Is Meek Mill a Legend? Akademiks & the Chat have a heated discussion about using the term "Legend"
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I’m from Philly so of course I’m be biased but we’ve actually seen his progress from blood hound to the flamerss era to beefing with local Philly legends😢to hip hop superstars. We’re proud of him and his success so I believe he’s a legend
They don’t know bout that Hood Hop freestyle.
They don't know about "The Real Me" Meek 💯
I gotta question for the streets, who hotter than meek? .. I remember the first time I went to the Bat Cave deff was hoping I'd see him 😂😂
Man the whole tri state know meek a legend .. NY , Nj , Delaware , PA, Baltimore etc I’m from South jers we know !!
“Drake doesn’t have a timeless record”
Ban this dude immediately
💯😭
I was like dam there all of take care is timeless 😂 he got at least 2 or 3 on every album
Yea this was a wild statement. Can't even take him seriously at that point. He confusing "timeless" with "signature song"
!!! That was a crazy statement 😂😂
Right? Like Marvin's Room is a certified classic everybody knows that🙌
Saying Meek not a legend is crazy
He’s not.
Idk that’s tough
@@Stunt877Theyre gonna play dreams & nightmares till the year 3000 its timeless
How is he a legend? He is definitely ICONIC. Not a legend.
@@Stunt877I think Mj is a goat he reached a legendary status… but I do believe Meek is a legend and will be at least talked about in the history of music… I think they using legend as another way of saying hall of fame
Meek & The Game definitely legends.
Mf said Kodak a legend 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Why Yak don’t get no respect from Niggas 😂😂😂
he is lol if it wasn’t for him a lot florida wouldn’t be where it’s @ rn
@@954Jl ya call anybody a legend tf has Kodak done to be a legend
@@newagestudios408 what has anybody done to be a legend
The wale disrespect is wild
Ak hating
Meek Mill yelling on all his verses . . . I could never listen to bro
The only reason back 2 back “isn’t” timeless is because Drake retired it
You can’t retire a song lol. Legit nobody cares about that jawn after a couple years
Stop having intelligent hip hop conversations with children
Meek definitely has a legendary career he hit all the points , Legendary song / albums / Beef / 10+ year run of being relevant / put his team on DC & signed good artist 🤷🏾♂️
Nah when lil mama dropped with Avril Lavigne I remember all the girls going crazy off that in school. Put some respect on her name.
Lil momma was niki before Nikki let’s be real 🤣
If lil mama a legend roscoe dash is a legend 🤷🏽♂️
Wale over meek
meek a legend 😂😂😭😭 idk maybe for some niggas but not me.
Meek has Classics Tapes & Intro’s
Legend of what yelling words you can’t hear lol I love meek for being a boss but rapper 😂😂😂
Meek Mill is a legend, his discography speaks for himself.
wale is definitely a legend …he has to many hits n been the main guy from dc for over a decade
AK Just like hate on my boy
So many horrible hip hop takes in this conversation…. Kodak a legend but meek not?
Big Sean not in any conversations?
Drake don’t have a timeless song?!?!?! Come on now.
16:42 that nigga trippin
Lil mama didnt get on stage with jay z and Alicia keys
Dreams & Nightmares is weak af 😂
Leave it to the non black ninja to disrespect Lil mama
“Meek not a legend”
“Drake doesn’t have a timeless record”
Either standards are super fucking high in Hip Hop or they just Chattin fr 😂😂😂😂
Realist comment fr bro was of definitely zOiNkEd off dat drake comment tho 💀
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
The funny thing is that standards are actually SUPER LOW in hip hop. Like Trinidad James a legend how's Meek not?
@@BigWalka Meek went from battle rap lane in philly to dream and nightmares . Legendary, not a first ballot hall of famer but a legend
@@hopoff9968 Trinidad James 😂😂😂but they just think legend means idk … like D Rose a nba legend bruh been shit since he was 24.
Imagine being meek mill accomplishing accolades for more then a decade straight and then, lil boom a guy who his only known for being on Akademiks stream and never had no success in his rap career, started criticizing you😂😂😂
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
@@BigWalkaHe is definitely a legend with classic songs one of them being a timeless hit which something most greats don't even have....Meek has had classic hip hop moments like his beef with the biggest name in the game Drake .... he's done big numbers for a solid decade even when he was at his lowest....dated the most dominant female rapper in History ....he is without a doubt a legend
Someone tag lil boom and ak this comment can't go unseen😭
@@cementmixxTV when I think of a legend, I think of a time period and who cannot be left out the conversation. What year or time period did meek have that makes us automatically mention him? (Serious question, cuz I’m thinking of the years)
Meeks music during his beef with drake was phenomenal and I’ll die on that hill. The narrative was Drake was winning the beef tho so Meeks music was under appreciated
He flipped that beef on its head if we being honest. Both those 4/4 mixtapes and DC4 was the return of hungry Meek. War Pain better than back2back to me. Its not even close.
