I loved that Junaid didn't agree to Half the views of Azad still had a full conversation with respect. Everyone has a opinion and every opinion should be heard =)
No actually they are quite different. I like Junaid but recently i have come across a few ideas which i would disagree. But still both are good motivators.
Honestly, being a 16 year old overseas pakistani living in Libya, I've wished a collab between you two for a fairly long time. This is my most favourite podcast junaid bhai, wish to see more collabs!🙂
True! This part of the discussion was way off truck for me! How did he come with this new theory of having multiple wives without approval of the first one??!!
@@ammadarshad2080 eslye Atheists horahy han log respect first women also women b utne he haqdar he jitna mard he, yeh soch rakh kr ham kbhi grow nhi kr skty
Just because he holds a different opnions that doesn't label him as confused. He simply holds a different opinion and viewpoint to Junaid and yourself. Liberals, small-minded, gora-complex people will likely disagree staunchly with Azaad,
@@essakhan1575 heheeheh ... But as i see Gora Complex approaches is been claimed by Azaad sb ... like doing Marriage without even informing 1st wife ...
@@muhammadharoon5841 That was an extreme and rare situation that Azaad was lead into by Junaid - the reality is that from my observation the majority of people that have a 2nd wife do not do so secretly and infact its not encouraged in Islam to do a Nikah secretly.
Can you imagine this podcast is literally 2-3 months old. in one podcast junaid said that I have to wind up quickly as azad chaiwala is coming. I always wondered when will this podcast come
The patience that Junaid Akram showed throughout this podcast is incredible, at one point you can see his nostrils flaring at Azad's closed minded views on women.
when you talk about women, you relate to your mother, sister, wife.... junaid must have think about women in his life when azad is talking shit about women
Yes, Azad is contradicting his own self by undermining women. How will an economy be efficient if half of the population is not allowed to involve themselves in the creative process?
"Close minded". Yup when owning only fans accounts is deemed as "independence" and "open mind" then surely this must be very conservative to you. WANNABE
Azad is only talking about 2nd wife you called this close minded views. If you dont have any knowledge of islam thn stop talking shit. Islamic things are not close minded things Please join mera jism meri marzi and get the hell out of pakistan Bcz we do not need any gays
Nah! I don't think he's unrealistic & dreamy! He saw the world & he know better then normal pakistani!! He motivate us! Maybe he thinks if the talk a little big so he can attract nation to evolution!
Ghareeeb Pakistanis Ameer insaan ko Dreamy hi kehty hein Jab k Poora Europe Isi Dreamy Life sy Taraqi kr chuka hai so bro reality is Wo log haqeeqat ma jeety hein or hum khwabon wali life jeety hein
I am very motivated by azad chaiwala for his social work Allah bless you more happiness and success And Allah also make us like U who can help others Junaid Sir love U for your useful content ❤
Very nice choice to bring him. Universities of Pakistan are mostly a money making industry, not an academic one. If the demand for pulao is more in your area, you will see many pulao restaurants, similarly, the demand for degrees is so high in Pakistan, as a result, the universities r never short of customers, only those businesses improve, which have a competition and are feafurl of customers decreasing, but in universities, its the other way around.
Bhai degrees are important, they open the door, baqi skillset hei apka. UAE/Dubai mein visa bhi nahi deti companies agar degree nahi hooon....why the hell ye point koi nahi batata?
@@LazyIncubuss i swear bro ..in last semester there was a questions in bioinformatics exam.. That what is computer and what are input and output devices and what are floppy disk .. U can see in youtube by searching previous years question paper kumaon university bioinformatics six sem
folder and stress one was the best. and i agree with Azad bhai in everything. my most two favt UA-camrs in one place together. Thanks Junaid bhai and Azad bhai. Assalamualaikum.
What an amazing episode, loved the way Junaid bhai respected the difference of opinion and still made valid points against it. Although i found a hint of misogyny in Azad chaiwala's conversation but despite that there is massive respect for both of them as they motivate the youth of Pak to hustle for success by whatever means.
You are correct but Islam mai jayaz hai ye. Is it correct or incorrect ? We can find more such information from Ex Muslim Sahil and Adam Seekers youtube channel
Azad chahiwala is grear imputational man but in some of cases I don't agree with him the other side Junaid akram is legend,, Love this podcast,, when i saw its title and thumbnail i get excited because i know this podcast is going to add a lot of knowledge in my brain
Alot of people forget the part that comes after the limit of 4 wives. "If you fear that you might not treat the orphans justly, then marry the women that seem good to you: two, or three, or four. If you fear that you will not be able to treat them justly, then marry (only) one, or marry from among those whom your right hands possess. This will make it more likely that you will avoid injustice." Allah knows that with multiple wives it is not humanly possible to provide all with same level of love because they are not children they are your spouse. that is why he said it is better for you to have only 1 wife so you don't mistakenly do injustice. I hope azad reads the FULL ayah once again and understands that marrying multiple women is to support them mainly not for satisfying sexual desires because you cant control them. self control is the most important part of Islam.
That's is exactly what's wrong with the mentality of our society. "permission Lene ki zarorat nai hai" and "and polygamy cx they can't keep it in their..." logic dooor dooor tak choo k b nahi guzri but it's our reality when such a learned man talks about such sensitive topic like "nah bro, polygamy yes, chillings".
