Basically you two are like brushing off everything that's happening. "It's Negative people" They lost all of the players that joined during bo6. All of them and more. Doesn't that tell you something? Over a hundred thousand people quit the game man. This isnt just twitter people, its casuals who are sick of the unpolished, manipulation.
Been playing and following cod since 2007. Never seen the community as outraged as it is now. Feels like the beginning of the end for the cod franchise
22:19 thing is Chop, if you want the game to get better or change… it will not change without people speaking up. So people playing other games and speaking up is what needs to happen. If they make a bad game, they should hear that, that’s how life works. Nothing changes until enough people voice their opinions. Hiding yourself from the deserved negativity towards Activision and Treyarch is not helping out the community get better games at all.
💯 I've moved on, I've moved on since last year too. I play way more r6s now(I love it) and I still keep tabs on cod and voice my opinions. I even waited to buy bo6 on Black Friday sales and I still hate it. It sucks on a fundamental level. To top that ai is taking over people's jobs at cod and I CANNOT support that if I want to ever enjoy cod again. But yeah, I swear, if these guys flip and start saying "all the haters don't even play cod" I'm just gonna take the gloves off. You can't have your cake and eat it
This year makes 20 years I have been playing cod. Finest hr was my first. Never seen it this bad or this level of manipulation. I have zero hope for it any more. Updates feel like a 4 year old made them. It’s bad enough I honestly think I am 100% done with cod. Truly miss the old days of cod and fully believe we will never see them again.
For zombies bring on XpertFusion, for MP bring on Marksman. You need someone who actually knows what they’re talking about and can directly compare to older games. Both of these guys are the best for that to bring on. XpertFusion is the zombies voice the community and Treyarch needs to hear right now.
I think a lot of people are just fed up. I lost all hope in multiplayer, but had a little hope for zombies. What little hope I had for zombies was squashed when I saw they brought back armor and other mechanics in BO6. WAW-BO3 will always be peak zombies.
@@sgman173 I think the only players that would complain if it were like BO3 would be the players that can’t get past round 10 with the classic formula. I agree games should evolve, but BO6 and all the other modern interpretations feel more like we have devolved.
@@sgman173 zombies used to be a completely separate game mode with creative choices that detached it from others. Now, the game is more similar to multiplayer/warzone than ever. Something that has brought me a bit of clarity is recognizing that this isn’t the same Treyarch that made WAW-BO3. They have a completely new vision for the game mode now and would rather treat it like a cash cow/cater to the war zone/casual audience, than reserve it as a passion project for the hardcore audience. I’m not sure if you have played the older games, but the differences between the old and the new are night and day.
There is such a huge disconnect between the publishers and the community. The publishers want us to buy their bundles for a game they haven't committed enough content into. Content and quality of life updates should come FIRST, and then cosmetics should come later. When you do the opposite, you make your game look like a cash grab real quick.
I don't think making excuses for the devs or Activision is going to help. If they wanted to promote squid games they should have made sure they game was working properly, or at least made sure the public knew they were working on it
Honestly, Treyarch and Infinity Ward have gotten a lot of undeserved praise the last few years, they could use some harsh reality checks. Big props to Sledgehammer for delivering a fun game through all their rushed development and fight for creative freedom. #SHGROCKS
Man i like both of you very much, I respect your opinions and like your attitudes a lot, but idt the yt guys making critical content is bad. They are just being news outlets at this point and its important for everyone to know who they pay and how theure being treated for it. I play bo6 as often as I can but only zombies. The very real problems everyone is talking about are just. The big problems are inexcusable and everything seems negative for good reason. The game is doing so bad because of the player treatment and manipulation plus the extreme charges they accept for literally every part of the game. Buy you guys Rock and will always have my support regardless.
I agree that the critical content is a good thing for the cod community. The average player doesn’t pay any attention to the lies and manipulation Activision sells us. I only wish that more people fought to return zombies to its former glory and how it used to play/was designed. New zombies just isn’t for me and I wish they would release content for the OG’s that prefer classic zombies.
I hate the mindset that these creators have… they all make the same videos and they all bring up the same points but because people feel the same way and they’re actively seeking that content they try to use that as a way to discredit them all to then say the exact same thing as said “rage baiters” 😂 it’s pathetic
Sadly I’m a casual player so none of this stuff bothers me, I just take the game for what it is, until there is a better alternative, and a good wave based zombie, then I’ll probably keep playing cod. I only play for zombies anyways, and when I play mp it’s with my friends who are casuals who only have like an hr or twoto play a day
Game is literally designed to sell $20 plus bundles rather than being fun to play. Damn shame because the Omni movement with better maps and hit registration and we would have had ourselves something decent. Season 1 isn’t over and I’m already playing other stuff been playing cod since MW2 2009. This is still a better game than ghosts, vanguard, and MW 22 but this current model isn’t sustainable and more players will leave if things don’t change soon
Bo6 is a dub for me.. "more" of a classic zombies experience. Layered prestiges lit... Ans the streamline headshots are nice . Would like too see higher ttk qnd specialists added for future Seasons.. buy over all its what coldeat sbould have been if it wasnt for covid
The episodes aren’t consistent enough. We NEED more consistency!! 🔥 (PS chopper needs a new cam, he looks like he has an AI filter this episode lol all love)
Bring on XpertFusion, he has the most needed zombies opinions to be heard in the community. Or bring on Lex. You need someone like them who constantly play the older games and can directly compare to the newer and are able to recognize and realize the issues with zombies. Dalek doesn’t really give his opinion much, Milo hasn’t played most maps since they came out so he can’t really compare bo6 to prior games, Pizza and Noah are oblivious to the issues.
COD needs to consider doing something similar to Rainbow 6 Siege Operation Health where they spend a month only focusing on massively overhauling the crappy issues that each update keep breaking. If player count is already as bad as everyone is saying what do they have to lose in fixing as many bugs as they can instead of making a crappy Squid Game LTM or more skins
Once people feel like they are being manipulated and scammed.. and they have actual things to point at to suggest as such... morality and kid gloves go out of the window. The thing thats truly is frustrating is that the things that we are asking for as a community are things that they can fix IMMEDIATELY. We understand that making creative maps can be difficult. We understand that its tough catching cheaters. But when you add that with the EXTREMELY manipulative matchmaking...and the shit servers, now you are going to have a problem.
