@@robertlund5694 since they're the ones who did that, I'll bet it's safe to assume they're aware of that fact, genius. It doesn't mean family members should get death threats or sht talked by a pack of seething couch potatoes. I would've never addressed this online. The majority of subscribers didn't even care. Scottys videos have an average of a few hundred comments each. Same over here. Thats a small fraction of the people who watch these videos. Should've been ignored. I actually say one person claim the reason BB wasn't on Scott's channel was because he called someone the N word. What a pack of seething wackos!
I kid of agree but I feel BB hasn't accepted or understood that without Scott, he wouldn't be where he is now ! and that he owes Scotty friendship and loyalty. If I was to saying anything BB man up and make it right with Scott, you have your life because of him, he did so much for you, of course he feels betrayed, and you will regret the friendship years down the line.
@@PaulRodriguez100 BB knows perfectly well he wouldn’t be where he is without Scotty, but all good things come to an end and this is him trying to grow
Solid. I know things will never be the same on UA-cam, and at this point, I don't think they should. I have no doubts you guys can repair the brotherhood though. Best of luck to both of you, and you both will always have my support.
I wish I could go back 4 years and watch the whole crew just having a good time at the incline club those videos were my favorite I hope everything works out for you
Hella I agree big boy been with Scotty thru everything. His professional career to his accident. Can't wait for y'all's reunion at swamp feast neutral ground 2 both film
This isnt beef. This is two good friends each not seeing each other's perspectives and not talking it out and not discussing things until it becomes way way bigger than it ever should have got.. Scotty is understandably going through something horrible and life changing. Probably felt left behind by all his friends. dealing with depression and anxiety. i see both sides and neither is wrong. this never shouldve gotten this big. Youre both seemingly good people at heart and i hope this gets squashed.
Agreed. I watched these channels from video 1 to now. I think sometimes it has to do with having bad depression days this time for scott. Theres no doubt in my mind that scotty leaned on all his friends during recovery seeing them do what he couldnt and supporting the hell put of them was humbling to scott and I dunno if anyone else realized it. He went from being the best and knowing it to being humble and supportive. I think sometimes not having the friends around and not keeping that same dynamic probably caused him to think more on how much progress he has made and maybe he felt like it wasnt where he wanted it to he, and that people were taking their ability for granted. That's a big subconscious thing for people who used to be able bodied. 2020 was rough for everyone and this probably played into the issues. Love stays love. I have faith they will work it out ♡
@@jessikanichole2272 I completely agree, I think Scotty's injury has way more to do with it than he realises. I would imagine that it is catching up with him a bit now. Especially as his progress will have slowed and some of the post-injury recovery has probably become less exciting and more frustrating as he realises his limits.
Ever since Scott has been injured he has been left out. He was the best one in the group on his bike. After his injury, he was left out of the mix and became a background person. Big boy was probably the last thing Scott had and honestly wanted Big Boy to follow Scott’s footsteps. Buying the house in Florida was probably what started the disconnect. That’s probably when the downfall started but kinda sad. I’ve been watching for years and since before the accident had happened. Watching them split is hella depressing
Not sure I agree. Big Boy was on the channel because, in Scotty's hands, Big Boy was a draw. It was fun to watch that clown fall and act like a total head case all the time. But it was also fun to watch him improve, too. With Scotty's guidance, we saw that. He was able to control Big Boy's chaotic nature and mold it into something. Big Boy is a better rider than he was a few years ago because of it. But Scotty has other options for sure!
@@caseyfenton90 How is it childish? They’re best friends, brothers that are butting heads on ideology’s. After all the hate comments, this is basically the only way OBB and Scotty can even communicate their thoughts to all of us.
To be fair if Scotty is in fact actually completely blanking him (which is pretty immature IMO) then BB has no other choice. I respect him for staying quiet about it until now, if it's the case that they started to not get on but then Scotty completely blanks BB and leaves BB wondering where his next paycheque will come from (which also makes sense if, as BB said, Scotty never shared any business stuff like him such as what % cut he was even getting) then BB is left in a vulnerable situation but still never spoke out against Scotty until now which I respect. Scotty can't call BB his channel partner while not keeping him in the loop on this stuff and then taking away his livelihood with no warning. Nobody wants to exist in that kind of power dynamic. Of course, we're still missing a huge part of the story so there could be even more to it.
This is normal best friend shit .. it happens with everyone and if you say else wise , then you never had a best friend .. you guys will figure everything out and everything will be great again ... well said Big Boy .. much love
You guys are day 1 best friends don't let any stupid shit get in the way of that you guys are both obviously are hurt by the loss of the friendship bmx is about brotherhood and support don't let this youtube shit get in the way of that
Shout out to circuitbmx too love ya vic I actually rode with you guys a few times i remember the spot hunt circuit put on trey was there but our team obviously killed it
If Scotty actually ghosted him then that really sucks. Regardless of whatever wrong you commit, if someone chooses to blank you rather than have a healthy chat about it, they at least are just as much in the wrong as you. You can't take the moral high ground while refusing to communicate and allowing positivity and healing to enter the rift. That's emotionally manipulative behaviour. And if Scotty is still ghosting him then this isn't just 'UA-cam shit' getting in the way. I guess we might find out eventually.
@@ComedianReacts I watched both videos and it seems like they did try to talk about it I'm trying to stay neutral because I know what it's like and I have been in their situation before I don't think Scotty nor big boy meant any harm in the situation
I said this on Scotty's video but there's no need for competition on UA-cam. There's plenty of space for more content and both channels can flourish making similar content. I bet neither channel has suffered from the other, the more content the better. Keep it up guys.
Exactly, this isnt a zero sum game, where one loses and the other wins. People are literally starving for more content for the viewing pleasure. If anything views of one will watch the other and vise versa. Not like I am limited to watching Just Be Weird or Scotty Cranmer show. If anything it gives me two shows to watch during the week to fill my content void. the Jealousy and greed makes no sense at all. The two channels could literally grow off of one another.
@@kylegreen3753 But they DID HAVE a working agreement to the sum of 30% for BB which equates to a binding contract. And obviously Scottys channel will take a major hit since it is the chemistry between BB & Scotty that was the driving element behind the channel.
This is why bands that last take breaks for 6 months to a year occasionally - being together constantly is super stressful... You guys were basically like a band that went on tour for the last 5 years... Don't read more into it than it is - take your breaks - hug it out... give yourselves some space and time and things will get better. Love both you dudes - You all have me reliving my youth even though I can't really ride these days... When you do come back together - set some boundaries and respect each other and it's going to be all good.
@@crossmyass Haha - when I would get asked what it was like being in a band, my response was just that - imagine trying to have a serious relationship with 4 women at once. I was thinking this same analogy leading up to the ever popular, "creative differences".
Please keep an eye on Scotty's mental and spiritual health, he looks very very depressed, I think things are really starting to sink in for him on the reality of whats going on with his life as a whole, UA-cam and everything was an escape for him and helped him escape his depression, now you can tell he has been broken inside, his face is so puffy from crying man, I am worried about him, please please keep an eye on him, dont let him give up on life, you guys have to really man up and realize this life is short man, you dont get a reset and it isnt a game, you guys have had so much fun, real times are now here, challenges are ahead, its time to wake up and realize what you have before it is gone!
Best comment from either video. Something about retiring from NFL or extreme sports that really messes with these guy's heads. I hope Cory and BK keep Scotty going.
@@RobertHurleyJr We all saw what happened to Mira, no sign or warning, just up and gone one day, I believe it was the pain in his knees and back and he couldnt handle it anymore.
