@@tedmarley4341 We can tell your racism shows red because this had nothing to do with black Americans. We know you love to hate, but hell is waiting for you. I hope you get there safe.
I have a hard time understanding how no member of this school board has resigned and how they have the balls to sit there in front of the parents they have so badly let down and behave as if this is just another board meeting.
Wow.. hearing that his 8 yr old daughter asked if she was going to die when going to school.. horrific. I felt this dads hurt in his words. He is a good man, and dad, for getting up there and standing up to this.
I graduated from high school in 2016 and never had to worry about someone shooting up the school. 5 years seems like such a long time ago. Every week there seems to be a school shooting.
@@tedmarley4341 wouldn't blame them, it is more or less being fooled. the kid fooled the staff, teachers and the rest. yes he did have enough "evidence" to be taken out. but he fooled everyone, and the school chose to ignore it. have to stop bringing politics and nonsense
When I was a teacher and a kid was violent I didn't give the parents a choice. If they refused I'd call CPS immediately and they called the police. Whoever dropped that ball should lose their job and never be allowed to work with kids again. A mandated reporter has a legal obligation to notify CPS when there is any question of abuse and/ or neglect. They suspected both.
@@mjduffy618 They didn't even follow their own protocol to contact the school law enforcement officer assigned to the campus. What was explained later was Ethan claimed the drawings and writings were for a video game he was creating, and the parents said if they took him home he'd be left alone because they have to go back to work. So the child and the parents minimized the problem and convinced the admin he was just creating a new video game and there was nothing to worry about. As a mental health professional I would have erred on the side of caution and not just bought the story of him designing video games, even if the parents backed that story up. But I imagine whoever sent him back to class and didn't even check his backpack and locker, has had zero mental health or crisis experience. Do we know if it was a principal, teacher, counselor, or what?
Brian Cooper... WELL said! Trust, as w/ respect, esp when violated ... has to be earned, not merely given! If they deal with the issues properly, these things can be avoided & prevented. NOT reacting.. after. That, begins with integrity, insight, follow-through & accountability! Following rules already in place!
As a high school student I think that the talk of masks in this meeting is absurd. I understand that this meeting was supposed to talk about masks and whether we should keep them or not, but we have bigger fish to fry. One of our schools just got shot up and you are talking about masks? Are you kidding me? This is childish. All of the mask mandate talk is childish. Students do not care whether we need to wear a mask or not. We just want to go to school safely, that is all. And if that includes wearing a mask, then I would be more than willing.
You said exactly what I was going to post. Are the students aloud to have their say at these meetings? If so you might think about speaking your mind. Was a great comment here on UA-cam tho it would have far more impact in person at the meeting. The students should have a voice that is heard. After all the Schools, teachers, faculty and school board is about what they think is best for the students. Who better than the students themselves as to what they also feel is best for themselves.
You're too young to understand the overall significance of "masks." Masks are a symptom. The disease is far greater. Government mandates of masks with decades of past studies showing conclusively that they don't filter viral particles is not about just masking. Its to see how much push back they'll receive to this seemingly mild annoyance...and to see if any of the population is actually educated enough to resist or simply go along. It's about exerting control and starting small.
@@MsRDH1988 Not sure if you directed the comment about masks to me , tho if you did I'm 60. I'm old enough to understand that what someone knows or doesn't know has absolutely nothing to do with age. That would be commiting a logical fallacy. It's understood that masks don't protect 100 percent. What if they only protected 50 percent than wouldn't it seem reasonable to wear them? Why have the numbers of the spread gone down during the mandates and up without them? These are actual numbers that you yourself could collect from varies independent sources on the internet. Don't have to take anyone's word. Have you actually (not Facebook) ever read scientific backed data showing the efficacy of masks? Have you researched for yourself any CoVid related materials. Do you have any Scientific supporting links to back anything you have said? Have you researched if there has ever been a mask mandate in the US before? Look up 1918.. there was mask mandates 103 years ago, was that the start of what you think is going on now? Did you know the consensus of scientists in relative fields back the mask mandates? Are they all in on this control thing? I want to believe as many true and as few false things as possible and science has been and is our best path to truth as far as I know? What area of expertise do you have or what have you read that leads you to believe you're right and the scientific community is wrong? If you had cancer would you trust your sources with your life or than have a renewed faith in science? If you found out you were wrong would you feel sorry for spreading misinformation? If I'm wrong I most certainly would feel horrible for spreading untruths. That's why I must go with science and not what the fringe science deniers claim. Science has reliable repeatable evidence. What methods are you using? Thanks
The first thing the president said before parents was that they were to not ask questions because the administration would not answer. I thought that there was supposed to be transparency. I'm sure many parents came to ask questions to get answers. They are more concerned with not saying anything from the advice of their insurance lawyers after being threatened by Fieger. Hell no!!! They need an inquisition.... Further about the 3rd degree.
Do they think that this is Congress in session ? This is a school meeting . They give you 5 mins. then they want you to shut up and don't look back toward the audience while speaking . And don't you dare ask the panel any questions because they might kick you out or they could call the police on you and have you removed .
The school board has TOO much control. I have had to deal with the school board in my location when my son was young. Even the Supreme court judges decision regarding my son meant NOTHING to them!! It is scary when the school board has more power than a Judge! I am so glad to see the man in the beginning standing up to the fellow on the school board who opposed his FREE SPEECH!!! Wake up people!! Power corrupts many, look around you!
What an idiotic comment she made. Here this is a devastating tragedy and she’s talking about children not being able to see another child smile. Maybe she doesn’t realize that eyes smile too, just like they tear up. Absolutely ridiculous. Her guns are probably loaded in the umbrella stand at the front door. Wow!
So you have a parent who details how she is upset that her children are being searched as they enter their school yet this tragedy could have been prevented had someone just searched the shooters backpack that day. You cannot have it both ways. Not to mention that searching students upon entering is a deterrent. Sure, if someone really wanted to get a gun into school they could. However, knowing that you will be searched upon entering could deter a student from actually bringing a weapon into school.
I totally agree with you! She said the shooting wasn’t perpetrated by a student ??? I think the scrutiny to enter a school should be the same as it is to board a plane 🙏
Yeah, that woman is as sharp as a marble. What a ludicrous thing to say at a meeting to discuss grievances with the board about how they didn’t keep their kids safe enough. And a lot of ppl clapped after she spoke. Lol.
@@catloverd3671 I think she was saying the other students weren’t the perps. Her siIIy point was they’re being treated like perps by getting their bags searched (uh, to reduce the threat risk, lol).
I’m shocked how some parents are more concerned about not masking than have a conversation regarding a terrible tragedy that just happened, especially the lady at 34 mins.
I think you're missing the point! A kid doesn't wear a mask and the school acts like it's a major crime. Yet when he reached out, which he did he was ignored.
