Why did Lily Zhang give a point to Adriana Diaz (WTC 2022)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2022
- Those who only watched the highlights video of the Lily Zhang vs Adriana Diaz match didn't know why Zhang failed her serve on purpose at 2-2, 8-2. This video gives an explanation!
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The Yellow for the ball kick is a bit too much, like the ref is making so much assumptions giving her that 2nd yellow card, what if she was trying to stop the ball? Also the fact the ref can't even communicate with the players about what they did wrong is ridiculous, all he knows how to say is hit the ball and behaviour which is so vague.
This. The ref is just ridiculous obeying some given strict rules / orders from above without even understanding playing situations. She obviously was just stopping the ball with her feet there was zero malicious intent. Sorry but the umpire is just acting like another muppet with no real adaption skill to the real sport he is trying (being forced to?) to ref.
Very nice of Lily Zhang for doing that!
Lol Lily is so nice, it would make sense for her to sabotage her own serve but who knows right ;) also her saying "I didn't see you do anything" you can tell she definitely tries to not be an aggressor but it's sad she had to be put in such an awkward situation. The way people are when they play when there's pressure, why they play, it's scenes like this that remind me of Ping Pong the animation, such a beautiful cartoon on such a beautiful sport
Its an anime not a cartoon
@@vejlkoo anime is just a style of cartoon? Lol
@@fruitsn4ck It's called anime not cartoon, why don't people call disney cartoons anime? cuz they are cartoons not anime.
@@vejlkoo ok but it's like calling a graphic novel a comic, I'm loosely using the words and using them interchangbly. with context I'm using the word "cartoon" it does not really matter or add anything if I specified it's a Japanese cartoon. Whether it be German, English, Japanese or Spanish, they're all cartoons to me
Waldner used to do kick-ups, and even ate the ball during matches and, thank goodness , was never disciplined for that. This umpire was overzealous and a bit obtuse, really.
Hitting the racket on the table may have arguably warranted a yellow card, but kicking the ball was nothing. It looked to me more like she was trying to stop and catch the ball, which many players do, even if they win the point.
Hitting the racket to the table deliberately is enough for bad behavior. Kick the ball from your failure is not good because you donot respect table tennis game or ball. You can be angry with yourself but not with other or table tennis game or ball.
There is something wrong with the empire too overzealous ...
Good on Lily. Win with honor.
2:54 what her coach said 🤣
Such a gracious move by Lily to give a point back.
I kinda understood the 1st yellow though I didn't think it was that egregious but okay whatever. The 2nd one, the umpire was just too overzealous. Yeah, Adriana kicked it up in frustration but to warrant that 2nd yellow? The umpire is doing too much and Lily obviously agreed by giving Adriana the point back.
Table tennis umpires can sometimes be the most ridiculous amongst all sports
Is the first time that I saw a card for Adriana. The first one was right. The second one she was trying to catch the ball with her feet. Lilly is her friend and she gave her a point back!
Rules are rules. The players should know what they can and can not do, especially in matches in such level. Banging the racket on table is a no no, kicking the ball out of frustration is of course not allowed.
Classy move from Lily!
class act Lily !!..
if some one screams after missing a shot, does he get a yellow ? How about if someone does a jig when he gets a point, does he get a yellow card ?
Tanta joda para resolverlo con un punto.
what did diaz do???
simply kicked the ball?
The umpire is unreasonably petty in this situation. The rules don't prohibit players from being impulsive and don't demand of players to suppress their emotions.
OTT umpire alert!! We’ve all had them…. Leave you no doubt,whos in charge!! Game ruiners!!!! Fair play to LZ. Top players. Top respect
Refs like him really infuriate me. That second yellow card is nothing but ridiculous.
Next up, players get red cards for stepping on the ground too hard
Lilly was the real G here
What is a G, ser?
This ref should meet Truls hahha
Not only that giving a yellow card for the two of the acts is way too excessive but also "pum" really? If an empire can't explain why he is giving a yellow card it shouldn't be taking into account and shouldn't be umpire actually.
The video quality deserves a red card more than Diaz did.
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Do you mean low frame rate or what? I didn't want to download whole video for this clip. That is why I used a fast but lower quality solution.
@@ArtoLuukkainen Table tennis is all about FPS. 60 is ideal. We don't need low quality, we agree to wait in order to get high possible quality.
@@dwarfrom This is NOT a match video. This is a video about the incident that is told in the video description. No high FPS needed. This should not be too difficult to understand.
I feel that Daiz hits the last ball to the net deliberately or angrily just before she kick the ball. I don't like the way (behavior) she Daiz hits the last ball into the net with this angry style or impatient behavior . It seems that the relay is too long for Daiz to beat Lily so Daiz deliberately smashes the ball into the net. Or Daiz could not control well from Lily's hit so Daiz is forced to smash the ball into the net. Then Daiz is angry so she kicks this ball. Showing angry with yourself or with Lily or table tennis game is not easy to be clarified for bystanders but Umpire might know or feel well that Daiz does not respect the table tennis game at least. It is not discrimination from Umpire because Daiz losts many point behind Lily. Daiz is really frustrated and is angry behavior. In ground tennis you can break your racket with angry. West accepts this angry behavior but not in CHINA. Daiz is not sensitive about Chinese culture. So i will not blame the Umpire. English language is not important in this matter. Many audience clapp their hands to support Umpire decision as well.
