FSE Thread Baetis (Fast,Simple,Effective)

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  • @mlg2416
    @mlg2416 8 місяців тому +7

    Popping in to say that these are so fun to tie. I've been making them in all different colors, adding floss, trying different wires. And they work really well in Colorado creeks right now. Thank you!!

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! Happy it’s working for you, thanks for checking out the channel.

  • @dgracia18
    @dgracia18 13 днів тому +1

    I started fly-fishing in 1976 (I'm an old fart) and taught the Orvis West Coast Fly-Fishing Schools from 1987 through 1997. Our most popular class was a 4-day school that we held on various spring creeks in both Oregon and California. Our go-to fly most of the time was a #18 Pheasant Tail tied on a Tiemco 101 (straight-eye) hook - sometimes a size #20. Invariably the students never brought enough flies despite the list they were provided, and we'd end up pulling "Sri-Lanka" sessions in the evening, tying flies to be sure we had enough for the next day.
    Fellow I was teaching with was Dean Schubert who was the Director of the schools. I'm sitting at the table tying away one night in Oregon and about the time I finished my 3rd "American Pheasant Tail" (has wire ribbing and peacock-herl thorax), I glanced over and he had a dozen flies tied. I asked how he did that and he showed me. It is a 2-minute fly tied with or without legs and is tied with brown 8/0 thread to match the color of the pheasant tail fibers, and 6 strands of pheasant tail and that's all. After tying in the tail with 3-tight wraps directly over each other, you basically twist the fibers in a counter-clockwise direction around the thread wind to the front of the hook and back to the back end of the thorax. Holding the thread tight, take two tight wraps directly over each other to anchor then on top and release the remaining fibers. These butts facing to the rear will be the wingcase. Next wind the thread in one turn over the top of the thorax from the back of the thorax to the front, to move your thread to the front tie-off position. The wingcase will hide the thread on top of the thorax. Then pull the butts of the pheasant tail over the top as a wingcase and either tie them off; trim; and whip finish, or pull three fibers back and down as legs on each side before winding a small head and whip finishing.
    Vary the color of your PT fibers to match the local flies at the time. I sometimes tie them in ginger or olive, but most of the time natural PT is the go-to choice. Just be sure to match your thread to the color of your PT fibers. I always like to do a stream sample of a new fishing spot before wetting a line so I can see what's in the water and what's ready to hatch.
    If you are in a hurry to get a lot of flies tied, don't tie in the legs. The pattern looks prettier without them, but the legs attached and pulled down and back at an angle are a bit more effective on picky fish. It just doesn't look as good because the legs look a bit clunky and without them it is a very sparse and nice looking tie. Size limitation on tying this is about a #16 standard shank hook (Tiemco 101 or similar) because it's all but impossible to find long enough pheasant tail fibers to wrap flies larger than #16 with just one clump of pheasant tail fibers. You can of course use two on larger flies, but the simplicity and speed of tying this 2-minute PT is based on using just 6-fibers of pheasant tail and just the brown (camel) 8/0 Uni-thread. Since 1987, that's the only PT I've tied. It's a great Baetis imitation of course and those are found pretty much anywhere trout are found in moving water. They have a a 2 to 3-month life cycle and are constantly found in the drift. I even caught Grayling on a size 18 PT in Russia back in 1993 when I went Atlantic Salmon fishing at the Umba Lodge (on the Kola Peninsula abutting Finland). I was waiting for the guide to inflate the raft we were going to use and rigged up a yarn indicator rig on my 8-wt rod...poor Grayling had no chance.
    I might note that I will tie a size 10 PT using two clumps of PT fibers because it makes a nice thin body for a good imitation of an Isonychia nymph and is still faster that tying other isonychia nymphs in a size 10. I'll fish that dead drift to the end of my drift, swing it below me and then strip it back in 6" quick strips along the edge of the shallows. Isonychia swim quite well and they emerge to hatch on the rocks at the edge of the rivers and streams . So dead-drift down and strip across and back to you allows you will catch fish in both cases. That's usually a September fly in most places. The #18 and #20 PT's are year around flies.
    If I ever get around to doing a video on that tie, I'll send you a link to it.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  6 днів тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time to write this. It’s awesome learning from other guides. Northern California is such a special place. Russia must have been an incredible trip. Please send the link I’ll check it out.

    • @dgracia18
      @dgracia18 6 днів тому

      @@AboutTrout Russia was an amazing trip. Stayed at the Umba Lodge on the Umba River in the Kola Peninsula. The Kola Peninsula looks like a big nose silhouette bordering Finland. The Umba River empties into the White Sea where the nostril would be on that nose. They had huge Atlantic Salmon runs there. During my week there I hooked 42 Atlantic Salmon and landed 24 of them. Was like super-easy steelhead fishing. This was back in 1993 when it first opened up and it was the only wooden lodge on the Peninsula. Everything else was tent camps. the more well known Ponoi Camp was on the tip of the nose and was only a tent camp at the time.
      Wife and I have been sick with that darn Type A Flu Virus even though we had our flu shots, so haven't made that short video yet. Hopefully I'll get it done this next week and will send a link when I do.

