U def don't know the kpop industry enough if u say that ..... Most of the companies hire anyone who has good visuals as trainees and debut them as kpop idols even though there are more talented trainees . Don't be blind Infront of the harsh diets , camera filters and endless skincare and makeup that the companies make the idols do
@xoxo r u dumb? How is this comment proving their point?? I wish you guys would stop acting dumb and just admit it. Unless your super thin, you’re 100% going to receive hate for being a bigger kpop idol, this comment was just highlighting that. you can’t say “proof that you don’t have to be thin to be a kpop idol” and then show that the idols that aren’t thin do in fact get tons of hate
@@YoonglesBoonglesmylove because kpop has made ppl feeling you need to look anorexic like Wonyoung to be seen as pretty, so anything that is normal weight by western sandards is obese in korean standards.
They aren't thin they are healthy and normal. Being healthy and having average weight is great and it doesn't mean they are fat. Stop trying to make it seem like being anything other than thin is wrong.
Exactly ,one of member of snsd was harshly criticized when she put on weight just like CL when she was on 2ne1 ...besides these girls are exceptions ,not the rule.
Tbh , these idols shown are pretty lean too . They are not thin as in kbs but definitely thin in other beauty standards . Edit : y'all fighting in the comments saying they are thick , or not thin . And some even likes to assume that I think being called fat is bad . Nah , they ARE thin ..... Thin as in a normal human's weight , thin and healthy ... Just like being fat and healthy . Most of the other kpop idols , who y'all calls thin are mostly very underweight .
@@lea5308 no she doesn’t you can’t see her muscle it’s covered by fat. I’m not saying she is fat tho but she’s not skinny either just a normal body with a little chub and it’s normal for someone her age. I don’t get the issue
Alternate title: You don’t have to be EXTREMELY underweight to be considered a K-pop idol. I didn’t say that ALL of the female K-Pop idols are underweight. I said that they SHOULDN’T be extremely underweight
Mamamoo was forced to starve when they debuted. Hwasa started gaining weight once they became successful. Nancy was thinner during her debut and CL was also mostly thin while still with YG. Jiwoo only gained weight shortly before her debut and was skinny during her pre debut showcase. She got a lot of hate for it and is now the least popular member. None of them are actually overweight and are probably between a size 36 to 38. So if you want to become an idol it is still required to be thin
But it shouldn't matter though. It's too harsh and it's really harsh to the point where some kpop idols cry on stage and faint that isn't good. The kpop beauty standards are way to harsh they need it to be equal for all of them
Shindong is the only idol that fits the category especially during his early days in Super Junior. Other than that, all the idols in this video ARE thin. They're just not stick thin
Not thin, but a healthy weight with some curves. Btw, I have diagnosed anorexia. I know what's thin, skinny and underweight. If this is thin to you, I suggest you start recognising healthy eating habits around you. If the people around you are bigger than these idols, it's a proplem.
Yeah!! They r all cute... I am happy to see that weight doesn't come in the way of showing our talent. 🥰 Edit: i am criticising the Korean standards, i am not interpreting the creator in any bad way. I changed the comment, cause the title of the video also changed. 😅 Btw, my nickname is also potato bag 😂
This is literally just your assumption. Being thin doesn't equal to being healthy and fit, so the creator said that idols on this video are having healthy and fit body. If you're saying that not thin = fat, then that's your problem.
Lmao why are people saying they're healthy??? No one knows if they're healthy or not, just because they have some body fat doesnt make them healthy, or because they're not extremely thin also doesnt make them healthy. If you find a person on the street who isnt so skinny, you're not gonna say "Oh, that person is so healthy". But with kpop you do say that?? Maybe they're starving and just because they arent SO thin people think they're healthy.
@@creativeeeee We are saying there healthy because they don’t look like they diet until they pass out. They still dance every day and probably eat healthy food and there not extremely under weight. That’s why we say there healthy.
