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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Video 125 mounted a minicam on the front of a class 73 electro-diesel in June 1994, for a ride in the cab on one of the last EVER trains to run through the streets on the so-called Weymouth tramway.
I went on holiday to Weymouth with my family in 1969, and remember trains regularly moving along the tramway. It was very exciting for a six year old!
Despite it being an old camera the quality of the footage for its time is top notch and its also history aswell in its own right
Thanks for the great video. So sad to see how what once was a thriving station with goods yard and carriage sidings and this unique spur leading round to the
harbour. First went to Weymouth
In 1965 as a 5 year old and remember it being mostly steam
hauled although shunting round to
Quay with the boat train was mainly done by class 03 which then gave way to class 33 in the early 70's. There are some good videos on youtube of the last days of steam at weymouth for which I am most grateful as it is a distant memory now! They were great times!
I can remember being in Weymouth on holiday and seeing the train run through the street. Must have been early 90's. Also, a retired signalman that once lived near me said that a couple of times he had had the job of walking in front of the train with the flag.
Oh my goodness how the look of town along its route has changed since this was film.
brilliant video. thanks for uploading . love the poster at 13:01 ...... "backing Britain in Europe.....the conservative party ."........ very ironic
The EU were going to put a policy through on tax avoidance, we can't have the rich paying their taxes so they bought out the Conservative party and here we are...the sheep will vote as necessary if they feel under threat
Before Nigel rocked the boat and the Tory party crapped itself..
Judging by the date on the poster it must be 2001 as the previous two elections were April and May respectively.
@@bobbyfred3761 And we left AFTER that directive came in!
Bear in mind that was in the 1990s, when the Tories were like many other conservatives across Western Europe overwhelmingly pro-EU
Nice Video, I just can't believe that they had signalmen "walking" the train through the city. In Switzerland we still have trains running straight through the city, without having signalmen walking in front of the train.
Was needed round this time and the police at the time used to apparently have skeleton keys just to specifically move cars parked on the tram way
And the Guy who had the railway hi viz on would be a Yard shunter so the driver has to move under his authority
I enjoyed that, thanks. 1965 I think it was, might have been 1964. Steam hauled from London to Weymouth, stopped outside Weymouth station, diesel shunter hauled to the quay. On the return, we left Weymouth with a banker for the climb out. Magnificent.
They really should bring this tramway back into use. Probably not with trains like the one featured here, but with trams like the ones you get in Manchester, Sheffield and Nottingham.
Its all been redeveloped, and hardly anyone needs to go to the pier any more. Apart from the pavilion, there is nothing there to see.
All those cars will probably be washing machines and fridge freezers by now. Someones pride and joy kept well serviced, MOT'd and valeted now populating washing lines with damp laundry. Or perhaps just iron filings in some chemistry lab. As for the train?
As a kid back in the early 1970's, I remember riding my pushbike and grabbing a free ride holding on to the rear carriage. Mind you, it was quicker to just ride past the train but that was no fun! I'd get lynched for that today.
We used to put 2p pieces on the line before it passed...
Loved looking at the old cars.
brings back happy memories of when i used to use this line on my travels to catch the sealink ferries to jersey in the channel islands.
Cor blimey! them were the days! class 73 ED locomotive in Weymouth...best day ever!
Usually '33's. And the odd 48...
@@peterobinson3678 COR! Ever any 33-2##'s ?🍒🤜🤛👉🇬🇧
I was in Weymouth for the Folk Festival about 4 years ago. That section signal DR 196 was still operational even though the crossing has been lifted.
Living in Bournemouth, I remember seeing these boat trains and the men walking in front moving cars off the track. Good memories.
Wow! Thanks for the memory - back in 1974 I went to visit a friend in Weymouth and as 'a special treat' he took me to a quayside pub one evening. Special? A pub? Oh well ... I was stunned when a train came down the quay, no prior warning from my friend and the word which escaped from my lips was "Eeeek", very low level. I hadn't realized before how small humans are compared to a train running up the road next to us. At least now, I know where it was going.
Magnificent, thank-you!
It de9monstrates that cars, including taxis should not be allowed in Towns.
I remember seeing a bit of the departure from the quay, we were down on holiday. Saw the crowds and came up from the beach with my dad just as the train moved off. Shame the tracks have gone now.