I play hearthstone which is another activision/blizzard IP, and they have a great community manager, they hired a longtime podcaster just like this who keeps in touch with the community all the time, so COD or activision need to hire a proper community manager
Activision is going down hill very fast I’ve lost so much interest in CoD all the issues with cod like bad maps bad servers SBMM EOMM cheaters no point in saving this franchise any more
Got to iri on multiplayer ranked about 5 weeks ago now and wanted to go to top 250 but stopped playing the game since then because of hackers. You guys dont seem to understand how unplayable it is... Literally most games I was getting hackers so I stopped because its a huge waste of my time. Might be back to cod one day if they get a working anti cheat. Id take 2 hackers in 10 games. I was getting like 2 out of 3 games hackers
None of us have as big of voice as you youtubers. If you guys don't shine light on the BS Activision is feeding us then it will just continue to happen. I dont think enough people will stop buying the game but maybe if we are able to combine it with a bunch of negative press they'll get the message. I don't understand how people can see whats going on and just pretend nothing is wrong. It drives me crazy.... it's idiotic. Like holy shit we all come and watch, giving you a voice, do us all a favor and use it. Activision and trearch gave us Scummy tactics, straight up lies, micro transaction galore, and a broken game.
When has cod UA-camrs complaining ever changed anything serious. There’s an echo chamber of negativity that people think will completely change the series when that never has and never will happen.
No amount of criticism from UA-camrs will change their bottom line. As long as there are UA-camrs that get payed by activision to prop up their slop, they could give two shits if they get criticized by other UA-camrs. Activision is in the business of making MONEY, and their games cost millions of dollars. The only way to recoup the investment from each game every year is low effort in game purchases and lame collab game modes. It’s just what it is. Unfortunately it will keep getting worse. Just take the game for what it is, if you can’t, play something else
@@understanding77 Activision might not care, but Treyarch does. They have listened to UA-camrs many times in the past. For example just this year all of them wanted the swords to hit multiple zombies - and that happened. Just takes enough people speaking up.
Call of duty is never going to go anywhere Activision pays the streamers and UA-camrs to play their game so nothing is going to change next year though for me it's going to be different cuz I'm not buying the next cod I'm done which sucks in zombies is not as good it won't never be as good cuz they have to make a call every year meaning that the game will never change and it's always going to be garbage they just care about your wallet but
Reducing Recoil for Controller Users: In COD, recoil is a significant challenge when using weapons. If recoil is reduced for controller users, aiming becomes easier, compensating for the lack of precision that comes with using an analog stick. This could reduce the gap between mouse and controller users, especially in situations that require rapid fire (spray) on targets. Slowing Sensitivity When Aiming at a Target: This would help reduce exaggerated movements when aiming, making player movements more precise when trying to target a fixed or fast-moving target. This adds more depth to the gameplay, as players will need to improve their accuracy using the analog stick instead of relying on Aim Assist. Activating Aim Assist Only for Beginners: Providing Aim Assist for beginners in COD would be very helpful, especially in cross-play modes where controller players face mouse users. "Beginners" can be defined based on their K/D ratio or level, allowing new players to gradually improve without feeling frustrated. Once a player reaches a certain skill level (e.g., 1.5 K/D or higher), Aim Assist would be gradually reduced.
Haven’t played since ranked dropped. The hackers completely ruined the experience for my entire friend group and myself. PC crossplay needs to be disabled like Marvel Rivals already.
Game is disgraceful to the name black ops zombies sucks I uninstalled the game after map one completing the Ee , worst cod ever ww2 zombies was way better
I’m a MP COD person, and mainly TDM (PS5). I think BO6 is a great game, and I usually prefer Infinity Ward COD’s, definitely not a Treyarch fanboy. (Happy to say I am a COD fanboy though). However the main issue I have - and it’s a huge one - is the server connectivity or hit reg or lag. I’m no expert so I don’t know what it is, but it changes from game to game, and often from minute to minute inside a single game. Far too often it takes me 12-16 bullets to kill, whereas I’m dead on “hearing/feeling” the second bullet from an enemy (although the kill cam shows differently). I have good internet. Maps: fine to me Cheaters: don’t see any bad ones on PS5 TDM Having to pay for the game and then selling £20 bundles: doesn’t bother me in the slightest. It costs Activision A LOT of money to develop an annual game, so I’m ok buying it at current price. Bundles are discretionary. Buy them if you want, I choose not to for various reasons. Oh, and the battle pass does pay for itself TDawg. I bought the first one in MW19 and haven’t paid for one since.
Great stuff! One of the biggest issues with Call of Duty today is certain content creators, especially those with ties to Activision. Back in the day, plenty of creators posted daily videos, keeping people engaged. But since COD has been on a steady decline-I've personally been done with it since Black Ops 2-those frequent uploads have dwindled. Now, some of the bigger creators barely post once every 3-4 days, only scratching the surface of COD’s major problems. Their discussions are frustrating, filled with misplaced optimism while ignoring the real issues. Worse, some even mock smaller creators who dare to speak the truth about the game's flaws. It’s absurd: these prominent creators, likely bound by NDAs with Activision, criticize those who upload daily and directly address what's wrong. How do these smaller creators maintain their daily uploads and still get views? Because they aren’t restricted by corporate agreements-they’re free to talk about the real problems. For anyone familiar with COD’s manipulative practices since 2019, this isn’t news. One relatively active creator even participated in a 2021 debate, exposing issues like engagement-optimized matchmaking (EOMM), slot-machine-style algorithms, and hidden server-side systems. These "COD shills" are a big reason why this franchise managed to stay afloat for so long despite its declining quality. Now, as the series sinks deeper, they’re still in denial, desperately clinging to hope.
I don’t fully agree about the Vanguard Zombies part. Yes, it was bad, but you could still play Cold War or any previous version before that. With Warzone, we don’t have that option-we’re forced to play the current game.