@@sharan.sharan In Islam, you should consult/inform your 1st wife for a second marraige. You are not supposed to ask for "permission". Of course, the first wife should know if you are getting married or not. That is unjust to the first wife, which is against Islam. I did my research after this interview and nowhere did I find that you cant marry without your first wife's permission.
@@abdul839 exactly one should! And let's just say for the sake of argument that we should consult and not ask for permission, you still have to DO JUSTICE, if the first wife is unhappy with your decision and feeling hurt, how is that fair? I for one would not be happy no matter what excuse the husband would have to want to get married. I mean loyal and one-woman man should feel offend by the very idea that "men are like wild animal with extra desires and can't really help themselves". If I was a man, I would have.
@@sharan.sharan i was just clearing the point regarding permission. You can consult your wife, try to make her understand why you’re doing so and see if she agrees. If husband is not happy with first wife and wife doesn’t allow second marriage then they should get a divorce or wife can set a condition that if he wants to get married again then he should divorce me first, maybe that will stop the husband from second marriage. Second marriage isn’t an easy thing. And few people why women are not allowed to marry more than once? This is just my opinion and not related to Islam. I think women are not allowed to marry because what if you want to get pregnant. Which husband would wait for 9 months to get intimate with her? Or who’s child she is going to bear first? What if she is pregnant and another husband wants a child or what if she just delivered and next husband wants a child? This would lead to cheating from husband’s side.
I have watched both but now watching them together is really a good investment for me.. I really inspired your statement Azad Bhai and just noticed in this podcast.. biryani pe bikne wale log jb khud biryani khaenge to unki demand barh jaegi..
Brother you are right 👍 But mene dekha comments mein kafi logo ko Jo indirectly behayaii ki he bat kr rahy hain k larkiyo k rights baraber k hain lakin ye saray log Islam se hat k sochte hain or kehte hain k hum educated people hain lakin ap bhi jante Hoge k Islam mukamal zabta e hayat hai . Or thank you mujy acha laga k apki bhi bhot positive soch hai
@@abdul839 let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
@@haroon4567 You need to understand that men have to be just and fair to his multiple wives in all things, how is breaking ones heart where she might cry in pain to allah or keeping a wife secret from another "fair and just"
Watching this from India as i am genuine follower of Junaid. And initially i was inspired with the chaiwala guy when he was talking about money and all. The moment he started talking about 2nd wife and all that bs related to removing mathematics and girls with degrees have ego, i lost it. You need better role models people.
It is natural men to have more wife how many shivaji was having ? Was it also bs ? If you dont want dont do it ? Not everyone wants to stalking girls on IG , watch porn , have gf to avoid taking responsibility of wife . Of course after doing this you wont never feel to have another wive . Stop this and you will naturally feel to have one but may be you are not man enough to have res8
@@binhilabiare we living in the same world as 100s of years ago? If not why should we follow the rules that are discriminatory to half of human population
@@rrajputofficial5024 how natural need are supposed to changed after 100 years. I mean after hundre one need d9es not change you will feel hungry and thirsty as any one who did 100 years ago.
@@binhilabi that has nothing to do with "NATURAL NEEDS" marrying 3 wives or marrying 1 wife will change nothing in your life . Stop making stupid arguments . No one is going to wars now a days that you have to marry multiple wives and have multiple children . The earth is getting overpopulated and the resources are in limited amount . Agar koi kisi ko sachha pyar karta hai to vo kisi aur se fir pyar nahi karega aur agar karta hai to usko pehli wali se sirf physical attraction tha (NOWADAYS)
I am 19 year old I was wanted to study computer science lakin mery matric ma marks kam ay aur mjhy government college ma admission nhi mila ma private college afford nhi sktha toh mijhy study chorni pari phir ma na ussi sal online kam kia aur Alhamdulilah Millions earn kia, mjhy baad ma pta chala us college ma computer science waly 90% students fail howy thy. Ajj kal university’s waly 25 sal larko ko apny parents sy pocket money mangty howy sharam ani chahia 😂
Azad inspirational?😂- this guy doesn’t know half of the shit. I can bet you he could only give this talks in Pakistan where ppl wouldn’t counter for frivolous ideas
@@a-khan2687 we have a crisis of leaders, heroism and mentors. We didn't let anyone clean after prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and made every single person controversial in 1400 years of Muslim Ummah. Currently we need local heros and local success stories. Stop looking for perfection and admire the little good deeds.
Education is very important, Degrees are important, even if you feel they will not help you later, just get educated... it's also the entire experience of attending the classes/lectures, assignments, exams, stress, failure, success, bonding and a lot of other things, it's also all about the experience. Please pursue your studies, Education is very very important...You can earn the skills as you are getting educated..keep that in mind.
Listen education is imp when u learn something in pakistan everything is based on ratta... ratta maaro or exam mai likh k a jao here they dont test your skills they test your memory k kitna acha yaad karte ho that is bullshit
salam sir ,today i tell u my brother sucess story my brother just completed his fsc and got admission in bahria university but we have not that much to fulfil the expensices of the uni and our family face toug time too then my brother take decision and go to dubhai to do job and his first job was in government department and till now he is progressing alot mashALLAH only bcz of his determination,communication skills and how to dress up and have confidence to show who u are now we all are happy so my message is to built up your communication skills knows how to communicate to someone and how to dressup confidently
This guy to me comes across as half decent and half sleaze-ball. I don't agree with all of his opinions and niether does Junaid but he has to be commended as to what he has achieved. Kudos.