Please go and hear it again and try to understand and not misunderstand. She is saying THE SCHOOL WAS MORE BOTHERED ABOUT MASKS ON FACE THAN GETTING HELP FOR SOMETHING AS THREATENING AS GUNS!!!
Kudos to the Mom with a special needs child. I have 2 of my own, not with the same needs, but I wholeheartedly agree with having more hands on deck and especially during lockdowns. A lot of those children won't and do not understand what's happening and trying to create a calmer situation for them can help everyone in that room. My heart goes out to all those kids and parents of this school.
These antimaskers are manipulating a tragedy !! These people are disgusting.. This tragedy comes from bullying.. It's not about a mask ..One life matters
He has a point though. They have no problem making a big deal when someone doesn't wear a mask but God forbid we call out the kids that most teachers and students are aware of are mentally off. Nothing is done about these students in every school district.
@@staceystrukel1917 I agree with that part of it but removing masks will just cause more people to die. I've lost five friends and family including my friend who was 29 to covid. I agree that the mask mandate is been taken more seriously than a mentally ill kid though.
@@staceystrukel1917 he made a perfect point. But pharmacucks are so hung up on virtue signaling they can’t see anything beyond “antimasker REEEEEEEEEEE”
@@TakenTook I agree. Masks are super important and I think the parents are more concerned about their kids wearing masks than the actual kids are. My daughter teaches middle school and is quite fine with the mask mandates we have an Illinois. The whole school is full of Covid right now, so to at least try to avoid getting it - I think is a good thing. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@TakenTook I do not know what the law is in Michigan in this regard, but in Colorado public schools if the school suspects a student has a gun or a bomb or any weapon then the school can search the locker or backpack of the student as they are on school property. No one searched that kids backpack that day, including the parents, and if they had they would have discovered the gun. The school should have conducted a search of that students backpack and locker(s). I suspect that the school will likely be liable.
@@TakenTook the school boards pressure the principals to keep students in the district. They want the money and they don't want the aggravation of expelling kids. Alot more kids should not have access to public education.
I am from Oxford and teach at the school of music down the street from the high school. I could be wrong but, to my knowledge, the high school was in the process of putting in a new athletic center. The "officials" on the first few interviews said that it costs money to have higher grade security installed. If you have money for an athletic center, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a football field, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a pool, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a field for track and field, you have money for security. The students CANNOT enjoy the amenities that you're trying to provide for them if they are afraid for their lives to come to school in the first place. They need to straighten out their priorities. #OxfordStrong
First speaker" You tried to silence the parents, so can continue talking...." My heart goes to the parents who cannot get an answer, I am parent (not at Oxford), I am with them.
because the school was bothered about masks than guns u dumb people!! Cant u all see the sense behind arguement. Your all as ignorant as the board. Thanks
The lady whom spoke starting on time [12:00] said it so. TRANSPARENCY! WITHOUT REAL FACTS THERE IS NO WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM and ACHIEVE REAL SOLUTIONS. 💁🏽♀️MISSING FACTS=INCOMPLETE SOLUTIONS, ...aka: almost🤷🏽♀️solved🤦🏾♀️ Hands together for Lora Fletcher!
THE REASON FOR THE TRAGEDY WAS GUNS !! 🔫 NO ONE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEM ..FIRST HOURS IT WAS A TOPIC AND THEN THAT CONVERSATION WAS SHUT DOWN. Washington DC WHY ? HOW MANY ?
My degree is in Psychology and yes they are deflecting from the problem they're talkin about something they feel they have more control over. So they're taking all of their anger and feelings and projecting it onto masks when it has nothing to do with them
All school staff should be charge with the same charges just like the parents The school knew about the situation weeks before it happened they knew the kid was troubled in school and at home and failed to do anything about it the students even came to school staff & school failed to lisen to the students even a teacher took photo of note book.. school failed they didnt care about ethan or any other student or staff in that school.. every school staff that was involved in the situation should also have involuntary manslaughter charges put on them just as well just like the parents let's start holded the school staff accountable for some of the school shooting. They can alway suspend/expelled a student or even search the student everyday if a red flag is raised on that student.. the oxford school broad failed to there job correctly as they let this student go back to class didnt even bother to check or search the student..YOU FAILED EVERYBODY blood is also on school staff hands also but they will get away with it.. school staff are cowards.. its not 100% the parents fault...
Sorry, please tell me I misunderstood. Did they actually suggest not allowing students to carry their bags to school? Is this the solution they came up with?
Really? Trying to talk about unmasking the kids after this tragedy happened. Wearing masks is part of the safety of the children. Now they should all unite and make things better for everyone after such loss.
Look to nations like Japan, South Korea and Singapore where privately owned guns are basically 100% illegal. Many others like Switzerland you have to prove that you can be competent and be trusted with a gun to keep it. The 2A is outdated and US Gun laws are a joke.
The first speaker made fold points. Trust has been broken. Ethan was failed. Yet a kid comes to school without a mask and the school goes nuts? What upside-down world is this????
@@zackamania6534 That speaker was pointing out the hypocrisy as well. They would send a kid home for not wearing a mask but not for threatening to kill his classmates. Wtf is wrong with you?
For over 20 years the schools and teachers, administration have been giving parents lip service and nothing is done our children are dying by the hands of other students, it’s time to hold them accountable, let them fear a lawsuit let them fear losing everything they have worked for their entire lives and maybe then they will do something about the dangers in our schools today after all they now hold the parents responsible for their children who skip school after 10 absences they send a letter stating we will have to appear before the court if it gets to 20 and we will be fined for it, when in fact it’s the schools who are letting this happen the teachers are letting the kids walk out of class not the parents the schools are letting the kids walk out the door and leave campus not the parents so where is their accountability in it, parents drop off their child at school thinking they are indeed attending classes the school staff are the ones letting kids get away with walking out yet they are never held accountable for it, so who’s fault would it be if a child was to walk out of a classroom and then out the door off the campus and was kidnapped and murdered is it the parent who dropped their child at the front door watching the child walk in or is it the staff who let them walk out. I know who I’d blame schools need to take responsibility and held accountable for their non actions throughout all these years or nothing will ever change.
They have nothing to say because they're all being sued. The smart thing for all of them to do would be to resign. Hopefully this will set an example for all the other schools in the country because they're all at risk. There are too many mentally ill children in public school here are not getting the help that they need and who are not being monitored by the parents. Sometimes parents don't know what to do and it's obvious that the school officials have no clue how to solve this problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what after happened in your community that board meeting should have been standing room only with parents. They said there are 17 100 kids in that community and that's all the parents that showed up.... This is the problem parents don't get involved they think they can drop their kids off to school and they got a 8 hour a day babysitter. Parents are just as much wrong as the ministration.