I had made my own comment, but I think what Scotty is truly going through is loneliness. I think this is residual pain from his accident. I do not want to speak for him, but ever since his accident he just hasn't been able to be as directly involved in riding as he used to be. I think subconsciously this is where the problem stems. Then he had to change up his life and move to Florida, He saw Big Boy spending more time with Trey. My guess is that he felt as if he were losing his friend, and then when Big Boy started his own channel, he probably felt as if he wasn't able to be apart of it. From the way Scotty was talking, he seemed really hurt that Big Boys intro was only Trey and their other Florida friends.
@@itdo. simple answer is no drama at all. Things popped up in my life and that’s where my focus is. The point of my comment was to show love to Alex. He’s a good dude I am I feel bad when everyone is sad.
The impact you and Scott had on each other’s life is something that can never be erased. A s we grow people change and sometimes that leads them apart. The bond you guys built in those 5+ years is forever though and when the times right your paths will cross again. Us fans and viewers will always appreciate those experiences you guys shared with us on the tube and we can always look back on those videos fondly. Thank you for everything Big boy. Day one viewer.
Well said, the same situation happened to a me and my best friend, trying to run a business with loved ones/friends changes everything, it took a few years and some career changes but were good again! I have no doubt their paths will cross again.
Never liked trey in Scott's videos, really dont like him in big boys videos. There is a negativity and immaturity about him that doesn't fit with either channel in my eyes.
@@mikedevlinbmx7208 I know he has his own career going but he just seems like he's taking advantage of being on the channels. Cant help but feel like the majority of the be weird projects happening are treys ideas on how to spend big boys channel money for himself, posing it as a benefit to the channel. They all look like they're having a good time but just cant help but feel like trey doesn't have good intentions, like he'd move on from hanging out with big boy immediately if UA-cam channel ever dropped off and he couldn't fund sick riding opportunities or something like that. Just don't like the feeling of entitlement and rudeness he brings to the videos
I actually feel sorry for Big Boy in all of this, as well as Scott. I’m heartbroken that they’ve gone separate ways, can’t imagine how rough this is for both of them. Both are such great guys and I hope they’re both so successful in their own paths and hopefully they cross again some day. Big love to both and positive vibes.
Dude Scotty is at his five year mark almost with the accident. that’s the worst time for paraplegics around five years they realize that they’re not gonna get better and they’re going to be like that for the rest of there life. this is a really hard time for Scotty right now. you got to be his friend more than ever right big boi
@@garbagemancan he’s not he’s stating a fact on those living with this injury, and it’s more so what Scotty said in his video he’s in the worst place he’s ever been....
Scotty is an insanely driven and motivated person who’s extremely goal oriented towards perfection, that’s required to become an elite athlete. BB is more free thinking, fun, and open minded. Two completely different people
Hes good at riding but he's seems like the type to betray/manipulate someone for his own benefit.. I can't say that for sure since I don't know him personally, but I just hope big boy doesn't fall for his manipulation if Trey is that type
I think if anyone was in your shoes they’d do the same thing. You just wanted to be able to support yourself and have a steady foundation and your own creative outlet. Nothing wrong with that. Time heals all wounds and in time I’m sure you’ll both grow and learn from this. We support you bro and keep putting out good content👍🏼
Yeah but if he’s making good money on Scott’s channel why would u start your own channel and get trey and all the people in Scott’s videos into his videos? Just seems kinda sketchy to me tbh, but then again who knows we only see there relationship on camera so who really knows, just my opinion.
Na copying the Scotty Cranmer channel upload schedule and declining to change once asked is childish. Youd be cool if you had a co creator start their own channel, with similar content and have it uploaded at the same time to split viewership ?
Never forget where you came from, and how much Scotty changed and motivated you. I remember the big boy that never wanted to ride and how Scotty seemed determined to help you.
that doesn't mean he cant make his own videos. He doesn't owe him his life. You should help people without expecting them to be in debt to you for the rest of their life.
I think anyone who's watched for a while knows how much you love and respect Scotty. It's not realistic to expect that your life would revolve around his forever. People drift apart and we should try to show some understanding to both sides.
Here’s a prime example of how important full transparency communication is, especially with friends and loved ones. I hope more than anything that you boys can reconcile this. Respect guys
The ghosting was a bit dark though, after working with somebody for years and them helping you through the hardest times and being there every step of the way? I think talking would of made things so much easier, Scotty is a really serious person and BB is a bit more wild and care free, I can see how that was going to wear thin
It's clear that Scotty is going through something deep. It's easy when you're in that situation to lose your way and start getting things twisted in your head. Maybe this whole thing will finally make Scotty realize that he needs to talk about stuff more and quit trying to hide stuff. Life isn't always roses and sunshine and if you try to tell people that, it makes you a liar.
When you’re depressed it’s near impossible to want to reach out for help. It’s much more comforting just suffering alone at least it was and is for me.
Well, Scotty also created BigBoy... So I imagine this isn't just about Scotty's physical difficulties. Whether it is an accurate assessment or not, he probably felt completely betrayed by Big Boy and even by the Joneses. By giving ramp design advise and purchasing all of that lumber, Scotty was probably contributing to the project as best as he could. And I imagine Scott was already stressed about BigBoy buying his house in FL to begin with. I'm sure that move hurt and scared him and made him feel even more powerless. Imagine going from BMX god to having to learn how to use your body all over again... And then on top of that, your right hand man through everything ends up outgrowing you and moving to another state. It's super heavy shit. And I'm sure it wasn't easy for Big Boy to spread his wings through all this either.
@@dougtond1380 Even bought another car to save the miles on his van, so he could live in said van in Jersey. The plan was to do this in the summers when Scott decided to head back to his parents.
Bigboy needs to officially switch persona to BigMan after this saga. You and Scotty have both dealt with this BS like gentlemen. Forget the haters. Focus on what's real. Peace.
@@jking0.o121 bro, you're out here slagging strangers off about a situation you don't understand while hiding behind the anonymity that the internet provides. You'll forgive us if we ignore your opinions on morality.
@@spamd2291 What don't I know? I'm stating my opinion, like you said. Where was I wrong? Why should Scotty pay for a ramp that "he can't even ride", as big boy would put it.
Big Boy seems straight. Cant blame the man for securing his lifestyle when Scott is doing the same for himself. He wanted independence & not to be a leech onto Scott.
I don’t know why you guys can’t do what everyone else that’s friends on UA-cam does and just film your own stuff and then if you happen to be together hanging out and happen to be filming at the same time just do that
right. I think SC is just in a dark place with everything going on, along with everything that comes along with Covid and people constantly nagging about BigBoy not being on his channel. I think it just ended up being a bad place and stuff coming out all at once.
Yeah I think scotty was hurting and not talking about it. And how can u blame him look what he's went thru. Now he sees all of that coming to and end too. Like being a separate channel. Cory lied to me and said wtf are u talking about there are no problems!? (Month ago), and I'm a crazy rumor starter that craves some attention.. so I guess I made that up..No Cory is a liar(obviously) and Trey has the ego of napoleon.
OBB played a massive role in the post accident SC channel. Scotty is a competitive dude and he probably felt that besides his family, his other love UA-cam, was falling apart with the degrading working relationship with OBB. It didn’t help that people were leaving comments and I’m sure the views dropped as well around that time. Plus his dogs weren’t doing so well and if he just bought that Florida house and then had to turn around and sell it... that’s a lot for a dude who’s already going through some massive life changing stuff. Forget the channel and everything else, spending the most amount of money that the average person spends on real estate is no joke. Not all relationships transform in a positive manner. I just hope Scotty continues to evolve his channel without OBB and with the crippling winter in NJ. OBB put together a pile of valid points and I hope that Scotty can realize that there’s more to OBB than business.