Tbh these idols are all thin. The only difference is they aren’t extremely thin, mostly around the thighs. But I think they look perfectly healthy and pretty, people are just too harsh on them
Ngl I would literally jump off a bridge if I was an idol that not only gets body shamed for being a healthy weight compared to my members but also being used as peoples “cute plus sized idols 😊” and these backhanded compliments. How about we just stop talking about idols weight regardless.
The person who made the video isn't calling them fat, they are expressing that they don't fit into the thin beauty standards in Korea. I think by them saying not thin is, its saying they arent the typical body types people desire for idols. The media in Korea has called them fat countless of times, even if just one body part is out of proportion. Though really all it is is they aren't thin or slim, the video uploader isnt shaming anyone.
I disagree. The caption is literally "prove: you don't need to be thin..." Being thin is the opposite of being overweight, so it implies that the shown artists are actually plus sized💀 There's no single mention of korean beauty standards. If the author of the video had meant it, they should've specified it more.
@@ktosniemiy612 Bruh what kind of logic is that? If I say you are not a bad guy does it really mean you are a good guy(if this thing was not made as a thumbrule in English grammar)?
@@ktosniemiy612 what are you talking about??? the title says that people don't need to be *too* thin (basically underweight,unless they were born that way)to be an idol.nobody said these idols were plus sized and they are far from that anyways, They are just an example of idols that don't look painfully skinny (like wonyoung or lisa ) and are still pretty.
@@lanenitamorenita First, the word "too" was added after I had already commented as I recall. My point is still valid. Second, english is not my first language, in my native language we use "author" as a synonym for creator in this context. I didn't know it was incorrect. It's still a minor mistake though, don't need to point it out.
CL has proven herself during 2NE1 days~ I've never seen nettizens criticize an article so fast when the news outlet posted an article about her body when she first came back from US. Like it's Queen CL! Whatever changes her body goes through, people won't ever forget the fire inside her! She's legendary~
I'm not crying( happy crying) because Jiwoo looks the same as me!( i mean legs and body) Before i was crying bcz i know that i will never be or be like some kpop idol, and after watching this im so happy!
But Jiwoo was bullied by kpop fans especially Koreans for having ‘big thighs’. It’s so annoying when she’s clearly healthy but there will always be those people who love hating on people
Guys…the creator is not saying the idols are “fat” or body shaming them. The creator is saying that just because the idol is not paper thin, does not mean they can’t be an idol. It’s not to say that they are fat, but saying in the midst of them not fitting the “standards” of being super skinny, they still are successful because of their talent.
Honestly, Hwasa is still relatively thin. By BMI standards, shes underweight like most idols. She has a small waist and thin arms too. It's just her thighs that are on the thicker side.
The sad thing is you don't have to be thin to be an idol for the industry. You have to be skinny for the fans. I don't think many labels would have a problem with heavier idols, but the fandom is just very quick to point stuff like that out. This video is proof, because these idols are still very skinny, they just have a different body type and because of that count as 'heavier' idols (hwasa and cl are great examples. They both have a pretty wide body structure, wide hips etc. They're skinny, but they look out of the norm)
To the people who say "if they are fat, what am I ?" : the creator didn't say those idols are fat,he just said they have a healty body and they are not SkInNy. There is something beetween fat and skinny.
This is literally just your assumption. Being thin doesn't equal to being healthy and fit, so the creator said that idols on this video are having healthy and fit body. If you're saying that not thin = fat, then that's your problem.
The person making the video isnt calling them fat in any way possible, its because im guessing the hate they got because of being “fat”, but still they slay everyday and icl hwasa and cl have my dream body type!
I don’t think this is body shaming, the creator is trying to prove that just because some is not the “standard” of being super skinny, doesn’t mean they can’t be an idol
@@rozowewino yes she/he didn't say they were fat but the fact that she/he but idols in there "prove that u don't need to be thin to be an idol" *puts idol*
Guys I think the point they were trying to make is that there are many popular idols that dont have the 'ideal' korean idol body type. The message could be presented better but thats what I got from it x
How is this body shaming? The creator is trying to prove that being paper thin is not everything. She’s not calling these idols fat, she’s just saying they aren’t the “standard” of being super skinny.