Holy cow! You are so right! I didn’t think about that few parents attended this meeting!! That explains a lot!! You are also right about “ parents just think they have a FREE babysitter every day! “That is very true! Most parents don’t check homework, test results etc. I know parents at my children’s school did not. Only when it was mandatory! Also it was THE PATENTS OF THIS SHOOTER EHO CAUSED THUS! Yes the kid did the murders and I PRAY HE GETS LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. And the patents better not get off! They better get 60 years ( 15 years each murdered child)!
Due to covid, we don’t know if the school board capped the number of parents allowed in that school board meeting. Many “public” meetings have limited the number of people allowed to attend. So it’s not necessarily that the parents don’t care.
Also, the public forum portion was “unscheduled” meaning the school board did not notify parents prior that they would have an opportunity to speak publicly and address the board. Since it was going to be broadcast online anyway for all parents to see, many parents probably felt they could watch it online and didn’t need to be there physically.
@@berrystraws after what happened you don't think parents should be there in person! Like I said that's the problem in the world parents do not involve themselves enough in the schools they don't volunteer they don't know half of what goes on in the schools.
@@cheryl1231 again, the number of people allowed in the room was most likely limited due to Covid-19. You can clearly see how spread out the chairs are in the room.
30 years ago I went through a metal detector in Durango ...My daughters helps everyone and different children...I go into work and they check my bag !! Big deal
Wearing a face mask does not harm a child psychologically that is absolutely without a doubt the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard in my life.
Totally agree. I can promise you that behind that much needed mask during a violent school shooting, that child isn’t smiling. Some of those parents need counseling. Both not wearing masks and weapons costs many many lives.
i can’t believe that they DARE try to compare this tragedy to something about masks. i’ve heard from so many public school kids that what their parents are saying about masks is ridiculous and they really don’t mind the masks. the parents are the issue, not the masks.
2 weeks after 4 children are murdered at school, less than 40 people show up to a school board meeting. Most of those who did are concerned about masks...or clapping in agreement for those who are?? I live 11 miles from these people & have been in Oxford hundreds of times over the last 3 decades. 15 min from this school. I am sorry to say, I am not surprised by the deer head, the bird head, the shooting, or the complete failure of that school administration top to bottom. I know good people there, but Oxford is a strange little place, & has been since I was a kid. Masks didn't cause Columbine, Parkland, etc etc etc, or Oxford.
That first man, wow, point made! 👏 👏 👏 They were all over it when his daughter showed up at school without a mask, emails, texts, phone calls... but let Ethan Crumbly show up at school with a gun in his backpack, draw pictures of what he's planning to do, search for ammo online, etc and CRICKETS! 🤬🤬🤬
We keep saying masks are not the point but we keep bring up masks.. The parent who have buried there children wish they would have searched bags...Let's talking about protecting children from another shooting and not Covid-19, this is just annoying
The guy on the school board who talked down the first speaker reminds me of my studies in ww2 about Nazi Germany. He refused to let him speak and exerted his authority in grand Jack boot style.
Hello members of the Oxford Michigan community know that my thoughts and prayers I with you and Families that last children on that day I applaud the parents of the students that are holding people accountable for their actions this is important to do to make sure that the schools that your children attend are safe I would encourage all of you to stay strong and remain vigilant and continue to hold the people that are responsible for your children's safety and your communities safety accountable for their actions though it will take a while it is my hope and prayer for all of you that piece returns to your community
Good not born again born right (although I seriously doubt that) that's great!! I'm glad to hear that you will sacrifice and voluntarily wear your mask... You can virtue signal in other liberal echo chambers as the circle jerk goes on...we ignore it now
These parents must be shell-shocked. You have to wear a mask,the kids have to be searched, I mean what just Happened? If Ethan had been searched they wouldn't be there. Come on parents common sense. It's a new dangerous day. Some kid right now is plotting murder because of some dumb parents.
Wait--the school shooter was involved with the dead animals on campus? He had a count down clock? You were told by other kids? You must take homicidal ideation seriously. Searching ammunition and drawing death should have led to immediate suspension. His family should have been told to get clearance from a psychiatric evaluation before he could come back to school. The police should have been involved in the meetings. I work in this field, and you need to get your process together. I am so sorry this shooting happened and children died.
His parents were told to take him home from school and that they had 48 hours to get him professional help. The parents refused to take him home. I have never heard of that before where a parent refuses to take their kid home when the school has requested it.
@@marylinthicum678I never heard of it before either. Doesn't this district have a community crisis team? I am in VA. I have worked in 2 school districts here. They do CHINS immediately when children present like this. This gets a child in front of a judge quickly and a child hospitalized. This helps get the child into the evaluation process immediately. Most parents don't know what to do when their children present with a mental health issue especially the first time. Later, a community crisis team meets to develop plans for the child and get resources in place before the child is released from the hospital. Chins means child in need of supervision.
@@tedmarley4341 yeah scary Obama! It’s all uhhh his fault. Not guns, not cultural rot, not capitalism in decline, not toxic masculinity .., just Obama and Toni Morrison
This school bored is spitting in your face. they don't have to answer questions from parents.they're way too smart for you. parents should get pissed and physically throw them out of office. this is ridiculous 80% of the school board should be fired immediately in this country.
This board as in many don’t know what they doing. It’s about their paycheck. They try to silence people they make excuses or place blame so they can’t be held accountable. The faculty at the schools do what the school boards says. When my son in hs was bullied and choked. The dean said well it’s a he say he say. I ask for the resource officer and told him I want this kid arrested for assault. He said we only have your son saying it happened. As he spoke two girls came in and said they wiitnessed it. I was told they they were going to suspend him for three days. No , he’s being arrested! They did show up at lunch and handcuffed him in front of everyone. I just don’t get why I had to go that far.
my loss of safety and security has been long gone and now even more than ever makes me even think more and more that i definitely wouldn’t want to have kids in order to not have another loss in this world. why bring them into an already cruel world. let’s say i choose to send them to a private school. it’s still a scary world where even i question to go out to run errands for my own safety. this world has tragedy’s all over and i no longer am enjoying even the simplest things. to much hate, ungrateful people, mental health has been a big toll on everyone and anyone. this isn’t the way of life.
Loved the concerned mom that wants transparency. How about we cuff the first parent making threats and his daughter coming without a mask to spread disease to others. His daughter should be home schooled and he needs serious counciling and threatening isn't OK
@@joycewright5386 actually, they do help mitigate the amount of viral load that is spread. But I’m just flabbergasted that there is discussion of masks given the massacre that just happened! I’m so confused. I’ve been reading through comments and this is where I landed. I’m just completely floored that masks and a school massacre are in the same conversation.
@@Shangrila37 I was also but I think the point they are trying to make is they called the police when a child took off his mask but not for a disturbed child drawing pictures of killing people. Such an awful situation to deal with as a parent.
@@joycewright5386 Ohhhh, I did not know this. Thank you so much for clearing this up. Such a tragic situation. My heart is broken for everyone affected by this. We have to do better.
