/tingling sensation starts, it's time to put on a new pair!
That first story is the stuff on Nightmares. Acetylene tank, acetylene in the air and a poodle of sulphuric acid... Get me outta here ! Like several city clocks away outta here.
For the radioactive material collecting/hoarding dude... Call the army and mention that someone is collecting insane amount of radioactive material in your apartment, while getting the hell outta the place. Give the address and a decontamination and disposal detachment IS on their way. That roommate is in some deep💩
These videos need cartoons to go with them
Kind of a close race for the Yikes Award in this one... 😬
Yeah lol
I would move out and call the department of energy or epa. That’s scary shit
well that's not poggers
i wonder if pure argon gas would get you high
She should obviously move asap
Common sense and PPE. Better to be safe than sorry.
Call the NRC
I found holes in my lab coat last lab, we were working with hcl and naoh, not sure which one burned the holes
Where tf do you get radon its radioactive, its fast-decaying and its in the nobel gasses part of TPT
8:58 This is tantamount to someone putting an unlabelled 55 gallon drum of HCN in a closet of an office building. I question the validity of this story. This can't happen. There are significant laws and regulations the prevent this sort of thing from happening.
thats my first name and last name combined haha
I'm not sure I believe the radon story. I would think you would need tons of radium to produce even micrograms of radon. For the kind of levels mentioned in the story I'd be surprised if an apartment full of open 55 gallon drums of radium be enough.
LOL this is insane hahahah. How much worse can it get
That is a proper Yikes! 🤯
how could the OP in the first story smell acetylene?
pure acetylene is odourless, which makes it all the more hazardous
There was probably a foul-smelling impurity - I can’t say if I recall the smell of acetylene
I was taught (in welding class) that pure acetylene has a very faint sweet smell, even tho wikipedia says it's odorless. but it's one of those that only some people can smell. Like asparagus pee smell. Commercially they sometimes add smelly stuff to
Personally I haven't noticed a sweet smell, but I actually find it kinda stings the nostrils. Acetone vapour, maybe? I know acetylene is dissolved in acetone in the tank, since otherwise it cannot be compressed above 15 psi without explosively decomposing.
I never tried smelling acetylene straight out from an acetylene generator.
The acetylene you buy from a welding supply store has a chemical added to it to make it smell like garlic. This makes me wonder why they were buying their acetylene instead of using an acetylene generator.
@@jmowreader9555 You have to pay extra for that. We had that at the welding school, but at the shop it’s just normal acetylene.
At the school even the oxygen had a smelly chemical.
@@jmowreader9555 probably a trace of phosphine
I wish I was exposed to radon gas ;.;
I buy KOH from the hardware store and make my own degreaser/oven cleaner with no PPE or often even clothes, just my prescription glasses and my birthday suit.
In a reused food grade LDPE bottle
I know sometimes I make soap from my fingertips, and I’m very proactive with the kitchen sink/“safety shower”
So far no actual injuries.
MEOW
Do the US really train with vx and sarin? What's the point? U can do the same with a non lethal... there is absolutely no gain and all risk. I call BS on that story!
It’s true - you can ask anyone who does CBRN training
Not first
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look up radioactive drew. millicuries!!!!! of radium! I would be way more worried about radiation and radium contamination. her roommate might be radioactive. if you watch his show, he visits a radon therapy resort. apparently, it's legal in Montana. lol the chick freaks out and is expelled from the program. typical in the military. hey alarms go off some people freak out.
Radium guy was a bit too into radium
In case of the radon roommate, I'd start with contacting NRC, because that amount of radioactives in private hands can't be legal.
It's very illegal to improperly store radium!!! In that amount, fucking stupid! We all remember the radioactive boy scout... I worked in a decommission lab for a couple years. Radium was treated with the highest standards and procedures. It's Fucking nasty, history is pretty clear on the matter. It's and alpha emitter. Grandpa's watch might give you ling cancer. It was a top tier materials, right next to plutonium. I would call the NRC ASAP!! I don't understand educated people when it comes to the danger of radioactive materials. You talk to a biologist and they'll tell you watch the fuck out, talk to a nuclear pharmacist and they tell you the same. Talk to the engineer at a nuclear power plant and you get the Homer Simpson reference quick. "No danger at all kid."
I don't think the *amount* was illegal, but there's absolutely no way you're allowed to have that much in an unsecured and unshielded storage environment.
Civilian or not, there's a ton of regulations on anything near that amount of hot material.
That sounds pretty lame.
@@Tunkkis fucking stupid is what I call it.
By removing the radium from the consumer products it became illegal. Otherwise, completely legal to have.
I spilled some product in a 1st year Chem lab and got 0% yield. This channel makes me feel 100% better knowing that I at least didn't get poisoned.
Radon boy needs to go. :\
At least you can see him coming in the dark , so , sneak attacks are not an option for him .
Yes radon boy aka the nuclear boyscout make very bad neighbor.
