40:12 No. Hard no. Even in WW2, there are a number of times where a Battleship was the only way to stop a threat, and concerning airpower the Luftwaffe had little to no success sinking RN warships until mid-1941 or so (not to mention airpower alone didn't sink Bismarck, the embarrassment that was the Channel Dash, the various Mediterranean OPs, etc). Don't get me started w/ Force Z, since there area lot of caveats with that action and isn't just "the battleship died on December 10th 1941" and was honestly just a misusage of HMS Prince of Wales and Repulse as they had little to no escort and no aircover (which they were suppose to have, it was pretty much a given since the 1930s). Also, I like to say that the US probably couldn't have held on to Henderson Field in the Guadalcanal campaign if it weren't for USS Washington and South Dakota. Carrier aircraft ops were also in their infancy in WW2 and needed to mature (by 1945 only USS Enterprise and maybe Saratoga were the only "all-weather" capable carriers in the USN). I could mention the fact that there are technically more BB on BB battles than there are CV on CV battles. There are more examples I could bring up, but it'd take too much time. This not to mention the amount of uses a Battleship in the cold war or even today can provide (protection, smaller minimum engagement range, psychological presence, shore bombardment, speed, etc). The difference here is that the benefits of the Battleship isn't enough to justify the cost, the capabilities of other ships, the crew requirements, and the time spent on building one. Which is why the US reactivated it's Iowa BBs at the time, because it was cheaper to refit a 45,000 ton BB with Tomahawks plus some rather than building a 7,000 ton Spruance DD or a 4,100 ton Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate from the keel up. Sorry for wall of text, but I just think the "Battleships were obsolete by WW2" idea is way too reductionist.
Could you elaborate on what did you mean by Enterprise and Saratoga being the only all-weather carriers ? Was it down to their crews being ultra veterans ?
@HK-er7wf They were the only US carriers that practiced regular night OPs, which also basically meant they could work in low visibility weather. Enterprise started as an experiment for night combat in 1943, probably because of her veterancy.
You could say the same about the big Gun Navy; it wasn't until 1975 and the Harpoon were they technically out dated, as shore bombardment was more suitable than aerial strikes from manned aircraft. In that case, the Des Moines weren't obsolete until the invention of the Tomahawk Missile; and that was outside the context of distance.
I hate how people keep asking if this game's voicelines are AI, like its very clearly the case that they had the guy read of certain numbers and letters and they just splice those recordings together so that there isnt 8 billion different files for every possible number/letter combination
yes, i'll still be playing Cold Waters. Sea Power and Cold Waters aren't directly comparable. Cold Waters is more detailed in the control of a single submarine whereas Sea Power is meant to be control of a fleet at a higher level, with all different kinds of assets and such
40:12 No. Hard no. Even in WW2, there are a number of times where a Battleship was the only way to stop a threat, and concerning airpower the Luftwaffe had little to no success sinking RN warships until mid-1941 or so (not to mention airpower alone didn't sink Bismarck, the embarrassment that was the Channel Dash, the various Mediterranean OPs, etc). Don't get me started w/ Force Z, since there area lot of caveats with that action and isn't just "the battleship died on December 10th 1941" and was honestly just a misusage of HMS Prince of Wales and Repulse as they had little to no escort and no aircover (which they were suppose to have, it was pretty much a given since the 1930s). Also, I like to say that the US probably couldn't have held on to Henderson Field in the Guadalcanal campaign if it weren't for USS Washington and South Dakota. Carrier aircraft ops were also in their infancy in WW2 and needed to mature (by 1945 only USS Enterprise and maybe Saratoga were the only "all-weather" capable carriers in the USN). I could mention the fact that there are technically more BB on BB battles than there are CV on CV battles. There are more examples I could bring up, but it'd take too much time.
This not to mention the amount of uses a Battleship in the cold war or even today can provide (protection, smaller minimum engagement range, psychological presence, shore bombardment, speed, etc). The difference here is that the benefits of the Battleship isn't enough to justify the cost, the capabilities of other ships, the crew requirements, and the time spent on building one. Which is why the US reactivated it's Iowa BBs at the time, because it was cheaper to refit a 45,000 ton BB with Tomahawks plus some rather than building a 7,000 ton Spruance DD or a 4,100 ton Oliver Hazard Perry Frigate from the keel up.
Sorry for wall of text, but I just think the "Battleships were obsolete by WW2" idea is way too reductionist.
Could you elaborate on what did you mean by Enterprise and Saratoga being the only all-weather carriers ? Was it down to their crews being ultra veterans ?
@HK-er7wf They were the only US carriers that practiced regular night OPs, which also basically meant they could work in low visibility weather. Enterprise started as an experiment for night combat in 1943, probably because of her veterancy.
You could say the same about the big Gun Navy; it wasn't until 1975 and the Harpoon were they technically out dated, as shore bombardment was more suitable than aerial strikes from manned aircraft. In that case, the Des Moines weren't obsolete until the invention of the Tomahawk Missile; and that was outside the context of distance.
If jet's get into combat, do they actually do proper maneuvers or do they just fly around in circles?
not sure, haven't seen that yet
I hate how people keep asking if this game's voicelines are AI, like its very clearly the case that they had the guy read of certain numbers and letters and they just splice those recordings together so that there isnt 8 billion different files for every possible number/letter combination
Will you still be playing Cold Waters through DoT mod or does Sea Power Bury CW and both of it's MoDs.
yes, i'll still be playing Cold Waters. Sea Power and Cold Waters aren't directly comparable. Cold Waters is more detailed in the control of a single submarine whereas Sea Power is meant to be control of a fleet at a higher level, with all different kinds of assets and such
Mmmmm......criminal negligence comes to mind......
Ahh 211 I flew supers with them good ole oceana
You need to spread your AWAC out to maximise footprint
Hit hard hit first
Posts video to UA-cam… includes live stream chat overlay. Gross
why?
@ miss out on a good chuck of the game. Not much exactly pretty to look at