This is a brick wall meeting Bc the board is not responding to them or open for questions. It’s just a venting session made to look like parents are being heard.
Someone should tell that second mom this is just the way the world is now. People are subject to unlawful searches everyday from police officers .... It's really surprising they aren't doing it at this school. And people think mask mandates are a rights violation ... Rights violations are the American way ... search them kids .... but she should be commended for blaming the shooter and not anyone/rhing else ... i.e. bullying .... that excuse is played out now. These kids know exactly what their doing when they take a gun to school. That's like victim blaming.... and we tired of that.
Pink jacket, I get what you’re saying. How and ever, you won’t understand the vague threats, fear, and searches, until it’s your child that’s shot in the head. That’s NOT how Oxford wins.
30:30 *Love this woman her speech* but I'd love to add that it's not just _healing_ in these end times of Covid but more importantly *ESSENTIAL* for a healthy *development* !!!
Are you crazy? Because as a student I can tell you that woman was. The teacher before her had a much better grasp on how schools actually work (because she regularly interacts with the kids… go figure)
@@benny368_ well, as a person that is very interested in the development of children I can assure you kids need to learn and develop social clues on how to interact and engage or disengage by the help of facial (micro) expressions. which you cannot fully do with less then half the face visible. The partial facial expressions that are left visible for interpretation purpose expire to be informative correctly as the mouth is key in facial expression when interacting and learning about what is socially accepted. This plays a key role in the development of self-expression and the ability to read your environment correctly. Kids that lack interaction possibilities show signs of an asocial interaction. And we don't want that, especially for young teenagers in the midst of their social development. It's detrimental for their self esteem. Skipping that part of our development can result in an indecision between belief and disbelief. It may involve uncertainty, distrust or lack of conviction on certain facts, actions, motives, or decisions. Doubt can result in delaying or rejecting relevant action out of concern for mistakes or missed opportunities. I don't know this teacher/person, nor the previous one but she is absolutely correct in her statement about the masks and the development of mentally healthy individuals.
Why do we treat kids like idiots? There is nothing damaging about the truth! I want my child to know there are crazy people out there! What’s wrong with clear backpacks? A few years from now those kids will have to bring clear bags to concerts and sports arenas-why are we parents afraid to let their kids know we have to use clear bags because there are crazy people who try and bring guns to school??? I’d rather my child be aware and cautious than believe they are 100% safe at school. Your kids aren’t safe anywhere but home and they need to know that so they can build a healthy relationship with reality. These sheltering parents aggravate me so much! Like what sort of fragile bubble child can’t handle a discussion about real threats?
It's weird that there is no response to questions. I don't understand the point. Why am I talking if I'm not going to get an answer? .....im so confused in the downside to clear backpacks what is he talking about? I'd be for clear lockers at this point
I totally agree we need a major change in mental health in this country but it has nothing to do with mask, im so sick of listen to people crying about mask. The masks will go away soon. Also people who defunded mental health in this country? I know who did.
"I don't have to trust anything. You have to earn my trust back." ... Someone give that man a medal.
CRT and Obama and BLM. No more black history month.
@@tedmarley4341 Huh? This comment doesn't make any sense
He was the best speaker and most accurate. Amen to that parent🙌🏻
@@tedmarley4341 We can tell your racism shows red because this had nothing to do with black Americans. We know you love to hate, but hell is waiting for you. I hope you get there safe.
The fact they are not even acknowledging these parents after this tragedy is just appalling.
I have a hard time understanding how no member of this school board has resigned and how they have the balls to sit there in front of the parents they have so badly let down and behave as if this is just another board meeting.
Politics.
Wow.. hearing that his 8 yr old daughter asked if she was going to die when going to school.. horrific. I felt this dads hurt in his words.
He is a good man, and dad, for getting up there and standing up to this.
I graduated from high school in 2016 and never had to worry about someone shooting up the school. 5 years seems like such a long time ago. Every week there seems to be a school shooting.
Why talk about masks 😷 at this meeting after the tragedy?!
Right?
Cuz white people
That’s a valid point- why didn’t we call the police when there was a kid with a problem?! 🤔
CRT and Obama and BLM 🤗
@@tedmarley4341 wouldn't blame them, it is more or less being fooled. the kid fooled the staff, teachers and the rest. yes he did have enough "evidence" to be taken out. but he fooled everyone, and the school chose to ignore it. have to stop bringing politics and nonsense
@@LifeofArtzy I don't know about that. I blame CRT and Obama and BLM. They have to stop teaching CRT in our school. America First. Trump 2024!!!!
@@tedmarley4341 Ted shut up
Fear of being prosecuted by the parents
WELL SAID BRIAN, if the parents didn’t want to take their son home ARRANGEMENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE
When I was a teacher and a kid was violent I didn't give the parents a choice. If they refused I'd call CPS immediately and they called the police. Whoever dropped that ball should lose their job and never be allowed to work with kids again. A mandated reporter has a legal obligation to notify CPS when there is any question of abuse and/ or neglect. They suspected both.
@@mjduffy618 They didn't even follow their own protocol to contact the school law enforcement officer assigned to the campus. What was explained later was Ethan claimed the drawings and writings were for a video game he was creating, and the parents said if they took him home he'd be left alone because they have to go back to work. So the child and the parents minimized the problem and convinced the admin he was just creating a new video game and there was nothing to worry about. As a mental health professional I would have erred on the side of caution and not just bought the story of him designing video games, even if the parents backed that story up. But I imagine whoever sent him back to class and didn't even check his backpack and locker, has had zero mental health or crisis experience. Do we know if it was a principal, teacher, counselor, or what?
Apparently, there wasn't an empty room anywhere in the school where they could have put that kid for the rest of the day.
Brian Cooper... WELL said! Trust, as w/ respect, esp when violated ... has to be earned, not merely given! If they deal with the issues properly, these things can be avoided & prevented. NOT reacting.. after. That, begins with integrity, insight, follow-through & accountability! Following rules already in place!
As a high school student I think that the talk of masks in this meeting is absurd. I understand that this meeting was supposed to talk about masks and whether we should keep them or not, but we have bigger fish to fry. One of our schools just got shot up and you are talking about masks? Are you kidding me? This is childish. All of the mask mandate talk is childish. Students do not care whether we need to wear a mask or not. We just want to go to school safely, that is all. And if that includes wearing a mask, then I would be more than willing.
You said exactly what I was going to post. Are the students aloud to have their say at these meetings? If so you might think about speaking your mind. Was a great comment here on UA-cam tho it would have far more impact in person at the meeting. The students should have a voice that is heard. After all the Schools, teachers, faculty and school board is about what they think is best for the students. Who better than the students themselves as to what they also feel is best for themselves.
