Thanks, I pushed all rendering options to their upper limit and my i5 computer with 16 GB ram, SSD and Graphics card maintained a 25-35 fps framerate. I also setup Julia Photorendering running multithreaded (quality s=5 of 6) in the background which downloads data from Google Maps and creates graphics tiles for FlightGear (ver 2020.4 required) to use in real time based on your location and heading in the simulator. FlightGear ran slowly with Julia at first as it created my immediate surroundings from nothing. But after 10 or 15 minutes circling the airport, it sped up and then it was able to create everything ahead of me wherever I flew even at low altitude F-16 speeds (whatever that is).
Open street maps for the entire world are in the main flightgear scenery since March this year. Looks fantastic with 3d buildings everywhere worldwide, and no need to download each osm pack.
Hey, good video. It helps. If you can upload a video on "how-to" create realistic scene with photorealist satellite mapping, it will be very helpful. You're a good explainer. Regards
Honestly speaking Flight Gear is the best you will get for free. XP11 is $60, and like 60GB. Fsx is $24.99. FG is free and possibly the best free flight simulator for PC
it is very sad to see that most people are more concerned with the graphics than with the gameplay, I am from the time of Master System consoles, Mega Drive among others, had great games and yet was 8-bit and people did not complain, now most gamers are more concerned about the graphics, the news generations do not know how to appreciate games or simulators
I have a feeling that non-focus on graphics is more prevalent among the indie gaming scene. Wasn't alive back then, but I've heard that this also happened with the Commodore Amiga; devs focused on pushing gfx and sound and leaving gameplay to rot - leading to games that are completely boring a decade later.
I find that the biggest problem with FlightGear and its perceived quality is its user-created content and other easily replaceable graphics. Orthographic scenery, for example, can really bump the quality, but an update of all other textures would make it really incredible. Then there's the aircraft. Now, I make addon aircraft for X-Plane 11, and I know it's not easy at all, especially if you're a single person. But most of the planes in FlightGear don't have very high quality... The 3D meshes themselves tend to have rather lacking detail at best, and look like they were made over 20 years ago at worst. There's _tons_ of jagged edges, even in simple structures, and the detail is just lacking. Then there's what's on top of the meshes: textures and liveries. Most of these things are extremely low res (relatively) so you end up with blurry details and words (this is not something anyone can pull of and not make look like shit), and I'm pretty sure I've never seen any implementation of PBR (varying degrees of shinyness). It's all matte, and while it certainly isn't as easy to implement as higher resolution textures, it would make a big difference. Finally, there's the ultimate airplane development devil: systems. It's obviously easier to make non-glass cockpits, but people still plaster flat panel textures on a simple model. It is way harder to make the visual assets and program them to look more like their real counterparts, but what most aircraft with glass cockpits have now just looks lazy (this is, again, because it's very time consuming and demands a lot of skill and experience). To conclude, I don't want to discredit the difficulty in making really good airplanes and the enormous effort that has gone into making the existing aircraft. It's super time consuming, and asking for money for such efforts would not be received well, so they always go unrewarded except for people's well-meant but immaterial appreciation. But most suffer from an insane lack of detail and they feel half-assed. Now, there _are_ exceptions to this. The 777 is pretty darned good. The best aircraft I've seen yet is the F-16. It is breathtakingly good. I'm sure there are other great exceptions, but, again, most aircraft fall very short of what I'm sure FlightGear is, and will be, capable of.
I agree. There's the occasional gem and many more uncompleted planes. Especially kind of problematic when people pick a random orbx aircraft and compare it with the equivalent (undeveloped) FG aircraft.
@@ddk I'm seriously contemplating learning how systems and flight model are programmed in FlightGear. I do flight modeling in my team (here's a forum post of one of our WIP aircraft: forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/203548-quality-flight-simulations-767-freeware/&page=4). I just might make a FlightGear port for shits and giggles, it'll be interesting if nothing else.