@@SYEDOWAISMUKHTARVLOGS Degree will stay and support you forever in your country and around the world.. Azad Chaiwala ideas works on uneducated peoples.
He's right about universities not teaching properly but kids at school level have to learn the basics of everything ,maths, arts cause how else will they know what they'd like to study further! teaching just one thing is gonna give them tunnel vision
A better argument to question regarding permission for second marriage would be: "Do you need permission of parents to get married. Your answer would be k chahiye toh nahin lekin its better k batadein because of the relationship with them and situation. But what if they do not allow you to get married because of XYZ reason, would you tell them or not that you are getting married to some person? Obviously you can't but you will look for a chance to tell them in the future, not k your break the relationship with them or do not do the marriage, you have to take both of them together... Its similar with first wife, its *much much* that better you tell her, but if she doesn't agree, you don't need her permission."
The way Azad Bhai defended Shariah and handled it with the wisdom by calling Allah the most wise Alhamdulillah! Alhamdulillah that we are waking up to defend our Deen in this liberal world. Many people got hurt today who think somehow Islam is imperfect 😊
let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
Yes, i was very happy too. Too many liberals nowadays in Pakistan but pir bi Pakistan ma Islam ko koi khatra ni. Kpk aur Balochistan bhara hua ha. Ye liberals sirf internet pe thode se ha.
@@muizbhittani6298 Yes they're nearly 1% lekin they're active and we are sleeping. Ye baat Tuaha ibn Jaleel ne bhi boli thi 😁 Khair nothing to be worried! Just keep raising voice, wese bhi we are confident about being right. 🇵🇰💚
@@manansharma6348 correct your info brother, he's right we don't need permission from first wife to marry another one. But we have to make sure we treat second or any wife til fourth Justly. And one more thing marrying second, third or fourth time is acceptable but not recommended. There is a difference.
Learnt a skill Learnt it again Master that skill Done the work in 1 hour that a normal person will do in 5-8 hour get paid for the time saving with accuracy And repeat the steps again Don't stop learning Two book I will recommend chanakya arthashastra Sun Tzu art of war
In the U.S this is already becoming the trend, more people are going for technical and specialized institutions. College is too expensive and student loan debt is like getting a mortgage. I agree with Azad, this is a skill based economy if you don’t learn you don’t earn. Junaid bhai once again great podcast.
@@muhtarammm jo baat hai, plus junaid is closer to mooro and actually respects and supports that guy while chaiwala is just a guest that he had invited to listen to an opposing pov of things which throughout the length of this podcast he didn't agree with.
Azad Chaiwala seems to live in his own world and a lot of his ideas/opinions are far-fetched from reality. Junaid bhai you were an excellent host, impressed you didn't just sit there nodding your head with everything the guest said but challenged his opinion where you disagreed in a very respectful way.
Thank you Junaid for bringing such good content forward for Pakistani youngsters...I agree how Azad has mentioned man entrepreneurs should seek supportive wives I think he should have also mentioned ambitious women/women entrepreneurs should only pursue supportive partners as husbands and avoid demanding men to grow in career or business
@@gg4099 He is saying unpractical things.....he is not seeing what innovation,development and research education brings take the example of America,china,japan
What a beautiful discussion with two amazing minds... not everyone can understand the depth of this knowledge session and what was being communicated !
This the best example of Freedom of speech kudos to mr junaid for giving such an Entrepreneur the platform so that he can bless us with such thought provoking statements which makes so much sense to i don’t know whom . This is what happens when you give money to a 3 year old and surely he can say and do whatever TF he wants. Like Seriously Millionairoo. 😂
Ma Sha Allah g zubrdast m socha krti thi sir Azad bht hmmm mghror s Insan hyn mgr ap ko smjh tb ati hy jb wakye m kise ko sunty hn ruk k KY wo Kiya kehna Cha rha hy jazakallah o khairr sir
Azad bhai is genuinely working hard for others and I love how unapologetic and firm he is in his belief. May Allah bless him with the happiness of boht worlds. Ameen.
While studying in a good institution through professional teachers one learns grooming , good speaking skills , basic manners and how to communicate confidently also one becomes polished and refined.
Well said. I think the key is 'good institution' as you mentioned. Unfortunately, most of the people responding want quick bucks and perhaps more than 1 wife. Is the state of Pakistan?! I haven't been in 15 years so wouldn't know really.
@@faisalnafees8413 if im incorrect, kindly suggest why. Otherwise, go and learn a few more words in English, not just expletives 😄. I can teach you a few if you wish.
let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
@@manansharma6348 bhai islam kehta ha wife se permission lelo ni deti to bina permission ke shadi krlo Most wives dont allow thats why he is saying ke agr apni wife ko jante ho ache se ke ni dene wali to phr bina permission ke shadi krlo
Skills its okay. But one should have a formal understanding of things before getting into skills. I agree with junaid that, Integration is imp whether it helps or not. Its formal things that make us smart enough to understand whats good and whats bad for us
Azad bhai is the great person youth ke liye aur wo kahete hain main apka bade bhai hun sound good, aur amir garib kuch nahi manta and wo khud bhi jaruratien puri karne liye paise kamate hain aur youth ko jaruratein puri karne liye kamane ka rasta batate hain .....................mashallah he is a great person and doing great.