It's is not called a 'tramway' by Weymouth folk. It's the 'boat-train railway line'. It was part of the main line railway network which carried passengers and freight to and from Weymouth docks. The ferry to the Channel Islands docked at Weymouth. In the late 1940s and 50s, when few people had cars, factories in the midlands shut for a week at a time and the 'boat-trains' with hundreds of people from them went to the Channel Islands for their holiday via Weymouth and it's boat-train railway line.
What a unique piece of railway infrastructure, boat trains running through the streets of Weymouth to the Quayside. My Dad used to tell me that he associated holidays to the Channel Islands with the Weymouth Quay Branch. I believe there's still a colour light signal that used to control access from the branch that permanently displays a red aspect
Yes the colour light is still showing red, (was last year when on holiday)
@@sirhcsteam Just for some fun, the signaller once flicked it to a proceed aspect for a little while - story is it frightened the locals
@@Trek001 where did you read about that?
@@bfapple Nowhere - I was talking to one of the signallers for the area whilst on a railtour and he told me
I vaguely remember getting on a train from Waterloo i think to Weymouth on the so called boat train, i believe the year was 1981. It was just after the Falklands war and i was on a school holiday to Guernsey. We got the St Christopher ferry then brand new owned by Sealink which was part of British Rail. I would have been 12 years old and found the trip very exciting.
Brilliant memories there.... Shame it is all gone.
Nice to see the little kid waving excitedly.
Brilliant bit of archive footage! I wish they hadn't closed the Weymouth Quay Branch.
Thanks for uploading, I've watched Fred Ivey's video countless times, so am glad to see a new angle.
I recall being one of the leaders with a troop of Boy Scouts heading for summer camp on Guernsey in 1965, I think. The nearest I'd gotten to this was at a level crossing situated adjacent to a nearby station. However going ALONG the road instead of crossing it was awesome - and weird, especially when one of my fellow leaders kept up a conversation with a gentleman who happened to be going towards the harbour. I'd forgotten about that until viewing this. As Bob Hope used to sing in his theme song - 'Thanks for the memory'.
13:01 what a wonderful time of harmony that year must have been...
Go Conservatives, Go Europe! 😂
12:28 - Vauxhall bring you the carrot. Can’t remember ever hearing about that model? 😆 Great vid! This was before my time but I always wonder what my family were doing when I watch videos like these. Although not caught on camera - the whole world is going about it’s business in the background!
Brilliant vid and record of what once an everyday occurrence..the usual bouncing a car out of the path...by people who can`t park correctly..did it not say on the road "beware of trains",with white lines around it?..I used this train a few times, always a unique experience,sitting in a compartment, going through the streets.
Thanks for sharing, reminds me of a time when I travelled on this branch/tramway in June 1975 behind an 08 shunter on my way to catch the ferry to Guernsey. I don't remember any special precautions being taken as I suppose then it would have been a fairly mundane every day happening.
Great video, sad that this no longer happens, but I think the ferries to the channel islands which were what these trains met have stopped as well now(?)
The Condor giant catamaran ferry has moved to Poole now, so there's no ferry service to run the train to.
Excellent archive,sham the Weymouth railwaymen are not mentioned.
Awesome how they moved the car over!
Yeah, bounced one or two cars in my time when we've been blocked in by inconsiderate parking.
A TV crew of many bods I was working with were so annoyed by a parked car blocking our entrance to an outside rehearsal studio, that after we moved it and left we picked it up and placed it sideways between the two stone pillars at the entrance. I'd love to know how they got out of that, there was only an inch or two to spare either end....LOL
Once bumped a Citroen CV out of the way...that day I found out the wheel arches are held in place by self tapping screws😬
I was on holiday there in the 60's when I was 10 (funny, I was just watching Endeavor, I come from Oxon) and saw the train going to the ferry. 4 blokes walked in front & moved several cars like that. But more 'efficiently'.
I'm just sitting here chuckling at how they did that! Modern cars tend to be a bit heavier
I never realised how long this branch is. Excellent video. As I have a bad back, I would have used the loco to shift that badly parked car!
Theoretically, they were allowed to.
I don't think they ever did..?