The funny thing is that in the thumbnail, it looks like you changed it from low-res detail-less to high-res noisy. The water could use significant improvement that is not in the stock game.
Could you please do a tutorial on how to configure joysticks with flight gear? Moving my joystick by a cm will send a cessna 172 into a stall. Controls are way to sensitive :/
great video! my pc doesnt run X-Plane 11 super well so i installed flightgear, thought the graphics were trash then laughed at the intro of your video and got it realistic! tysm and i will sub!
Hey! Could you help me? Idk do you are flying on VATSIM in Flightgear, but could you make tutorial how to fly on VATSIM in Flightgear? Thank you very much and nice video! P. S Are you on Flightgear discord?
VATSIM from FlightGear is possible, but I haven't tried it yet :( I am on the FG Discord, however I am not checking mentions and DMs there because it's filled with - well - discord. Best way to contact me is here and Masto.
@@ddk Thank you very much for watching the tutorial, but the problem is that the preference. XML file mentioned is no longer available after the 2017 version, but for other reasons I can only use the 2017 version, so I wonder if you have any other options?
Hi My macbook has a Intel hd 4000 graphics card ... the Windows laptop i am Interested in has a Intel hd graphics 520... the issue is ... On my macbook i have no shaders available in the graphics tab and not hing else with graphics. .. Do you know if the Intel hd graphics card 520 is better than the 4000. I want the shaders settings which i Do Not have with the 4000 on my macbook Which graphics card Do you use on this video?
I looked it up and, yup, the 520 is better than the 4000. You might also want to look into other factors too, especially single-core CPU speed (abnormally important for FlightGear). The graphics card used on this video _is_ Intel HD graphics, but I think it's a top-of-the-line 2018 model in a business laptop. Yet unbeaten power, that one had.
The shader options are never hidden; they are shown even for crappy graphics cards! It might be a slider for you instead of the button like in the video though.
the gaming laptop i had crashed... on my old macbook pro with i5 with 2,5 ghz 16gb ram and intel hd4000 flightgear was running good ... on my windowslaptop with i5 wit2,4 ghz 8 gb ram and intel hd 520 the game hangs if i switch view. could this be because of the half ram... 8 gb instead of 16gb... i do not think it is the 0,1 ghz of the i5 where can i find the height of the destination airport?
Yeah, if there are a lot of other stuff running (web browsers, "fast start" systems...), 8GB might be a bit tight for larger view distances. I have played FlightGear on 8GB of RAM before, but that is with a bit of care given to memory usage. About finding the height of the destination airport, I'm not sure, actually! It's usually listed on the charts, but the elevation in FlightGear can be different due to limited data.
@@ddk my macbook had the same specs but ram was 16gb and my wioindows has only 8gb ... do you think that is the reason of the problems? i need the height of the destination for the decent. for the auto pilot
my hp elitebook G3 with intel hd 520 tells me something about harddisk problems ... but still runs... i ordered Elitebook G4 with intel hd 620 32gb ram ... not much better than the old one but i think it does not have hanging problems. my 8gb ram windowslaptop works good wit farming simulator 22 i think it think the new one will work well with flight gear. i wanna have photo sceenery and probably ALS
For some reason, atmospheric light scattering breaks when it's night time it looks ... well very low quality. Can you help? @ddk Also when I try to use the a320 on max ALS settings, the text disappears and knobs and switches too dissapear
i got a used laptop but i7 16gb ram and gtx1050ti.... can i play flightgear on higher graphics settings? i know i could play msfs with good graphics but first i wanna fly in flightgear with better graphics.
Easiest method is to turn on scenery download and start the sim. Alternatively, search for a scenery pack, unzip it anywhere you want (I recommend somewhere outside your user folder, like D:\fg\), then add it in the add-ons tab. Ask in the Discord server if you run into problems.
It will work, but expect lower frame rates. Make sure to close as many programs as possible (especially browsers) before starting FlightGear. Also try higher settings just in case!