At what point does CoD go full free to play on all Multiplayer and Zombies. It’s gotta be a matter of “When” and not “If” right? And just charge the $ for the campaign
I want to push for Activision to make character customization more in depth. Basically like Insurgency: Sandstorm. Where you can customize every piece of armor, your character’s facial features and skin color, patches, ammo belts, backpacks, helmets. Similar to WW2
the thing is, COD has been hated on big a huge percent of the playerbase since around 2013. i think it's just harder for the average casual player that buys the game every year to play for a couple hours a week with his buddies, to get an idea for how ESPECIALLY bad it is this year. i'm sure all the casuals are seeing is just another game with some new movement tech and shitty AI "art" unlockables. if the community can take these less obvious problems on a mainstream level (which i think is starting to happen, what with the articles about BO6 losing half it's playerbase in 3 months) THEN you'll start to see some change.
2:49 Outrage merchants have taken over, the echo chamber is almost cartoonish. Everyone is angry, but no one offers a solution...just more outrage, the shit has gotten to where it all sounds the same.
All of my friends and I have gone back to play MWIII. I find BO6 search and destroy to be abysmal and can't really stand to play respawn modes. Warzone is possibly at the worst low we've ever had, even lower than the OG season five hack fest and the Caldera Christmas dumpsterfire. Zombies has been the only thing I log onto the game to play consistently. Even that, Activision is screwing up by not rectifying the situation with the voice actors. I'll play the new map, I even hope it's a banger, but the soulless replacement of beloved characters will be all people remember from this game if they don't course correct. All in all, I don't necessarily think any of these issues are directly tied to lack of support from Treyarch/Raven but rather are the consequences of decisions made and pennies pinched by Activision and Microsoft executives.
@ryanclute1377 Even small stuff in S&D like having to pull up the leader board to see how many people are left alive is a massive step backwards compared to the last 3 titles which had that feature built into the hud. I think there are maybe 2 maps that search plays well. Most of the maps in the game are small maps meant to replicate that Shipment 24/7 rapid spawn death simulator.
BO6 mechanically is the best in years, but because of every issue with CoD right now it's definitely not the best in a while. However, I will say CoD 100% is dying with how things are going right now. With Steam dropping almost half its players last month and 20% of that right now isn't a good sign. Not only that, but CoD content performing worse doesn't help
5:16 disagree. Bo6 is a bad game. Warzone is dead. Zombies is still warzone zombies with half-baked maps, way too short setup quests and main quests, warzone HUD, horrible linear mechanics that greatly hinder replayability, nobody cares about the crew, 90% of side quests are lame, 14 hit down on round 1 with no perk limit. The mode has no soul and no replayability. Boss fights are decent that’s about it. If Treyarch makes a boss rush mode like IW did that’s the only reason I would return to this game in the future. Even if a good map comes out because of the mechanics and insane short setup quests, the gameplay loop is not replayable or enjoyable. Went back to bo3 weeks ago. And MP only is enjoyable for people who like brain rot shipment 24/7. The maps are absolute trash so small and hectic, the guns are all lame no good iron sight ARs and there’s just not enough of them, no pick 10 means there’s grenades and stuns constantly, the perks are very unbalanced, mini map is small, streaks get taken down so fast, no looping streaks, voice chat bans, unicorns running around, trash servers, bugs everywhere dead silence still doesn’t work in S&D and can’t even get match bonus, hackers galore. Omnimovement is good, but TACsprint shouldn’t exist with it. I believe TDawg enjoys the movement which is fair I think Omnimovement is good, but the rest of the MP is trash. Bo6 is not a good game. Besides Omnimovement, progression, and decent boss fights bo6 has brought nothing new, innovative, or good to the franchise. 4 years for this game, it 100% deserves the hate it’s getting. They had all the time in the world to make it.
correct 100 percent.. i think these 2 dudes dont even play any mode at all.. WZ is dead only cheaters left and few noobs who play 1 game in week... i will like to see rank of these 2 dudes or KD or number of eliminations in any mode... they are just COD shills with no skill in game... BO6 is worst MP in WZ era and WZ is dead game....this is worst podcast about cod i saw on youtube..
@ they definitely play Chop is prestige master and TDawg doesn’t prestige lol. But they are choosing to ignore/hide themselves from the large negative sentiment and issues of bo6. They mention “there are issues but” like they glaze over that statement. This does not help the community get better games at all. The creators/platforms that point out the issues are the ones that can help make a change if enough people do the same. So Chop and T wishing the creators to stop making negative content is not what the community needs. Everyone doesn’t need to be negative 24/7, but glazing over the issues and not taking the time to explain them is of no help for the community.
Would love to see InkTV or exclusive ace. Both give very non biased opinions and have been pumping out content recently. Finally get to see Chopper in 4k 😂👏🏼
Hit Master prestige with dark matter and when it came to playing the game normally I just lost all motivation to play. SBMM and just the game being literally in pieces made me drop the game. Like i wasted my last 3 weeks for what? All 7 of my boys stopped playing before prestige 4. I genuinely wish i never bought the game. In fact i sold my activision account because I know I will not be playing any future cod. Verdansk coming back is like less interesting to me than standing in the corner of my room for an hour
Completely agree with Tdawg when he discussed about making cod free to play with the service model the game clearly wants to be it only makes sense. for me it comes across insulting when you have to pay full price and then on top of that get half a battle pass for the same price as a full battle pass in Fortnite and activation have progressively gotten worse overtime in MW2019 there was just one version of the battle pass and enough cod points to renew the battle pass each season I think a big portion of the player base has caught on and are fed up of being taken advantage of it’s a shame when there’s an actual good game there this year.
Oooor, if I spend $70+ on a game, then I get to complain. Historically, COD players dont play other games much. Theres nothing else im interested in at the moment. I get the perverse incentive creators have to dump on the game.
