This is a case when watching deleted scenes comes in handy. Because in one of many deleted scenes an Im talking about 37 minutes of. Deleted scenes here in one of them it shows John Kramer. Drawing the gun behind the peep hole trap from Saw 2 confirming this movie takes. Place before Saw 2 so that scene should of been left in. The movie to help people understand it takes place before Saw 2. Then the reason that he showed them no mercy with the time. Is because they knowingly and willingly took part in lying to dying people. To con them out of their money they showed no mercy they get no mercy. They had a choice they chose to take part in the scam so they get the proper treatment.
@@SomethingCinema I mean unless people read about it or heard about it. From the people behind the movie saying it took place after the first movie. An before the 2nd movie this movie could of happened at any time. I mean one of the deleted scenes was John talking to the insurance guy. From that movie where he goes into his game so when. A movie is made to show a specific time it needs a scene. That shows it happened before this other movie in it. So people that watch the movie understand where in the time line of events. The movie happens so they fully understand it.
Good movie reaction video, ladies & gentleman. ‘Saw X’ is now one of my top 2 favorite Saw movies. Good thing film actor Tobin Bell returns as John Kramer AKA Jigsaw for one last time.
Oh hell yeah. I wasn't expecting this reaction today. What an unexpected treat. I've enjoyed your guy's reactions to the series and its been a blast watching them. Saw X is for sure one of the best films of the year for me and one of the rare times that I believe in the hype of a movie. What surprised me most was not only how much I enjoyed this but you can feel how DIFFERENT was going to be! The creators recently admitted that killing John and Amanda off was a huge mistake and it showed why they felt this way. Even the musical score is different as well and it reflects the movie very well! A very different side of John/Jigsaw that we never really saw before. He's the hero in this story this time and I'm all for it! Regardless of what you guys may think of John as a person and character, flawed or otherwise, he is the one of the main reasons why us fans continued to watch the movies. Dude is just relatable and human. He has been through so much in his life. From basically having the good life and was doing well until the bad shit starts to happen. Lost his unborn son, lost his wife from a divorce, gets serious depression, gets cancer, said cancer get mislabeled to prevent from getting better sooner, lost his nephew and now gets scammed. Oh and he tried to "unlive" himself at one point as well. I kind of don't blame him for snapping on people if I'm being honest. Some of them truly deserve what they get. The traps in this one is really creative and wild. I have no idea which ones I liked the most. Most of them were really cool looking! Its tied with the eye trap, the leg trap and the brain trap. This is a hard one lol.
Dallas since u been gone drew been puttin everyting on yr side of d couch lol❤😊 im stitchin haha snacks clipboards garbage ect get him dallas😊❤ lov yall n missed u very much
this movie was fire and i liked how john and amanda had sympathy,the way gabriela died even if she surved her trap smh,but have you ever heard of gonijam haunted asylum its a korean found footage thats very scary and would be good to react to
I would have loved it at the end after Kramer and Carlos were released from the final trap if Kramer revealed that the blood was nothing more than Karo syrup and food coloring
Me and my sister were joking about what each individual torture would be for each other. We determined that all Jigsaw would have to do is chain her leg like in the first saw and put a bunch of heat lamps in the room and tell here that is she wants to get to her Chapstick before her lips permanently dry up and get chapped, she would have to saw off her foot. She said "i would have cut my foot off before he cold finish his spiel." lol
Dude, she’s staying in that room for the rest of her life. Either that or she will be the first victim of Amanda’s un winnable traps. Plus she has to live the realization that had she and Parker taken turns for 10 mins, they could have both made it.
