What a cooperative alternative to capitalism looks like | Climate Warriors Documentary: Olivia
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2022
- The solidarity economy is looking to create strategic alternatives to capitalism in vital industries. We speak to some practitioners to find out more.
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Amazing. I'm glad there's so many like minded people out there.
36 subs?? god damn, this channel's gonna grow
Let's hope!
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Smart people on the right way !
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Cooperation exists and can be a part of the collective knowledge and behavior in a new economic model, but unlike greed that is inherent to many biological species like humans, cooperation has to be taught and learned.
Additionally, it does not solve every problem or situation. Outstanding individuals, selfish ones with social conduct deviations will always exist. Societies need to allow positive attitudes, let them grow, advance. Negative behavior, on the other hand, must be controlled or stopped. This is when democracy, or majority must rule.
"Cooperation exists and can be a part of the collective knowledge and behavior in a new economic model, but unlike greed that is inherent to many biological species like humans, cooperation has to be taught and learned." Actually, cooperation, competition, and greed are ALL learned behaviors. It's just because we grew up in such a selfish, competitive, and materialistic society that surrounds even the youngest children with those cues that greed or competitiveness seem to be innate. But they's not.
@@karlwheatley1244
Wrong!
Any psychologist or sociologist will confirm that competition and greed are inherent to any individual, it is conservation instinct. Some individuals are timid and soft but that doesn’t mean they do not experience greed or desire to win, to dominate. No one teaches them so.
@@billmarrufo Thanks for your reply. "Wrong!
Any psychologist or sociologist will confirm that competition and greed are inherent to any individual, it is conservation instinct." I have a PhD in educational psychology and teach graduate course in human development and a doctoral course in motivation. With all due respect, you are conflating three different things. Although defenders of capitalism have trued to claim that greed is just human nature, this is just a defensive rationalization on their part.
Protecting your own body or getting enough food to eat do not require greed, and some hunter-gatherer tribes even treated competitive behaviors as a minor crime.
Cooperativeness and competitiveness are both learned behaviors that are separate from ambition or drive for mastery. We can see in experimental studies and natural experiments how certain cultures enculturate people more in cooperativeness, competitiveness, or even greed (although greed is very toxic). We also see greed arising when people failed to get their basic psychological needs met consistently in childhood--pursuing wealth, possessions, or competitive advantage then serve as compensatory goals to make up for not getting your needs met. But there is nothing natural or inevitable about that dynamic, especially in a society rich enough to feed, clothe, and house everyone.
However, when a 3-year-old sees Daddy getting very happy when his team wins and very sad when they lose, the child learns to value winning as part of their enculturation.
Take care.
This is the best part of commenting on UA-cam. Advancement in common wisdom when someone with knowledge decides to share.
Could you elaborate on the reasons why modern civilization developed ambition, the concept of private property, the accepted laws of inheritance?
Also, your thoughts about those laws that permit unlimited and in perpetuity inheritance?
Some 4,000 years of that led the world to a situation where 80% or more of the valuable resources and assets belong to, or are controlled by only 1 or 2% of the population.
@@karlwheatley1244 competitive behavior exists in chimps and birds and even plants (although plants obviously don't think), what are you on about
Do these fully alternative community-based economic systems also grow the devices used for their social media activity in non-capitalist, worker-controlled, environmentally focused way?
I don’t think that’s a useful criticism. The idea that you must be 100% isolated from the world you want to change isn’t reasonable or practical, nor is a “solve it 100% or else I think it’s pointless” mentality.
@@richardsatoru It's not my idea that their system has to be "fully alternative". It is what they themselves claim.
@@robertmuller1523 Fair enough, though that’s still a rather strict interpretation of what they mean. I don’t know what you’re trying to prove, perhaps.
This how hunter gathers lived b4 capitalism
Every urban dweller should convert their useless lawns into Gardens!
Wouldn't it be easier to make accounting/finance mandatory in the schools than to get millions of people to agree to some socio-economic system?
Sounds authoritarian
@@DemocraticConfederalist33
Do you mean that mandatory 4 years of English literature is not authoritarian?
What would authoritarianism applied to useless garbage but not to something vital say about Authority? LOL
the issue is the monetary system, not capitalism
"the issue is the monetary system, not capitalism." Speaking as a researcher who has studied this for years, unfortunately, the core values of industrial capitalism are flatly incompatible with having a healthy, fair, and sustainable civilization. IN the long run, capitalism is a life-hostile paradigm.
yes, but you have monetary system in any form of macro economic system, being capitalism or socialism or any other for that matter@@karlwheatley1244
And how is the monetary system related to the economic model? I mean worldwide. In the US, we know the Fed is a very peculiar central bank strongly influenced by private entities, but in general.
@@billmarrufo any model uses currency for exchange which devaluates
@@karlwheatley1244
I like your point and recently began following the idea.
Could you share more details, sources?
Has been tried before. Collectivism i.e communism or socialism does not work.
they were just another form of oppression, they just replaced industrialists and feudal lords with the government. actual worker coorperatives are very successful and they're become increasingly popular in capitalist societies.
I agree there’s too many variables at the scale of the nation. Command economies won’t work anytime soon simply because of the sheer amount of data and complexity involved in modern economies/supply chains. In capitalism market forces drive production and allocate resources, effectively using prices as a signal to consumers and producers. I could see Socialism working on a small scale like a town or in the future as technology progresses and we become a post scarcity society from fully utilizing the resources in space but it’s a heavily flawed system to try to impose on a national level at the moment. A mixed economy with a bit of government intervention is still our best solution
What they are working on isn't communism. It's democratic form of ownership structure within company, not a support of state ownership. The greatest trick the devil's ever pulled is convince the world 'socialism' means state planned economy.
The cooperatives are making profit. It's literally working as we speak.😂Plus your statement is too vague. What does "work" mean?
@@user-uv3li8tk4ryou're wrong. A collective economy doesn't have to be a command economy. Fully Centralized planning doesn't work because of the reason you've stated in your first statement. Decentralized planning however solves this issue since every variable gets to be discovered through all the stakeholders being able to participate in planning. One can even add market dynamics into this system if they doubt the planning so much and it will still be collective and better than capitalism. A mixed Economic model isn't the best. It still leads to the same path of Imperialism and environmental destruction.