@@ISyedZainUlAbideen Hahha thats why education is needed.....first of all if you want to upgrade your sole trader business(of any type) to company you need to register it with SECP(you need here a degree holder e.g lawyer or a CA ) . Every year you need to do Audit of your company ,which is done by a CA or CMA . If you install high end machines you need skilled labour to run it.....Here i am not mentioning marketing,logistic handling department....you need skilled guys for it too. Well according to Azad bhai ideology if every teenager will leave education and pop in doing buisness then who will do Audits,tax filing, handle legal cases,managing company financial muscle ??????.there will be a time when market will get saturated and all old guys will subsequently charge high for there services which result in diseconomies of scale.
I am watching this interview and stopping it intermittently, just to re-think Kay ye waqye Azad Chaiwala Hain. It's not less than hard talk for Azad bhay 🤭
What a great podcast. Seriously I learned alot from this video. Hats off to you Junaid sir. Thank you for this wonderful podcast. If you want to do something big in life you can do it.
One of his posts he said when he asked his wife's hand in marriage he put the condition before marriage that he will have multiple marriages. I say okay if all parties agree then do whatever the you want but saying women don't know what they want is fucking bullshit. What kind of mentality is that?
@@ssajid40 If a man commits Zina this is solely his fault. He is the one not following Islam. Punishment of adultery is stoned to death the one who commits Zina not his wife who doesn't want him to marry another woman. So do not pull this narcissistic shit on women. Men have been manipulating women in the name of Islam long enough. This dude is basically preaching that men should deceive and lie to their life partners. When Nabi salat o salam was asked Momin can be a bakheel? Nabi salat o salam said yes Then asked Momin can be a coward? Nabi salat o salam said yes. Then asked can a momin be a liar? Nabi salat o salam said "No, whoever lies and deceives is not one of us." So what kind of Islam This dude is following?
@@mzmz8354 dont misquote different topic Hadith and confront them to each other, Hadiths can never come in conflict with each other, first seek guidance from the literature that where did u find permission of the first wife is necessary then post these claims that u know for a fact, U guys wont allow Nabi SAW (Nauzubillah) to marry more than once like this, its like asking our societies for these permissions
@@Shreaadedaa Okay here's another hadith for you I am keeping it short you can search it yourself. Regarding wives's right. Hazrat Ali ne nabi salat o salam se abu jahl ki beti se dusri shadi ki jab ijazt mangi toh Nabi salat o salam ne farmaya k Ali Nabi ki beti k haqooq k muamlat main Allah se daro. Hazrat Ali ne na sirf dusri shadi ka irada tarq kia balky Fatima A.S ki hayat e mubarak main unho ne kabhi doosri shadi nahi ki... You gotta consider your wife's opinion on that matter. You make her your life partner. When a man marries 2 women they become family too. First wife should have the right to at least choose her family.
I loved that Junaid didn't agree to Half the views of Azad still had a full conversation with respect. Everyone has a opinion and every opinion should be heard =)
Yup, Junaid was pushing his limits... that was good...
Yes, even if the other person is talking complete codswallop!
Thats called " Real men's are talking" . Both are working for our country youth.. God bless them both.
@@spreadpeace1971 improve your English my friend. Must not jumble up words together with the hope of constructing a sentence others may understand.
Welp, not really half - but quarter I must say. Regardless, behtareen conversation and full of meanings.
Junaid Akram is great intellectual person.. Azad can be wealthy but can't question Junaid bhai intellect. What I believe..
True
Is it not better if you dont compare two totally different personalities??
No actually they are quite different. I like Junaid but recently i have come across a few ideas which i would disagree. But still both are good motivators.
What begs the question is does chaiwala have any degree level qualification?
agreed, money can't buy one a class or intellect.
Honestly, being a 16 year old overseas pakistani living in Libya, I've wished a collab between you two for a fairly long time. This is my most favourite podcast junaid bhai, wish to see more collabs!🙂
How r you?
How's Libya?
What do u do in libya?
OSPs obsession with Pakistan is incredibly stupid
Hassan here
@@mogdon2834 what is your problem with we having obsession or not
Don't agree with him on few things but he totally added value to me when he talked about money and skills
Thts true!!especially of taking mortgage I don’t agree on this point...
Agreed. The second wife app idea seems really dodgy.
Money is your only motivation.
23:15 Hats off Junaid. I like it the way you questioned 1st wife rights.
Sahe baat ha ye GF BF culture promote krta ha, or islamic rules ko question krta ha #sastaLiberal
True! This part of the discussion was way off truck for me! How did he come with this new theory of having multiple wives without approval of the first one??!!
@@khezr Because Islam and Allah allow that there is no approval needed
@@ammadarshad2080 eslye Atheists horahy han log respect first women also women b utne he haqdar he jitna mard he, yeh soch rakh kr ham kbhi grow nhi kr skty
@@ammadarshad2080 toh iska matlab quran apni marzi se samje, hadees aur tarjuma e quran ko chor do?