The blond woman the main villain who set this scheme up she survived is going to be in the NEXT SAW film it’s out in 2025 it’s supposed to follow on and this film saw x and the 2 nd part to this out in 2025 are set between SAW 1 and SAW 2
I wanna say SAW X, along with Barbie, Oppenheimer, M3gan, Talk to Me, and probably more and more films surprisingly stand out, praise, so successful in 2023. My biggest disappointment in 2023 is The Exorcist Believer though
I honestly think that the Saw movies should have just kept the "COPYCAT" idea. I didn't like bringing back John and making it between 2 and 3. That's just my opinion, it wasn't a bad movie, just unnecessary. By the way, I hope you guys watch Godzilla Minus One when it comes on streaming, it was the best Godzilla movie behind the 1954 original.
Hi Dallas & Donna 🤗 😊 👋 (I miss you so much, Dallas ❤❤🤗😊😁) Who would win in torture traps kill count ?? The Riddler from Matt Reeves Batman or Jigsaw from James Wann Saw Movies??
John Kramer would have took that into account. Remember it moved after she did her leg. So he would take that into account an have it aimed at the floor. You have to remember John Kramer takes things like that into account with his games.
@@sonofmoss John Kramer was thinking 10 steps ahead at all times. You don't think he would take into account here trying to crawl out of the way. He planned for any an a possibilities when designing those traps. Along with planning it all out he made it so that him and Amanda. Could get out of any of those steal restraints so I'm pretty sure. He took her possibly ending on the floor and trying to crawl out of the way. Into account you are acting like he didn't always plan every single possibility out wich he always did. Like for example reeling in the chain pinning her into one spot. It's hard to crawl away when you are stuck in one place.
Ya'll should react to Smallville or Agent's of Shield I would love to see ya'll's reaction to those two super hero shows and it would be great 2 long shows to watch.
Saw X alternate ending with Jigsaw aka John Kramer surrender and is transferred to the prison suddenly Batman aka Batfleck knew about his crimes and tells him that prisoners will brand him or kill him and the horror movie vibes of batman slowly stalking jigsaw and the lights goes red Prison Guard: Face against the wall kramer!!! Jigsaw: I'm not getting up Prison Guard: On your feet now!!!! Jigsaw gets up quickly Prison Guard: Someone wants to speak with you Jigsaw: Who? Prison Guard: The Dark Knight Jigsaw expression is petrified and fear 😨 😟 😱 🙀 Batman V Superman Custom Soundtrack Horror version theme plays The Batman: The Jigsaw Killer Jigsaw: How did you get here The Batman: Know everything about you is twisted and demented now you going to blackgate prison Jigsaw wicked smile expression to fear petrified: what I'm not going there The Batman: You are john kramer (vanishes from his cell) Jigsaw looks around and sees a bat symbol on his jumpsuit and bat brand Prison Guard: u going to blackgate prison Jigsaw: What u can't do this!!! Prison guards restrain him, and he starts ranting and cursing Jigsaw: u gonna regret it!!! Prison Guard: quiet!!! Jigsaw is headed to Blackgate prison in Batman V Superman ultimate edition
John is NOT A KILLER he’s NOT killed anyone he gives them a choice a chance to win the game if they follow the rules they survive it’s down to them and I’m sorry but if they were descent and genuine people they wouldn’t find themselves in traps to start with the percentage of people that are in traps deserve to be there, there NO GOOD.
If you like movies with magic here is a movie with magic. The Jester 2023 there is also the original short films that. Came out first on UA-cam if you're interested let's just say the movies tage line is. Now you see me. Now you die. The short films have nothing to do with the movies story they just came out first. Then they made the movie because people kept asking for more of The Jester.
@@SomethingCinema It's definitely worth a watch because he or it doesn't do no slite of hand. Tricks like others where they have things set up to look like it's magic. He or it literally and figuratively does the impossible with no hidden gimmicks helping. It's just real magic basically think what if say David Copperfield. Had real magic an turned evil instead of a elephant disappearing he made people disappeare. For ever just for a random example.
#TeamJigsaw Again, Jigsaw proves he isn't just some heinous serial killer. He's vigilante/hero. EOM Reacts put it best when he referred to him as Welfare Batman.