  • @BeyerOutdoors
    @BeyerOutdoors 21 день тому +1

    Thank you for the demonstration. I have those materials, so I think I'll tie some this weekend.

  • @DrRHThorndyke
    @DrRHThorndyke 21 день тому +1

    Best part of this video is the close up of the flashlight where it looks like the rim of a gas station toilet, but like one of the toilets in the outside bathrooms where you have to get the key from the attendant to get in there.
    JK Jimmy G, love your stuff and love these guide flies.

  • @glenndotter5065
    @glenndotter5065 8 місяців тому +3

    Very cool. After 10 retinal sugeries in 2 years tying has become a chore, but this Even I can tye.

  • @brianfeeney9493
    @brianfeeney9493 8 місяців тому

    Thanks James 🎉
    Happy May and thanks for the Pattern !!
    Gonna Twist some up and ply our NW Michigan waters with them !!!!
    🌟🎣💫

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +1

      Been a great bug for us. Hope it works for you.

  • @michaelshaw8370
    @michaelshaw8370 8 місяців тому +2

    Just subscribed. I agree that bone dry is the best UV resin on the market. The supplied brush works even better if you trim it into a finer point.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! Great tip on the brush

  • @davidlee8999
    @davidlee8999 8 місяців тому

    very nice tie when I use peacock for the thorax I tie it in forward of the eye then wind back I think it gives a neater head and the thread reinforces the herl when you wind it forwards to tie off the thorax cover

  • @jimhunter448
    @jimhunter448 8 місяців тому +1

    Great pattern, great tie too..

  • @TJRainbowWarrior
    @TJRainbowWarrior 8 місяців тому

    Looking really fit, James! 💪🏼 Great pattern.

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel 8 місяців тому +1

    Looks like a black marker on top and bottom. Simple enough pattern. I like simple and quick. Thou I just love tying and fishing PTs. I tie PT in 18 and 20 the way Frank Sawyer tied them, and boy, in late July thru Oct, do they work. I will be tying this one for sure.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      I do prefer the profile of the English style PT over the American style. Thanks for checking out the video.

  • @jthrash75
    @jthrash75 8 місяців тому +2

    Nice tie, and cool looking travel vise. I usually just tie thread Frenchies with light brown thread. Gonna have to try this with the flashback now.

  • @michaelterry1147
    @michaelterry1147 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice pattern. Like the whip finisher.

  • @dankochanek8056
    @dankochanek8056 8 місяців тому

    This is a rad little bug. Thanks for sharing!

  • @miked.r.6671
    @miked.r.6671 8 місяців тому

    Simple But Deadly! Thats a cool Travel Vise!

  • @jimholland1592
    @jimholland1592 8 місяців тому

    Thanks James, glad to see your content 😉👍

  • @michaellowe3706
    @michaellowe3706 8 місяців тому +3

    Who on earth is this good looking clean shaven dude that has clearly kidnapped the bearded “James” I have seen on the river😂😂 jk looking good, great fly and hope to see ya out there soon!

  • @robertperman8967
    @robertperman8967 8 місяців тому

    Are these what they’re using on the San quan? In a size 20? Thank you!!!! Tight lines🕷️🐛🐜!!!!!

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      Absolutely! The San Juan has a large baetis population.

    • @robertperman8967
      @robertperman8967 8 місяців тому

      Thank you

  • @stiffiron
    @stiffiron Місяць тому

    What brand of resin is used there?

  • @christophercook723
    @christophercook723 8 місяців тому

    The hairs from the Tails of horse areva free renewable recourse but work from the side not the back

  • @maxbigelow8805
    @maxbigelow8805 8 місяців тому

    A pheasant tail. Is there a reason you don’t use pheasant tail?

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      Because this isn’t a pheasant tail. It’s not tied with pheasant tail.

  • @alexargyros7186
    @alexargyros7186 8 місяців тому

    Great idea, James. Could you explain your hook choice? TMC 100 is a venerable hook that does work, but aren't there sharper and better hooking hooks coming out of the comp world?

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +1

      Many of the comp hooks are dark which can darken the thread after resin is applied. Truth be told I think TMC has the best small bug hooks when I’m tying >20. Fullingmill is about to drop a line of midge hooks that I’ve been testing and I dig them.

    • @alexargyros7186
      @alexargyros7186 8 місяців тому

      @@AboutTrout Thanks.