I know it sucks to see constantly negative opinions on a game or franchise you like, but as you said, ur mostly playing older COD titles. The new ones either have a bunch of bad stuff or feel soulless and unrefined, while the only problem with the older ones is that they're not well supported, if at all, but everything else within the game is better. COD 4 MW till i wanna say around BO3 were the best all around games, with the occasional 'flop', but after BO4 and cold war the games just felt like they started going downhill. Even if you don't see the negative press on social media, you may experience on your own just playing. For example why do i have to constantly experience glitched stuff in BO6? Why do i have to download community made patches to be able to play older titles? The people who are complaining so much instead of "trying something else" do it because they want to love the game.
Cod fans are alot like cowboys fans. This is our year they get hyped. Couple months in oh this is trash by the end of the year they are complaining they are done and before you know it everyone hyped again
As a fan of COD since COD4 and a fan of you both, I agree with the discretions of going the negative bashing route. BO6 mechanically is a good game. They can update it with better maps and get all the bugs out. On the other hand, the micro transactions are totally out of hand. All in all, great episode guys 👍🏽
They had 4 years to make this game. Seems like you have very low standards, but most of the community expects a better game with that development time.
@@ryanclute1377standards are pretty high being a fan for almost 18 years. I’ve played all CODs except COD 1-3. We can all agree that MECHANICALLY (Omnimovement, gunplay, etc.) BO6 is good. The hitreg, packet bursts, outdated servers, over-the-top skins and the worst launch maps of all time brings BO6 way down. Out of all the Black Ops games including WAW, BO6 is like #6 (Tied with BO4 at the bottom of the series). BO6 is not Treyarch’s best work at all. Only the innovation of Omnimovement is Treyarch-like.
This game is dead…the franchise continues to make promises they fail to meet. No communication. Lack of updates.(don’t care if they have vacation, shouldn’t have pushed out a broken game). If you still playing the game, you don’t watch UA-cam or TikTok or you bad and with SBMM/EOMM you don’t notice how bad the game actually is
"I just feel like I go on twitter and it's negative" Yeah. That's twitter. But you're confusing negative people right now with the most unstable warzone experience to date. Watch an episode of Pullze Check, 39 issues were discussed and you guys should be keeping up with what's really wrong with the game if you have a podcast that is entirely based on this franchise. The game is broken (mainly warzone)
9:40 "It's not like the devs have some magical switch to turn off cheating.." Oh my god this is just beyond infuriating. Shows that you didnt do ANY research or homework for this podcast man. Let me fill you and anyone else who doesn't know yet in. Ricochet wasn't enabled at a kernal level for Black Ops 6 and for Warzone 4. Why?? Because Both of these games were developed on an older version of the engine and the developers didnt have the time to implement it. Jeesus, a ranked dev was on another podcast. You two seriously need to study what you're talking about.
50:00 you should bring Xclusiveace on also my take on what's happening to call of duty is that CoD is suffering from the problems it's had since MW2019. Cheating, frustrating matchmaking, inconsistent netcode, shadowbans, and silence from the devs. The difference with BO6 is that it's actually a really good game. so you have a lot of old players, new players, and game pass players enjoying CoD but still really frustrated with the core issues and that's why we're seeing an explosion of negativity
Basically you two are like brushing off everything that's happening.
"It's Negative people"
They lost all of the players that joined during bo6. All of them and more.
Doesn't that tell you something? Over a hundred thousand people quit the game man. This isnt just twitter people, its casuals who are sick of the unpolished, manipulation.
Been playing and following cod since 2007. Never seen the community as outraged as it is now. Feels like the beginning of the end for the cod franchise
The beginning of the end? LOL Where you been bro?
I hear this every year i swear
i hate to say it but weve had this happen 4-5 times in cods life cycle.
Bro wasn’t here during Vanguard/MWII
@@xJoeyScoopsEvery single year lmao
As somebody who has max 4-8h a week to play bo6, it’s crazy to see how many people do not enjoy it anymore. For me it’s such a fantastic game
It's designed to be that way. They do a form of manipulation in the matchmaking
Nero Cinema. Would love to hear an old school COD youtubers perspective
😂😂😂😂 dude it’s negative because gamers are mad … not worried about streaming … they have job and want games to be better .
22:19 thing is Chop, if you want the game to get better or change… it will not change without people speaking up. So people playing other games and speaking up is what needs to happen. If they make a bad game, they should hear that, that’s how life works. Nothing changes until enough people voice their opinions. Hiding yourself from the deserved negativity towards Activision and Treyarch is not helping out the community get better games at all.
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I've moved on, I've moved on since last year too. I play way more r6s now(I love it) and I still keep tabs on cod and voice my opinions. I even waited to buy bo6 on Black Friday sales and I still hate it. It sucks on a fundamental level. To top that ai is taking over people's jobs at cod and I CANNOT support that if I want to ever enjoy cod again.
But yeah, I swear, if these guys flip and start saying "all the haters don't even play cod" I'm just gonna take the gloves off. You can't have your cake and eat it
Bo6 isn’t a bad game it’s just Cod in general, isn’t as fun to me anymore. I’m just patiently waiting for GTA 😂
30:56 Chop, the reason why that document they made about sbmm didn’t solve it is also because THEY ACTIVELY LIED IN THAT DOCUMENT ABOUT HOW IT WORKS
This year makes 20 years I have been playing cod. Finest hr was my first. Never seen it this bad or this level of manipulation. I have zero hope for it any more. Updates feel like a 4 year old made them. It’s bad enough I honestly think I am 100% done with cod.
Truly miss the old days of cod and fully believe we will never see them again.
Same here friend I’m done with CoD too been happy playing better games
For zombies bring on XpertFusion, for MP bring on Marksman. You need someone who actually knows what they’re talking about and can directly compare to older games. Both of these guys are the best for that to bring on. XpertFusion is the zombies voice the community and Treyarch needs to hear right now.
I second Xpert Fusion. He's a great creator
I think a lot of people are just fed up. I lost all hope in multiplayer, but had a little hope for zombies. What little hope I had for zombies was squashed when I saw they brought back armor and other mechanics in BO6. WAW-BO3 will always be peak zombies.
Yep same
Games have to evolve. People would be complaining if it was just another BO3 game.