@@danescott5149 I learned after the meeting that I could have spoke at it. I intend to go to the next meeting to speak
You're too young to understand the overall significance of "masks." Masks are a symptom. The disease is far greater. Government mandates of masks with decades of past studies showing conclusively that they don't filter viral particles is not about just masking. Its to see how much push back they'll receive to this seemingly mild annoyance...and to see if any of the population is actually educated enough to resist or simply go along. It's about exerting control and starting small.
@@danescott5149
*allowed.
@@MsRDH1988 Not sure if you directed the comment about masks to me , tho if you did I'm 60. I'm old enough to understand that what someone knows or doesn't know has absolutely nothing to do with age. That would be commiting a logical fallacy. It's understood that masks don't protect 100 percent. What if they only protected 50 percent than wouldn't it seem reasonable to wear them? Why have the numbers of the spread gone down during the mandates and up without them? These are actual numbers that you yourself could collect from varies independent sources on the internet. Don't have to take anyone's word. Have you actually (not Facebook) ever read scientific backed data showing the efficacy of masks? Have you researched for yourself any CoVid related materials. Do you have any Scientific supporting links to back anything you have said? Have you researched if there has ever been a mask mandate in the US before? Look up 1918.. there was mask mandates 103 years ago, was that the start of what you think is going on now? Did you know the consensus of scientists in relative fields back the mask mandates? Are they all in on this control thing? I want to believe as many true and as few false things as possible and science has been and is our best path to truth as far as I know? What area of expertise do you have or what have you read that leads you to believe you're right and the scientific community is wrong? If you had cancer would you trust your sources with your life or than have a renewed faith in science? If you found out you were wrong would you feel sorry for spreading misinformation? If I'm wrong I most certainly would feel horrible for spreading untruths. That's why I must go with science and not what the fringe science deniers claim. Science has reliable repeatable evidence. What methods are you using? Thanks
Kudos for the man who had the courage to confront the school board and put them where they belong....out 👏👏👏
this meeting is BS they dont want to answer any questions and take accountability
Honestly what is the point. Like 'here's a vent session but you'll get no answers' tf I want answers I can vent at home
exactly. communication is key.
The first thing the president said before parents was that they were to not ask questions because the administration would not answer. I thought that there was supposed to be transparency. I'm sure many parents came to ask questions to get answers. They are more concerned with not saying anything from the advice of their insurance lawyers after being threatened by Fieger. Hell no!!! They need an inquisition.... Further about the 3rd degree.
Do they think that this is Congress in session ? This is a school meeting . They give you 5 mins. then they want you to shut up and don't look back toward the audience while speaking . And don't you dare ask the panel any questions because they might kick you out or they could call the police on you and have you removed .
“I’m not here to talk about masks” talks about masks
The school board has TOO much control. I have had to deal with the school board in my location when my son was young. Even the Supreme court judges decision regarding my son meant NOTHING to them!! It is scary when the school board has more power than a Judge! I am so glad to see the man in the beginning standing up to the fellow on the school board who opposed his FREE SPEECH!!! Wake up people!! Power corrupts many, look around you!
i’m sorry did she try to say masks were a component in the shooting?
Crazy Evangelical white people 😔
What an idiotic comment she made. Here this is a devastating tragedy and she’s talking about children not being able to see another child smile. Maybe she doesn’t realize that eyes smile too, just like they tear up. Absolutely ridiculous. Her guns are probably loaded in the umbrella stand at the front door. Wow!
So you have a parent who details how she is upset that her children are being searched as they enter their school yet this tragedy could have been prevented had someone just searched the shooters backpack that day. You cannot have it both ways. Not to mention that searching students upon entering is a deterrent. Sure, if someone really wanted to get a gun into school they could. However, knowing that you will be searched upon entering could deter a student from actually bringing a weapon into school.
I totally agree with you! She said the shooting wasn’t perpetrated by a student ??? I think the scrutiny to enter a school should be the same as it is to board a plane 🙏
💯 agree
I agree with you, this mother is definately out to lunch! She didn't make any sense at all! What an idiot!
Yeah, that woman is as sharp as a marble. What a ludicrous thing to say at a meeting to discuss grievances with the board about how they didn’t keep their kids safe enough. And a lot of ppl clapped after she spoke. Lol.
@@catloverd3671 I think she was saying the other students weren’t the perps. Her siIIy point was they’re being treated like perps by getting their bags searched (uh, to reduce the threat risk, lol).
Love the parent who stated, " You called the police on me to shut me up. Why didn't you call the police when a kid had a problem?".
This guy has some GREAT POINTS! ! Everyone wants to be the Boss but no one wants to incorporate change or do the “WORK”
I’m shocked how some parents are more concerned about not masking than have a conversation regarding a terrible tragedy that just happened, especially the lady at 34 mins.
I think you're missing the point! A kid doesn't wear a mask and the school acts like it's a major crime. Yet when he reached out, which he did he was ignored.
Please go and hear it again and try to understand and not misunderstand. She is saying THE SCHOOL WAS MORE BOTHERED ABOUT MASKS ON FACE THAN GETTING HELP FOR SOMETHING AS THREATENING AS GUNS!!!
I agree! I hear a bunch of privileged and over-indulged whiners.
Kudos to the Mom with a special needs child. I have 2 of my own, not with the same needs, but I wholeheartedly agree with having more hands on deck and especially during lockdowns. A lot of those children won't and do not understand what's happening and trying to create a calmer situation for them can help everyone in that room. My heart goes out to all those kids and parents of this school.
36:36 Brian Cooper is preaching!!!
These antimaskers are manipulating a tragedy !! These people are disgusting.. This tragedy comes from bullying.. It's not about a mask ..One life matters
It’s insane. They are sick fcks
i know ! wtf!
He has a point though. They have no problem making a big deal when someone doesn't wear a mask but God forbid we call out the kids that most teachers and students are aware of are mentally off. Nothing is done about these students in every school district.
@@staceystrukel1917 I agree with that part of it but removing masks will just cause more people to die. I've lost five friends and family including my friend who was 29 to covid. I agree that the mask mandate is been taken more seriously than a mentally ill kid though.
@@staceystrukel1917 he made a perfect point. But pharmacucks are so hung up on virtue signaling they can’t see anything beyond “antimasker REEEEEEEEEEE”
Searched isn't a big deal !! I work at a casino and we check get checked ..Don't teach your kids that it's a bad thing .. BE SAFE
Amen! This man deserves so much more then he's getting. The silence speaks volumes. They know he's right!
It’s bad they are discussing about masks; everyone should have spoken like first guy; these parents are lucky their children are alive
@@TakenTook I agree. Masks are super important and I think the parents are more concerned about their kids wearing masks than the actual kids are.
My daughter teaches middle school and is quite fine with the mask mandates we have an Illinois.