@@peterobinson3678 Probably not if anyone was watching! But who knows??
Surely there would be massive tourism potential on getting the line refurbed and used for regular summer excursions etc.
It's technically still open as it has never been formally closed so it would be fairly easy to do
It’s gone now ripped up
Why ? It’s purpose was to take passengers and luggage from Weymouth to the port. Port has closed.
Literally, the near end of the line!
Three guys walking ahead? That's a pretty labour-intensive and slow means of transport ... I think I'll just walk, thanks 😀
An absolutely fascinating video. I had no idea the third rail went that far down. 👍🏻
It didn't, the 73 is running on diesel and the coaches behind it are a 4TC unit, basicly a 4CIG without any on-board power, nor third-rail connections.
Pascal Farful I know there was no third rail on the tramway, and the ED was powering the TC etc on diesel, but towards the end when it leaves the tramway at about 20:56 you can see the third rail (or something like it!) I had thought only the third rail only came on much further up.
To clarify, firstly I think someone was joking about having a third rail through the streets.....Anyway, the train was an electric multiple unit with its electric shoes raised. When it got back onto railway property, the shoes were lowered and the ensemble was able to continue under electric power. Not quite sure about the loco. Whether it controlled the EMU or what, and whether both loco and emu were taking power.
The line from London was only electrified as far as Bournemouth in the late 1960s. Trains to Weymouth were the unpowered TC units worked by 33/1s, which also had a socket for a flashing light for the tramway. In the late 1980s the third rail was extended to Weymouth. HTH!
A throwback to the boat trains of old.
Wonderful. This is how trains started with a man with a red flag walking in front of it. Great true visualization.
Also this video is relatively good quality seeing its age and the simple camera. Even some recently uploaded videos were pretty poor, much worse than this. So well done!
We hear about flag men in front of motorcars (when they were horseless carriages). I don't remember hearing about them with trains.
Hm, I think you're right. I mixes up my history. Still, fascinating view.@@paulkennedy8701
@@pauldelcour
That's understandable.
@@paulkennedy8701 Well now, interestingly, the 'Red Flag' act was officially 'The Locomotive Act 1865'. This required 'all road locomotives, which included automobiles, to travel at a maximum of 4 mph (6.4 km/h) in the country and 2 mph (3.2 km/h) in the city, as well as requiring a man carrying a red flag to walk in front of road vehicles hauling multiple wagons'. The subsequent amendment in 1896 increasing the speed limit to 14 mph and abolishing the red flag requirement is what is celebrated by the annual London-to-Brighton veteran car run.
It was responsibility of the local police hence why the older generation of railway man call the signalmen in the signal box a Bobby
I've been on those trains a couple of times.........quite surreal !
Brings back memories of a family holiday in Guernsey in 1969.
I love your videos! They are so historical! 😀
Very high quality
Unfortunately this will soon be just a memory as Dorset council and Network rail have received funding to remove the rails, work was allegedly to commence at the beginning of this March 2020
Yes going now first destroy the port and then the port railway well down Dorset council bloody short sighted idiots
Just as an aside, I was walking along that's part of the harbour a few months ago, just a few days before they tore up to the lines, and saw some poor girl come a nasty cropper on her bike. Nothing too serious, but maybe a sprained wrist...
I pointed out that he was probably the last person that that would ever happen to... Even she said that was a bit of a shame.
Following along via google maps street view. so much has changed
S hould never have stopped.It was always a great site to see
*sight
Pure magic !!
Just after the start, there was an amazing steep section and I wonder how it made it?
'the so called Weymouth Tramway'
In actual fact, it was all just a fever dream, and it never happened.
As far as I'm concerned, they just put tracks down and never did anything with them
The tramway is now gone, the track got removed last year
I wonder how many people down the years have returned to there cars, only to find 3 or 4 railwaymen trying to bounce it out the way of an oncoming mainline train
Just amazing. Its not hard to see why the powers that be destroyed this and our rail industry.
15-23 -"hello" hrom USSR ) Thanx for video! Like from RF!
A good old Lada Riva! I still drive one!
Really? Ours caught fire. :p
Interesting billboard poster @ 13:03
Dates it very well.
Superb.
I remember going on that in about1980.