    • @alexargyros7186
      @alexargyros7186 8 місяців тому

      It occurred to me that I'd love to know what hook you would use to tie nymphs such as these in larger sizes (say, 12-18)? Again, many thanks.

  • @marcbousquier8056
    @marcbousquier8056 8 місяців тому

    Merçi pour votre video Bonjour de France👍

  • @jerryg957
    @jerryg957 8 місяців тому +1

    Anybody check the price on that vise, insane.

  • @firstlast6159
    @firstlast6159 8 місяців тому

    One question: were you trying not to touch or bumb the vise?

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      I shoot with a macro lens in manual focus. If I bump the vise it knocks the fly out of focus.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому

      I shoot with a macro lens in manual focus. If I bump the vise it knocks the fly out of focus and ruins the video. It’s a surprisingly sturdy video for being so light. Thanks for watching!

  • @colemanfairburn1721
    @colemanfairburn1721 3 місяці тому

    Nice fly; what kind of shirt is that? I dig it!

  • @futuremetz1
    @futuremetz1 8 місяців тому

    I want a travel vise. But I need a case for materials that’s better than a giant bag of crap that’s missing key ingredients

  • @acamparargentina
    @acamparargentina 8 місяців тому

    My grial travel vise would be a Waldron Travel Vise, nothing can match it

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +1

      I didn’t know LAW made a travel vise. Thanks for sharing. Just looked it up and it’s beautiful and packs down small. Can’t find any in production anymore. A piece of art.

    • @acamparargentina
      @acamparargentina 8 місяців тому

      @@AboutTrout A piece of art indeed, i dream with one of them for sure! Sadly as he passed away there isn't any chance anymore, except for a second hand one.

  • @loosieclocker
    @loosieclocker 8 місяців тому +1

    James looking clean shaven and skinny

  • @waynegraff3942
    @waynegraff3942 8 місяців тому

    Reminds me of the Slim Shady.

  • @ntherrington
    @ntherrington 7 місяців тому

    You talked about how this a great vise but it sounds like you had to change your style significantly to use it.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  7 місяців тому +1

      Just for filming. The base is light so if bump it, the fly will get knocked out of focus of my Marco lens in its manual setting. It’s a great vise for travel but my Renzetti master is what I tie on daily. It’s a great solution for travel but I wouldn’t recommend it as your daily driver.

  • @christophercook723
    @christophercook723 8 місяців тому

    What's going on ? I am watching you !

  • @dorupescaru5993
    @dorupescaru5993 6 місяців тому +1

    Te salut .imi place ca esti tinar dar gindesti ceea ce faci ,adica totul are logica .O zi buna

  • @gt_outdoorexcursions
    @gt_outdoorexcursions 8 місяців тому

    me likey!

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +1

      This one had cracked pretty hard for me on the San Juan. Easy box filler, but more importantly it’s very durable.

  • @burls76
    @burls76 8 місяців тому

    svelt

  • @helgeo.sommer584
    @helgeo.sommer584 8 місяців тому

  • @patrickbarajas7340
    @patrickbarajas7340 Місяць тому

    I like this guy's videos. But on mute.

  • @attilathehamster6774
    @attilathehamster6774 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice enough video but I could hardly hear you, even at full volume.

    • @joef1299
      @joef1299 7 місяців тому +2

      Sounds perfect on my end…?

    • @mudfish620
      @mudfish620 7 місяців тому

      You’re lucky

  • @brucereinheimer9825
    @brucereinheimer9825 8 місяців тому +1

    Definitely not easier or quicker to tie than a pheasant tail.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +2

      To each their own 🤷

    • @austinhaacke67
      @austinhaacke67 8 місяців тому

      As someone who guided for 12+ years, quick, simple and effective is to the way to go. Tying one or two is all fine and good but when you are tying 2-3 dozen at a sitting, the time constraints change a lot.

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  8 місяців тому +1

      @@austinhaacke67 absolutely agree. I skip a lot of steps with patterns and it really doesn’t seem to matter at all. Anglers tend to forget that selling flies is a business. “Bin appeal” and what trout like are sometimes the same but most times they’re not.

    • @16-BITFPV
      @16-BITFPV 8 місяців тому

      Fly tying is an art. If you really want to catch trout just use a piece of corn or a nightcrawler.

  • @rrsnotyours
    @rrsnotyours Місяць тому

    Like oh my god fly tying like yah bro….sigh…

  • @douglasmac108
    @douglasmac108 Місяць тому

    I love the hogans S and M. Similar in some ways and absolutely deadly. ua-cam.com/video/nhSRtAHgbx8/v-deo.htmlsi=pPF2_sbqMje33TTZ

    • @AboutTrout
      @AboutTrout  22 дні тому

      The s&m is deadly and this fly definitely took some inspiration from Hogan Browns fly.