@@sgman173 I think the only players that would complain if it were like BO3 would be the players that can’t get past round 10 with the classic formula. I agree games should evolve, but BO6 and all the other modern interpretations feel more like we have devolved.
@@ProphetOfDoubt in what ways have we devolved? Theres more aspects and nuance compared to older games, they even brought back gobbles lol.
@@sgman173 zombies used to be a completely separate game mode with creative choices that detached it from others. Now, the game is more similar to multiplayer/warzone than ever. Something that has brought me a bit of clarity is recognizing that this isn’t the same Treyarch that made WAW-BO3. They have a completely new vision for the game mode now and would rather treat it like a cash cow/cater to the war zone/casual audience, than reserve it as a passion project for the hardcore audience. I’m not sure if you have played the older games, but the differences between the old and the new are night and day.
There is such a huge disconnect between the publishers and the community. The publishers want us to buy their bundles for a game they haven't committed enough content into. Content and quality of life updates should come FIRST, and then cosmetics should come later. When you do the opposite, you make your game look like a cash grab real quick.
Yup yup
I don't think making excuses for the devs or Activision is going to help. If they wanted to promote squid games they should have made sure they game was working properly, or at least made sure the public knew they were working on it
Honestly, Treyarch and Infinity Ward have gotten a lot of undeserved praise the last few years, they could use some harsh reality checks.
Big props to Sledgehammer for delivering a fun game through all their rushed development and fight for creative freedom. #SHGROCKS
I'd agree but I think the reason mwii had a lack of content was due to Infinity Ward helping SHGs make the mwiii expansion.
Man i like both of you very much, I respect your opinions and like your attitudes a lot, but idt the yt guys making critical content is bad. They are just being news outlets at this point and its important for everyone to know who they pay and how theure being treated for it. I play bo6 as often as I can but only zombies. The very real problems everyone is talking about are just. The big problems are inexcusable and everything seems negative for good reason. The game is doing so bad because of the player treatment and manipulation plus the extreme charges they accept for literally every part of the game. Buy you guys Rock and will always have my support regardless.
Because they are snowflakes who don’t wanna admit that the game is dying and we are being easily manipulated by activision and shit that simple
I agree that the critical content is a good thing for the cod community. The average player doesn’t pay any attention to the lies and manipulation Activision sells us. I only wish that more people fought to return zombies to its former glory and how it used to play/was designed. New zombies just isn’t for me and I wish they would release content for the OG’s that prefer classic zombies.
I hate the mindset that these creators have… they all make the same videos and they all bring up the same points but because people feel the same way and they’re actively seeking that content they try to use that as a way to discredit them all to then say the exact same thing as said “rage baiters” 😂 it’s pathetic
@@ProphetOfDoubt100% agree
Sadly I’m a casual player so none of this stuff bothers me, I just take the game for what it is, until there is a better alternative, and a good wave based zombie, then I’ll probably keep playing cod. I only play for zombies anyways, and when I play mp it’s with my friends who are casuals who only have like an hr or twoto play a day
Game is literally designed to sell $20 plus bundles rather than being fun to play. Damn shame because the Omni movement with better maps and hit registration and we would have had ourselves something decent. Season 1 isn’t over and I’m already playing other stuff been playing cod since MW2 2009. This is still a better game than ghosts, vanguard, and MW 22 but this current model isn’t sustainable and more players will leave if things don’t change soon
Bo6 is a dub for me.. "more" of a classic zombies experience. Layered prestiges lit... Ans the streamline headshots are nice . Would like too see higher ttk qnd specialists added for future Seasons.. buy over all its what coldeat sbould have been if it wasnt for covid
Bring TheExclusiveAce, Doughnuts, and/or Milo
XpertFusion as well
Good people
XpertFusion 100%
ExclusiveAce would be an interesting one
Definitely Xpert Fusion
If everybody just ignored the state of the game and played other games then nothing will ever change! You have to call em out on their crap
Exactly
Anti-Cheat is the ONLY issue in the game
the rest are skill issues coming from a Iri player
“skill issue” says the guy who’s using cronus zen to get that iridescent rank smfh 😂
The episodes aren’t consistent enough. We NEED more consistency!! 🔥 (PS chopper needs a new cam, he looks like he has an AI filter this episode lol all love)
Bring on XpertFusion, he has the most needed zombies opinions to be heard in the community. Or bring on Lex. You need someone like them who constantly play the older games and can directly compare to the newer and are able to recognize and realize the issues with zombies. Dalek doesn’t really give his opinion much, Milo hasn’t played most maps since they came out so he can’t really compare bo6 to prior games, Pizza and Noah are oblivious to the issues.
Noah and Dalek don’t criticize much because they don’t want to stop getting invited to COD events by Activision. They’re both untrustworthy
I'd really love to hear from some current or ex cod pros.. like the experiences they had within the league.. and not just from the US. Keep cooking 🔥🔥
COD needs to consider doing something similar to Rainbow 6 Siege Operation Health where they spend a month only focusing on massively overhauling the crappy issues that each update keep breaking. If player count is already as bad as everyone is saying what do they have to lose in fixing as many bugs as they can instead of making a crappy Squid Game LTM or more skins
Yea but by the time they fix these problems the next game will be out and we will retread the same issues :P gotta love the cod cycle
Once people feel like they are being manipulated and scammed.. and they have actual things to point at to suggest as such... morality and kid gloves go out of the window. The thing thats truly is frustrating is that the things that we are asking for as a community are things that they can fix IMMEDIATELY. We understand that making creative maps can be difficult. We understand that its tough catching cheaters. But when you add that with the EXTREMELY manipulative matchmaking...and the shit servers, now you are going to have a problem.
You’re podcasts have helped me so much during the zombies camo grind 🙏
I play hearthstone which is another activision/blizzard IP, and they have a great community manager, they hired a longtime podcaster just like this who keeps in touch with the community all the time, so COD or activision need to hire a proper community manager
Invite the Terrible Panda!!
Do you think they can fix the issues and turn things around or is Activision going downhill?