The whole school is full of Covid right now, so to at least try to avoid getting it - I think is a good thing. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@TakenTook I do not know what the law is in Michigan in this regard, but in Colorado public schools if the school suspects a student has a gun or a bomb or any weapon then the school can search the locker or backpack of the student as they are on school property. No one searched that kids backpack that day, including the parents, and if they had they would have discovered the gun. The school should have conducted a search of that students backpack and locker(s). I suspect that the school will likely be liable.
@@etainafuzz They can legally search any student for any reason in Michigan.
@@TakenTook the school boards pressure the principals to keep students in the district. They want the money and they don't want the aggravation of expelling kids. Alot more kids should not have access to public education.
@@TakenTook private schools kick kids out for behavior way more often.
I am from Oxford and teach at the school of music down the street from the high school. I could be wrong but, to my knowledge, the high school was in the process of putting in a new athletic center. The "officials" on the first few interviews said that it costs money to have higher grade security installed. If you have money for an athletic center, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a football field, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a pool, you have money for security. If you have money to maintain a field for track and field, you have money for security. The students CANNOT enjoy the amenities that you're trying to provide for them if they are afraid for their lives to come to school in the first place. They need to straighten out their priorities. #OxfordStrong
he who choses security over freedom deserves neither. Benjamin franklin.
we need to choose mental health over security and prisons.
Very well said, I am also a graduate of Oxford.
Well said!!!
First speaker" You tried to silence the parents, so can continue talking...." My heart goes to the parents who cannot get an answer, I am parent (not at Oxford), I am with them.
WHY ARE MASKS AN ISSUE ! PARENTS CREAT THIS NARRITIVE URRRR
Right? Kids were MURDERED and they're all concerned about masks?
Exactly what I was thinking when watching the beginning.
because the school was bothered about masks than guns u dumb people!! Cant u all see the sense behind arguement. Your all as ignorant as the board. Thanks
@@realtalk3772SMH
The lady whom spoke starting on time [12:00] said it so. TRANSPARENCY!
WITHOUT REAL FACTS THERE IS NO WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM and ACHIEVE REAL SOLUTIONS.
💁🏽♀️MISSING FACTS=INCOMPLETE SOLUTIONS,
...aka: almost🤷🏽♀️solved🤦🏾♀️
Hands together for Lora Fletcher!
THE REASON FOR THE TRAGEDY WAS GUNS !! 🔫 NO ONE WANTS TO ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEM ..FIRST HOURS IT WAS A TOPIC AND THEN THAT CONVERSATION WAS SHUT DOWN. Washington DC WHY ? HOW MANY ?
My degree is in Psychology and yes they are deflecting from the problem they're talkin about something they feel they have more control over. So they're taking all of their anger and feelings and projecting it onto masks when it has nothing to do with them
@@randomrebecka6778 FOUR Children were MURDERED and they talk about masks? SMH
@@Stircrazyy10 that's my point
@@randomrebecka6778 US Gun laws are a joke! Look outside the USA for answers as the 2nd Amendment is outdated and does more bad then good.
All school staff should be charge with the same charges just like the parents The school knew about the situation weeks before it happened they knew the kid was troubled in school and at home and failed to do anything about it the students even came to school staff & school failed to lisen to the students even a teacher took photo of note book.. school failed they didnt care about ethan or any other student or staff in that school.. every school staff that was involved in the situation should also have involuntary manslaughter charges put on them just as well just like the parents let's start holded the school staff accountable for some of the school shooting. They can alway suspend/expelled a student or even search the student everyday if a red flag is raised on that student.. the oxford school broad failed to there job correctly as they let this student go back to class didnt even bother to check or search the student..YOU FAILED EVERYBODY blood is also on school staff hands also but they will get away with it.. school staff are cowards.. its not 100% the parents fault...
Sorry, please tell me I misunderstood. Did they actually suggest not allowing students to carry their bags to school? Is this the solution they came up with?
Love the first guy that spoke.. calling all those people out.
Really? Trying to talk about unmasking the kids after this tragedy happened. Wearing masks is part of the safety of the children. Now they should all unite and make things better for everyone after such loss.
i knoww idk how wearing a mask correlates with mental illness💩💩
Ethan didn’t even have a mask on but he DID have a weapon in his book bag.
Maybe get your gun problem under control America.
Also, every one uses the “______ strong” it’s so played out.
Look to nations like Japan, South Korea and Singapore where privately owned guns are basically 100% illegal. Many others like Switzerland you have to prove that you can be competent and be trusted with a gun to keep it. The 2A is outdated and US Gun laws are a joke.
The first speaker made fold points.
Trust has been broken.
Ethan was failed. Yet a kid comes to school without a mask and the school goes nuts? What upside-down world is this????
That first speaker needs to be the new president of the school board. Facts.
No. He was bitching about masks in the wake of a mass gun death event. Most definitely not
@@zackamania6534 That speaker was pointing out the hypocrisy as well. They would send a kid home for not wearing a mask but not for threatening to kill his classmates. Wtf is wrong with you?
@@GreenVibezIguanaDaddy time and place. Inappropriate. This was not about mask whiners.
@@zackamania6534 Not only was it not the time and place, but opposing mask mandates is peak cringe.
Wow I love that first speaker! God Bless you! Thank you for speaking.
The first part of the issue is setting the board up 5 feet higher than the other speakers.
The black sweater educator is what makes education so great! The kids don’t mind their masks. They make sense!
They talk to the parents very disrespectful.
That's crazy.
I have never seen a school Bord so rude
For over 20 years the schools and teachers, administration have been giving parents lip service and nothing is done our children are dying by the hands of other students, it’s time to hold them accountable, let them fear a lawsuit let them fear losing everything they have worked for their entire lives and maybe then they will do something about the dangers in our schools today after all they now hold the parents responsible for their children who skip school after 10 absences they send a letter stating we will have to appear before the court if it gets to 20 and we will be fined for it, when in fact it’s the schools who are letting this happen the teachers are letting the kids walk out of class not the parents the schools are letting the kids walk out the door and leave campus not the parents so where is their accountability in it, parents drop off their child at school thinking they are indeed attending classes the school staff are the ones letting kids get away with walking out yet they are never held accountable for it, so who’s fault would it be if a child was to walk out of a classroom and then out the door off the campus and was kidnapped and murdered is it the parent who dropped their child at the front door watching the child walk in or is it the staff who let them walk out. I know who I’d blame schools need to take responsibility and held accountable for their non actions throughout all these years or nothing will ever change.
They have nothing to say because they're all being sued. The smart thing for all of them to do would be to resign. Hopefully this will set an example for all the other schools in the country because they're all at risk. There are too many mentally ill children in public school here are not getting the help that they need and who are not being monitored by the parents. Sometimes parents don't know what to do and it's obvious that the school officials have no clue how to solve this problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what after happened in your community that board meeting should have been standing room only with parents. They said there are 17 100 kids in that community and that's all the parents that showed up.... This is the problem parents don't get involved they think they can drop their kids off to school and they got a 8 hour a day babysitter. Parents are just as much wrong as the ministration.