@@ddk Sadly I dont think this makes a diffrence as im running an RX 580 and the game runs like trash the UI keeps on bugging and the performance is trash, where I get 80-90 fps on most AAA games I only get 8 in FG
![Evolution of Microsoft Flight Simulator (NEW) [1982-2023]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/G1LT4Zlz0Mk/mqdefault.jpg)
Finally someone who made a legit review of FlightGear and its Shader options
Thanks, I pushed all rendering options to their upper limit and my i5 computer with 16 GB ram, SSD and Graphics card maintained a 25-35 fps framerate. I also setup Julia Photorendering running multithreaded (quality s=5 of 6) in the background which downloads data from Google Maps and creates graphics tiles for FlightGear (ver 2020.4 required) to use in real time based on your location and heading in the simulator. FlightGear ran slowly with Julia at first as it created my immediate surroundings from nothing. But after 10 or 15 minutes circling the airport, it sped up and then it was able to create everything ahead of me wherever I flew even at low altitude F-16 speeds (whatever that is).
Glad to be of help!
wait what, is there a tutorial for that ?
i finally Found a channel which helps me For FLIGHtGear...!!!yaaaayyyyy
Same!!!😄😃😀
Glad to be of help!
@@ddk hi bro.
Excuse me I didn't understand well how did you do to set rain outside. I need help please
Open street maps for the entire world are in the main flightgear scenery since March this year. Looks fantastic with 3d buildings everywhere worldwide, and no need to download each osm pack.
idk why you dont have many subs, your video is well edited, interesting and helpful (also a little funny)!
FlightGear is a rather niche topic, so not a lot of people look for it. It's nice to hear that my brand of humor is actually funny though!
Hey, good video. It helps. If you can upload a video on "how-to" create realistic scene with photorealist satellite mapping, it will be very helpful. You're a good explainer.
Regards
Got to admit, it's actually starting to look quite good visually, still many years behind microsoft and x plane though
I think it's pretty equal to XP10. We really need some scenery pack artists, esp with the (really heavy) MSFS2020...
Honestly speaking Flight Gear is the best you will get for free. XP11 is $60, and like 60GB. Fsx is $24.99. FG is free and possibly the best free flight simulator for PC
@@thatmukundbalaji True
Thank you,we need more input on Flightgear.
And we need more texture artists and maybe a reimp!
(I'm busy with RL right now.)
Nice. Very helpful video, thanks. Just from my initial tweaks from your suggestions, it's like a different sim almost.
Cheers
Glad it helped! The defaults really aren't useful in competing against graphics-focused flight sims.
it is very sad to see that most people are more concerned with the graphics than with the gameplay, I am from the time of Master System consoles, Mega Drive among others, had great games and yet was 8-bit and people did not complain, now most gamers are more concerned about the graphics, the news generations do not know how to appreciate games or simulators
I have a feeling that non-focus on graphics is more prevalent among the indie gaming scene.
Wasn't alive back then, but I've heard that this also happened with the Commodore Amiga; devs focused on pushing gfx and sound and leaving gameplay to rot - leading to games that are completely boring a decade later.
0:37 the way you talk here is funny 🤣🤣
I guess that's why I failed acting class XD
Great job with your channel man!!!!! Love to see you grow.
Thanks a lot!
the intro was beautiful
Thank you! I had a lot of fun with it!
I find that the biggest problem with FlightGear and its perceived quality is its user-created content and other easily replaceable graphics. Orthographic scenery, for example, can really bump the quality, but an update of all other textures would make it really incredible.
Then there's the aircraft. Now, I make addon aircraft for X-Plane 11, and I know it's not easy at all, especially if you're a single person. But most of the planes in FlightGear don't have very high quality... The 3D meshes themselves tend to have rather lacking detail at best, and look like they were made over 20 years ago at worst. There's _tons_ of jagged edges, even in simple structures, and the detail is just lacking.