@@NicoleSueko Using them as examples in this video is like implying that they would be considered anything but thin. You don’t need to be “super skinny” or “paper thin” to be considered thin.
@@irall5833 True, however, when you look at the Kpop industry today you see that the definition of being “thin” has been warped significantly. Example: Liz from IVE has recently gotten backlash for gaining some weight, even if she is still thin. This means that many people perceive idols as not thin just because they aren’t paper thin, because that has become normal and the standard in this industry. When I wrote the comment, I was implying the warped definition of being thin that many people go by today, and from what I understood, the creator was doing the same thing.
@@irall5833 it isn’t body shaming at all, it’s not like they are insulting them due to their body, they’re just stating the obvious, they’re obviously not thin and that’s perfectly fine
There's a lot of members from PRISTIN too, they are talented and does well on the team performance so it does not matter. Unfortunately they disbanded early. They were supposed to be my first debut Stan GG...
@@sailormagic13 not just Kyla, there are members who are not thin and they were called fat by Knetz though theirs were like... Normal and fit with their heights. Knetz and the management look at their weight more than their health, so even tall members should still look thin when with the thinner or smaller members...
@@pinkflower2518 this is so backhanded video, can't you see? But I see you totally agree with it so idk what tell you. Also jeongeon is seriously healthy weight, you people's concept of fat is messed up. I swear stop putting her name into this
I was expecthing Swan (my bias from Purple Kiss) or something like that, not idols that can still be considered slim or thin... Actuallly, the fact that you think that some of them are not thin it's just... WOW.
This is the comment I was looking for. Swan is probably the only idol who's weight is handled in an age-appropriate way (no 15 year old should be focused on forcing their weight down when they're clearly healthy). This video just reenforces the industry standards, but the creator was definitely set up for failure. Swan is the only idol in the industry who is both successful enough to be recognizable and not conventionally "skinny."
are you their doctor? what makes you think they are “healthy”? while being underweight like being obese is a health risk health has nothing to do with weight, like you can still be a healthy weight but still have health problems making you unhealthy 💀 if you wanna skinny shame wonyoung just say that
yes u dont have to be thin but u have to have a strong mental health to not let the hate comments or hate in general get you which is pretty hard in an industry like this
I mean did you forget the hate they got for it though .... It might not be necessary for them to be underweight to become singers and dancers but it is necessary for their mental health from toxic people ... You either choose your physical health or mental health
Ok in my honest opinion all those idols look pretty skinny to me it’s really awful how they want idols to completely starve themselves just to look thinner 😓
for an nmixx photoshoot, there was this huge news where they photoshopped jiwoos thighs to make them very skinny and there was a massive difference from the before and after :(
For people in the comments - they are not thin by Korean standards. However, the author forgot to mention another very important thing - all of them need to have a thick skin. The body shaming they have gone though is insane. Actually, artists in general need tough skin to deal with constant criticism that isn't even constructive.
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Guys I just want to say....what really matter is talent.....
Don't misunderstood it...please......
Honestly ppl be twisting your words
its so backhanded???
Then you should said "talent is more important than visual" and not put kpop idol that got body shamed in the past
U def don't know the kpop industry enough if u say that ..... Most of the companies hire anyone who has good visuals as trainees and debut them as kpop idols even though there are more talented trainees . Don't be blind Infront of the harsh diets , camera filters and endless skincare and makeup that the companies make the idols do
*misunderstand
"You dont need to be thin ....." *puts jiwoo who got death threats for having "big" thighs*
yeah
@xoxo r u dumb? How is this comment proving their point?? I wish you guys would stop acting dumb and just admit it. Unless your super thin, you’re 100% going to receive hate for being a bigger kpop idol, this comment was just highlighting that. you can’t say “proof that you don’t have to be thin to be a kpop idol” and then show that the idols that aren’t thin do in fact get tons of hate
@xoxo not to say that they deserve hate, of course they don’t it’s totally wrong.