I know a lot of people will disagree with some of the points of Azad! But in reality, he completely covered all the things! hatsOFF 🙌🙌🙌
سب لوگ امیر نہیں بن سکتے قابل بن سکتے ہے
It fixed my mindset
Watched every second without skipping. Really informative discussion.
22:58 Kudos for the honesty. Kya intellectual level tha discussion ka, maja sa aa gaya.
in some of the matters mr azad is confused ... but junaid bhai is just straight and clear in his points
Just because he holds a different opnions that doesn't label him as confused. He simply holds a different opinion and viewpoint to Junaid and yourself. Liberals, small-minded, gora-complex people will likely disagree staunchly with Azaad,
@@essakhan1575 heheeheh ... But as i see Gora Complex approaches is been claimed by Azaad sb ... like doing Marriage without even informing 1st wife ...
@@muhammadharoon5841 That was an extreme and rare situation that Azaad was lead into by Junaid - the reality is that from my observation the majority of people that have a 2nd wife do not do so secretly and infact its not encouraged in Islam to do a Nikah secretly.
@@essakhan1575 Rare Situation Like ? can you elaborate Please Essa bhai
Can you imagine this podcast is literally 2-3 months old. in one podcast junaid said that I have to wind up quickly as azad chaiwala is coming. I always wondered when will this podcast come
1 month max not 2-3 months
@@FahdAzad No bro I am 100% sure that this is atleast 2 month old. ye baat junaid sir nai suneel munj waly podcast sai bhi pehly ki thi.
@@shapackgaming4629 bro wo aik ask ganji sawag thi
@@bugsbunny5253 Mujhy bhi lag raha tha
Yup filmed back in September :)
The patience that Junaid Akram showed throughout this podcast is incredible, at one point you can see his nostrils flaring at Azad's closed minded views on women.
when you talk about women, you relate to your mother, sister, wife....
junaid must have think about women in his life when azad is talking shit about women
Yes, Azad is contradicting his own self by undermining women. How will an economy be efficient if half of the population is not allowed to involve themselves in the creative process?
"Close minded". Yup when owning only fans accounts is deemed as "independence" and "open mind" then surely this must be very conservative to you. WANNABE
Azad is only talking about 2nd wife you called this close minded views.
If you dont have any knowledge of islam thn stop talking shit. Islamic things are not close minded things
Please join mera jism meri marzi and get the hell out of pakistan
Bcz we do not need any gays
Timestamp?
I just realized how much I respect and adore junaid bhai. Azad is although a good motivational speaker but quite unrealistic and dreamy
Nah! I don't think he's unrealistic & dreamy! He saw the world & he know better then normal pakistani!! He motivate us! Maybe he thinks if the talk a little big so he can attract nation to evolution!
@@shahlalysheikh359agree
Ghareeeb Pakistanis Ameer insaan ko Dreamy hi kehty hein Jab k Poora Europe Isi Dreamy Life sy Taraqi kr chuka hai so bro reality is Wo log haqeeqat ma jeety hein or hum khwabon wali life jeety hein
I am very motivated by azad chaiwala for his social work Allah bless you more happiness and success
And Allah also make us like U who can help others
Junaid Sir love U for your useful content ❤
Best podcast so far..Junaid Akram should invite people with divergent views and put up a constructive discussion.
Azad Chaiwala Always Big Motivation
"Sab ka Din Aayega"
Best Line Junaid Bhai
😌😌😌😌
Very nice choice to bring him. Universities of Pakistan are mostly a money making industry, not an academic one.
If the demand for pulao is more in your area, you will see many pulao restaurants, similarly, the demand for degrees is so high in Pakistan, as a result, the universities r never short of customers, only those businesses improve, which have a competition and are feafurl of customers decreasing, but in universities, its the other way around.
Bhai degrees are important, they open the door, baqi skillset hei apka. UAE/Dubai mein visa bhi nahi deti companies agar degree nahi hooon....why the hell ye point koi nahi batata?
@@Evkayne where does it mention degrees as unimportant? The comment above. Its about why universities don't feel the need to change.
Bhai i am from india n i am in bsc and in bioinformatics floppy disc and CDs dVD and what is computer is taught .. You guys are better i think
@@namankhetwal2894 WTH bro, in this video Junaid says that they're teaching high level programming in school level in india, isn't it true?
@@LazyIncubuss i swear bro ..in last semester there was a questions in bioinformatics exam.. That what is computer and what are input and output devices and what are floppy disk .. U can see in youtube by searching previous years question paper kumaon university bioinformatics six sem
folder and stress one was the best. and i agree with Azad bhai in everything. my most two favt UA-camrs in one place together. Thanks Junaid bhai and Azad bhai. Assalamualaikum.
What an amazing episode, loved the way Junaid bhai respected the difference of opinion and still made valid points against it. Although i found a hint of misogyny in Azad chaiwala's conversation but despite that there is massive respect for both of them as they motivate the youth of Pak to hustle for success by whatever means.
Uff rabba which misogyny!!!!
ratherr It is a display of your hypocrisy, that you hate something which Allah has made lawful
@@abdaalahmad5483 did I use the word hate somewhere? Please stop finding negativity in everything around you & let people live
@@naveenirfan4883 Following Allah's only teaching that suits them.