Sometimes when trying to process this stuff out loud it gets stretched out, and then when trying to explain it to potential hundreds of thousands of people it’s a bit more nerve racking
How does one not care about money when their buying a house. The mortgage company damn sure does. They damn sure knew the percentage. Ive enjoyed watching y’all ride and evolve over the years…. Godspeed
It’s really hard to see this all unfold after so many years of the legendary duo but as long as you two go back to normal (eventually) off or on camera that’s all that matters
They wont. $$$ and big boy losing weight was too much fame for BB to miss out on, in scotty's shadow of 9 medals and best bmx'er alive (along with M.H)
Your really big about handling the separation your relationship will grow behind the scenes You’ll figure it out guys. Respect ✊ thanks for explaining the situation now you’re both got magical connection. Don’t worry time will tell if that spark ⚡️ will appear once more. Love you both from the norty north 🇬🇧✌️
Took me 2 years to be able to watch this video, these guys have been why I got into bmx, they have been all throughout my teens. I'm 23 now and it sucks to watch them split appart but that's life. life goes on, they are not beefing, people just move over things
Your mental health after a life changing injury takes a fucking dive. I love Scott and I hope he's talking to a professional. As a person that's dealt with it, the depression is real. Combining that with a business relationship would be more than challenging.
And people in these scenarios often expect those around them to have endless patience for them and their condition(s). It gets increasingly tiring for everyone and sooner or later somebody is going to snap, unjust or not.
Hats off to both you and scotty. You guys had an intense relationship and no break from eachother. This can have a lot of strain. I'm glad you guys both made the video and have given perspective. I hope he watches and can see things from your side. I'm gonna miss the collaboration. I hope things work out in the future.
Honestly, I'm more pissed at how some viewers handled this. The amount of people that started spreading INSANE rumors about the situation (I saw something in Scotty's video about someone who started a rumor that Scotty killed a dog. THE HELL?), instead of just waiting for the guys to publish/say something, is sickening. And the way some viewers handled this by sending death threats and blaming X or Y for all this is just as bad, if not worse. Let the guys handle this, since it's THEIR problem and they're all adults. Geez
Yup. Thats the shit we live in. My dad told me once. Theres always gonna be assholes in life. Its how we deal with them lol. Some dick has to be that guy and start some shit thinking they know whats even going on.
I agree with you that some comments went to far in spreading rumors and directly messaging people and insulting or threatening them (if that happend) is obviously wrong. But I have to say that people *have* waited a long time and nothing happend. And that most of the comments were not unfriendly or mean but rather disappointed. Most people did not ask for a detailed explanation or were demanding anything, they just felt fooled and ignored. The whole situation was at least in some part of Scottys and Big Boys own making. If you tell people for years that they matter to you and thank them for your support and then you completely ignore them them when they actually care about you it just feels wrong. However I think now we have more than enough of an explanation and however keeps on bugging people about this maybe should think about stopping it
Both you and scott are class. Im 30 casual bmx rider for the last 15 years so obviously am a big fan of scotty jesus he was the man, those road fools when he was just a kid what a guy. Big boy Alex my advice to you is be yourself because trust me that will be more than good enough for you to find happiness.
Jesus, yesterday everybody was ripping him apart just because Scotty made a video and today all of a sudden everybody is supportive. How does that work?
@@andyhatman88 exactly this. Scottys video told his opinion and his perspective and people took that as a fact. People should only make conclusions after the whole story is out but unfortunately that’s not how the internet works
I think big boy is just trying to look to his future, it is not a selfish move. This moment was inevitable since the accident happened. That is not where Scott's story ends though, this is a new chapter for him and his channel, so do not feel bad about moving on. People try to latch onto things that make them happy forever, but nothing is permanent, circumstances change, people get older, and we adapt.
So many people are still not getting where you come from, do the best for you not for anyone else. Business or not at the end of the day you need to look after yourself, big ups to you man for keepin it 100%
See what I don't get is how these channels "conflict" at all. There's definitely an audience for both channels. There would be an audience for every single member of the Cranmer crew. Hell, I'd watch Dom Simoncini's channel, and everyone else would, too. I don't get why they can't build a network of related channels, like the Faze Clan.
Braille skateboarding have a huge channel. A lot of there skaters have there own channels. They don’t have as big of a audience but still the skaters are growing alongside Braille.
Well i mean posting his videos on the same day as scottys is kind of shitty. Takes away attention from eachothers channel respectively. And scotty made a point about that to him and he kept posting on the same days
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar pretty hard not to post on same day as Scott use to do every day but Sunday! In saying that, Big Boys new direction doesn't interest me... watch one once and didn't like it. But good to see that Big Boy still has the great heart that stood by Scotty in his recovery!
This gave me a lump in my throat. Turns out this is a sad story from all sides. The only thing I have a real problem with is the fact that now Scotty isn't around, Trey has gone back to thinking his skull is made of adamantium and no longer needs to wear a helmet. Good luck with that.
If you watch both videos it seems like there is a lot of “Them” “They” “He” “BigBoy” “Kelsey” “Trey” in SC’s video... Its everyone else’s fault and what they owe me because of what I (SC) did. I think Scotty Cranmer is in a dark place right now and has a lot of stuff going on. In BB video there is a lot of introspect “I should not have done this” “I sincerely apologize.” More of a narrative of I made choices maybe they weren’t the best but I did what I felt was right for me at that moment. Time heals all wounds and things will mend, it’ll just take time.
That's what I thought as well. Scotty is doing a shit load of deflecting and patting himself on the back. Heavily edited his message to make it what he wanted. BB isn't editing this. It's all passion. Scotty shouldn't have left him in the dark.
@D W Pretty much what I was thinking. Scotty was the root of the cause and decided to take it all out on OBB. I get Scotty's situation is hard but it's super petty to expect so much from someone so close. A real friend would have supported OBB with his youtube channel. Rather than offer him more money to keep him from making videos. The whole uploading at the same time thing really irritated me. In no way would uploading at the same time or with the same type of content take away from any sort of viewership. There are 24 hours in a day and people have time to watch 2 20 minute videos easily. It makes it worse when you look back at how many views OBBs channel was getting during that time also. He was barely making 5-10k views a video, if that.
@D W It's sad. Scotty doesn't know what he's losing by getting rid of Big Boy like this. All Scotty's fans are brigading OBB hard now too after that pity party of a video he put out. I can't help but believe that scotty knew how it would affect Big boy and he still played the victim card/disability card and put all the blame directly on OBB by straight ignoring him and removing every mention of him from his channel.
love you big boy, you got me into bmx and i already learned how to 360 after literally 2 weeks because of how much ive been watching your videos the passed couple years
This channel split is normal and no beef. Just blown out of proportion by this random people who they don't even know. I will support both of you guys.
I hope you keep maturing as you have been since the beginning of Scotty's channel. Your weight loss, progress on BMX, general social skills etc. As a viewer who's been watching from the start, it's incredible how much you've changed over the years, and it's understandable if that change, combined with how much Scotty's changed both from the accident but also just from time, has caused you guys to drift apart. Friendships take minutes to make, moments to break, and years to repair.
Howdy big boy, just dropped by to say Hi bro, keep ya chin up mate and stay happy, I'm a half century old and I know time goes by so fast, it's too short to be miserable, STAY HAPPY HOMEY 😎🙋👍💪
Things were said out of line but that’s life it’s hard to deal with the Scotty Cranmer Chanel going from everyone on it and Scotty riding everyday to this. Even just watching this is one of the hardest things to rap around my head from 2020-21.
I thought this was about Trey having a whinge after scotty had already payed 4k for the wood and scotty can't even ride it, and at whos house? for free. obb took treys side, That was the problem. nobody apologized except his sister. now its turned into this, not what you guys are saying.
@@easton.88 a whinge? Big boy doesn’t seem to be taking a side. More like saying he wants to make his own stuff. His statements were clearly backed up by videos of him in scottys videos and his own. The reason I see big boys side more is because Scotty expected that big boy didn’t want to have his own life. What has obb actually done wrong here?