Slow and pacy journey like the lifeless 1980 Rainhill Calvacade snoreathon😂
nice
Awesome!
You can see why they shut it down, but it's a shame, it's awesome to watch. 7:22 throw it in the harbour! Or give the train a ram bow or something :)
7:20 I see that the line employs car-bouncers, it's good work, if you can get it.
Sheer delight!
Should have kept the railway tracks at it was before.
very nice video!
Weymouth - Having trains run through your town centre is stupid.
Croydon - Hold my beer.
7:20... Aaah.. bouncing cars. :)
I walk this often and wonder, when will it return ?
Unfortunately, never.
Where does the railway line continue to? There was more line in front as the train stopped.
That's the railway line I think so continues up to London Waterloo etc.
You can travel over the line from Weymouth to Waterloo filmed in the same year. A preview is on our website. The Driver's eye view is called WESSEX.
That train couldn't have been travelling more than 4km/h, could it?
I have an insurance claim.
Yes.....
My boat was hit by a train on the road and.......
What idiot parks on Keep Clear markings next to a train track? They should just push the car out of the way with the train
19:14-19:18 bell end on his bike
That tory poster is ironic
im from weymouth
I'd have to take a nap on there.
Very slow ride.
Sheesh LoL
looking at all the cars and how many i can name
Just as well I took the train, so much quicker than walking there....
Look at all those classic (crap) cars
Very odd the 2 nuns.
Wow!
great way to stop illegal parking ill give then that. XD
Is the section complete so could a train theoretically return?
theoretically
Interesting. Doubt NR would be interested returning traffic down the streets.
We understand that the tramway will never be used again.
I don't think the cross channel ferry boats run from Weymouth anymore so there'd be no need for a boat train to run through the street to the harbour.
@@trevordance5181 And besides, it would probably be just as quick to walk to the main station, given that the train could only go at walking pace anyway!
WHY THE COUNCIL DIDNT EXTEND THE TRAM WAY ALL THE WAY ALONG THE BEACH FRONT AN MAKE A TOWN LOOP WITH A PARK AND RIDE ??? THE AREA HOSTED THE OLYMPICS WHAT A LEGACY IT COULD HAVE LEFT .......... SO NOW NO FERRIES ...... TRAINS......DELAPIDATED .......QUAY .....THEATRE AREA
Not exactly fast! Why did people pay to ride this when walking looks to be the quicker (and safer) option? I can see why it no longer exists.
The train itself was the Channel Islands boat train which ran from and to London Waterloo. It was only the last mile through the town that was at walking pace. Try researching before making a stupid comment.
@aswclassics iow
I just hate these people that watch youtube videos, and then make stupid comments without bothering to find out about what they are actually watching. Made that trip twice in the 70’s on the boat train, heading to Jersey on the ferry Earl Godwin. Surreal to be passing people’s houses at walking pace behind a class 33.
@aswclassics iow (Chris Topdeck Travel) It was a cool journey to make. The train was made up of a class 33 and rake of Mk 1's, and would run fast from London Waterloo to Southampton Central, Bournmouth and Poole before stopping on the avoiding line next to Weymouth Town station. Then, with a warning toot on the horn, we would make our way to Weymouth Quay at walking pace as seen in the video, while hanging out of the window and looking down at pedestrians watching the train pass. I don't remember the train stopping while they bumped cars out of the way so I think Weymouth residents were more used to a train passing through their town on a daily basis (in the summer months).
We'd arrive at Weymouth Quay and then board the British Rail ferry Earl Godwin for the seven hour sailing to Jersey via St Peter Port, Guernsey. Earl Godwin in later years got sold to an Italian company called Moby Ferries and was renamed Moby Baby. I was hoping to have one more voyage on her but she got scrapped about three years ago in Greece or Turkey. There are youtube videos if you google Moby Baby or Earl Godwin.
Yep, you missed a unique service with the Channel Islands boat train through Weymouth.
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Yeah, boy, that was really interesting. A whole video of cops walking down the street where the tracks run. Much more compelling than seeing an actual train. Thanks for the exciting clickbait.
Not clickbait - a very interesting video record of a unique rail service.
The title said from a train and the description said where the camera was mounted. A good, informative video, not clickbait.