Then there's what's on top of the meshes: textures and liveries. Most of these things are extremely low res (relatively) so you end up with blurry details and words (this is not something anyone can pull of and not make look like shit), and I'm pretty sure I've never seen any implementation of PBR (varying degrees of shinyness). It's all matte, and while it certainly isn't as easy to implement as higher resolution textures, it would make a big difference.
Finally, there's the ultimate airplane development devil: systems. It's obviously easier to make non-glass cockpits, but people still plaster flat panel textures on a simple model. It is way harder to make the visual assets and program them to look more like their real counterparts, but what most aircraft with glass cockpits have now just looks lazy (this is, again, because it's very time consuming and demands a lot of skill and experience).
To conclude, I don't want to discredit the difficulty in making really good airplanes and the enormous effort that has gone into making the existing aircraft. It's super time consuming, and asking for money for such efforts would not be received well, so they always go unrewarded except for people's well-meant but immaterial appreciation. But most suffer from an insane lack of detail and they feel half-assed.
Now, there _are_ exceptions to this. The 777 is pretty darned good. The best aircraft I've seen yet is the F-16. It is breathtakingly good. I'm sure there are other great exceptions, but, again, most aircraft fall very short of what I'm sure FlightGear is, and will be, capable of.
I agree. There's the occasional gem and many more uncompleted planes. Especially kind of problematic when people pick a random orbx aircraft and compare it with the equivalent (undeveloped) FG aircraft.
@@ddk I'm seriously contemplating learning how systems and flight model are programmed in FlightGear. I do flight modeling in my team (here's a forum post of one of our WIP aircraft: forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/203548-quality-flight-simulations-767-freeware/&page=4). I just might make a FlightGear port for shits and giggles, it'll be interesting if nothing else.
The funny thing is that in the thumbnail, it looks like you changed it from low-res detail-less to high-res noisy. The water could use significant improvement that is not in the stock game.
There's a lot to be improved about the materialwork of FG, yes. In this clip, for example, open ocean is rendered as a muddy lake...
I will try downloading flightgear
Have fun!
Basically it was made in 1997
Yeah, it's designed way before these days.
Yes, X-Plane was made in 1995
That's when it's very first release came out.
With ALS the sky looks fucked up, it looks like it's night/sunset on a bright sunny day
As you can see, that's not the case on my machine 🤔; could you bring this up in the Discord or the Forum? This might be a known issue on M1 Macs
@@ddk Sure can you send me the link?
@@ddk Oh and another problem: With ALS on, nightime looks like dusk or dawn even if it's supposed to be pitch black dark
This guy needs an acting Oscar award
Really proud of the intro!
You should make a video about how to update Flight Gear
Helpful, and entertaining, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Dordek kiddy, how do you setup your joystick for Flight Gear? I really need help. Thank you.
File -> Joystick options (not sure of the exact wording)
1:53 Water effect is more beautiful than X Plane 11
There are some things we could improve still (waves and shorelines especially)!
When he defines your pc as a potato... 1:32
It's definitely a potato compared to the one I'm on now 🙃
@@ddk I have the one with the AMD gpu
Could you please do a tutorial on how to configure joysticks with flight gear? Moving my joystick by a cm will send a cessna 172 into a stall. Controls are way to sensitive :/
Which stick is this?
Changing the sensitivity will involve changing XML files, so it'll be a lot more harder to the layman than usual DDK tutorials...
Meanwhile, ask the forum!
-> forum.flightgear.org
great video! my pc doesnt run X-Plane 11 super well so i installed flightgear, thought the graphics were trash then laughed at the intro of your video and got it realistic! tysm and i will sub!
Haha yeah that intro was a fun experiment! I'm not sure if it paid off though!
@@ddk :)
Might try this game....
Go for it!
I have a really old PC and flightgear still works good
The craftsmanship is quite magnificent.
Hey! Could you help me? Idk do you are flying on VATSIM in Flightgear, but could you make tutorial how to fly on VATSIM in Flightgear? Thank you very much and nice video!
P. S Are you on Flightgear discord?
VATSIM from FlightGear is possible, but I haven't tried it yet :(
I am on the FG Discord, however I am not checking mentions and DMs there because it's filled with - well - discord. Best way to contact me is here and Masto.