@@easton.88 imagine you are building a life up and just started your own UA-cam. A friend pays for a backyard ramp as a gift. Well it’s still your backyard and that doesn’t mean people can just say when they come over. It has to be when you are available. Scotty kind of pinned big boy into letting him come over anytime just because he bought him a ramp. Now that being said, I think they should have set aside time for Scotty because he has special needs. This should have never been posted for the public though, this is drama
Your videos will never compete no matter if you uploaded them on the very same second. I will always watch them both in what ever order they pop up on my screen. I wish you both the best in this situation
I feel bad for you, Scotty, and everyone else involved. You guys all sound so dejected when you guys are talking about what happened and why you went your separate ways. I just wish I could give all of you a hug because you guys can tell how sincere each one of you guys are when saying that you guys are sad that you went your own ways and that you wish it was different. I just feel so bad for all of you guys because I feel your pain and I wish we could help somehow. Always supportive and wishing you guys the best. "Never judge until you know the truth." -a supportive fan until the end, Kris
Scotty gives you enough of his youtube money to buy a house. Then builds you a $8000 ramp. His generosity with his channel made you into a internet celebrity. You then "restart" a youtube channel using the same crew of people, the same format as his, using a ramp he bought and then start posting videos an hour earlier than when his videos debut. Not to mention you immediately start selling merch for your channel. (Guess that about sums up the type of guy "Big Boy" is.)
I feel like sometimes popularity and fame, “being the best” really causes people to act differently than the person they really. And with his accident he lost a lot, went back to who he was before in a way. Probably really hard on him. But you seem like a great dude, best of luck to you both
Man. I’ve been watching you guys since way before the incident. I’m in college now and it’s insane looking at this. You guys worked great together. I know people move on but this is hard. It’s like watching a family split apart. I hope the best for you and Scotty
Business relationships fail, don't let your friendship fail. Protect the friendship.
Your spot on. Need to see the boys together on 4th of July and other holidays
Exactly man but everyone keeps trolling this situation and making it worse.
@@abelcedillo5758 they choose to put their life on the internet for money!!!
Rob Dyrdek has said the same thing many times and he is a business genius.
@@robertlund5694 since they're the ones who did that, I'll bet it's safe to assume they're aware of that fact, genius. It doesn't mean family members should get death threats or sht talked by a pack of seething couch potatoes. I would've never addressed this online. The majority of subscribers didn't even care. Scottys videos have an average of a few hundred comments each. Same over here. Thats a small fraction of the people who watch these videos. Should've been ignored.
I actually say one person claim the reason BB wasn't on Scott's channel was because he called someone the N word. What a pack of seething wackos!
"We didn't realise we were making memories, we just knew we were having fun." - Winnie the Pooh
So true, you don't know what you have untill it's gone.
I like this quote ^_^
One day we grabbed the ball and walked home for the last time..
bruh
We’re all here for you bb 🤘🏻
If Scott is depressed and disabled it’ll be a lot harder for him to ‘move on’. I guess Scott is feeling left out and helpless.
I kid of agree but I feel BB hasn't accepted or understood that without Scott, he wouldn't be where he is now ! and that he owes Scotty friendship and loyalty. If I was to saying anything BB man up and make it right with Scott, you have your life because of him, he did so much for you, of course he feels betrayed, and you will regret the friendship years down the line.
@@PaulRodriguez100 BB knows perfectly well he wouldn’t be where he is without Scotty, but all good things come to an end and this is him trying to grow
Im guessing u guys just watched him sit on a chair and didnt actually listen 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@lionsgamer117 ong they didn’t listen dude it’s easy just stop sitting in the comments smh
@@PaulRodriguez100 you didn’t watch the vid did you
Solid. I know things will never be the same on UA-cam, and at this point, I don't think they should. I have no doubts you guys can repair the brotherhood though. Best of luck to both of you, and you both will always have my support.
I wish I could go back 4 years and watch the whole crew just having a good time at the incline club those videos were my favorite I hope everything works out for you
🙁 I wish big boy was still fat. He wouldn't be such a shitty friend.
@@jking0.o121 🤣🤣
@@jking0.o121 fat big boy was funny as hell😂
You still can just go on there old videos 🤷🏻🤣
@@ftsruinz6292 ik but it’s not the same anymore
Maybe one thing - don't cling to Trey way too much, always keep your own personality.
The best point on this commentary
no doubt,
Trey is trouble
I can see how you are slowly turning into Trey
Yeah don’t pull what Scott pulled on him.
I would just like to see you in a Scotty video every once and awhile
Hella I agree big boy been with Scotty thru everything. His professional career to his accident. Can't wait for y'all's reunion at swamp feast neutral ground 2 both film
Facts
Also please listen to "dripping so pretty too sick" lyrics are spot on for u big boy
Tattoo's over all my scars
And Scotty in a big Boy video
This isnt beef. This is two good friends each not seeing each other's perspectives and not talking it out and not discussing things until it becomes way way bigger than it ever should have got.. Scotty is understandably going through something horrible and life changing. Probably felt left behind by all his friends. dealing with depression and anxiety. i see both sides and neither is wrong. this never shouldve gotten this big. Youre both seemingly good people at heart and i hope this gets squashed.
well said- i share this opinion!!
Agreed. I watched these channels from video 1 to now. I think sometimes it has to do with having bad depression days this time for scott.
Theres no doubt in my mind that scotty leaned on all his friends during recovery seeing them do what he couldnt and supporting the hell put of them was humbling to scott and I dunno if anyone else realized it. He went from being the best and knowing it to being humble and supportive. I think sometimes not having the friends around and not keeping that same dynamic probably caused him to think more on how much progress he has made and maybe he felt like it wasnt where he wanted it to he, and that people were taking their ability for granted. That's a big subconscious thing for people who used to be able bodied.
2020 was rough for everyone and this probably played into the issues. Love stays love. I have faith they will work it out ♡
@@jessikanichole2272 10000000% agreed.
@@jessikanichole2272 I completely agree, I think Scotty's injury has way more to do with it than he realises. I would imagine that it is catching up with him a bit now. Especially as his progress will have slowed and some of the post-injury recovery has probably become less exciting and more frustrating as he realises his limits.
Facts!!!🤜🤛🖤👏👏👏👏🤘🤘🤘
Ever since Scott has been injured he has been left out. He was the best one in the group on his bike. After his injury, he was left out of the mix and became a background person. Big boy was probably the last thing Scott had and honestly wanted Big Boy to follow Scott’s footsteps. Buying the house in Florida was probably what started the disconnect. That’s probably when the downfall started but kinda sad. I’ve been watching for years and since before the accident had happened. Watching them split is hella depressing
It really is it’s sad to see two best buds splitting
Not sure I agree. Big Boy was on the channel because, in Scotty's hands, Big Boy was a draw. It was fun to watch that clown fall and act like a total head case all the time. But it was also fun to watch him improve, too. With Scotty's guidance, we saw that. He was able to control Big Boy's chaotic nature and mold it into something. Big Boy is a better rider than he was a few years ago because of it. But Scotty has other options for sure!
@@Shawn-wt4kh yea I just think it’s hard for him to let go of hanging with his best friend
“One of the best” dog. He was the best to ever touch a damn bmx bike
@@carterbowles3796 facts Scotty was the best too bad the whole world didn’t get to see him at his prime.
Communicating thorough yt is just Weird
be weird bro
It's childish.
@@caseyfenton90 How is it childish? They’re best friends, brothers that are butting heads on ideology’s. After all the hate comments, this is basically the only way OBB and Scotty can even communicate their thoughts to all of us.
@@camdengraves1442 Sounds like Scotty cut off communication, one things for sure neither one of these guys strike me as dishonest people.