But he takes innocent people and puts them in his games and In harm's Way. To the point that some die case in point Saw the first movie. What did the doctors wife and daughter do they did nothing. But he was going to have someone kill them. But the former police Detective saved them. Case number 2 in Saw to he put the detectives son into the game. Just because he was his son he was innocent. Saw 3 he took the guys daughter an looked her in a room she was innocent. Saw 4 with the insurance company he put the elderly secretary in the game she was innocent. Then in the one with the guy who lied about surviving a game. He put the guys wife into the game an she knew nothing about him lying. She was a innocent an died in it. Saw one the nursing attendant or whatever that was told to kill the doctors family. If he fails or he will die he was innocent. So John Kramer is no vigilante or hero or antihero. I have provided the prof above of all the innocent people he put into the games. That never should of been in them in harm's way or nearly killed or killed. Thats something only a true criminal an killer would do. Because he could of easily came up with games to test those. People that didn't involve innocent people in any way shape or form. Saw just tell the doctor he will never see his family again. If he fails his game he gets locked in the room forever never to see his family again. No need to have the family killed. Just for a example John Kramer could of easily came up with games that. Didn't involve innocent people because I mean in one of them a innocent woman got slowly cooked to death. A wife an daughter almost got killed a son almost got killed a elderly woman almost got killed. You can't honestly look at these facts an said that John Kramer is a vigilante or hero. Because they don't do things like that to innocent people. If you have no problem with things like that there's something not right with you. Because putting guilty people in games is fine an one thing. But when you put innocent people in them an they almost die an die. You are a criminal an a murder because they where only in danger or died because. He put them there an told someone to do it or they die. I am as cold blooded as they come an I even understand. That you only punish or test the wrong doers you leave innocent people out of it.
I mean I am not aposod to innocent people getting killed if that's what. The person does in general non spoiler like for prime example Art the clown. If you don't know what he does non spoiler but basically he is a sadistic psychopath. Who loves to turter people both physically and mentally then kill them slowly as possible well mucking them at the same time. Just for his own amusement basically people are nothing but toys to him to play with an break. To him he would enjoy slowly lowering someone into a wood chipper like people watch movies. I can't wait for Terrifier 3 it's going to be a ft up Christmas. Because it takes place on Christmas but I have no problem with it. Because that's what Art does he has always done it. Now John Kramer claims to have morals about only helping people. Get over things holding them back or not valuing life an so on. So that means that the only people that should be put into harm's way is those people inquestion. How can you justify killing a innocent wife an daughter just because the husband is cheating. On his wife you can't justify or all of the other innocent people that he. Put in harm's way an in one case killing a innocent person. Just to try to help one person you can't. That goes against his own morals because the innocent people have done nothing. To be in those games or dead now have to deal with the troma from it if they lived.
@@SomethingCinema It's never a good thing when you have to compare someone's actions. To that of a stone could sadistic psychopath killer that happily buchers people. Along with mutilating people an turtering people for his own amusement. To show that the other person is just as guilty of killing innocent people or mutilating an turtering innocent people. Under a different reason when it's the same thing. But one does it to entertain themselves an the other has no valid reason.
Maybe it's just me, but Tobin Bell gave an Oscar worthy performance.
Not just you.
Yeah it was really good
I agree but they will NEVER nominate a Saw film for any of those awards
Facts
This was the only Saw movie where I actually rooted for Jigsaw 😂💯
I always root for the killer once I realize the movie itself is trash 😂
🤣🤣 as you can see Drew is always rooting for John 🤣🤣
The first time ever where Jigsaw was the hero in our eyes
I think everybody was...
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Critics gave this positive reviews, calling it the best SAW movie ever made.
Character/plot structure wise yes but it wasn’t as scary as a few of the other ones.
Saw 2 will always be my favorite!!
It's not the best Saw movie but it's still really good
@@dawb86 it was supposed to be scary?
@@makushonjongramiresu1577 Films of the horror genre typically intend to be...
The way my head was in my shirt for most of this movie 😭 still one of the best saw movies imo
You are not alone lol
i can see drew was so happy seeing this one , it was cool seeing hoffman back!