@@ddk k
Nice video
Do you know how to realize multi screen display, that is, to display different angles of an airplane with multiple screens。TY
It's quite complicated and I haven't tried it; wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Configure_camera_view_windows
@@ddk Thank you very much for watching the tutorial, but the problem is that the preference. XML file mentioned is no longer available after the 2017 version, but for other reasons I can only use the 2017 version, so I wonder if you have any other options?
Hi
My macbook has a Intel hd 4000 graphics card ... the Windows laptop i am Interested in has a Intel hd graphics 520... the issue is ... On my macbook i have no shaders available in the graphics tab and not hing else with graphics. .. Do you know if the Intel hd graphics card 520 is better than the 4000. I want the shaders settings which i Do Not have with the 4000 on my macbook
Which graphics card Do you use on this video?
I looked it up and, yup, the 520 is better than the 4000. You might also want to look into other factors too, especially single-core CPU speed (abnormally important for FlightGear).
The graphics card used on this video _is_ Intel HD graphics, but I think it's a top-of-the-line 2018 model in a business laptop. Yet unbeaten power, that one had.
I think it will work well with my GTX 1660, but I normally use xplane 11
Go for it! XP11 probably corresponds with fairly high settings for FG.
Get this video on top result when people search flight gear
I can't. Our lord The Algorithm will have to bless me.
Looks like it's pretty close though! 😄
Are u from thailand? I live in Bangkok
Yup!
I have a RTX graphics card and I have no shader options. Any ideas to fix/bypass this?
The shader options are never hidden; they are shown even for crappy graphics cards! It might be a slider for you instead of the button like in the video though.
@@ddk I cant get it to look like your computer.
this guy is fire
😃
Excellent video, many thanks! How do I contact you?
Thanks!
I don't tend to answer questions from the wrong platform, so how about right here? Other than that, I have a Masto/Fedi account.
Turned from bad to pretty! thanks alot
yw!
for some reason whenever i load up fg, everything is water anyhelp?
In settings put download scenery Automatically
Here's a video in case you couldn't find it: ua-cam.com/video/GbiHMxXr_Mk/v-deo.html
that means you dont have any scenery of that area
Try re-installing your scenery by downloading from FlightGear.org
Ty so much
The flightgear main system set the perfect graphics for a pc so...
?
the gaming laptop i had crashed... on my old macbook pro with i5 with 2,5 ghz 16gb ram and intel hd4000 flightgear was running good ... on my windowslaptop with i5 wit2,4 ghz 8 gb ram and intel hd 520 the game hangs if i switch view. could this be because of the half ram... 8 gb instead of 16gb... i do not think it is the 0,1 ghz of the i5
where can i find the height of the destination airport?
Yeah, if there are a lot of other stuff running (web browsers, "fast start" systems...), 8GB might be a bit tight for larger view distances. I have played FlightGear on 8GB of RAM before, but that is with a bit of care given to memory usage.
About finding the height of the destination airport, I'm not sure, actually! It's usually listed on the charts, but the elevation in FlightGear can be different due to limited data.
@@ddk my macbook had the same specs but ram was 16gb and my wioindows has only 8gb ... do you think that is the reason of the problems? i need the height of the destination for the decent. for the auto pilot
this was very fun and good :)
Oh hi Vlad! Glad to see you here!
my hp elitebook G3 with intel hd 520 tells me something about harddisk problems ... but still runs...
i ordered Elitebook G4 with intel hd 620 32gb ram ... not much better than the old one but i think it does not have hanging problems.
my 8gb ram windowslaptop works good wit farming simulator 22 i think it think the new one will work well with flight gear.
i wanna have photo sceenery and probably ALS
Hopefully!
For some reason, atmospheric light scattering breaks when it's night time it looks ... well very low quality. Can you help? @ddk Also when I try to use the a320 on max ALS settings, the text disappears and knobs and switches too dissapear
This is unfortunately a known issue with ARM (M1+) Macs 😔
What is the recommended graphic card for Flightgear ?