What…. Why would people send threats because someone has a healthy looking body
@@YoonglesBoonglesmylove because kpop has made ppl feeling you need to look anorexic like Wonyoung to be seen as pretty, so anything that is normal weight by western sandards is obese in korean standards.
All of these idols are thin, they’re just not thin by kpop standards which usually means looking like a stick.
true
They aren't thin they are healthy and normal. Being healthy and having average weight is great and it doesn't mean they are fat. Stop trying to make it seem like being anything other than thin is wrong.
they are not thin. im slimmer than the idols in the video and im not thin either
they are not, that does not mean they are fat though
Exactly ,one of member of snsd was harshly criticized when she put on weight just like CL when she was on 2ne1 ...besides these girls are exceptions ,not the rule.
“see guys, you don’t have to be skinny” shows idols that are of regular weight💀
don't misunderstand. they're saying that the only thing that matters is talent, not weight.
Skinny = underweight & average = normal weight.
Yeah..?
@@luckypeonies3665 skinny does not always = underweight but for idols that's what they think
@@tired7896 Skinny literally means below/thin tho.
"You dont have to be thin to be an idol" proceeds to show thin idols
Yep they are thin but just curvy
Did you even read the caption? It says you don’t have to be “ too thin “
they’re not thin, theyre just at an average weight and size
this is average weight lmao. not thin
@@lyhfml5582 they are thin
Correction**: Pov: You don't need to be underweight to be a KPOP idol...
Finally
Tbh , these idols shown are pretty lean too . They are not thin as in kbs but definitely thin in other beauty standards .
Edit : y'all fighting in the comments saying they are thick , or not thin . And some even likes to assume that I think being called fat is bad .
Nah , they ARE thin ..... Thin as in a normal human's weight , thin and healthy ... Just like being fat and healthy . Most of the other kpop idols , who y'all calls thin are mostly very underweight .
I don't think they are thin in any standards. They are healthy
Exactly
i think you dont know what lean means. most of these idols mentioned are chubby
@@Rlrlrl1962they’re literally not?? Jiwoo is thin for example, she just has muscular legs.
@@lea5308 no she doesn’t you can’t see her muscle it’s covered by fat. I’m not saying she is fat tho but she’s not skinny either just a normal body with a little chub and it’s normal for someone her age. I don’t get the issue
Alternate title: You don’t have to be EXTREMELY underweight to be considered a K-pop idol.
I didn’t say that ALL of the female K-Pop idols are underweight. I said that they SHOULDN’T be extremely underweight
This
EXACTLY
Most idols aren’t extremely underweight go take a look at twice and blackpink for example
@@desiree7271 the fuck where do u see a person in bp over 49 weight
@@desiree7271 I didn't say that most of them are underweight I said that they SHOULDN'T be.
Mamamoo was forced to starve when they debuted. Hwasa started gaining weight once they became successful. Nancy was thinner during her debut and CL was also mostly thin while still with YG. Jiwoo only gained weight shortly before her debut and was skinny during her pre debut showcase. She got a lot of hate for it and is now the least popular member. None of them are actually overweight and are probably between a size 36 to 38. So if you want to become an idol it is still required to be thin
Hwasa was always thick.
@@lulu_LmWho lied to u
@@hers6694 great response from a 12 yr old fan. She was always thick even by Korean standards.
@@lulu_Lmyeah she's has a more curvy body shape compared to the other idol's and that "doesn't fit the kbs"
tho she's still beautiful.
But it shouldn't matter though. It's too harsh and it's really harsh to the point where some kpop idols cry on stage and faint that isn't good. The kpop beauty standards are way to harsh they need it to be equal for all of them
Shindong is the only idol that fits the category especially during his early days in Super Junior. Other than that, all the idols in this video ARE thin. They're just not stick thin
korean standards say they are obese.
Shindong and Psy. There was also a kpop group called Three Little Piggies i think? Something like that to basically prove you don't have to be thin
@@yugyeomslegs9603 Piggy Dolls. Then they made the girls diet. Then they fired them and replaced them with skinny girls, but kept the name.....