Holy cow! You are so right! I didn’t think about that few parents attended this meeting!! That explains a lot!! You are also right about “ parents just think they have a FREE babysitter every day! “That is very true! Most parents don’t check homework, test results etc. I know parents at my children’s school did not. Only when it was mandatory!
Also it was THE PATENTS OF THIS SHOOTER EHO CAUSED THUS! Yes the kid did the murders and I PRAY HE GETS LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. And the patents better not get off! They better get 60 years ( 15 years each murdered child)!
Due to covid, we don’t know if the school board capped the number of parents allowed in that school board meeting. Many “public” meetings have limited the number of people allowed to attend. So it’s not necessarily that the parents don’t care.
Also, the public forum portion was “unscheduled” meaning the school board did not notify parents prior that they would have an opportunity to speak publicly and address the board. Since it was going to be broadcast online anyway for all parents to see, many parents probably felt they could watch it online and didn’t need to be there physically.
@@berrystraws after what happened you don't think parents should be there in person! Like I said that's the problem in the world parents do not involve themselves enough in the schools they don't volunteer they don't know half of what goes on in the schools.
@@cheryl1231 again, the number of people allowed in the room was most likely limited due to Covid-19. You can clearly see how spread out the chairs are in the room.
why was it unscheduled, so the audience was smaller?
I can tell you from experience that subs are not given any trainings on anything (different district).
30 years ago I went through a metal detector in Durango ...My daughters helps everyone and different children...I go into work and they check my bag !! Big deal
Wearing a face mask does not harm a child psychologically that is absolutely without a doubt the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard in my life.
I agree and I would add it's the parents themselves hurting their children psychologically.
Totally agree. I can promise you that behind that much needed mask during a violent school shooting, that child isn’t smiling. Some of those parents need counseling. Both not wearing masks and weapons costs many many lives.
i can’t believe that they DARE try to compare this tragedy to something about masks. i’ve heard from so many public school kids that what their parents are saying about masks is ridiculous and they really don’t mind the masks. the parents are the issue, not the masks.
@@oliviam5209 Many of us parents hate the masks (that are not helpful btw) & want them GONE!!
Where did all the suicides come from
the first man is absolutely inspiring.
2 weeks after 4 children are murdered at school, less than 40 people show up to a school board meeting. Most of those who did are concerned about masks...or clapping in agreement for those who are?? I live 11 miles from these people & have been in Oxford hundreds of times over the last 3 decades. 15 min from this school. I am sorry to say, I am not surprised by the deer head, the bird head, the shooting, or the complete failure of that school administration top to bottom. I know good people there, but Oxford is a strange little place, & has been since I was a kid. Masks didn't cause Columbine, Parkland, etc etc etc, or Oxford.
I'm blown away????? Some thease parents!
"You need not ask if questions, we won't answer"... Gee...I thought they were going to be transparent
Spreading disease isn't a laughing matter ..Teachers and staff matter..
I can't believe that there was a mass shooting at one of their schools and they are so worried about masks!
@@josephk4932 Not when it is a matter of health and safety I'm not and neither are my kids!
Sponsored by Psfizer. O.ooooo percent kids died from covid.
That first man, wow, point made! 👏 👏 👏 They were all over it when his daughter showed up at school without a mask, emails, texts, phone calls... but let Ethan Crumbly show up at school with a gun in his backpack, draw pictures of what he's planning to do, search for ammo online, etc and CRICKETS! 🤬🤬🤬
We keep saying masks are not the point but we keep bring up masks.. The parent who have buried there children wish they would have searched bags...Let's talking about protecting children from another shooting and not Covid-19, this is just annoying
The guy on the school board who talked down the first speaker reminds me of my studies in ww2 about Nazi Germany. He refused to let him speak and exerted his authority in grand Jack boot style.
It's hilarious how the poor teens gotta survive going to school but all these parents are concerned about is face masks..
The guy speaking at 36:50.... He spoke volumes. WOW!
I wouldn't get THAT CLOSE TO THE 😳MIC🎙 WITHOUT A MASK. IJS
Exactly 💯
Antimaskers are killers !!! ONE LIFE MATTERS !! ONE LIFE MATTERS !!! THIS LADY Has no right to bring up the Bible.
All Life matter's.
All lives MATTER.
Calling an antimasker a killer is disgusting.
@@staceystrukel1917 I agree, it's disgusting that it's so accurate.
This is the most pathetic load of fear mothering, loyalist, pharmacuckery I have ever seen 😂 get a grip.
Hello members of the Oxford Michigan community know that my thoughts and prayers I with you and Families that last children on that day I applaud the parents of the students that are holding people accountable for their actions this is important to do to make sure that the schools that your children attend are safe I would encourage all of you to stay strong and remain vigilant and continue to hold the people that are responsible for your children's safety and your communities safety accountable for their actions though it will take a while it is my hope and prayer for all of you that piece returns to your community
Wow ! Love ❤️ simple task to wear a mask to care for saving lives !! Thank you !! Our teachers matter ..IT'S A SMALL SACRIFICE TO WEAR A MASK !
Good not born again born right (although I seriously doubt that) that's great!! I'm glad to hear that you will sacrifice and voluntarily wear your mask... You can virtue signal in other liberal echo chambers as the circle jerk goes on...we ignore it now
Wow this was eye opening!! Started off with a kick
Could the parents file a civil case against the school?
These parents must be shell-shocked.
You have to wear a mask,the kids have to be searched, I mean what just Happened?
If Ethan had been searched they wouldn't be there.
Come on parents common sense.
It's a new dangerous day.
Some kid right now is plotting murder because of some dumb parents.
Inner city schools been having backpack searches and metal detectors for years now it’s a issue in the suburbs interesting.
Wait--the school shooter was involved with the dead animals on campus? He had a count down clock? You were told by other kids? You must take homicidal ideation seriously. Searching ammunition and drawing death should have led to immediate suspension. His family should have been told to get clearance from a psychiatric evaluation before he could come back to school. The police should have been involved in the meetings. I work in this field, and you need to get your process together. I am so sorry this shooting happened and children died.
His parents were told to take him home from school and that they had 48 hours to get him professional help. The parents refused to take him home. I have never heard of that before where a parent refuses to take their kid home when the school has requested it.
@@marylinthicum678I never heard of it before either. Doesn't this district have a community crisis team? I am in VA. I have worked in 2 school districts here. They do CHINS immediately when children present like this. This gets a child in front of a judge quickly and a child hospitalized. This helps get the child into the evaluation process immediately. Most parents don't know what to do when their children present with a mental health issue especially the first time. Later, a community crisis team meets to develop plans for the child and get resources in place before the child is released from the hospital. Chins means child in need of supervision.
I feel so bad for the kids and the parents this tragedy could have been prevented!