Activision is going down hill very fast I’ve lost so much interest in CoD all the issues with cod like bad maps bad servers SBMM EOMM cheaters no point in saving this franchise any more
Got to iri on multiplayer ranked about 5 weeks ago now and wanted to go to top 250 but stopped playing the game since then because of hackers. You guys dont seem to understand how unplayable it is... Literally most games I was getting hackers so I stopped because its a huge waste of my time. Might be back to cod one day if they get a working anti cheat. Id take 2 hackers in 10 games. I was getting like 2 out of 3 games hackers
5:00 in "we are gonna get a new cod next year"
Yeah thats why people are upset. The bad keeps getting worse and the good is being ignored.
None of us have as big of voice as you youtubers. If you guys don't shine light on the BS Activision is feeding us then it will just continue to happen. I dont think enough people will stop buying the game but maybe if we are able to combine it with a bunch of negative press they'll get the message. I don't understand how people can see whats going on and just pretend nothing is wrong. It drives me crazy.... it's idiotic. Like holy shit we all come and watch, giving you a voice, do us all a favor and use it. Activision and trearch gave us Scummy tactics, straight up lies, micro transaction galore, and a broken game.
Exactly
When has cod UA-camrs complaining ever changed anything serious. There’s an echo chamber of negativity that people think will completely change the series when that never has and never will happen.
@@Xtreme-cg8ss actually many times
No amount of criticism from UA-camrs will change their bottom line. As long as there are UA-camrs that get payed by activision to prop up their slop, they could give two shits if they get criticized by other UA-camrs. Activision is in the business of making MONEY, and their games cost millions of dollars. The only way to recoup the investment from each game every year is low effort in game purchases and lame collab game modes. It’s just what it is. Unfortunately it will keep getting worse. Just take the game for what it is, if you can’t, play something else
@@understanding77 Activision might not care, but Treyarch does. They have listened to UA-camrs many times in the past. For example just this year all of them wanted the swords to hit multiple zombies - and that happened. Just takes enough people speaking up.
Anyone heard of SBMM or EOMM over here?
I love BO6 but cmon guys,talk about the elephant in the room lol
But honestly JC backfire could be a good one you can bring on but he's probably busy though.
Call of duty is never going to go anywhere Activision pays the streamers and UA-camrs to play their game so nothing is going to change next year though for me it's going to be different cuz I'm not buying the next cod I'm done which sucks in zombies is not as good it won't never be as good cuz they have to make a call every year meaning that the game will never change and it's always going to be garbage they just care about your wallet but
Great work guys! Loved the episode as always. I reckon getting Hunter TV on the pod could be cool for an hour. I’m down for any guest tho
I have never really watched any of his videos until a few weeks ago. He is probably the best humor centric CoD content creator!
Reducing Recoil for Controller Users: In COD, recoil is a significant challenge when using weapons. If recoil is reduced for controller users, aiming becomes easier, compensating for the lack of precision that comes with using an analog stick.
This could reduce the gap between mouse and controller users, especially in situations that require rapid fire (spray) on targets.
Slowing Sensitivity When Aiming at a Target: This would help reduce exaggerated movements when aiming, making player movements more precise when trying to target a fixed or fast-moving target.
This adds more depth to the gameplay, as players will need to improve their accuracy using the analog stick instead of relying on Aim Assist.
Activating Aim Assist Only for Beginners: Providing Aim Assist for beginners in COD would be very helpful, especially in cross-play modes where controller players face mouse users.
"Beginners" can be defined based on their K/D ratio or level, allowing new players to gradually improve without feeling frustrated.
Once a player reaches a certain skill level (e.g., 1.5 K/D or higher), Aim Assist would be gradually reduced.
Bring on eight thoughts his so funny
Haven’t played since ranked dropped. The hackers completely ruined the experience for my entire friend group and myself. PC crossplay needs to be disabled like Marvel Rivals already.
Game is disgraceful to the name black ops zombies sucks I uninstalled the game after map one completing the Ee , worst cod ever ww2 zombies was way better
I’m a MP COD person, and mainly TDM (PS5). I think BO6 is a great game, and I usually prefer Infinity Ward COD’s, definitely not a Treyarch fanboy. (Happy to say I am a COD fanboy though).
However the main issue I have - and it’s a huge one - is the server connectivity or hit reg or lag. I’m no expert so I don’t know what it is, but it changes from game to game, and often from minute to minute inside a single game. Far too often it takes me 12-16 bullets to kill, whereas I’m dead on “hearing/feeling” the second bullet from an enemy (although the kill cam shows differently). I have good internet.
Maps: fine to me
Cheaters: don’t see any bad ones on PS5 TDM
Having to pay for the game and then selling £20 bundles: doesn’t bother me in the slightest. It costs Activision A LOT of money to develop an annual game, so I’m ok buying it at current price. Bundles are discretionary. Buy them if you want, I choose not to for various reasons.
Oh, and the battle pass does pay for itself TDawg. I bought the first one in MW19 and haven’t paid for one since.
Great stuff! One of the biggest issues with Call of Duty today is certain content creators, especially those with ties to Activision. Back in the day, plenty of creators posted daily videos, keeping people engaged. But since COD has been on a steady decline-I've personally been done with it since Black Ops 2-those frequent uploads have dwindled.
Now, some of the bigger creators barely post once every 3-4 days, only scratching the surface of COD’s major problems. Their discussions are frustrating, filled with misplaced optimism while ignoring the real issues. Worse, some even mock smaller creators who dare to speak the truth about the game's flaws.
It’s absurd: these prominent creators, likely bound by NDAs with Activision, criticize those who upload daily and directly address what's wrong. How do these smaller creators maintain their daily uploads and still get views? Because they aren’t restricted by corporate agreements-they’re free to talk about the real problems.
For anyone familiar with COD’s manipulative practices since 2019, this isn’t news. One relatively active creator even participated in a 2021 debate, exposing issues like engagement-optimized matchmaking (EOMM), slot-machine-style algorithms, and hidden server-side systems.
These "COD shills" are a big reason why this franchise managed to stay afloat for so long despite its declining quality. Now, as the series sinks deeper, they’re still in denial, desperately clinging to hope.