He was too happy
Merry Christmas to Something Cinema
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This is a case when watching deleted scenes comes in handy. Because in one of many deleted scenes an Im talking about 37 minutes of. Deleted scenes here in one of them it shows John Kramer. Drawing the gun behind the peep hole trap from Saw 2 confirming this movie takes. Place before Saw 2 so that scene should of been left in. The movie to help people understand it takes place before Saw 2.
Then the reason that he showed them no mercy with the time. Is because they knowingly and willingly took part in lying to dying people. To con them out of their money they showed no mercy they get no mercy. They had a choice they chose to take part in the scam so they get the proper treatment.
That's a good point about the time
@@SomethingCinema I mean unless people read about it or heard about it. From the people behind the movie saying it took place after the first movie. An before the 2nd movie this movie could of happened at any time. I mean one of the deleted scenes was John talking to the insurance guy. From that movie where he goes into his game so when. A movie is made to show a specific time it needs a scene. That shows it happened before this other movie in it. So people that watch the movie understand where in the time line of events. The movie happens so they fully understand it.
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He did say hand first. Cecilia said foot to kill her quicker
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Good movie reaction video, ladies & gentleman.
‘Saw X’ is now one of my top 2 favorite Saw movies.
Good thing film actor Tobin Bell returns as John Kramer AKA Jigsaw for one last time.
Yeah it's really good
Confirm he's back for Saw 11 which follows on from saw x
They're faces during all movie: •_• •_• ●o●
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Oh hell yeah. I wasn't expecting this reaction today. What an unexpected treat. I've enjoyed your guy's reactions to the series and its been a blast watching them.
Saw X is for sure one of the best films of the year for me and one of the rare times that I believe in the hype of a movie. What surprised me most was not only how much I enjoyed this but you can feel how DIFFERENT was going to be! The creators recently admitted that killing John and Amanda off was a huge mistake and it showed why they felt this way. Even the musical score is different as well and it reflects the movie very well! A very different side of John/Jigsaw that we never really saw before. He's the hero in this story this time and I'm all for it!
Regardless of what you guys may think of John as a person and character, flawed or otherwise, he is the one of the main reasons why us fans continued to watch the movies. Dude is just relatable and human. He has been through so much in his life. From basically having the good life and was doing well until the bad shit starts to happen.
Lost his unborn son, lost his wife from a divorce, gets serious depression, gets cancer, said cancer get mislabeled to prevent from getting better sooner, lost his nephew and now gets scammed. Oh and he tried to "unlive" himself at one point as well. I kind of don't blame him for snapping on people if I'm being honest. Some of them truly deserve what they get.
The traps in this one is really creative and wild. I have no idea which ones I liked the most. Most of them were really cool looking! Its tied with the eye trap, the leg trap and the brain trap. This is a hard one lol.
Great comment!
Great Reaction .... I agree with with drew. glad to see dallas back.
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tobin as kramer hits different from other saw movies . their creative traps are the only thing that is worth watching when tobin is not in the cast
He's just the best
miss u too Dallas u A OG😍😍❤️❤️❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽 sidenote: this was a great reaction
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Welcome back Dallas 😂
Thank you!
SHE'S BAAAAACK!!!! Dallas we miss/love you!!!❤
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Dallas since u been gone drew been puttin everyting on yr side of d couch lol❤😊 im stitchin haha snacks clipboards garbage ect get him dallas😊❤ lov yall n missed u very much
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Great reaction,definitely one of the best saw movie.
Thank you!
I LOVE YALL!! amazing reaction❤️❤️
Thank you. We love you too 💛💚💙❤️
In this new ‘Saw’ movie, scammers cannot be trusted.
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this movie was fire and i liked how john and amanda had sympathy,the way gabriela died even if she surved her trap smh,but have you ever heard of gonijam haunted asylum its a korean found footage thats very scary and would be good to react to
It was nice to see that!