@@beeazy2847 facts. 1942 flows is timeless. But it’s all about narrative in hip hop
Just lost all respect for boom
4/4 was good asf
Straight factssss
The disrespect meek gets from some is pretty sad man. I get it, meek does a lot of foolery but to discount his catalog is NASTY.
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
@@BigWalkaand that’s exactly why he’s a legend because he has WAY more than that. He has a great catalog and put out quality material that sold well for 10 straight years. Along with being highly influential.
@@kjo2130 exactly meek had the industry in a choke hold for 10 years. Lol these dudes gotta be kids in these comments
@@JimyOfficial chokehold? See this what I’m saying. Chokehold IS CRAZY
Meek got classic mixtapes and albums. He could’ve retired a decade ago with DC1, DC2 and Dreams and Nightmares and been a legend lol
Dont forget the Flamerz series 🔥 real 1s know!
Its crazy that you to say that when some of his best work came after that on DC4 and Championships. But u not wrong.
That’s a bad take
@@cj5476 Game is Goat and meek is a Goat
@@zaicustisGame gotta be a legend just on the strength he was the one that brought the west back.
You couldn’t step outside in New York from 2010 to 2018 without hearing Meek
That doesn't help his case for overall legend though, just regional.
@@LegendaryTony.I just heard a crowd sing they heart out to the chorus of Heaven or Hell during a Jadakiss set. It was in Buffalo NY at Conway's Drumfest. In Buffalo NY, neither of they hometown. No such thing as regional on the east coast. This the most populated part of the country.
@@LegendaryTony.naw we fuck with him in the west coast too my G🤙🏿
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
@@LegendaryTony.Huh? 💀 who’s a legend to you
Dude cmon now, as far as REAL RAP goes??? Hell yeah meek a legend from a skill standpoint and he got classics.
If Drake didn’t fuck him up the way he did probably. Meeks been done since. The aura died once back to back dropped. Fact
100🎉
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
The Wale disrespect is insane. Easily Top 10 for the 09-16 era. The gap between him, Meek & Sean is not that damn big smh....
they dont remember that boy folarin, wale got top tier talent on that mic.
wtf lol wale career and catalog ain’t better than Meeks neither is big Sean don’t let hits go over your head
Having a legendary song is different from being an overall legend. Yet I agree Meek is a legend.
@@william3253he got more than 3 and he’s been apart of other bangers
Truth
Meek mill can rap with the best of them,but skill alone don’t determine a legend. He is not a legend
Meek is a legend based on his total career. From the dirty braids, to the hood movies, battle rapping, signing with MMG, touring with Nikki, beefing with Drake, chasing Safari 😂, reconciling with Drake, having the longest probation bid ever, and finally his prison reform movement as an activist sums up to a legend. Let’s be honest 🤷🏾♂️
Meek is definitely a legend. He’s had mad influence in ways people wont give him credit for
False lol. I fw meek but he ain’t had influence and he not a legend. He got skill enough to rap with the best of them, but he not stamped as a legend. (If skillwas the only factor, I could agree with y’all)
@@BigWalkameek definitely a legend. Dreams and nightmares will FOREVER be played
U must be corny just like him
Yall speaking on meek like he's a one hit wonder the disrespect is really real
Everytime you debate hip hop with these guys they say outlandish shit.
Meek 100% a legend Boom just yappin to yap.
Wale & Meek is Legends. But Wale achieved more than Meek did 😭 then Boom says Game aint a Legend either? Boom be talking out his ahh sometimes.
Meek accomplished more wale just got the grammy nod meek sold way more records
Da background characters is startin ta get old yo, most days they on this nigga Ak meat, then when the not, they full blown contrarians arguin dead invalid points.
@@HipHopScenedaily see i thought they was saying Wale did more records. Me personally, I think Wale can spit more than Meek.
Wale ain't no legend
@@dreadmant750facts
Kodak is more of a legend than meek mill? That is wild🤣 all I'm saying is wen kodak next go to jail his fans ain't gonna sign a petition to the florida state! His fans ain't going to be screaming from the top of their lungs outside the court house to free this man! Yall forget how iconic that moment was
Kodak is top 3 of da new school nga n I'm 36 but I can hear a legendary mf
?????
Drake don’t got a timeless record what’s controlla
Twista not just a Chicago legend… nobody can rap faster and you can still understand him. Twista is a OVERALL legend 🏆
@@Stunt877 ur prolly 18 and still leaving at home that’s why
@@izzy_bozay Kamikazi fasho 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Stunt877 lol bro do your homework before u get in trouble at skoo lil dude 😭
Bro meek is a legend and trendsetter. he’s the reason Niggas started saying levels, part of the reason Niggas sayin “in my bag” that literally comes from Philly. Most of the industry copied this man chain, he turned his bm brand that was just known in Philly into a known brand to the world “, nobody knew what Milano was. Every time he dropped a mixtape people went to listen. Meek is a legend youngbol just hating.