The Administration should be in jail. They let Ethan down and all the students down
No the kid, the shooter, wasn’t “let down”
CRT and Obama and BLM 🤗
@@tedmarley4341 yeah scary Obama! It’s all uhhh his fault. Not guns, not cultural rot, not capitalism in decline, not toxic masculinity .., just Obama and Toni Morrison
This school bored is spitting in your face. they don't have to answer questions from parents.they're way too smart for you. parents should get pissed and physically throw them out of office. this is ridiculous 80% of the school board should be fired immediately in this country.
💯 agree
Yes! They're awful and only concerned about money.
This board as in many don’t know what they doing. It’s about their paycheck. They try to silence people they make excuses or place blame so they can’t be held accountable. The faculty at the schools do what the school boards says. When my son in hs was bullied and choked. The dean said well it’s a he say he say. I ask for the resource officer and told him I want this kid arrested for assault. He said we only have your son saying it happened. As he spoke two girls came in and said they wiitnessed it. I was told they they were going to suspend him for three days. No , he’s being arrested! They did show up at lunch and handcuffed him in front of everyone. I just don’t get why I had to go that far.
Any final board comments? Crickets. Despicable.
my loss of safety and security has been long gone and now even more than ever makes me even think more and more that i definitely wouldn’t want to have kids in order to not have another loss in this world. why bring them into an already cruel world. let’s say i choose to send them to a private school. it’s still a scary world where even i question to go out to run errands for my own safety. this world has tragedy’s all over and i no longer am enjoying even the simplest things. to much hate, ungrateful people, mental health has been a big toll on everyone and anyone. this isn’t the way of life.
Brian Cooper - well said!!.
Loved the concerned mom that wants transparency. How about we cuff the first parent making threats and his daughter coming without a mask to spread disease to others. His daughter should be home schooled and he needs serious counciling and threatening isn't OK
“Cuff the first parent”
You would be a model Chinese citizen 😂
Masks do nothing to stop the spread of viruses.
@@joycewright5386 actually, they do help mitigate the amount of viral load that is spread. But I’m just flabbergasted that there is discussion of masks given the massacre that just happened! I’m so confused. I’ve been reading through comments and this is where I landed. I’m just completely floored that masks and a school massacre are in the same conversation.
@@Shangrila37 I was also but I think the point they are trying to make is they called the police when a child took off his mask but not for a disturbed child drawing pictures of killing people. Such an awful situation to deal with as a parent.
@@joycewright5386 Ohhhh, I did not know this. Thank you so much for clearing this up. Such a tragic situation. My heart is broken for everyone affected by this. We have to do better.
Girl shutup lol. We wear masks in counseling
Well said Anna so true in many schools.
This school should be closed down for good.
its sad the fact I go to school scared if I see someone with a bigger bag then normally
This about sepina in school?
A mass shooting and these people choose to complain about a piece of fabric 🥴
Accountability is a tough one for those school board members but they should be held responsible for this terrible negligence
Yea!!!!!!!! The kids really don’t mind the masks. It’s the parents who kiss the butt of trump! Yaasssss teacher!
Why did no one clap at the end of the first guys 5 min. Speech?!?!
This is a brick wall meeting Bc the board is not responding to them or open for questions. It’s just a venting session made to look like parents are being heard.
Don't ask us questions as we will not answer them, WHAT THE HELL
Someone should tell that second mom this is just the way the world is now. People are subject to unlawful searches everyday from police officers .... It's really surprising they aren't doing it at this school. And people think mask mandates are a rights violation ... Rights violations are the American way ... search them kids .... but she should be commended for blaming the shooter and not anyone/rhing else ... i.e. bullying .... that excuse is played out now. These kids know exactly what their doing when they take a gun to school. That's like victim blaming.... and we tired of that.
The administration of the school should be fired and sued for what they did not do when they could have stopped it.
Wow don't ask any questions we're not going to answer them! These people have their nerve!!
Even the so called adults are arguing over masks and who gets to speak. This is totally ridiculous so soon after Ethan lit up the school whoa 😳
Man this is Bad!This School FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!
No comment from the board speaks volumes! No comment?! Unbelievable!
The first man has issues.. serious issues !
He is a republican scambag clown 🤡
Sorry but I can’t believe all the discussion about masks when that IS the LEAST important topic. Geez.
Pink jacket, I get what you’re saying. How and ever, you won’t understand the vague threats, fear, and searches, until it’s your child that’s shot in the head. That’s NOT how Oxford wins.
30:30 *Love this woman her speech* but I'd love to add that it's not just _healing_ in these end times of Covid but more importantly *ESSENTIAL* for a healthy *development* !!!
Are you crazy? Because as a student I can tell you that woman was.
The teacher before her had a much better grasp on how schools actually work (because she regularly interacts with the kids… go figure)
@@benny368_ well, as a person that is very interested in the development of children I can assure you kids need to learn and develop social clues on how to interact and engage or disengage by the help of facial (micro) expressions. which you cannot fully do with less then half the face visible. The partial facial expressions that are left visible for interpretation purpose expire to be informative correctly as the mouth is key in facial expression when interacting and learning about what is socially accepted. This plays a key role in the development of self-expression and the ability to read your environment correctly. Kids that lack interaction possibilities show signs of an asocial interaction. And we don't want that, especially for young teenagers in the midst of their social development. It's detrimental for their self esteem. Skipping that part of our development can result in an indecision between belief and disbelief. It may involve uncertainty, distrust or lack of conviction on certain facts, actions, motives, or decisions. Doubt can result in delaying or rejecting relevant action out of concern for mistakes or missed opportunities.
I don't know this teacher/person, nor the previous one but she is absolutely correct in her statement about the masks and the development of mentally healthy individuals.
Our special needs teachers are true heroes! They got all those kids to safety!!🦸♀️🦸♀️🦸♀️
Why do we treat kids like idiots? There is nothing damaging about the truth! I want my child to know there are crazy people out there! What’s wrong with clear backpacks? A few years from now those kids will have to bring clear bags to concerts and sports arenas-why are we parents afraid to let their kids know we have to use clear bags because there are crazy people who try and bring guns to school??? I’d rather my child be aware and cautious than believe they are 100% safe at school. Your kids aren’t safe anywhere but home and they need to know that so they can build a healthy relationship with reality. These sheltering parents aggravate me so much! Like what sort of fragile bubble child can’t handle a discussion about real threats?
Too little too late.
It's weird that there is no response to questions. I don't understand the point. Why am I talking if I'm not going to get an answer?
.....im so confused in the downside to clear backpacks what is he talking about? I'd be for clear lockers at this point
That could be done relatively cheaply... Transparent plastic locker doors
I totally agree we need a major change in mental health in this country but it has nothing to do with mask, im so sick of listen to people crying about mask. The masks will go away soon. Also people who defunded mental health in this country? I know who did.