I would have loved it at the end after Kramer and Carlos were released from the final trap if Kramer revealed that the blood was nothing more than Karo syrup and food coloring
That is something he would do lol
Me and my sister were joking about what each individual torture would be for each other. We determined that all Jigsaw would have to do is chain her leg like in the first saw and put a bunch of heat lamps in the room and tell here that is she wants to get to her Chapstick before her lips permanently dry up and get chapped, she would have to saw off her foot. She said "i would have cut my foot off before he cold finish his spiel." lol
That's a good question... we may have to answer that one in a video
I was rooting for John too, Drew 😅😅😅
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wait?!?!?! i NEVER seen the end scene with the guy that was bait with the detective!?!?!?!
Woahhh
Need a sequel where Cecilia get put in a brutal trap
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The stuff coming out the pipe on the trap John and the boy are in is BLOOD
Oh no smh
I agree Drew, they can do a storyline with John's Kramer minions. Could you do a game.
Like create a game or be in a game!?!
Have you guys seen the divergent movies?
We haven't
you guys should@@SomethingCinema
you guys should@@SomethingCinema
What's good Crew. I'm happy Dallas is back. Fucking love this movie. I really felt for John in this one
We all felt for John
39:15 Right?!
I wanted her to *suffer* suffer, but she got that…
*Game of Thrones Spoilers* for anyone who hasn’t seen it.
… Cersei treatment. 😂
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Dude, she’s staying in that room for the rest of her life.
Either that or she will be the first victim of Amanda’s un winnable traps.
Plus she has to live the realization that had she and Parker taken turns for 10 mins, they could have both made it.
What she did was way worse then the punishment
The blond woman the main villain who set this scheme up she survived is going to be in the NEXT SAW film it’s out in 2025 it’s supposed to follow on and this film saw x and the 2 nd part to this out in 2025 are set between SAW 1 and SAW 2
That's interesting
We miss you too Dallas
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I agreed with drew i root for John also 😂😂
😂😂 Team John
To answer your question, Dallas, by the way
Jigsaw died in Saw 3 👀👀👀
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Who ever shawty is with the high energy is cute af !
Thank you!
I loved watchin dis wt yall loved yr faces hahahaha
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I enjoyed this movie
It's really good
I wanna say SAW X, along with Barbie, Oppenheimer, M3gan, Talk to Me, and probably more and more films surprisingly stand out, praise, so successful in 2023.
My biggest disappointment in 2023 is The Exorcist Believer though
We have to check some of those out still
Y’all should watch the fall of the house of usher one of the best horror shows of the year
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@@SomethingCinemamade by the same director of haunting of hill house and bly manor
Ok adding it to the list
Didn't know the premise when I saw it in the theater. Felt that betrayal. They brought this on themselves. 😈
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They kept Cecilia alive because she's gonna be the villain of the next one or two movies.
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Something cinema Saw X (2023) movie in theater imax 3D was awesome
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Miss you Dallas ❤
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Yes I missed her
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I know lol. It’s still cool when it’s just two of them but they got a good dynamic when all three of of them do the vids together
Thank you!
I honestly think that the Saw movies should have just kept the "COPYCAT" idea. I didn't like bringing back John and making it between 2 and 3. That's just my opinion, it wasn't a bad movie, just unnecessary. By the way, I hope you guys watch Godzilla Minus One when it comes on streaming, it was the best Godzilla movie behind the 1954 original.
We definitely will watch it
Hi Dallas & Donna 🤗 😊 👋 (I miss you so much, Dallas ❤❤🤗😊😁)
Who would win in torture traps kill count ??
The Riddler from Matt Reeves Batman or Jigsaw from James Wann Saw Movies??
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I would love to see ya'll react to the new gta 6 trailer
Drew seen it. He liked it
Gabriella should have done the hand first and then she would have dropped but could have more easily got out of the way of the device.
John Kramer would have took that into account. Remember it moved after she did her leg. So he would take that into account an have it aimed at the floor. You have to remember John Kramer takes things like that into account with his games.