Not thin, but a healthy weight with some curves.
Btw, I have diagnosed anorexia. I know what's thin, skinny and underweight. If this is thin to you, I suggest you start recognising healthy eating habits around you. If the people around you are bigger than these idols, it's a proplem.
@@marialindell9874 you can be bigger than these idols and still be healthy
Jeongyeon, jihyo queens 👑👑
Yeah!! They r all cute...
I am happy to see that weight doesn't come in the way of showing our talent. 🥰
Edit: i am criticising the Korean standards, i am not interpreting the creator in any bad way. I changed the comment, cause the title of the video also changed. 😅
Btw, my nickname is also potato bag 😂
I have the same name
She didn't said they are fat
The creator didn't say they are fat, he said they wasn't thin, wich means they have a HEALTHY body and are not SkInNy
Yup we a sack of potatoes
@@Carnetdevacances Skinny doesn't mean unhealthy tho wtf
This video just literally indirectly called them fat💀
They said that they are not thin and not being thin doesnt equal to fat bruh
This is literally just your assumption. Being thin doesn't equal to being healthy and fit, so the creator said that idols on this video are having healthy and fit body. If you're saying that not thin = fat, then that's your problem.
that's wut I thought
which dictionary you got that from?
ikrr...like u think they r fat that's why ur giving example to us
They're just saying u don't have to be extremely thin and unhealthy to be an idol that u can have a healthy body
There’s no such thing as “normal sized” since everyone is genetically a different size.
@@StanChunghaOrGoHome I mean like average weight
Lmao why are people saying they're healthy??? No one knows if they're healthy or not, just because they have some body fat doesnt make them healthy, or because they're not extremely thin also doesnt make them healthy. If you find a person on the street who isnt so skinny, you're not gonna say "Oh, that person is so healthy". But with kpop you do say that?? Maybe they're starving and just because they arent SO thin people think they're healthy.
@@creativeeeee We are saying there healthy because they don’t look like they diet until they pass out. They still dance every day and probably eat healthy food and there not extremely under weight. That’s why we say there healthy.
But to debut for some companies like yg entertainment you have to follow the weight limit they have
Tbh these idols are all thin. The only difference is they aren’t extremely thin, mostly around the thighs. But I think they look perfectly healthy and pretty, people are just too harsh on them
They not thin they have average bodies!!
And they all look absolutely gorgeous🤩
Ngl I would literally jump off a bridge if I was an idol that not only gets body shamed for being a healthy weight compared to my members but also being used as peoples “cute plus sized idols 😊” and these backhanded compliments. How about we just stop talking about idols weight regardless.
I Stan u.
You dropped this 👑
no bc for realllll
no literally
Honestly, preach.
You guys they meant "you don't need to be UNDERWEIGHT to be a kpop idol" all idols here are healthy
Shindong is the best example, I was waiting for him.
They actually look good
The person who made the video isn't calling them fat, they are expressing that they don't fit into the thin beauty standards in Korea. I think by them saying not thin is, its saying they arent the typical body types people desire for idols. The media in Korea has called them fat countless of times, even if just one body part is out of proportion. Though really all it is is they aren't thin or slim, the video uploader isnt shaming anyone.
you'r perfectly right
💜💜
I disagree. The caption is literally "prove: you don't need to be thin..."
Being thin is the opposite of being overweight, so it implies that the shown artists are actually plus sized💀
There's no single mention of korean beauty standards. If the author of the video had meant it, they should've specified it more.
@@ktosniemiy612 Bruh what kind of logic is that?
If I say you are not a bad guy does it really mean you are a good guy(if this thing was not made as a thumbrule in English grammar)?
@@ktosniemiy612 what are you talking about??? the title says that people don't need to be *too* thin (basically underweight,unless they were born that way)to be an idol.nobody said these idols were plus sized and they are far from that anyways, They are just an example of idols that don't look painfully skinny (like wonyoung or lisa ) and are still pretty.