To be fair if Scotty is in fact actually completely blanking him (which is pretty immature IMO) then BB has no other choice. I respect him for staying quiet about it until now, if it's the case that they started to not get on but then Scotty completely blanks BB and leaves BB wondering where his next paycheque will come from (which also makes sense if, as BB said, Scotty never shared any business stuff like him such as what % cut he was even getting) then BB is left in a vulnerable situation but still never spoke out against Scotty until now which I respect. Scotty can't call BB his channel partner while not keeping him in the loop on this stuff and then taking away his livelihood with no warning. Nobody wants to exist in that kind of power dynamic. Of course, we're still missing a huge part of the story so there could be even more to it.
“The best of friends have the hardest arguments, but when it comes down to it, they are friends and that’s what counts”.
100% you guys are friends and dont let things ruin that you guys are friends and that is all that counts
NEVER LET BUSINESS RUIN FRIENDSHIPS
@Shane Willis well they did didn’t they..
It was not completely his fault what so ever
Very true bro well said
This is normal best friend shit .. it happens with everyone and if you say else wise , then you never had a best friend .. you guys will figure everything out and everything will be great again ... well said Big Boy .. much love
that’s like saying when you break up with a girl your going to get back together no matter what sometimes things fall through🤣
@@jomama4974 What? No it's not, Scotty and Big Boy weren't fucking, lol, so to me at least there's still a chance!
@@jomama4974 are you friends with Yuri?
@@michaelmoline7058 fair point my friend, fair point
The money makes it difficult to overlook.
You guys should just keep a distance for a while but still do a colab every once in a while and I bet you will rebuild a connection
my thoughts exactly....just a bit more time and it will evolve into collabs
@@CKilger12
This aged well
@@CNYKnifeNerd what happened?
You an the homies signed me an my sons bikes few yrs ago at yall bike shop.. I'm forever grateful for that.. ❤ty
You guys are day 1 best friends don't let any stupid shit get in the way of that you guys are both obviously are hurt by the loss of the friendship bmx is about brotherhood and support don't let this youtube shit get in the way of that
Shout out to circuitbmx too love ya vic
I actually rode with you guys a few times i remember the spot hunt circuit put on trey was there but our team obviously killed it
If Scotty actually ghosted him then that really sucks. Regardless of whatever wrong you commit, if someone chooses to blank you rather than have a healthy chat about it, they at least are just as much in the wrong as you. You can't take the moral high ground while refusing to communicate and allowing positivity and healing to enter the rift. That's emotionally manipulative behaviour. And if Scotty is still ghosting him then this isn't just 'UA-cam shit' getting in the way. I guess we might find out eventually.
@@ComedianReacts I watched both videos and it seems like they did try to talk about it I'm trying to stay neutral because I know what it's like and I have been in their situation before I don't think Scotty nor big boy meant any harm in the situation
@@GROWINGPAINS57 yurt
@@bodes2367 lol
I said this on Scotty's video but there's no need for competition on UA-cam. There's plenty of space for more content and both channels can flourish making similar content. I bet neither channel has suffered from the other, the more content the better. Keep it up guys.
Well BigBoy was always there for Scotty's projects and now he's not... So I imagine that has affected the channel a lot
@@dougtond1380 it definitely has, but thats to be expected
Exactly, this isnt a zero sum game, where one loses and the other wins. People are literally starving for more content for the viewing pleasure. If anything views of one will watch the other and vise versa. Not like I am limited to watching Just Be Weird or Scotty Cranmer show. If anything it gives me two shows to watch during the week to fill my content void. the Jealousy and greed makes no sense at all. The two channels could literally grow off of one another.
@@dougtond1380 but just because scotty took him in doesnt mean big boy belongs to scotty.
@@kylegreen3753 But they DID HAVE a working agreement to the sum of 30% for BB which equates to a binding contract. And obviously Scottys channel will take a major hit since it is the chemistry between BB & Scotty that was the driving element behind the channel.
“Things change and that’s the way it is” - 2pac
That’s a horrible quote
Thats just the way it iss
Things will never be the same
This is why bands that last take breaks for 6 months to a year occasionally - being together constantly is super stressful... You guys were basically like a band that went on tour for the last 5 years... Don't read more into it than it is - take your breaks - hug it out... give yourselves some space and time and things will get better. Love both you dudes - You all have me reliving my youth even though I can't really ride these days... When you do come back together - set some boundaries and respect each other and it's going to be all good.
Seriously. Being in a band is like being married to three or four dudes. It's a nightmare.
@@crossmyass Haha - when I would get asked what it was like being in a band, my response was just that - imagine trying to have a serious relationship with 4 women at once. I was thinking this same analogy leading up to the ever popular, "creative differences".
Please keep an eye on Scotty's mental and spiritual health, he looks very very depressed, I think things are really starting to sink in for him on the reality of whats going on with his life as a whole, UA-cam and everything was an escape for him and helped him escape his depression, now you can tell he has been broken inside, his face is so puffy from crying man, I am worried about him, please please keep an eye on him, dont let him give up on life, you guys have to really man up and realize this life is short man, you dont get a reset and it isnt a game, you guys have had so much fun, real times are now here, challenges are ahead, its time to wake up and realize what you have before it is gone!
Now this is the facts. This really is
Best comment from either video. Something about retiring from NFL or extreme sports that really messes with these guy's heads. I hope Cory and BK keep Scotty going.
@@RobertHurleyJr We all saw what happened to Mira, no sign or warning, just up and gone one day, I believe it was the pain in his knees and back and he couldnt handle it anymore.
@@flocklegend1412 CTE is a little different
I had made my own comment, but I think what Scotty is truly going through is loneliness. I think this is residual pain from his accident. I do not want to speak for him, but ever since his accident he just hasn't been able to be as directly involved in riding as he used to be. I think subconsciously this is where the problem stems. Then he had to change up his life and move to Florida, He saw Big Boy spending more time with Trey. My guess is that he felt as if he were losing his friend, and then when Big Boy started his own channel, he probably felt as if he wasn't able to be apart of it. From the way Scotty was talking, he seemed really hurt that Big Boys intro was only Trey and their other Florida friends.
Sucks when private shi goes public just because everyone’s to damn nosey
Ya ik you can tell this was personal and they didn’t want to share this stuff
I would like the comment but you have 69 likes
Nosey lol shut the fuck up. I like them all and have been wondering why they haven’t been on scottys channel.
@@sadspud5499 da cry
@@sadspud5499 I lost IQ reading ur reply
Love you big dawg❤️❤️
@@itdo. simple answer is no drama at all. Things popped up in my life and that’s where my focus is. The point of my comment was to show love to Alex. He’s a good dude I am I feel bad when everyone is sad.
@memba berry I appreciate the support. Show some love for Alex.
I’m air hugging big boy
@@Rileys_dad you can do it
@@kadenjamison2812 ❤️
The impact you and Scott had on each other’s life is something that can never be erased. A s we grow people change and sometimes that leads them apart. The bond you guys built in those 5+ years is forever though and when the times right your paths will cross again.
Us fans and viewers will always appreciate those experiences you guys shared with us on the tube and we can always look back on those videos fondly. Thank you for everything Big boy.
Day one viewer.
Well said, the same situation happened to a me and my best friend, trying to run a business with loved ones/friends changes everything, it took a few years and some career changes but were good again! I have no doubt their paths will cross again.
Probably the most level headed comment ive seen on this matter!
Sad thing is, is that if business wasn’t involved you’d still be best friends. Real sad situation 😔
Nah, if it wasnt for trey jones.
Mad respect for doing this, I honestly think trey is gonna be a source of conflict among your viewers going forward however
Never liked trey in Scott's videos, really dont like him in big boys videos. There is a negativity and immaturity about him that doesn't fit with either channel in my eyes.