@@83shadow3 true, but it still would be easier to get out it’s aim on the floor rather than dangling by one arm.
@@sonofmoss John Kramer was thinking 10 steps ahead at all times. You don't think he would take into account here trying to crawl out of the way. He planned for any an a possibilities when designing those traps. Along with planning it all out he made it so that him and Amanda. Could get out of any of those steal restraints so I'm pretty sure. He took her possibly ending on the floor and trying to crawl out of the way. Into account you are acting like he didn't always plan every single possibility out wich he always did. Like for example reeling in the chain pinning her into one spot. It's hard to crawl away when you are stuck in one place.
Ya'll should react to Smallville or Agent's of Shield I would love to see ya'll's reaction to those two super hero shows and it would be great 2 long shows to watch.
That's a good idea
@@SomethingCinema Thanks.
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The director has stated that Celia lived because they want her in the film. Apparently she'll be even more evil.
Makes sense
To best this is the best in the franchise don't get me wrong the whole franchise is good but this one here ate
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Saw X alternate ending with Jigsaw aka John Kramer surrender and is transferred to the prison suddenly Batman aka Batfleck knew about his crimes and tells him that prisoners will brand him or kill him and the horror movie vibes of batman slowly stalking jigsaw and the lights goes red
Prison Guard: Face against the wall kramer!!!
Jigsaw: I'm not getting up
Prison Guard: On your feet now!!!!
Jigsaw gets up quickly
Prison Guard: Someone wants to speak with you
Jigsaw: Who?
Prison Guard: The Dark Knight
Jigsaw expression is petrified and fear 😨 😟 😱
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Batman V Superman Custom Soundtrack Horror version theme plays
The Batman: The Jigsaw Killer
Jigsaw: How did you get here
The Batman: Know everything about you is twisted and demented now you going to blackgate prison
Jigsaw wicked smile expression to fear petrified: what I'm not going there
The Batman: You are john kramer (vanishes from his cell)
Jigsaw looks around and sees a bat symbol on his jumpsuit and bat brand
Prison Guard: u going to blackgate prison
Jigsaw: What u can't do this!!!
Prison guards restrain him, and he starts ranting and cursing
Jigsaw: u gonna regret it!!!
Prison Guard: quiet!!!
Jigsaw is headed to Blackgate prison in Batman V Superman ultimate edition
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Ay How y’all been? 😊
Good. You?
@@SomethingCinema doing good working at Starbucks now lol 😂 it’s crazy
That is a crazy job, but we know you can do it!
@@SomethingCinema thanks you guys 🙏🏽 😊
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Oh a Saw movie reaction, i mean it's still something
And great that Dallas is back
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John is NOT A KILLER he’s NOT killed anyone he gives them a choice a chance to win the game if they follow the rules they survive it’s down to them and I’m sorry but if they were descent and genuine people they wouldn’t find themselves in traps to start with the percentage of people that are in traps deserve to be there, there NO GOOD.
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Shorty on the far left is wifey material. 😍😭
Thank you!
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If you like movies with magic here is a movie with magic. The Jester 2023 there is also the original short films that. Came out first on UA-cam if you're interested let's just say the movies tage line is. Now you see me. Now you die. The short films have nothing to do with the movies story they just came out first. Then they made the movie because people kept asking for more of The Jester.
Interesting... we have to watch it
@@SomethingCinema It's definitely worth a watch because he or it doesn't do no slite of hand. Tricks like others where they have things set up to look like it's magic. He or it literally and figuratively does the impossible with no hidden gimmicks helping. It's just real magic basically think what if say David Copperfield. Had real magic an turned evil instead of a elephant disappearing he made people disappeare. For ever just for a random example.
We will definitely check it out
I was waiting for ol girls head to get chopped off at the end! Ughhh 😅
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Hello! What about Godzilla vs King Ghidorah movie?
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Why does the doctor look like Cramer's wife?