@@lanenitamorenita First, the word "too" was added after I had already commented as I recall. My point is still valid. Second, english is not my first language, in my native language we use "author" as a synonym for creator in this context. I didn't know it was incorrect. It's still a minor mistake though, don't need to point it out.
Jeongyeong too she has alot of talent from singing to dancing no matter her visuals she's really pretty
JEONGPIG LOLLLLL
@@niceto3547 you didn’t eat bookie..now go to bed😘
She was skinny when she debuted but gain weight during her depression so it wouldn’t really count
She doesn’t count because she was skinny when she debuted and only gained wait due to medications she was taking
@@mina9866 what happened to her?
Swan Purple Kiss Chaein Purple Kiss, actually lots of Purple Kiss are a normal size, it’s really admirable
I was hoping for Swan
Jiwoo is so good in rap and dance... It's sad, that people see only her weight
All the idols are one of the most hated idols for no reason
I remember Gfriend/Viviz Eunha saying she refuse to diet bcs she just like the way she is.
Proof you don't have to be thin to be an idol: *shows regular sized idols and forgetting about Jeongyun*
And shindong, junseo, wonho, Swan, and possibly many more
@@_xiuxiumin_ omg fr
Who is jeongyun ?
this is so horribly backhanded 😭 its giving youre not fat youre beautiful comments
She didn't say they were fat, she just said they weren't thin which is true.
They look just fine
jiwoo has my heart
CL has proven herself during 2NE1 days~ I've never seen nettizens criticize an article so fast when the news outlet posted an article about her body when she first came back from US. Like it's Queen CL! Whatever changes her body goes through, people won't ever forget the fire inside her! She's legendary~
I'm not crying( happy crying) because Jiwoo looks the same as me!( i mean legs and body) Before i was crying bcz i know that i will never be or be like some kpop idol, and after watching this im so happy!
But Jiwoo was bullied by kpop fans especially Koreans for having ‘big thighs’. It’s so annoying when she’s clearly healthy but there will always be those people who love hating on people
Superjunior shindong is a really good example of talent being more important than looks
but he himself bodyshames female artists 🤬🤬
@@curiositylikeacat8119 oh really ? I have not heard of this or noticed this. regardless he is an example of what I said above
@@curiositylikeacat8119 were? Please explain me!
@@rozu4444 I don't know the video
Maybe he was fat shaming a famous gg
He said" girls should be thin and skinny unlike boys"
@@curiositylikeacat8119 ah I see, don't know if its exactly fatshaming but I understand that its not maybe not so nicely said either
Also Jeongyeon💖
HWASA QUEEN!
I got confused at the video. I was promised overweight people. These are normal women. 🧐🧐😂
Because it's Korea!
Guys…the creator is not saying the idols are “fat” or body shaming them. The creator is saying that just because the idol is not paper thin, does not mean they can’t be an idol. It’s not to say that they are fat, but saying in the midst of them not fitting the “standards” of being super skinny, they still are successful because of their talent.
Hwasa is thin who said she is fat all k-pop idol a thin who ever said fat to idol if I was them I would say I am not you mirror
No one said anyone was fat, you guys just think not being thin = being fat
She isn't thin but also not being thin doesn't equal being fat
Also woow what a savage comeback 😱😱😱 😂😂
@@Dooyos how is she not thin
@@milfs9862 never said she wasn’t
These Idols are being called fat when they aren't just because they look "over weight" or they are "different" to the other Idols.
People clearly don’t know the difference between thin and skinny..🤦🏽♀️
Honestly, Hwasa is still relatively thin. By BMI standards, shes underweight like most idols. She has a small waist and thin arms too. It's just her thighs that are on the thicker side.
The sad thing is you don't have to be thin to be an idol for the industry. You have to be skinny for the fans. I don't think many labels would have a problem with heavier idols, but the fandom is just very quick to point stuff like that out. This video is proof, because these idols are still very skinny, they just have a different body type and because of that count as 'heavier' idols (hwasa and cl are great examples. They both have a pretty wide body structure, wide hips etc. They're skinny, but they look out of the norm)
You don't find different between skinny and normal weight?