You are correct but Islam mai jayaz hai ye. Is it correct or incorrect ? We can find more such information from Ex Muslim Sahil and Adam Seekers youtube channel
Azad chahiwala is grear imputational man but in some of cases I don't agree with him the other side Junaid akram is legend,, Love this podcast,, when i saw its title and thumbnail i get excited because i know this podcast is going to add a lot of knowledge in my brain
Alot of people forget the part that comes after the limit of 4 wives. "If you fear that you might not treat the orphans justly, then marry the women that seem good to you: two, or three, or four. If you fear that you will not be able to treat them justly, then marry (only) one, or marry from among those whom your right hands possess. This will make it more likely that you will avoid injustice." Allah knows that with multiple wives it is not humanly possible to provide all with same level of love because they are not children they are your spouse. that is why he said it is better for you to have only 1 wife so you don't mistakenly do injustice. I hope azad reads the FULL ayah once again and understands that marrying multiple women is to support them mainly not for satisfying sexual desires because you cant control them. self control is the most important part of Islam.
This comment should be pinned.
That's is exactly what's wrong with the mentality of our society. "permission Lene ki zarorat nai hai" and "and polygamy cx they can't keep it in their..." logic dooor dooor tak choo k b nahi guzri but it's our reality when such a learned man talks about such sensitive topic like "nah bro, polygamy yes, chillings".
@@sharan.sharan In Islam, you should consult/inform your 1st wife for a second marraige. You are not supposed to ask for "permission". Of course, the first wife should know if you are getting married or not. That is unjust to the first wife, which is against Islam. I did my research after this interview and nowhere did I find that you cant marry without your first wife's permission.
@@abdul839 exactly one should! And let's just say for the sake of argument that we should consult and not ask for permission, you still have to DO JUSTICE, if the first wife is unhappy with your decision and feeling hurt, how is that fair? I for one would not be happy no matter what excuse the husband would have to want to get married. I mean loyal and one-woman man should feel offend by the very idea that "men are like wild animal with extra desires and can't really help themselves". If I was a man, I would have.
@@sharan.sharan i was just clearing the point regarding permission. You can consult your wife, try to make her understand why you’re doing so and see if she agrees. If husband is not happy with first wife and wife doesn’t allow second marriage then they should get a divorce or wife can set a condition that if he wants to get married again then he should divorce me first, maybe that will stop the husband from second marriage. Second marriage isn’t an easy thing. And few people why women are not allowed to marry more than once? This is just my opinion and not related to Islam. I think women are not allowed to marry because what if you want to get pregnant. Which husband would wait for 9 months to get intimate with her? Or who’s child she is going to bear first? What if she is pregnant and another husband wants a child or what if she just delivered and next husband wants a child? This would lead to cheating from husband’s side.
I have watched both but now watching them together is really a good investment for me.. I really inspired your statement Azad Bhai and just noticed in this podcast.. biryani pe bikne wale log jb khud biryani khaenge to unki demand barh jaegi..
Brother you are right 👍
But mene dekha comments mein kafi logo ko Jo indirectly behayaii ki he bat kr rahy hain k larkiyo k rights baraber k hain lakin ye saray log Islam se hat k sochte hain or kehte hain k hum educated people hain lakin ap bhi jante Hoge k Islam mukamal zabta e hayat hai . Or thank you mujy acha laga k apki bhi bhot positive soch hai
This guy is reflective of what's actually wrong with the Pakistani society.
100%
How so?
@@abdul839 let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable
he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
@@manansharma6348 You need to understand why men are allowed to have multiple wives.
@@haroon4567 You need to understand that men have to be just and fair to his multiple wives in all things, how is breaking ones heart where she might cry in pain to allah or keeping a wife secret from another "fair and just"
Watching this from India as i am genuine follower of Junaid. And initially i was inspired with the chaiwala guy when he was talking about money and all. The moment he started talking about 2nd wife and all that bs related to removing mathematics and girls with degrees have ego, i lost it. You need better role models people.
It is natural men to have more wife how many shivaji was having ? Was it also bs ? If you dont want dont do it ? Not everyone wants to stalking girls on IG , watch porn , have gf to avoid taking responsibility of wife . Of course after doing this you wont never feel to have another wive . Stop this and you will naturally feel to have one but may be you are not man enough to have res8
@@binhilabiare we living in the same world as 100s of years ago? If not why should we follow the rules that are discriminatory to half of human population
@@rrajputofficial5024 how natural need are supposed to changed after 100 years. I mean after hundre one need d9es not change you will feel hungry and thirsty as any one who did 100 years ago.
@@binhilabi that has nothing to do with "NATURAL NEEDS" marrying 3 wives or marrying 1 wife will change nothing in your life . Stop making stupid arguments . No one is going to wars now a days that you have to marry multiple wives and have multiple children . The earth is getting overpopulated and the resources are in limited amount . Agar koi kisi ko sachha pyar karta hai to vo kisi aur se fir pyar nahi karega aur agar karta hai to usko pehli wali se sirf physical attraction tha (NOWADAYS)
Junaid bahi roasting his cameramans is permanent 😂
where?