She does 😂😂
Carrie 2013 they never reacted to it
We haven't... we should
Yesss
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Hey When Godzilla X Kong The New Empire Comes out will You Guys Watch it Please I've Been waiting 3 or 2 Years Scenes Gvk21
Yeah we will watch it
Diego is fine 🙂 👌
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Guys please watch d horrors n slashers i recommeded thanks u will lov dem n be scared n jump
Which order do you want us to watch them in?
@@SomethingCinema no order jus watch it if its a 1n2,most of dem r 1n2
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#TeamJigsaw Again, Jigsaw proves he isn't just some heinous serial killer. He's vigilante/hero. EOM Reacts put it best when he referred to him as Welfare Batman.
But he takes innocent people and puts them in his games and In harm's Way. To the point that some die case in point Saw the first movie. What did the doctors wife and daughter do they did nothing. But he was going to have someone kill them. But the former police Detective saved them. Case number 2 in Saw to he put the detectives son into the game. Just because he was his son he was innocent. Saw 3 he took the guys daughter an looked her in a room she was innocent. Saw 4 with the insurance company he put the elderly secretary in the game she was innocent. Then in the one with the guy who lied about surviving a game. He put the guys wife into the game an she knew nothing about him lying. She was a innocent an died in it. Saw one the nursing attendant or whatever that was told to kill the doctors family. If he fails or he will die he was innocent.
So John Kramer is no vigilante or hero or antihero. I have provided the prof above of all the innocent people he put into the games. That never should of been in them in harm's way or nearly killed or killed. Thats something only a true criminal an killer would do.
Because he could of easily came up with games to test those. People that didn't involve innocent people in any way shape or form.
Saw just tell the doctor he will never see his family again. If he fails his game he gets locked in the room forever never to see his family again. No need to have the family killed. Just for a example John Kramer could of easily came up with games that. Didn't involve innocent people because I mean in one of them a innocent woman got slowly cooked to death. A wife an daughter almost got killed a son almost got killed a elderly woman almost got killed.
You can't honestly look at these facts an said that John Kramer is a vigilante or hero. Because they don't do things like that to innocent people. If you have no problem with things like that there's something not right with you. Because putting guilty people in games is fine an one thing. But when you put innocent people in them an they almost die an die. You are a criminal an a murder because they where only in danger or died because. He put them there an told someone to do it or they die.
I am as cold blooded as they come an I even understand. That you only punish or test the wrong doers you leave innocent people out of it.
Drew is team jigsaw too lol
I mean I am not aposod to innocent people getting killed if that's what. The person does in general non spoiler like for prime example Art the clown. If you don't know what he does non spoiler but basically he is a sadistic psychopath. Who loves to turter people both physically and mentally then kill them slowly as possible well mucking them at the same time. Just for his own amusement basically people are nothing but toys to him to play with an break. To him he would enjoy slowly lowering someone into a wood chipper like people watch movies. I can't wait for Terrifier 3 it's going to be a ft up Christmas. Because it takes place on Christmas but I have no problem with it. Because that's what Art does he has always done it.
Now John Kramer claims to have morals about only helping people. Get over things holding them back or not valuing life an so on. So that means that the only people that should be put into harm's way is those people inquestion. How can you justify killing a innocent wife an daughter just because the husband is cheating. On his wife you can't justify or all of the other innocent people that he. Put in harm's way an in one case killing a innocent person. Just to try to help one person you can't. That goes against his own morals because the innocent people have done nothing. To be in those games or dead now have to deal with the troma from it if they lived.
We see your point
@@SomethingCinema It's never a good thing when you have to compare someone's actions. To that of a stone could sadistic psychopath killer that happily buchers people. Along with mutilating people an turtering people for his own amusement.
To show that the other person is just as guilty of killing innocent people or mutilating an turtering innocent people. Under a different reason when it's the same thing. But one does it to entertain themselves an the other has no valid reason.
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Y’all should react to skeleton key great horror movie
Adding it to the list