To the people who say "if they are fat, what am I ?" : the creator didn't say those idols are fat,he just said they have a healty body and they are not SkInNy. There is something beetween fat and skinny.
The fact you are telling they are not thin in itself is wrong cause they literally thin in our standards
Purple kiss has girls with that body type too 💜
You indirectly called them fat
So.. "not being thin=fat" in your opinion
This is literally just your assumption. Being thin doesn't equal to being healthy and fit, so the creator said that idols on this video are having healthy and fit body. If you're saying that not thin = fat, then that's your problem.
No, not being thin =/= fat some of y'all really don't use your brain istg
im not thin im not fat do you know what i am? something between
she did not. she was trying to say that u dont have to be thin to be able to fulfill ur dream of being a k pop idol
NANCY-!?!.💀
Bro go check her insta posts she ain't fat please-
Nancy is the one who never got hate for being healthy
Nothing much will happen if your chubby kpop idol you just get bullied...
The person making the video isnt calling them fat in any way possible, its because im guessing the hate they got because of being “fat”, but still they slay everyday and icl hwasa and cl have my dream body type!
You literally body shamed idols
I don’t think this is body shaming, the creator is trying to prove that just because some is not the “standard” of being super skinny, doesn’t mean they can’t be an idol
No YOU probably just view not being thin as something bad the creator didn't even say anything negative about their bodies 💀💀 reflect honey, reflect
@@rozowewino yes she/he didn't say they were fat but the fact that she/he but idols in there "prove that u don't need to be thin to be an idol" *puts idol*
@@NicoleSueko why does she/he put a kpop idol wtf!
No they didn't you just think not being thin means fat when it comes to kpop idols like they never even implied that
Guys I think the point they were trying to make is that there are many popular idols that dont have the 'ideal' korean idol body type.
The message could be presented better but thats what I got from it x
Yeah, you don't have to be 'thin' to be an idol. But you will definitely get a ton of hate because of it which is so sad
I love how you said “thin” when all of these women are thin
this is literally body shaming at this point...
How is this body shaming? The creator is trying to prove that being paper thin is not everything. She’s not calling these idols fat, she’s just saying they aren’t the “standard” of being super skinny.
@@NicoleSueko Using them as examples in this video is like implying that they would be considered anything but thin. You don’t need to be “super skinny” or “paper thin” to be considered thin.
@@irall5833 True, however, when you look at the Kpop industry today you see that the definition of being “thin” has been warped significantly. Example: Liz from IVE has recently gotten backlash for gaining some weight, even if she is still thin. This means that many people perceive idols as not thin just because they aren’t paper thin, because that has become normal and the standard in this industry. When I wrote the comment, I was implying the warped definition of being thin that many people go by today, and from what I understood, the creator was doing the same thing.
@@irall5833 it isn’t body shaming at all, it’s not like they are insulting them due to their body, they’re just stating the obvious, they’re obviously not thin and that’s perfectly fine
No you probably just view not being thin as something bad the creator didn't even say anything negative about their bodies 💀
They said this then immediately started showing thin idols... u shoulda just showed shindong and kept it pushing
There's a lot of members from PRISTIN too, they are talented and does well on the team performance so it does not matter.
Unfortunately they disbanded early.
They were supposed to be my first debut Stan GG...
Are you talking about Kyla? she’s only member that I can think of from the group that did not fit into beauty standards
@@sailormagic13 not just Kyla, there are members who are not thin and they were called fat by Knetz though theirs were like... Normal and fit with their heights.
Knetz and the management look at their weight more than their health, so even tall members should still look thin when with the thinner or smaller members...
...But most of the Kpop idols that are not thin was critizise and bullied by Knets.
...But most of the Kpop idols that are not thin was critizise and bullied by Knets.
But u really need to
Hwasa is savage queen
Jeongeon dancing in the corner
You had no reason to take her name.