“First Day Out” Tee Grizzly is timeless fasho
To knock someone for having too many slaps in order to bake someone up with only one hit is wild
Ngl , saying Lil Mama’s a legend has to be top 5 worst takes of all time …
Saying meek not a legend, is fuckin crazy! Ctfu bull trippin 😂😂 meek a goat in my opinion. Ak you gotta kick bull off the chat FORVER for saying game not a legend!
Wiz Khalifa is more of a legend than Meek Mill
I’m not a meek fan but he is legend status
Like dude said, meek is an
“all-star” level. He’d make the all star team but not the legends. (He CAN rap with the legends though)
@@BigWalka ppl call ppl legends for less nowadays. I’m 35 and remember seeing meek mill when the whole Philly thing was lit with Joey jihad n shit. Old UA-cam days when shit just started being recorded. So he’s legend for me in that sense
@@michaelsinanan88 so did Meek have a better career than Gucci?
@@BigWalka idk. But I listened to more Gucci than meek
Ak is being biased. Lil Mama definitely isn’t a legend but she is dope💯
She’s a NY legend how about that? And I’m from NY
@@krazysmooth4 She’s not. Give me five reasons on how she’s a legend
@@MrSmith-1987 Her age in which she blew up at. Era in which it happened in. Her longevity, still making music. Her songs actually charted, can’t give you the specific position.
@@krazysmooth4 if she was so much of a legend Jay Z woman has had a problem with her being on stage unexpectedly. And that when she was in her prime..
@@MrSmith-1987 Any artist come up on stage Jay Z would have the same reaction. Regardless I know it sound crazy but she a NY legend and should get her flowers
He’s a legend that’s ruining his legacy
He shut down livemixtapes! Meek is a legend
They weren’t around for Dreamchasers 2 and 3 bro, he’s for sure a legend
Meek is definitely a legend. Only niggas in his class ahead of him are Drake, Kendrick, and Cole. Meek held it down for street music that whole era and still has a decent buzz 10 years later
That’s a fact these niggas tripping. You can put nicki ahead of him too because of what she has accomplished. But nobody else ahead of him from 2010s around time he came out. Maybe Future? But I don’t see it
@@King_Kuntafacts Nicki for sure but she kinda in a league of her own that’s why I left her out. Future a legend for sure too he created a whole wave
Lil Mama her biggest hit was crying on the breakfastclub
The Meek to Danny Granger comparison was disrespectful
Yes Meek is a legend Nigga on a 10+ year run and came back after one of the biggest rap battles.. One thing about them MMG niggaz they bounce back 💪🏾💪🏾 gotta respect it 💯🔥🔥💯
How drake don’t have a timeless song😂that dude is crazy
Boom consistently has the worst takes…
Lil Mama is NOT a legend in any way, shape, or form. 😂
How is Wale not a legend? He literally ran DC. Not including his Sneaker influence. Platinum singles Gold albums. Movies. Y’all crazy
Nike boots
Break Up Song
Ambition
Lotus flower Bomb
DC or Nothing
Legendary
Illest B*tch Alive
Clappers
Bad
Simple Man
Matrimony
Etc
I had this talk when I lived in Atlanta lol that was talking crazy. Meek been legendary lol he got pro athletes with the DC stamp tatted on their flesh. He mean a lot more than music to so many people globally. He has the reach to become a mogul but he gotta grow more.
Timeless music is up to your personal interpretation ,but when comparing rap Meek got records ya dumb if you can’t acknowledge that.
Yall ruined the terms legend and goat
Ak is 100% right. Chat is big trippin. I think we need to pull out the definition of Legend. Cause last time I checked, anyone and anything could be made into a legend. "The legend of... (Insert here)."
Meek definitely a legend
Trap queen just turned diamond it’s obviously timeless it accumulated more sales then every song Yall brought up
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Meek did have influence how you think Tee Grizzley First Day Out went crazy you can’t have First Day Out without Dreams and Nightmares
Its crazy seeing the comments, meek is not a legend please stop. Neither is the game
How does he think Game and Fab are legendary but not Meek?😂
Meek Mill is slightly under legend staus
Meek is the Allen iverson of the rap hes a legend of culture and the game
Until the Drake beef, Meek ran a few summers.
Lol no he didn't
Facts, ima boss and house party were played in all parties for a few years, at least on the east coast
If Meek stayed off the internet & didn't beef with Drake. He's a Future level artist.