I sometimes see it but im a trey fan he dosnt bother me none. But i do see what y'all are sayin
@@mikedevlinbmx7208 I know he has his own career going but he just seems like he's taking advantage of being on the channels. Cant help but feel like the majority of the be weird projects happening are treys ideas on how to spend big boys channel money for himself, posing it as a benefit to the channel. They all look like they're having a good time but just cant help but feel like trey doesn't have good intentions, like he'd move on from hanging out with big boy immediately if UA-cam channel ever dropped off and he couldn't fund sick riding opportunities or something like that. Just don't like the feeling of entitlement and rudeness he brings to the videos
@@SmokeumPeacepipe very true. Seems kinda annoying from time to time also. Kinda immature
Y'all are so dramatic. It's fucking gross actually. Go exercise or read a book or make a meal you've never made before. Stop hating.
I actually feel sorry for Big Boy in all of this, as well as Scott. I’m heartbroken that they’ve gone separate ways, can’t imagine how rough this is for both of them. Both are such great guys and I hope they’re both so successful in their own paths and hopefully they cross again some day. Big love to both and positive vibes.
Haven’t watched these guys in years and I return to this 😂
Lmao well there goesss that...
Same lol
it’s like big boy went to harlem and back
Same afk
Same
This feels like a rock band breaking up. Same vibes.
Dude Scotty is at his five year mark almost with the accident. that’s the worst time for paraplegics around five years they realize that they’re not gonna get better and they’re going to be like that for the rest of there life. this is a really hard time for Scotty right now. you got to be his friend more than ever right big boi
Big bubu need that cheddar though
One more time for the people in the back
@@garbagemancan he’s not he’s stating a fact on those living with this injury, and it’s more so what Scotty said in his video he’s in the worst place he’s ever been....
Facts
Yeah that’s not true
Your head is very straight man, It's good to your head on your shoulders, keep growing 🇨🇦
I feel like my parents are getting divorced and I have to stay with grandma... Jk good luck guys support you both.
Yeah this is sad...
Lol
Man, family gatherings are gonna be awkward for a while when Big Boy and Robin get married...
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haha feels good to atleast laugh a bit amought all this drama :D
@@jondoe820 OG's know
@@jondoe820 watch more of the old videos
@@jondoe820 go watch alll the way back to the bigginin robin was at a family reunion or wedding or bbq or somthing years ago 👍 older lady
The ramp was the straw that broke the camels back. There is no way a friendship goes down like that period.
What ramp is there a video of it? Started watching in 2015 but stopped last year trying to catch up
@@ninalovesbus just look up big boy and Scotty ramp
Scotty is an insanely driven and motivated person who’s extremely goal oriented towards perfection, that’s required to become an elite athlete. BB is more free thinking, fun, and open minded. Two completely different people
What I'm going to say is keep an eye on this trey he seems bad news.
Explain further
Agreed
Yup
Hes good at riding but he's seems like the type to betray/manipulate someone for his own benefit.. I can't say that for sure since I don't know him personally, but I just hope big boy doesn't fall for his manipulation if Trey is that type
What you said
this is probably the most genuine "apology" or beef explanation video on youtube
I think if anyone was in your shoes they’d do the same thing. You just wanted to be able to support yourself and have a steady foundation and your own creative outlet. Nothing wrong with that. Time heals all wounds and in time I’m sure you’ll both grow and learn from this. We support you bro and keep putting out good content👍🏼
Agreed
No not everyone. Us adults handle shit differently..
Yeah but if he’s making good money on Scott’s channel why would u start your own channel and get trey and all the people in Scott’s videos into his videos? Just seems kinda sketchy to me tbh, but then again who knows we only see there relationship on camera so who really knows, just my opinion.
Na copying the Scotty Cranmer channel upload schedule and declining to change once asked is childish. Youd be cool if you had a co creator start their own channel, with similar content and have it uploaded at the same time to split viewership ?
@@justinprofit8806 you can watch both videos. If anything the videos could support each other. Especially since OBB uploads an hour before Scott
After that long of friendship. It wasn't about the ramp.
Ya notice Trey's absent and got jack shit to say about it...
He says everything is good between them, then goes on to say " maybe in a few months we can be civil"
Never forget where you came from, and how much Scotty changed and motivated you. I remember the big boy that never wanted to ride and how Scotty seemed determined to help you.
that doesn't mean he cant make his own videos. He doesn't owe him his life. You should help people without expecting them to be in debt to you for the rest of their life.
Yh but like he said he can go his own way as well his not gonna put his life on hold
Sometimes you have to let the bird fly
I think anyone who's watched for a while knows how much you love and respect Scotty. It's not realistic to expect that your life would revolve around his forever. People drift apart and we should try to show some understanding to both sides.
scott is the best mentor in the world
never clicked so fast. I respect you big boy and I still support you 💯
Seriously, and if this is over a comment about a fuckimg ramp I'm gonna be super disappointed on everyone lol
The weirdest thing about this situation was the duo we watch every single day will not be the same as before.
Here’s a prime example of how important full transparency communication is, especially with friends and loved ones. I hope more than anything that you boys can reconcile this. Respect guys
These are grown men, let them do their thing.
The ghosting was a bit dark though, after working with somebody for years and them helping you through the hardest times and being there every step of the way? I think talking would of made things so much easier, Scotty is a really serious person and BB is a bit more wild and care free, I can see how that was going to wear thin
It's clear that Scotty is going through something deep. It's easy when you're in that situation to lose your way and start getting things twisted in your head. Maybe this whole thing will finally make Scotty realize that he needs to talk about stuff more and quit trying to hide stuff. Life isn't always roses and sunshine and if you try to tell people that, it makes you a liar.
When you’re depressed it’s near impossible to want to reach out for help. It’s much more comforting just suffering alone at least it was and is for me.
Well, Scotty also created BigBoy... So I imagine this isn't just about Scotty's physical difficulties. Whether it is an accurate assessment or not, he probably felt completely betrayed by Big Boy and even by the Joneses. By giving ramp design advise and purchasing all of that lumber, Scotty was probably contributing to the project as best as he could. And I imagine Scott was already stressed about BigBoy buying his house in FL to begin with. I'm sure that move hurt and scared him and made him feel even more powerless. Imagine going from BMX god to having to learn how to use your body all over again... And then on top of that, your right hand man through everything ends up outgrowing you and moving to another state. It's super heavy shit. And I'm sure it wasn't easy for Big Boy to spread his wings through all this either.
@@dougtond1380 BigBoy moved to Florida because it was Scotty's plan. Skip to 13 minutes.
ua-cam.com/video/1a1ZU1aSPg8/v-deo.html
@@dougtond1380 Even bought another car to save the miles on his van, so he could live in said van in Jersey. The plan was to do this in the summers when Scott decided to head back to his parents.
Bigboy needs to officially switch persona to BigMan after this saga. You and Scotty have both dealt with this BS like gentlemen. Forget the haters. Focus on what's real. Peace.
More like big backstabber. Or at least pay Scotty back the $8k in ramps. That's what a 'man' would do.
@@jking0.o121 bro, you're out here slagging strangers off about a situation you don't understand while hiding behind the anonymity that the internet provides. You'll forgive us if we ignore your opinions on morality.
@@spamd2291 What don't I know? I'm stating my opinion, like you said. Where was I wrong? Why should Scotty pay for a ramp that "he can't even ride", as big boy would put it.
@@spamd2291 and what does annonyminty have to do with anything? Your phuckin weird.
@@jking0.o121 Dude, I'm not about arguing on the internet. You're 100% entitled to your opinions. Obviously. Have yourself a good weekend, brother.
Big Boy seems straight. Cant blame the man for securing his lifestyle when Scott is doing the same for himself. He wanted independence & not to be a leech onto Scott.
Yoooo
now just leach onto jones
Finally someone speaks some faxs
He should've stuck with scott. Trey is dirty and it's rubbing off on him... anyone watch his video showing his pool
I don’t know why you guys can’t do what everyone else that’s friends on UA-cam does and just film your own stuff and then if you happen to be together hanging out and happen to be filming at the same time just do that
What you talkin bout Willis
Trey jones
right.