@@LetsBeTechy starting ms
I am 19 year old I was wanted to study computer science lakin mery matric ma marks kam ay aur mjhy government college ma admission nhi mila ma private college afford nhi sktha toh mijhy study chorni pari phir ma na ussi sal online kam kia aur Alhamdulilah Millions earn kia, mjhy baad ma pta chala us college ma computer science waly 90% students fail howy thy. Ajj kal university’s waly 25 sal larko ko apny parents sy pocket money mangty howy sharam ani chahia 😂
Thank you Junaid bhai for bringing Azad Chaiwala to the Podcast
His way of speaking shows how skillful he is. Keep it up!
Thank you Junaid for bring him to your show for us
@23:16: Junaid, that was so objective questioning of yours. You sir are truly a class apart!!
My Dream is to see Azad Chaiwala Junaid Akram and Waqar Zaka in one video together
These Three people are Legends of Pakistan
Such a Duo of Gems, Azad & Junaid. Hats off to these Heroes as we need more such inspirational stories in our country.
Which bit is inspiring?
Azad inspirational?😂- this guy doesn’t know half of the shit. I can bet you he could only give this talks in Pakistan where ppl wouldn’t counter for frivolous ideas
@@a-khan2687 we have a crisis of leaders, heroism and mentors. We didn't let anyone clean after prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and made every single person controversial in 1400 years of Muslim Ummah. Currently we need local heros and local success stories. Stop looking for perfection and admire the little good deeds.
@@dashingdecentkhan he’s chatting utter non sense 😂 and you want to give him credit just for sake of it coz we ain’t got “leaders” 😂
@@dashingdecentkhan justifying ur answer with prophet reference? defend kro lekin ye kyaa pagalpan hai
Education is very important, Degrees are important, even if you feel they will not help you later, just get educated... it's also the entire experience of attending the classes/lectures, assignments, exams, stress, failure, success, bonding and a lot of other things, it's also all about the experience. Please pursue your studies, Education is very very important...You can earn the skills as you are getting educated..keep that in mind.
Bump🔥
@@ayesharamzan9110 Well it's true....
You're speaking totally nonsense
@@hamzakhalid6033 what Nonsense?
Listen education is imp when u learn something in pakistan everything is based on ratta... ratta maaro or exam mai likh k a jao here they dont test your skills they test your memory k kitna acha yaad karte ho that is bullshit
Junaid bhai patience ki degree kahan se milti hai? Hats off to how you kept your cool.
salam sir ,today i tell u my brother sucess story my brother just completed his fsc and got admission in bahria university but we have not that much to fulfil the expensices of the uni and our family face toug time too then my brother take decision and go to dubhai to do job and his first job was in government department and till now he is progressing alot mashALLAH only bcz of his determination,communication skills and how to dress up and have confidence to show who u are now we all are happy so my message is to built up your communication skills knows how to communicate to someone and how to dressup confidently
This guy to me comes across as half decent and half sleaze-ball. I don't agree with all of his opinions and niether does Junaid but he has to be commended as to what he has achieved. Kudos.
Two of My favorite revolutionaries in one video
Azad Chaiwala was stuck,when gangi swag asked him your ''institute is not recognized''... haha this is one i was waiting for....
Still his answer make sense
@@SYEDOWAISMUKHTARVLOGS I don't think so..
@@SYEDOWAISMUKHTARVLOGS Degree will stay and support you forever in your country and around the world.. Azad Chaiwala ideas works on uneducated peoples.
@@clickrizwan 100 percent right you are friend
Syed owais which bit makes sense?
Azad chaiwala sir is a true gem to Pakistan & with all honor he's my mentor🙌
He's right about universities not teaching properly but kids at school level have to learn the basics of everything ,maths, arts cause how else will they know what they'd like to study further! teaching just one thing is gonna give them tunnel vision
You are an example of our failed education system for not recognising bs Azad is chatting
@@a-khan2687 well i still got an mbbs degree you worry about you kid
@@drgmod5530 clearly and tbh quite sadly, the degree hasn’t made any difference.
@@a-khan2687 abey ja burger ka thela laga jo Azad chai wala bolta hai.
@@epicxd75 bhai tou apne bhinoyi chai wala ki baat maan
Thank God you invited such a wonderful person and my all time inspiration Azad Bhai on board on this podcast. Thank you Junaid Bhai
The Ultimate Discussion about Pakistan your think absolutely right Every Pakistani need Good thinking brain
A better argument to question regarding permission for second marriage would be: "Do you need permission of parents to get married. Your answer would be k chahiye toh nahin lekin its better k batadein because of the relationship with them and situation. But what if they do not allow you to get married because of XYZ reason, would you tell them or not that you are getting married to some person? Obviously you can't but you will look for a chance to tell them in the future, not k your break the relationship with them or do not do the marriage, you have to take both of them together... Its similar with first wife, its *much much* that better you tell her, but if she doesn't agree, you don't need her permission."
First fully watched podcast 😊
Mind blowing discussion. Hope our country people understand. Good job👍
One of the important podcast for the people of Pakistan. Every one has to watch it.
Yess 😍
Really insightful discussion. Learned and get a lot.
What on earth did you learn and get exactly?!
The way Azad Bhai defended Shariah and handled it with the wisdom by calling Allah the most wise Alhamdulillah!
Alhamdulillah that we are waking up to defend our Deen in this liberal world.