Every time I watch these story time videos I become more and more concerned for people
Check out the Darwin awards. Simultaneously hilarious and sad.
If my roommate secretly had a giant stash of radium, I would help give him some first hand experience of what being a Radium Girl was like 😐
XD
Mouth pipetting radium?
Well, at least they wouldn't need a dentist anymore.
... _Or oxygen for that matter..._
Find some doctors and tell them you’re willing to be studied as your bones rot if your medical bills are covered
@@Volvith it also turns out that you can stay underwater without breathing (once you're dead) 😁😵💀
I'm a nuclear engineering student. One of our practical classes had us operating with actual irradiated clay samples from one of the very few research reactors in the country. The clay samples were stored in these little capsules that would be circulated through the reactor and get irradiated as it traveled; the capsules were 1960s tech like everything else including the reactor, so the team who previously assembled the sample capsules used clear tape to further secure them so they won't pop off during travel.
So, we were supposed to open them with those massive metallic tweezers, with ppe including glass screens and plastic gloves (alpha particles only, so it's fine). However, the team who taped the capsules put them way too tight, and the clear tape would just rip off when we try to open them. In the end, like 9 out of 10 sample capsules had to be opened with bare hands.
By sheer coincidence, my capsules were the tightest yet. Each group got 2 samples, and I was taked to open mine. The first sample was fine, a bit tight but I got it to open under a minute as per the procedure was supposed to go. The second sample though... It took me 2 minutes of pants shitting terror once I realized that it was so ungodly tight that in my scramble to open it, my gloves tear off, and I even broke skin a little bit from twisting the cap off. After I got it open and passed the sample to a lead container for my group mates to carry off, I went to decontaminate with special soaps and stuff. Out of everyone else interacting directly with the capsules, I was the only one who had to wash twice because my left hand got irradiated quite a lot.
The radiation levels were nowhere near high enough for me to get lasting impacts, but my left hand got this tiny radiation-induced mole the day after it all happened. I got it checked and it was dormant, so no worries.
This story happened only a few days ago. A friend of mine was in a Reactor Technology lab, and he had to inject some high conc. formic acid, I think using an automatic syringe pusher machine. I believe the syringe locked up or something, but whatever happened, He was sprayed with 98% formic acid solution... Luckily he was wearing safety goggles, and the first thing he texted me afterwards is that he hates how cold the eyewash station feels, so I think he's fine.
He was went to the hospital just to be sure though.
I think you'll get a kick out of this.
I went to HVAC school some 10ish years ago, and I had a pretty cool teacher. Nice guy, been around for a while. One day, he's telling us about dangers to be aware of, our area had a bunch of low pressure steam which can be very dangerous if you fix it incorrectly, the dangers of getting into high pressure steam work, dangers of ammonia as a refrigerant, and then he told us about how he went to fix a friend's fridge, and the friend failed to tell him how old the fridge was exactly. I think he said this was in the 80s, the fridge was from the 30s or something, and used Hydrogen Sulfide. Man had it in his kitchen, and my teacher was just gonna vacuum pump whatever refrigerant was in it out, patch the leak, and pump some new stuff in. He starts it, gets a whiff, and gets out.
Fairly sure he said they threw the fridge out after he told them he wasn't gonna work on it.
someday i want to get a gamma ray spectrometer and a geiger counter, because being able to know what it is could be helpful. i forget what radiation geiger counters detect, but having both would be good to get the best of both
Why the hell would they train with LIVE nerve agent? WTF!? Why not just use a mercaptan?
that is an excellent question - I guess this way they get to practice administering antidote lol
I'd guess as an excuse to manufacture, store, and transport it without breaking their treaties with other nation-states. It gives them a small supply the CIA or whatever can quietly steal from to assassinate their enemies or whatever.
@@That_Chemist u can't be that naive that u really believe that story. Yea let's give Sarin to our troops sowe can Train giving antidotes, bcoz that's impossible to do a doll! If the antidotes don't work, no biggie.. not like it would headline news if the US army just nervegased its own troops for no good reason. I mean the military LOVE bad press. And also it's not like vx and sarin is persistent so it would be a damn nightmare to do decontamination...
U should b a bit more skeptical... a non skeptical science channel is like scientology without famous ppl!
Hearing all these stories, I can’t help but think about the field of work I’m in.
I work for a major power company (biggest in my state), and safety is baked into the culture.
Outside of hurricane response work, I’m usually not in the field-instead I’m at my desk either training folk or working on my own designs for future residential electrical layouts (underground, specifically).
Much like with chemistry, electricity is a beast that can be tamed, so long as you don’t become complacent.
Even from behind the computer, the restrictions on how a layout can be designed takes safety into consideration. Improper designs could not only be expensive to remedy, but could result in damage to equipment.
In my few years at the company, I haven’t seen or heard about any fatalities… but the risk is always there, not just for linemen, but also the general public if we lose focus.