I think SC is just in a dark place with everything going on, along with everything that comes along with Covid and people constantly nagging about BigBoy not being on his channel. I think it just ended up being a bad place and stuff coming out all at once.
Yeah I think scotty was hurting and not talking about it. And how can u blame him look what he's went thru. Now he sees all of that coming to and end too. Like being a separate channel. Cory lied to me and said wtf are u talking about there are no problems!? (Month ago), and I'm a crazy rumor starter that craves some attention.. so I guess I made that up..No Cory is a liar(obviously) and Trey has the ego of napoleon.
OBB played a massive role in the post accident SC channel. Scotty is a competitive dude and he probably felt that besides his family, his other love UA-cam, was falling apart with the degrading working relationship with OBB. It didn’t help that people were leaving comments and I’m sure the views dropped as well around that time. Plus his dogs weren’t doing so well and if he just bought that Florida house and then had to turn around and sell it... that’s a lot for a dude who’s already going through some massive life changing stuff. Forget the channel and everything else, spending the most amount of money that the average person spends on real estate is no joke.
Not all relationships transform in a positive manner. I just hope Scotty continues to evolve his channel without OBB and with the crippling winter in NJ.
OBB put together a pile of valid points and I hope that Scotty can realize that there’s more to OBB than business.
“Im going to make it quick and short to the point” *22+ min later
Guilt ramble.
Sometimes when trying to process this stuff out loud it gets stretched out, and then when trying to explain it to potential hundreds of thousands of people it’s a bit more nerve racking
Text book Big Boy
If it was you I pretty sure you wouldn’t be able sum this whole thing up in 5 min
@@cbarry69 bet. I could sum it up in 4 minutes or less
Best of luck to you OBB. You guys had such great chemistry together. And growing apart from one another is part of life! 👍🏼
How does one not care about money when their buying a house. The mortgage company damn sure does. They damn sure knew the percentage. Ive enjoyed watching y’all ride and evolve over the years…. Godspeed
You're straight Big Boy, this video is proof you are a good friend!
-Peace brother
✌️
It’s really hard to see this all unfold after so many years of the legendary duo but as long as you two go back to normal (eventually) off or on camera that’s all that matters
They wont. $$$ and big boy losing weight was too much fame for BB to miss out on, in scotty's shadow of 9 medals and best bmx'er alive (along with M.H)
Don’t worry about other people starting rumors. You and Scotty are homies just need to get it back together.
Never happen
Your really big about handling the separation your relationship will grow behind the scenes You’ll figure it out guys. Respect ✊ thanks for explaining the situation now you’re both got magical connection. Don’t worry time will tell if that spark ⚡️ will appear once more. Love you both from the norty north 🇬🇧✌️
Took me 2 years to be able to watch this video, these guys have been why I got into bmx, they have been all throughout my teens. I'm 23 now and it sucks to watch them split appart but that's life. life goes on, they are not beefing, people just move over things
I been watching these guys for several years, i still come back to these old videos. I wish i could ride a bike, these guys were awesome together❤
Your mental health after a life changing injury takes a fucking dive. I love Scott and I hope he's talking to a professional. As a person that's dealt with it, the depression is real. Combining that with a business relationship would be more than challenging.
And people in these scenarios often expect those around them to have endless patience for them and their condition(s). It gets increasingly tiring for everyone and sooner or later somebody is going to snap, unjust or not.
Hats off to both you and scotty. You guys had an intense relationship and no break from eachother. This can have a lot of strain. I'm glad you guys both made the video and have given perspective. I hope he watches and can see things from your side. I'm gonna miss the collaboration. I hope things work out in the future.
you can really tell it’s from his heart too. we love you❤️
Honestly, I'm more pissed at how some viewers handled this. The amount of people that started spreading INSANE rumors about the situation (I saw something in Scotty's video about someone who started a rumor that Scotty killed a dog. THE HELL?), instead of just waiting for the guys to publish/say something, is sickening. And the way some viewers handled this by sending death threats and blaming X or Y for all this is just as bad, if not worse. Let the guys handle this, since it's THEIR problem and they're all adults. Geez
Yup. Thats the shit we live in. My dad told me once. Theres always gonna be assholes in life. Its how we deal with them lol. Some dick has to be that guy and start some shit thinking they know whats even going on.
I agree with you that some comments went to far in spreading rumors and directly messaging people and insulting or threatening them (if that happend) is obviously wrong.
But I have to say that people *have* waited a long time and nothing happend. And that most of the comments were not unfriendly or mean but rather disappointed. Most people did not ask for a detailed explanation or were demanding anything, they just felt fooled and ignored.
The whole situation was at least in some part of Scottys and Big Boys own making. If you tell people for years that they matter to you and thank them for your support and then you completely ignore them them when they actually care about you it just feels wrong.
However I think now we have more than enough of an explanation and however keeps on bugging people about this maybe should think about stopping it
Damn you guys sound like a married couple going thru a rough patch.
🤣😅
Both you and scott are class. Im 30 casual bmx rider for the last 15 years so obviously am a big fan of scotty jesus he was the man, those road fools when he was just a kid what a guy. Big boy Alex my advice to you is be yourself because trust me that will be more than good enough for you to find happiness.
Jesus, yesterday everybody was ripping him apart just because Scotty made a video and today all of a sudden everybody is supportive. How does that work?
Big facts
Probably just a lot of little uneducated kids jumping to conclusions.. People love to get involved and stir things..
@@andyhatman88 exactly this. Scottys video told his opinion and his perspective and people took that as a fact. People should only make conclusions after the whole story is out but unfortunately that’s not how the internet works
KIDS
The same ppl ripping big boy were ripping Scotty the day before. They just negative lol
Everyone trying to point out who in the wrong..... PEOPLE, they are both right in their own way. No one is at fault
Facts!!
Yessir
I think big boy is just trying to look to his future, it is not a selfish move. This moment was inevitable since the accident happened. That is not where Scott's story ends though, this is a new chapter for him and his channel, so do not feel bad about moving on. People try to latch onto things that make them happy forever, but nothing is permanent, circumstances change, people get older, and we adapt.
Wow, fancy seeing you here!
More moto guys? That’s pretty sick
@@PitbikeGawd can’t beat moto.
@@talonsoenksen87 hahaha Hey Talon!
This is so different from other youtube split ups they are still cool and they aren’t throwing any shade
Edit: We love you OBB
They aren’t throwing shade. The commenters are throwing it for them without understanding what the hell is going on, judging them.
It’s LBB
You were a big part of the channels success! Watching since Big Boy vs rail
Big Sweaty
So many people are still not getting where you come from, do the best for you not for anyone else. Business or not at the end of the day you need to look after yourself, big ups to you man for keepin it 100%
This shows how important it is to speak to eachother and tell them how you feel.
See what I don't get is how these channels "conflict" at all. There's definitely an audience for both channels. There would be an audience for every single member of the Cranmer crew. Hell, I'd watch Dom Simoncini's channel, and everyone else would, too. I don't get why they can't build a network of related channels, like the Faze Clan.
Or the Vamps crew
Vanoss*
Braille skateboarding have a huge channel. A lot of there skaters have there own channels. They don’t have as big of a audience but still the skaters are growing alongside Braille.
Well i mean posting his videos on the same day as scottys is kind of shitty. Takes away attention from eachothers channel respectively. And scotty made a point about that to him and he kept posting on the same days
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar pretty hard not to post on same day as Scott use to do every day but Sunday! In saying that, Big Boys new direction doesn't interest me... watch one once and didn't like it. But good to see that Big Boy still has the great heart that stood by Scotty in his recovery!