This conversation is hilarious As fuckkkkk lol MEEK IS DEFINITELY A LEGEND AND IM FROM FLORIDA
We throwing the legend word way too easy man
i mean he a legend.. we ain’t say Hall of Famer
Nah someone gotta catch boom & sock him in his mouth 😂😂😂 cause he be in the chat saying anything
You can give credit without stamping Legend lol
LIL MAMA IS A LEGEND NO CAP YALL SOUND LIKE SOME 2000 babies
@9:34 AK made a great point, when you tell the history of NY music you can’t tell it without lil mama and that era that was started back then with the dances. It literally pave the way for all these new dances and tik toks everyone does currently so she is for sure at the least a NY legend, arguably a hip hop legend
Facts.
I dont see a argument for hip hop legend other then if being from new plays a big part in that which i think shouldnt but yeah she a new york legend for sure
Yes. I like to clown on Meek too but there's no denying dude is a legend. Stop it.
Having the game over meek is insane
not really its closer than alot of niggas think, the game sold almost 600k his debut album
Game got way more 🔥🔥projects and the better rapper 💯game just don’t have the radio hits like meek
No its not the game rap way better than meek
If a rapper is a legend, you don't have to argue about it
Yeah you do. Ppl forget what a legend is.
@@King_Kunta that's the definition of a legend, legend never dies, legends are told for centuries, not forgotten in 10 years
@@huancarlos1965 it isn’t about being forgotten. We are talking about guys that came out 10+ years ago right now, they aren’t forgotten. It’s ppl that just don’t understand what a legend is, that’s why you have to argue about it
@@King_Kunta for some people everybody is legend, if everyone is legend than this word would mean nothing
@@Stunt877 meek is known in every state. His trial made him a household name and dreams/nightmares is considered the greatest intro to an album of all time and will always get plays. He has 2 plat albums, 2 gold album, with expensive pain being his lowest selling album that is close to gold. He did that as an older street rapper with barely any promo. To say meek isn’t a legend from his 5 full length albums that all sold at least 100k first week (expensive pain 95k that dropped 2 weeks after announcement) is just insane.
Wale is literally the meek of DC. AND IM A CALI NIGGA! Lotus flower Bomb and Ambition hits the same in DC as dreams and nightmares in philly. FACTS
Frfr lol Marvin’s room, started from the bottom, headlines, over, forever, take care, just hold on we’re going home, 5am in Toronto… the list goes on he got plenty songs that are timeless that I listen to every year
To keep it real, lil mama is a legend when you think about the NY looking DRY AF for a min. She HELPED pick back up the wave for female artist. She deserves respect imo.
If she a legend so is maino because of music 🧢
Legends don't have to necessarily mean talent you can have a legendary moment which will make you a legend. The fact lil mama got on stage during a Jayz and Alicia Keys performance that will be talked about for decades she's a legend for example Monica Lewinsky went down in history and is still talked about till this day legendary.
Yo Chat Gang Meek Is A Legend G U Gotta Give Him That 💯😤💪🏾
If you actually play a lil boom meme song it makes him criticizing meek mill and the game look comical… a rapper who never made it saying meek and game aren’t legends 😂😂
meek a legend.. & it’s not even disputable. flamers series, mr philadelphia, dreamchasers series. DC2 broke datpiff when it dropped. the whole self made series wit MMG. championships his magnum opus & that was a whole 6 years after his debut. is he even top 10 of the last decade? maybe not but that don’t take away from everything’s done
The fact u can’t name little mama 2 top 10 songs clearly shows why she’s NOT a legend!
Legend gets thrown around so loosely now
The Game Put Kendrick on…. He let Kendrick hop on Cali Niggaz in like 2009
Comparing Wale to Meek is crazy 😂
There both dope and was part of MMG
If you can’t tell a story without mentioning a person’s name. They are a legend. Lil mama had too many classic hip hop moments. Good or bad. She’s going to be talked about for a long time.
Meek is a legend end of story !! if you dont feel the bars in your soul its just not for you , We live the shit he talks about we feel it differently
Lil mama probably the only 2000s female hiphop rap artist who made positive music she really underrated what it is my favorite song by her
Saying wale not in the solar system as meek is stupid AK fight for your credibility
“Meek is an all-star” 😂😂😂 I fell out
All Star was fuckin crazy 😂😂😂😂
@@AliFrankTheTank on life 😂
Nah but dead ass
And the fact that Ak is saying fabolous is sitting in the same table as lil mama is a slap in the face to hip hop. Fabo a 🐐
Man been in the Top 5 over 10 years clearly a Legend
Top 5 😂
Aubrey
Kendrick
Future
Nicki
Cole
Is the unbiased universal top 5 of the 10’s era…meek might not even be better than Sean or his o’l label mate, Wale. I love meek but y’all gotta stop
Meek mill is not a legend. He CAN rap with the best of them though. But skill alone doesn’t make you a legend unfortunately
Meek is not a legend by any stretch. He had his time but he was only top 5 for 1 year.