You care about damaging the equipment... Yes, you need to, but, improper designs can also be deadly.
@@Kualinar Improper designs from my end could result in damage to both equipment, as well as folk.
Thankfully, there are many procedures in place that would prevent faulty designs from reaching the field (at least for the process I'm trained in. I can't speak for other projects)
Definitely not as bad as some of the other stories but here’s mine:
So year 12 in high school we had to do an esterification (reflux) reaction using an alcohol and carboxylic acid of our choice. My teacher warned us about one of the acids (Butyric acid) smelling horribly, so naturally I took that as a personal challenge to use that in my reaction (mistake #1). So I carefully measured out 10ml of the stuff without any gloves (mistake #2) into a measuring cylinder I was holding and as I was finishing pouring the acid a single drop slid down the cylinder and onto my hand. Now I realised that had happened and I washed my hands, thinking that would be enough, and since it was during covid and everyone had masks on, as well as the entire room was smelling like esters, I figured the smell went away. Boy was I wrong. For the following 3 days everything I touched started smelling like vomit. I was like the Midas of vomit and gag reflexes. My phone, my desk, my keyboard, doorhandles, the dog, etc. all smelled like vomit and spread that smell all over my house. I washed my hands for like a solid 30 minutes but to no avail. Even trying to be smart and wash my hands using bicarb soda as a base to try to neutralise the thing didn’t work. Eventually after a day I washed my hands using a concoction of all the household detergents (except for nasty bleach and sodium hydroxide containing ones) as well as acetone. Surprisingly it worked, but then I proceeded to touch my still contaminated phone… I decided to not do that handwash again because it’s probably not very good for my skin so I just accepted smelling like vomit for the next little while. Moral of the story - wear gloves even if the chemicals you are handling aren’t inherently dangerous.
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Is that accurate ?
@@Kualinar It is, I had a nearly identical experience, except I don't even recall spilling anything, just touching the glass bottle.
Mine wasn't as persistent, went away after a few hours and a soda wash. Luckily we had the lab classes at the end of the day, so I could go straight home to wash it away.
My mother was very bleach-happy as a kid, liked to leave it evaporating on the floor. Bare feet smell funny for a while after getting bleached.
2:50 Speaking about rings, and not about chemistry..
I turned on an electromagnet (super beefy one) in our physic lab (written all the place with "no metal, no jewelry" on the cage)
The Professor "who knew better" (apparently not) was 2nd degree burned around his finger because he "couldnt remove" his wedding ring before entering the cage
Trust me, the magnet was turned on for few seconds only but suddenly he found a way to remove his ring in less than 3s ! The thing was glowing hot !
how many Tesla? Sounds like 5+
I just talked with a friend about somehow collecting radon a few hours ago xD
6:52 The story I have is luckily not that bad.
My friend's family lives in a house from the 1930s and all they know is, that there has been a light switch in the kitchen which had radium paint on it. The switch is long gone (I hope), but you can still see where it was, because one of the switches is further away from the wall than the others.
Honestly I really don't want to know if it's still there buried in the wall or not.
Eh nothing new for me, in Switzerland Radon just seeps out of the ground so we have special ventilation systems if levels get critical.
I was employed as an electrical ewngineerr and then 1989 happened, and I needed a job, BAD. I has a minor in chemistry, so went to UTSA as a grad student (for the stipend). My advisor was doing low temperature matrix trapping of metastable species using LN2 in a cold head. He would fill the reservoir from an LS-160 using a steel transfer tube. I came in one morning and found the transfer tube with a football-sized balloon about halfway down the line. Oh Shit! Get behind LS 160 as blast shield and start wrenching the safety plug on the LN2 valve. Finally, it let go and buried itself in the wall 90° to the line between me and the bubble. The bubble collapsed and the cryo line fell apart in two pieces! Biggest Oh Shit! in my life up till then. I had had training so I knew not to attempt to loosen the line connectors themselves - a 10' steel bullwhip is a BAD idea. Thank $DEITY for training! He hasd fillrd the reservoir and closed the valves in both ends with liquid still in the transfer tube. Apparently, HE had not had the cryogen training.
to that roommate story, we used to have a guy in our neighborhood that was realy into old ww2 stuff. and basically, he collected everything from that time, not just uniforms, helmets and that sort of stuff, but also munitions, anything from pistol calibre to bunker removing type munitions, oh and also 13 live single use rocket launchers. and a box of also live grenades. long story short his house became a fireworks festival and couldnt be extinguished for 3 days straight, but nobody was harmed. i too am a collector of militaria, and funnily enough have since the start of my journey also been offered to buy a live rocket launcher (2000€ ukraine special) but rest assured, i am not that willing to tempt fate or the government, or cause yet another militaria related detonation in our neighborhood.
Ah yes, cobalt 60 source.
That thing usually has "DROP AND RUN" molded onto it.