Anything from Nvidia. AMD cards have been known to cause issues.
@@ddk i have intel pentium card it sucks
Pentium? I didn't know those are still in use these days.
@@ddk 55555 yeah
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I keep getting stutters in flightgear, although the CPU and GPU is still at like 70%
Loading stutters, perhaps.
I just got into flight sims, but my pc isn’t the greatest. Will my i5 3470 and rx 580 work alright?
Sounds good to me.
i got a used laptop but i7 16gb ram and gtx1050ti.... can i play flightgear on higher graphics settings? i know i could play msfs with good graphics but first i wanna fly in flightgear with better graphics.
Hey, that's very close to my computer! You can definitely use very high graphics settings at 1080p@30fps in the vast majority of areas.
@@ddk this sounds really good!!!!!
how do i know if i have graphics settings at 30 FPS?
@@benbua3462 the frame rate display can be toggled on under View → View options → Show frame rate
Can you explain me how to get scenery and airports
Easiest method is to turn on scenery download and start the sim. Alternatively, search for a scenery pack, unzip it anywhere you want (I recommend somewhere outside your user folder, like D:\fg\), then add it in the add-ons tab.
Ask in the Discord server if you run into problems.
Good Video! I think you are the only one(but it's good! :) ) who is using linux! ;)
True 😄
Very nice
Ummmm the first time i launched my flight gear it has severe fps loss
Intel core i3 8gb ram 7.87 left
7.87GB RAM left sounds... weird. FG takes up gigs on my machine.
@@ddk umm its my 1st time
@@ddk even on main menu
Your PC specs??
btw i use arch
Does the AUR have a Compositer build of FlightGear? It's, like, a single changed compile flag or something like that.
@@ddk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
* shrugs back *
Tysm!
I can’t turn als on :(
...how? why?
500 subscribers
Well that is quick! 😄
Ram4 it works Ultra low graphics?
It will work, but expect lower frame rates. Make sure to close as many programs as possible (especially browsers) before starting FlightGear.
Also try higher settings just in case!
@@ddk Thank
how to make helicopter view?
V key.
@@ddk thanks
Shaders 4 looks better than Shaders 5, imo.
I like the blue water better too, in fact. It looks a bit weird from some angles though.
@@ddk yeah, in Shaders 5 it looks like the contrast was toggled all the way up. It hurts the retinas.
flight gear + RTX Graphics
*Thinking*
+ Gaming industry texture artists
**thinks harder**
Does flight gear have global?
Yes, FlightGear's scenery covers the whole world, some places better than others.
I subscribed with my second account.
🥰
thank
does not lag on Mac
Hiuh?
After 3 years, it's lagging on a medium spec pc??? My gpu can handle Microsoft flight simulator 20 and can't handle this lmao
Yep, it is. Utterly terrible multicore utilization go brrr
Older graphic cards my have a prob. Looks at graphics card i dont care i got a 1050ti
🤔
M8 a 1050TI was a low end GPU when it came out and the age didnt make it any better
My computer doesn't even have a dedicated graphics card so
@@jackeddj8767 its a graphica card
@@ddk Sadly I dont think this makes a diffrence as im running an RX 580 and the game runs like trash the UI keeps on bugging and the performance is trash, where I get 80-90 fps on most AAA games I only get 8 in FG
some infinite flight graphics lol
patches welcome
Loooooooool
?
@@ddk Yeah I am confused here too.
It still looks crap
Yeah, MS surprised everyone this E3! We also meed better artists.
This is cringy to me, not kidding
I'm bad at scripts. The latter part is short enough to make ME cringe too!
thx for reminding me to redo the script flow for future videos!
eso parece roblox
Maybe 🙂
Work on your English bud one way of doing it is watching others who usually speak English
Agreed!
Flightgear are a very Bad game 😭👎🤮
Graphics and technical debt wise, indeed