You do realize tdawg is very connected to activision right
@ yea that’s the point I was trying to make, hope you realized that.
what a fantastic episode
I don’t fully agree about the Vanguard Zombies part. Yes, it was bad, but you could still play Cold War or any previous version before that. With Warzone, we don’t have that option-we’re forced to play the current game.
CHOP.......................PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE Get a new camera! Your video needs to match how awesome your audio is!
Nevertheless, great pod, boys!
He doesn’t need a new camera. He actually exists within an alternate dimension that only runs at 720p and time travels to our dimension (4k).
At what point does CoD go full free to play on all Multiplayer and Zombies. It’s gotta be a matter of “When” and not “If” right? And just charge the $ for the campaign
nah far away from dying but on the other hand Warzone is end of era
I want to push for Activision to make character customization more in depth. Basically like Insurgency: Sandstorm. Where you can customize every piece of armor, your character’s facial features and skin color, patches, ammo belts, backpacks, helmets. Similar to WW2
30:07 remember Ashton Williams?...
Maybe this will spark change. Change in the right direction. One can only hope.
the thing is, COD has been hated on big a huge percent of the playerbase since around 2013. i think it's just harder for the average casual player that buys the game every year to play for a couple hours a week with his buddies, to get an idea for how ESPECIALLY bad it is this year. i'm sure all the casuals are seeing is just another game with some new movement tech and shitty AI "art" unlockables. if the community can take these less obvious problems on a mainstream level (which i think is starting to happen, what with the articles about BO6 losing half it's playerbase in 3 months) THEN you'll start to see some change.
Interview MrTLexify
2:49 Outrage merchants have taken over, the echo chamber is almost cartoonish. Everyone is angry, but no one offers a solution...just more outrage, the shit has gotten to where it all sounds the same.
How can we get chopper a upgrade to his camera?
Remove Tac Sprint, nerf AA, remove warzone, remove SBMM, remove disbanding lobbies than CoD might have a chance to come back.
Hopefully Milo is one of the next guests 🧇🤞
YES PLEASE
I second that! The 1 dude I really wana see. BT was another.
He’d be good for positive content for sure
All of my friends and I have gone back to play MWIII. I find BO6 search and destroy to be abysmal and can't really stand to play respawn modes. Warzone is possibly at the worst low we've ever had, even lower than the OG season five hack fest and the Caldera Christmas dumpsterfire. Zombies has been the only thing I log onto the game to play consistently. Even that, Activision is screwing up by not rectifying the situation with the voice actors. I'll play the new map, I even hope it's a banger, but the soulless replacement of beloved characters will be all people remember from this game if they don't course correct. All in all, I don't necessarily think any of these issues are directly tied to lack of support from Treyarch/Raven but rather are the consequences of decisions made and pennies pinched by Activision and Microsoft executives.
Dead silence or match bonus still doesn’t work in S&D!
@ryanclute1377 Even small stuff in S&D like having to pull up the leader board to see how many people are left alive is a massive step backwards compared to the last 3 titles which had that feature built into the hud. I think there are maybe 2 maps that search plays well. Most of the maps in the game are small maps meant to replicate that Shipment 24/7 rapid spawn death simulator.
@@dr.blunce6491 yep
If you want someone for MP, MARKSMAN is you’re guy
BO6 mechanically is the best in years, but because of every issue with CoD right now it's definitely not the best in a while. However, I will say CoD 100% is dying with how things are going right now. With Steam dropping almost half its players last month and 20% of that right now isn't a good sign. Not only that, but CoD content performing worse doesn't help
5:16 disagree. Bo6 is a bad game. Warzone is dead. Zombies is still warzone zombies with half-baked maps, way too short setup quests and main quests, warzone HUD, horrible linear mechanics that greatly hinder replayability, nobody cares about the crew, 90% of side quests are lame, 14 hit down on round 1 with no perk limit. The mode has no soul and no replayability. Boss fights are decent that’s about it. If Treyarch makes a boss rush mode like IW did that’s the only reason I would return to this game in the future. Even if a good map comes out because of the mechanics and insane short setup quests, the gameplay loop is not replayable or enjoyable. Went back to bo3 weeks ago. And MP only is enjoyable for people who like brain rot shipment 24/7. The maps are absolute trash so small and hectic, the guns are all lame no good iron sight ARs and there’s just not enough of them, no pick 10 means there’s grenades and stuns constantly, the perks are very unbalanced, mini map is small, streaks get taken down so fast, no looping streaks, voice chat bans, unicorns running around, trash servers, bugs everywhere dead silence still doesn’t work in S&D and can’t even get match bonus, hackers galore. Omnimovement is good, but TACsprint shouldn’t exist with it. I believe TDawg enjoys the movement which is fair I think Omnimovement is good, but the rest of the MP is trash. Bo6 is not a good game. Besides Omnimovement, progression, and decent boss fights bo6 has brought nothing new, innovative, or good to the franchise. 4 years for this game, it 100% deserves the hate it’s getting. They had all the time in the world to make it.
correct 100 percent.. i think these 2 dudes dont even play any mode at all.. WZ is dead only cheaters left and few noobs who play 1 game in week... i will like to see rank of these 2 dudes or KD or number of eliminations in any mode... they are just COD shills with no skill in game... BO6 is worst MP in WZ era and WZ is dead game....this is worst podcast about cod i saw on youtube..
@ they definitely play Chop is prestige master and TDawg doesn’t prestige lol. But they are choosing to ignore/hide themselves from the large negative sentiment and issues of bo6. They mention “there are issues but” like they glaze over that statement. This does not help the community get better games at all. The creators/platforms that point out the issues are the ones that can help make a change if enough people do the same. So Chop and T wishing the creators to stop making negative content is not what the community needs. Everyone doesn’t need to be negative 24/7, but glazing over the issues and not taking the time to explain them is of no help for the community.
What’s up guys!!!
I think it is, people have played the same thing over and over and it's getting boring now.