You could tell this was hard for him to film. Good luck big boy 🤞🏻
@bob builder I don't think so, I think he needs some time to show people what he can do without Scotty
@bob builder I believe Scotty did have a significant impact on big boy through out the years but only time can tell what he will proceed with
You’re looking thicc here, well done bro. 💪🏼
real mates would have this settled over a beer by now, yous were best mates cant ruin that over shitty youtube lol
fax but a beer is a bit hard over 1000 miles
Trey is big boys best friend. That’s the problem
Scotty made big boy
@@wildoafi3 no Scott was childish and wouldn't talk to big boy who literally kept his channel alive after Scott had his accident
They had settled it. It was entitled people in the comments asking questions and demanding answers.
This gave me a lump in my throat. Turns out this is a sad story from all sides.
The only thing I have a real problem with is the fact that now Scotty isn't around, Trey has gone back to thinking his skull is made of adamantium and no longer needs to wear a helmet. Good luck with that.
The only person that doesn't come out of this looking good is Trey (and Kelsey tbh)
Yous guys shouldnt have to explain yourself tbh. Its no ones buisness but yours man, appreciate you sharing and love both the channels now
Yeah, that's their original intent but so many people that addicted to the drama forcing them to do this.
The one thing i dont think he mentiond is scotty said that he asked him to move the ralese dates of his video and he didint
100% stand by you. Speaking from the heart dude.
I agree with someone's comment. Definitely have to collaborate once in a while and feel the good old times. The friendship will mend
They're friendship has nothing to do with us, whether it mends or not. They'll figure it out, we can only sit and watch
If you watch both videos it seems like there is a lot of “Them” “They” “He” “BigBoy” “Kelsey” “Trey” in SC’s video...
Its everyone else’s fault and what they owe me because of what I (SC) did. I think Scotty Cranmer is in a dark place right now and has a lot of stuff going on.
In BB video there is a lot of introspect “I should not have done this” “I sincerely apologize.” More of a narrative of I made choices maybe they weren’t the best but I did what I felt was right for me at that moment.
Time heals all wounds and things will mend, it’ll just take time.
That's what I thought as well. Scotty is doing a shit load of deflecting and patting himself on the back. Heavily edited his message to make it what he wanted. BB isn't editing this. It's all passion. Scotty shouldn't have left him in the dark.
I thought the same thing honestly, that Scotty was deflecting and trying to paint it like he’s the victim in all of this
@D W Pretty much what I was thinking. Scotty was the root of the cause and decided to take it all out on OBB.
I get Scotty's situation is hard but it's super petty to expect so much from someone so close. A real friend would have supported OBB with his youtube channel. Rather than offer him more money to keep him from making videos. The whole uploading at the same time thing really irritated me. In no way would uploading at the same time or with the same type of content take away from any sort of viewership. There are 24 hours in a day and people have time to watch 2 20 minute videos easily. It makes it worse when you look back at how many views OBBs channel was getting during that time also. He was barely making 5-10k views a video, if that.
@D W It's sad. Scotty doesn't know what he's losing by getting rid of Big Boy like this. All Scotty's fans are brigading OBB hard now too after that pity party of a video he put out. I can't help but believe that scotty knew how it would affect Big boy and he still played the victim card/disability card and put all the blame directly on OBB by straight ignoring him and removing every mention of him from his channel.
I think he’s just in a dark place with everything. He’s not a bad guy and this kind of stuff is a part of life.
love you big boy, you got me into bmx and i already learned how to 360 after literally 2 weeks because of how much ive been watching your videos the passed couple years
Scotty is ten times the man Trey will ever be.
This channel split is normal and no beef. Just blown out of proportion by this random people who they don't even know. I will support both of you guys.
Big Boy you are the best man you really have great character never change bro much love
It’s weird this guy is always in someone’s shadow first it was Scotty now it’s Trey
Dude shut up
He has a white power tattoo on his Bart tattoo. That's a big reason why we all lost respect for him. He will do anything for his 15 minutes.
And he has the shittiest collection of ass quality tattoos going.
@@Anonymous_________ wait, what? who has a white power tattoo?
I hope you keep maturing as you have been since the beginning of Scotty's channel. Your weight loss, progress on BMX, general social skills etc. As a viewer who's been watching from the start, it's incredible how much you've changed over the years, and it's understandable if that change, combined with how much Scotty's changed both from the accident but also just from time, has caused you guys to drift apart.
Friendships take minutes to make, moments to break, and years to repair.
this comment is criminally underrated
Howdy big boy, just dropped by to say Hi bro, keep ya chin up mate and stay happy, I'm a half century old and I know time goes by so fast, it's too short to be miserable, STAY HAPPY HOMEY 😎🙋👍💪
Things were said out of line but that’s life it’s hard to deal with the Scotty Cranmer Chanel going from everyone on it and Scotty riding everyday to this. Even just watching this is one of the hardest things to rap around my head from 2020-21.
2020 RUINED EVERYTHING
Well said OBB - very impressive actually.
Hey Big boy I wish u and Scotty both the best dude and I hope one day u work things out for the future I did subscribe to show my support
You have the right to take what’s yours and provide for yourself. I was thinking that when I saw Scottys video. My group of friends understands you
I thought this was about Trey having a whinge after scotty had already payed 4k for the wood and scotty can't even ride it, and at whos house? for free. obb took treys side, That was the problem. nobody apologized except his sister. now its turned into this, not what you guys are saying.
@@easton.88 a whinge? Big boy doesn’t seem to be taking a side. More like saying he wants to make his own stuff. His statements were clearly backed up by videos of him in scottys videos and his own. The reason I see big boys side more is because Scotty expected that big boy didn’t want to have his own life. What has obb actually done wrong here?
@@easton.88 imagine you are building a life up and just started your own UA-cam. A friend pays for a backyard ramp as a gift. Well it’s still your backyard and that doesn’t mean people can just say when they come over. It has to be when you are available. Scotty kind of pinned big boy into letting him come over anytime just because he bought him a ramp. Now that being said, I think they should have set aside time for Scotty because he has special needs. This should have never been posted for the public though, this is drama
Your videos will never compete no matter if you uploaded them on the very same second. I will always watch them both in what ever order they pop up on my screen. I wish you both the best in this situation
I feel bad for you, Scotty, and everyone else involved. You guys all sound so dejected when you guys are talking about what happened and why you went your separate ways. I just wish I could give all of you a hug because you guys can tell how sincere each one of you guys are when saying that you guys are sad that you went your own ways and that you wish it was different. I just feel so bad for all of you guys because I feel your pain and I wish we could help somehow. Always supportive and wishing you guys the best. "Never judge until you know the truth." -a supportive fan until the end, Kris
Scotty gives you enough of his youtube money to buy a house. Then builds you a $8000 ramp. His generosity with his channel made you into a internet celebrity. You then "restart" a youtube channel using the same crew of people, the same format as his, using a ramp he bought and then start posting videos an hour earlier than when his videos debut. Not to mention you immediately start selling merch for your channel.
(Guess that about sums up the type of guy "Big Boy" is.)
He's been selling the merch for years with cat prints and crash prints.
@@allothernamesbutthis ya i have only been doing that for 3 years prior haha.
bruh big boy started BE WEIRD years ago... you are so fucking ignorant in this situation.
@@mcstench8913Having 4 videos over 4 years doesnt count as a channel
You guys should just give each other a Handy J and call it even.
@phillyphill O.T.P.H.J.?
I feel like sometimes popularity and fame, “being the best” really causes people to act differently than the person they really. And with his accident he lost a lot, went back to who he was before in a way. Probably really hard on him. But you seem like a great dude, best of luck to you both
If you reached out and Scotty never responded but put out a video about you makes me feel strange tbh
Man. I’ve been watching you guys since way before the incident. I’m in college now and it’s insane looking at this. You guys worked great together. I know people move on but this is hard. It’s like watching a family split apart. I hope the best for you and Scotty
Im glad you made this bro clears up stuff for a lot of people. Love you big dog!
Respect bro , everyone needs new goals new feelings new life , respect the way you respect him back and hopefully will see you both again together 💪💪