Excellent work and talk. I am just a lay person lurking on this channel. Really appreciate that you focused in on the simplest system capable of meeting this definition of life, which also seems right. Are you familiar with Bert Chan and Lenia? I wonder if there is some way to incorporate this method of open ended evolution with Lenia’s framework for searching and documenting rule spaces and initial conditions for life-like emergent behavior. Wish I knew more about what the broader field looks like in the future, the approaches everyone is taking, and how this work fits in.
Yes absolutely! The work they did was extremely inspiring for the ideas I'm working on now! The artificial life community has a lot of great definitions, categories, and ways of detecting open-endedness in a large number of systems, computational or otherwise. It's a really cool field of research! I wasn't able to touch on these, but I highly recommend looking at OEE workshop proceedings at the ALIFE conference. What a wealth of resources! Thanks for watching!
Yes! Finally, something quite original with cellular automata for the first time in a while. Great presentation! Awesome, you worked with Hector Zenil! Don't get me wrong, I don't think it was intentional on your end, but I do think you should have mentioned Wolfram's name at least once in this talk. After all, rule 30 is his favorite :) And he's the original compiler of the 256 elementary CA. I'd imagine most of this audience to be familiar with his work anyway. Truly awesome work though. Simple, yet beautifully creative, yielding novel results. Elegant. Have you followed any of the "Wolfram Physics Project"? There are many new functions that have been added to the wolfram language/mathematica since Wolfram's launch of the Physics Project. Personally, regardless of whether Wolfram's physical theories are correct or not, I think he's created the best tools for cognitive abstraction and visualization. Regarding the Mars rock that looks like an iguana, "Just a boring geological process", better hope no geologists watch this. XD
Yes! I previously replied but included a link so maybe it was filtered as spam. Good points though! I'll have to remember Wolfram for next time! And speaking of Rule 30, he has a cool prize for anyone who can solve some Rule 30 mysteries! (This is where I previously shared the link) Re Geology: Oh no 🤣 Well hopefully no geologists nare offended by my "boring example", geology is a super awesome field! Great comments and thanks for watching!
Also I meant to say that Wolfram's Physics Project is neat because (I think) it's explicitly looking at relationships between graph topology and the generative mechanisms that make that graph. Not sure how to interpret results yet, but still following!
It reminds me a lot to the Ken Binmore's finite automata that we used to study in evolutionary game theory. At the time we were looking to stable distributions I think because economists are somehow disgusted by the caos that emerges from the open ended world and we tend to preffer the boring one. But in principle one could apply the same rules you are applying to move from one world to the other. It is a great talk and fun presentation.
Wow! Such a great talk about evolution and how to implement some maths and computing into it. I've always wondered how this would work and how it would be done, you just cleared all my doubts perfectly! Thanks for interesting me in this field, I'll have to start reading some more on it, any recommendations on where to start?
Thanks for watching! And yes absolutely! I would check out some of the videos and papers from this workshop: workshops.alife.org/oee4/ This is the 4th workshop on open-ended evolution and has so many exciting researchers participating in it!
Absolutely! I'm currently looking at interactions between viruses and hosts, particularly how network measures translate to real properties about both!
Maths is brevity...science is brevity...brevity is beauty! What's novel? Tell what you want in fewest possible words! A bit of verbal diarrhea!😭🤧🤕 ...but I do appreciate the thought and an element of novelty... (although I have come across similar lines of thoughts before),
An excellent presentation! Thanks, Alyssa
Thank you! Amazing work
Excellent work and talk. I am just a lay person lurking on this channel. Really appreciate that you focused in on the simplest system capable of meeting this definition of life, which also seems right.
Are you familiar with Bert Chan and Lenia? I wonder if there is some way to incorporate this method of open ended evolution with Lenia’s framework for searching and documenting rule spaces and initial conditions for life-like emergent behavior.
Wish I knew more about what the broader field looks like in the future, the approaches everyone is taking, and how this work fits in.
Yes absolutely! The work they did was extremely inspiring for the ideas I'm working on now! The artificial life community has a lot of great definitions, categories, and ways of detecting open-endedness in a large number of systems, computational or otherwise. It's a really cool field of research! I wasn't able to touch on these, but I highly recommend looking at OEE workshop proceedings at the ALIFE conference. What a wealth of resources! Thanks for watching!
Excellent presentation. Thank you for posting.
Yes! Finally, something quite original with cellular automata for the first time in a while. Great presentation! Awesome, you worked with Hector Zenil!
Don't get me wrong, I don't think it was intentional on your end, but I do think you should have mentioned Wolfram's name at least once in this talk.
After all, rule 30 is his favorite :) And he's the original compiler of the 256 elementary CA. I'd imagine most of this audience to be familiar with his work anyway.
Truly awesome work though. Simple, yet beautifully creative, yielding novel results. Elegant.
Have you followed any of the "Wolfram Physics Project"?
There are many new functions that have been added to the wolfram language/mathematica since Wolfram's launch of the Physics Project.
Personally, regardless of whether Wolfram's physical theories are correct or not, I think he's created the best tools for cognitive abstraction and visualization.
Regarding the Mars rock that looks like an iguana, "Just a boring geological process", better hope no geologists watch this. XD
Yes! I previously replied but included a link so maybe it was filtered as spam. Good points though! I'll have to remember Wolfram for next time! And speaking of Rule 30, he has a cool prize for anyone who can solve some Rule 30 mysteries! (This is where I previously shared the link)
Re Geology: Oh no 🤣 Well hopefully no geologists nare offended by my "boring example", geology is a super awesome field!
Great comments and thanks for watching!
Also I meant to say that Wolfram's Physics Project is neat because (I think) it's explicitly looking at relationships between graph topology and the generative mechanisms that make that graph. Not sure how to interpret results yet, but still following!
Excellent presentation! Good job Alyssa!
As someone who knows next to nothing about the topic, nevertheless I appreciate the presentation especially editing.
It reminds me a lot to the Ken Binmore's finite automata that we used to study in evolutionary game theory. At the time we were looking to stable distributions I think because economists are somehow disgusted by the caos that emerges from the open ended world and we tend to preffer the boring one. But in principle one could apply the same rules you are applying to move from one world to the other. It is a great talk and fun presentation.
Fascinating presentation!
Wow! Such a great talk about evolution and how to implement some maths and computing into it. I've always wondered how this would work and how it would be done, you just cleared all my doubts perfectly!
Thanks for interesting me in this field, I'll have to start reading some more on it, any recommendations on where to start?
Thanks for watching! And yes absolutely! I would check out some of the videos and papers from this workshop: workshops.alife.org/oee4/ This is the 4th workshop on open-ended evolution and has so many exciting researchers participating in it!
Very interesting. I suppose that as your tools get better you'll also study systems that co-evolve, like symbiosis or arms races?
Absolutely! I'm currently looking at interactions between viruses and hosts, particularly how network measures translate to real properties about both!
It's a wonderful
Maths is brevity...science is brevity...brevity is beauty! What's novel? Tell what you want in fewest possible words! A bit of verbal diarrhea!😭🤧🤕 ...but I do appreciate the thought and an element of novelty... (although I have come across similar lines of thoughts before),
Tako ti je kad se drugi igraju sa ljudskim životom kao da je njihov u pitanju
Who wakes up in the morning and thinks "I want to define life". Kind of disturbing to be honest.
XD Hahaha you're not wrong!
seeing my neighbors, every day I question the definition of life .. 🤷♂