Would love to see InkTV or exclusive ace. Both give very non biased opinions and have been pumping out content recently. Finally get to see Chopper in 4k 😂👏🏼
Hit Master prestige with dark matter and when it came to playing the game normally I just lost all motivation to play. SBMM and just the game being literally in pieces made me drop the game. Like i wasted my last 3 weeks for what? All 7 of my boys stopped playing before prestige 4. I genuinely wish i never bought the game. In fact i sold my activision account because I know I will not be playing any future cod. Verdansk coming back is like less interesting to me than standing in the corner of my room for an hour
Oh man I’ve been waiting on a new podcast just got off work LFG
Completely agree with Tdawg when he discussed about making cod free to play with the service model the game clearly wants to be it only makes sense. for me it comes across insulting when you have to pay full price and then on top of that get half a battle pass for the same price as a full battle pass in Fortnite and activation have progressively gotten worse overtime in MW2019 there was just one version of the battle pass and enough cod points to renew the battle pass each season I think a big portion of the player base has caught on and are fed up of being taken advantage of it’s a shame when there’s an actual good game there this year.
Oooor, if I spend $70+ on a game, then I get to complain. Historically, COD players dont play other games much. Theres nothing else im interested in at the moment. I get the perverse incentive creators have to dump on the game.
When are we getting the Halo 3 review?
The current state of wz is much worse that mwii wz2. There's too many issues and corporate greed than before
I know it sucks to see constantly negative opinions on a game or franchise you like, but as you said, ur mostly playing older COD titles. The new ones either have a bunch of bad stuff or feel soulless and unrefined, while the only problem with the older ones is that they're not well supported, if at all, but everything else within the game is better. COD 4 MW till i wanna say around BO3 were the best all around games, with the occasional 'flop', but after BO4 and cold war the games just felt like they started going downhill. Even if you don't see the negative press on social media, you may experience on your own just playing. For example why do i have to constantly experience glitched stuff in BO6? Why do i have to download community made patches to be able to play older titles?
The people who are complaining so much instead of "trying something else" do it because they want to love the game.
I completely agree! Too many people making negative videos, cod is still GREAT!
Chopps camera quality is going dark lore at this point
amen
Someone get chop that mount Apple sells for MagSafe lol
Cod fans are alot like cowboys fans. This is our year they get hyped. Couple months in oh this is trash by the end of the year they are complaining they are done and before you know it everyone hyped again
Episode 50 is criminal to wait for ch0ps new camera... i will buy bro a new camera
As a fan of COD since COD4 and a fan of you both, I agree with the discretions of going the negative bashing route. BO6 mechanically is a good game. They can update it with better maps and get all the bugs out. On the other hand, the micro transactions are totally out of hand. All in all, great episode guys 👍🏽
They had 4 years to make this game. Seems like you have very low standards, but most of the community expects a better game with that development time.
@@ryanclute1377standards are pretty high being a fan for almost 18 years. I’ve played all CODs except COD 1-3. We can all agree that MECHANICALLY (Omnimovement, gunplay, etc.) BO6 is good. The hitreg, packet bursts, outdated servers, over-the-top skins and the worst launch maps of all time brings BO6 way down. Out of all the Black Ops games including WAW, BO6 is like #6 (Tied with BO4 at the bottom of the series). BO6 is not Treyarch’s best work at all. Only the innovation of Omnimovement is Treyarch-like.
@@JoshuaFekete yeah agree but like you said all that other stuff makes it not matter if it’s good mechanically. It’s a bad game how it is right now.
49:46 Get my boy Nero on!
Yeah let’s get Nero on!
Could you get xclusivace on the podcast
Mw3 was higher on the xbox games list than black ops 6
BO6 is good. I like it. But Warzone is maddening. It's so frustrating.
Of course right after I get dark matter the game starts dying lmao
This game is dead…the franchise continues to make promises they fail to meet. No communication. Lack of updates.(don’t care if they have vacation, shouldn’t have pushed out a broken game). If you still playing the game, you don’t watch UA-cam or TikTok or you bad and with SBMM/EOMM you don’t notice how bad the game actually is
This is a based podcast, keep it up guys
EOMM and servers until that's fixed Cod will suck...!!!...
bring on hunter tv
;)
@ 😫🙏
This has been a long time coming since 2019
Honestly this sounds like cod is about to go down the overwatch route
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
New camera please guys it’s so bad lol
? Wtf are people running out of stuff to complain about and just looking for stuff at this point? Go buy one and mail it if you gotta problem.
The hackers and game crashing are big problems other than that it’s just a lot of warzone cry babies 😂
"I just feel like I go on twitter and it's negative"
Yeah. That's twitter.
But you're confusing negative people right now with the most unstable warzone experience to date.
Watch an episode of Pullze Check, 39 issues were discussed and you guys should be keeping up with what's really wrong with the game if you have a podcast that is entirely based on this franchise.
The game is broken (mainly warzone)
9:40
"It's not like the devs have some magical switch to turn off cheating.."
Oh my god this is just beyond infuriating.
Shows that you didnt do ANY research or homework for this podcast man.
Let me fill you and anyone else who doesn't know yet in.
Ricochet wasn't enabled at a kernal level for Black Ops 6 and for Warzone 4.
Why??
Because Both of these games were developed on an older version of the engine and the developers didnt have the time to implement it.
Jeesus, a ranked dev was on another podcast. You two seriously need to study what you're talking about.
Right now I’m camel grinding if it doesn’t get better inseason two I will be going to Fortnite till it gets better
BRING ON TIMTHETATMAN OR NICKMERCS FOR WZ GUYS
No its not.😊
Bring on Doughnuts fosho
Glad to see you guys back im here bc tdawg hasn't uploaded yet today 😁
stream in 15 min :)
50:00 you should bring Xclusiveace on
also my take on what's happening to call of duty is that CoD is suffering from the problems it's had since MW2019. Cheating, frustrating matchmaking, inconsistent netcode, shadowbans, and silence from the devs. The difference with BO6 is that it's actually a really good game. so you have a lot of old players, new players, and game pass players enjoying CoD but still really frustrated with the core issues and that's why we're seeing an explosion of negativity
Stop looking at me
No more thumbnails
Chopper’s camera quality keeps getting worse
LOLLLL