@@vegas367 she is also fat and beautiful I think that she should be in the list
@@pinkflower2518 you people's concept of fat is messed up idc, keep my wife's name out of your mouth. This whole video is BS
@@vegas367 the video mean to say that these k pop idols are fat but also beautiful and talented so IDK why you don't get its point
@@pinkflower2518 this is so backhanded video, can't you see? But I see you totally agree with it so idk what tell you. Also jeongeon is seriously healthy weight, you people's concept of fat is messed up. I swear stop putting her name into this
also swan from purple kiss !!
Correction, you do not need to starve yourself or follow strict diets to be an idol
We should put all our energy while dancing our idols do that so it looks superb 💓
We also just need to put energy while dancing
I was expecthing Swan (my bias from Purple Kiss) or something like that, not idols that can still be considered slim or thin... Actuallly, the fact that you think that some of them are not thin it's just... WOW.
This is the comment I was looking for. Swan is probably the only idol who's weight is handled in an age-appropriate way (no 15 year old should be focused on forcing their weight down when they're clearly healthy).
This video just reenforces the industry standards, but the creator was definitely set up for failure. Swan is the only idol in the industry who is both successful enough to be recognizable and not conventionally "skinny."
Hwasa isn't even fat. Her thighs are just big, she looks the healthiest out there
all of them are equally healthy and none of them is fat they just have different body shape
I just wish they weren’t bullied so badly for being a normal size
but unfortunately, you need to be too thin to be a KPOP Idol who doesn't get much hate.
Yeah cause they are healthy but other idols are very underweight like Wonyoung 😭
Being underweight ≠ being unhealthy
are you their doctor? what makes you think they are “healthy”? while being underweight like being obese is a health risk health has nothing to do with weight, like you can still be a healthy weight but still have health problems making you unhealthy 💀 if you wanna skinny shame wonyoung just say that
@@kyooongie Yeah cause having concern over someone who looks very skinny for their height is “skinny shaming” smh 🙄
although they are able to be kpop idols they still get hate and it affects the mental health of kpop idols...
If your calling those kpop idols fat then im a elephant
Please prove the fact that we don’t need small faces to be an idol 🥺🫶
yes u dont have to be thin but u have to have a strong mental health to not let the hate comments or hate in general get you which is pretty hard in an industry like this
Let's be real kpop is all about beauty and not for talents.
these idols are thin!!!! they just aren't considered it bc the standards are so fucking high
all of these idols got bullied relentlessly…
!! Y'all she isn't fat shaming them, she's saying everyone can be a kpop idol no matter the weigh !!
thank you guys because of you I started to belive myself
Imagine looking healthy is against beauty standards😅
Nancy was forced to go on a diet of 2 apples and 2 cucumbers a day before she debuted
you don’t have to be but companies MAKE you
Yes you don't need to be think to be a kpop idol but you're taught to.
swan purple kiss!!
Yes you do, these people get criticized about their body constantly
they're average sized women who get death threats for having the bmi of a 13 year old but okay ig
I mean did you forget the hate they got for it though .... It might not be necessary for them to be underweight to become singers and dancers but it is necessary for their mental health from toxic people ...
You either choose your physical health or mental health
Ok in my honest opinion all those idols look pretty skinny to me it’s really awful how they want idols to completely starve themselves just to look thinner 😓
Y’all do realize they’re still considered thin, right? They’re just a more healthy weight.
they are thin its mostly just their legs that are making people say they are not thin
We have very different definitions of the meaning of thin. They are stunning. Not overweight in the slightest.
I feel confident with Jeongyeon ( no hate to her ) she makes me very positive and confident with my body
Are you kidding me, they are thin, just not underweight
for an nmixx photoshoot, there was this huge news where they photoshopped jiwoos thighs to make them very skinny and there was a massive difference from the before and after :(
bro every single idol shown was thin....
Atleast they are no more being forced but then some kpop netizens just want everything they want to happen
Meanwhile PSY-'I am absolutely thin and underweight like other idols'
For people in the comments - they are not thin by Korean standards. However, the author forgot to mention another very important thing - all of them need to have a thick skin. The body shaming they have gone though is insane. Actually, artists in general need tough skin to deal with constant criticism that isn't even constructive.
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