Refree'I am Chinese,no English,haha
The 1st yellow card was justified, but the second one was well out of order. If I was the other player and was awarded a point for this, I would refuse to play until it's removed.
The umpire is right. In both actions.
I think the umpire wasn’t wrong. When you get a first yellow card, don’t give any reason to get more. Giving up a point is up to the other player.
she wouldnt have done that if the match was like 6-6 :(
But too late. Diaz morale down
the judge cant even explain clearly. he doesnt diserver to be the judge
he said "kicked ball" tho 🤣
the umpire said "她打那个球", which means "she hit the ball", is there a problem hitting the ball? 😂😂 aren't you supposed to do that??
Kicking the ball is against the rules.
@@angelguevara7730 the umpire wasn't talking about her kicking the ball
@@kwanyang hi! I got your point but I think that was the language barrier because we all saw: the red-yellow came after Adriana kick the ball. In this case I would blame the organization for having these umpires unable to express themselves in a tournament they know they will have people from different countries.
it is her birthday 🎉
Umprires in this sport are such a joke. Most of them are a bunch of Karen's who otherwise have nothing going on in their lives. That's why they abuse their authority and overreact about everything on court. Its so freaking petty...
Why did she get a red card should be the question? I think it should me mandatory for the umpires to speak english
She had already got one yellow card! That is why it was a yellow AND a red card!
3.5.2.3 Except as provided in 3.5.2.2 and 3.5.2.5, if a player who has been warned
commits a second offence in the same individual match or team match, the
umpire shall award 1 point to the offender's opponent and for a further
offence he or she shall award 2 points, each time holding up a yellow and a
red card together.
@@ArtoLuukkainen yes thanks I understand that but what did she get the red card for? Kicking the ball?
@@behrmich2000 She didn't get a red card as such!
This happened:
1. At 2-2, 4-2 for Zhang, Diaz dropped her racket on the table - FIRST YEALLOW CARD
2. At 2-2, 7-2 for Zhang, Diaz kicked the ball - A YELLOW AND A RED CARD meaning one penalty point.
When a red card is shown with a yellow card,. it is not only a warning. There is also penalty!
A red card without a yellow card would mean disqualification!
@@ArtoLuukkainen okay thanks, but i really don't think that kicking the ball like that should end in a penalty. Other player did much more and ended up with not even a warning
@@behrmich2000 Yes! This case is open for opinions! I just wanted to show with video what happened. The firsr yellow card was important to know. But a right or a wrong decision, Diaz took a risk because she already had one yellow card.
It is right for Lily to stay out of the controversy but I don't think she should have given a point back to Adriana. After all, kicking the ball and slamming her racket down is terrible behavior and disrespectful to her opponent and the sport. Once she was caught, she even pretended not to know why the judge was complaining. What a baby!
Well said. So audience clap hands for Umpire decision.
That point did not cost Lily a thing: she was in the lead 8:2. If it would be the draw or she was losing and then gave her point away, well that would be a totally different situation.
@@imemine246 It disrespected the judge's decision. It was like Lily disagreed with the call.
I think the referee is fair, she should not kick the ball. simple like that
Double red for me for contestation
he has to speek in chinese??????? why is he even the judge with such poor english
Chinese is also international language. Umpire can explain in Chinese as well. So what
My first language is Chinese but still I wouldn’t say it is a international language
This umpire just want to get attention. A truly annoying dude.
Nope she deserve it. Unsportsman like conduct. This is table tennis, there are rules, if she can not calm and control her emotion then there is no way she could climb higher considering there is plenty of more pressure at the top.
he's just doing his job.
@@geraldcarino5009 The way she kicked the ball is not unsportsman-like conduct. If she kicked the umpire, I could understand it.
@@carloscambon5402 hitting the racket is justifiable for the yellow card but honestly the kicking of the ball is subjective whether it is considered which really depends on the umpire
Yes, overzealous and obtuse.
she banged her racket on the table first yellow, then she kicked the ball, second yellow, 2 yellows is red. the umpire was right
No, he wasn’t. The ball wasn’t kicked in an angry or unsporty fashion. Even Zhang was puzzled by the whole thing, in fact gave the point back.
The first is definitely a yellow the second is absolute rubbish, she's not kicking the ball away she's trying to catch it lmao.
You are right.
what does a red card do, sir?
@@harryharrison362 first is yellow card. Next yellow-red and one point to the opponent. Next, yellow-red again and two points for the opponent. Next, you stop the match and call the referee. He will show the red card and kick the player out of the match. As an umpire you can only show red cards directly to the coach. For players is always yellow-red.
unsportsmanlike... bangging her racket, then kicking the ball. a penalty. don't disrespect the game.
I think it is debatable... Harimoto's choles on clear opponent mistakes can also be said to be unsportsman like. But he's never punished for it. I've seen people put their racquet down harder than that and not get called. The ball kick deserves a warning at best. On the red card the umpire said she also tried to crush the ball in Chinese, which I cannot see in this video. So maybe she did, maybe she didn't.
She didn’t kick the ball in anger at all. She just tried to stop the ball from going too far.
its not debatable, the word maybe is: Prerogative
They are pretty soft in table tennis. She just stop the ball, is not like she slammed the table or threw the racket across the room. Jesus.
@@baxi3838_SG it is debatable