Many people got hurt today who think somehow Islam is imperfect 😊
let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable
he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
Yes, i was very happy too. Too many liberals nowadays in Pakistan but pir bi Pakistan ma Islam ko koi khatra ni. Kpk aur Balochistan bhara hua ha. Ye liberals sirf internet pe thode se ha.
@@muizbhittani6298 Yes they're nearly 1% lekin they're active and we are sleeping.
Ye baat Tuaha ibn Jaleel ne bhi boli thi 😁
Khair nothing to be worried!
Just keep raising voice, wese bhi we are confident about being right. 🇵🇰💚
@@manansharma6348 correct your info brother, he's right we don't need permission from first wife to marry another one.
But we have to make sure we treat second or any wife til fourth Justly.
And one more thing marrying second, third or fourth time is acceptable but not recommended. There is a difference.
Love Azad chaiwala Yakeen karo 80 percent episode main baat he azad bhai ney ki haa That's Why i love him
Dear brother, we are a security state. But it's great that you are making every effort to bring a positive change. Keep it up!
Junaid is certainly in serious concern about what is going on in azad chaiwala mind.
Hahaha
he was very obviously disappointed. XD
Learnt a skill
Learnt it again
Master that skill
Done the work in 1 hour that a normal person will do in 5-8 hour get paid for the time saving with accuracy
And repeat the steps again
Don't stop learning
Two book I will recommend
chanakya arthashastra
Sun Tzu art of war
Thanks bharta ❤️
@@gaurav32257 i have read those two books and they completely changed my life..
@@siddhantmore6999 will surely read them bro.
Knew about chanakya one,... Thanks for recommending the other one
@@erumyaseen read both are gems in economy & military there rules can be applied in real life & business
In the U.S this is already becoming the trend, more people are going for technical and specialized institutions. College is too expensive and student loan debt is like getting a mortgage. I agree with Azad, this is a skill based economy if you don’t learn you don’t earn. Junaid bhai once again great podcast.
Bhai m b US mein rehta hun.
Kya baat kr rhay ho aap 🤣
@@SuperZain121 He is Blind azad chaiwala fan lol
Subscribed the channel after this podcast
Junaid sir, u r very intelactual person.. love & respect from Delhi.
2 great people discussed with each other😍😘😍 Remarkable discussion😍😘
Azad Chaiwala is one of the best motivational speaker in realistic terms 👍🏻
This should've been your 100th podcast actually but better late than never!
mooroo is intellectually way better than azad
@@muhtarammm jo baat hai, plus junaid is closer to mooro and actually respects and supports that guy while chaiwala is just a guest that he had invited to listen to an opposing pov of things which throughout the length of this podcast he didn't agree with.
Extremely bold opinions! Agar yeh genaration inki batoo'n ko smajh jaye to bohat agaye ja sakthi hai.
Azad Chaiwala seems to live in his own world and a lot of his ideas/opinions are far-fetched from reality. Junaid bhai you were an excellent host, impressed you didn't just sit there nodding your head with everything the guest said but challenged his opinion where you disagreed in a very respectful way.
I am too much excited for this stuff.
My two teachers in one podcast.
Learning on peak🔥❣️
Plz share your learnings with us.Can you?
Learn English first for God's sake!
thugs of Pakistan @@muzammilabbas489
If this Podcast started with
*Be Comfortable with Being Uncomfortable*
And ended with it!
It would still be enough for a Far Sighted Person!
Loved it from start to end ❤ Two Legends in One-Frame 🤗
A few opinions changed about Azaad Chaiwala. Hattsoff 👏
Watching this video because of Azad Bhai… lots of love ❤️
Thank you Junaid for bringing such good content forward for Pakistani youngsters...I agree how Azad has mentioned man entrepreneurs should seek supportive wives I think he should have also mentioned ambitious women/women entrepreneurs should only pursue supportive partners as husbands and avoid demanding men to grow in career or business
Two legends in one frame
I don't think so, I prefer what Junaid is saying. This guy is gone beyond his confidence.
@@gg4099 with over confidence look what he have done.
💯💯💯
@@gg4099 He is saying unpractical things.....he is not seeing what innovation,development and research education brings take the example of America,china,japan
@Fan of Deng Xiaoping from Pakistan🇵🇰 Yes instead of improving the education system azad bhai is suggesting to finishing it is not a solution !!!!
Azad is a modern day marketing genius! He will go a long way
Long way to the jail? He is a crook!
Thank you for the enlightenment. Love the doraimon on your table 👍
What a beautiful discussion with two amazing minds... not everyone can understand the depth of this knowledge session and what was being communicated !
They are not discussing rocket science mate 🚀😂. Which bit don't you understand?
Lol amazing minds? Azad has amazing mind? He is a just a Haaji and Mulla two in one walking around in western dress - what's so deep in those talks?
@@deadnlovingit which high court do you sit at ???
@@amazinganimalzone2201 read my comment again and keep reading till you get the answer to your question
@@umairmirza4383 educate yourself pal. It will keep you in good stead.
Azad has great ideas... You can't knock him trying to empower people from ground up...
This the best example of Freedom of speech kudos to mr junaid for giving such an Entrepreneur the platform so that he can bless us with such thought provoking statements which makes so much sense to i don’t know whom . This is what happens when you give money to a 3 year old and surely he can say and do whatever TF he wants.
Like Seriously Millionairoo. 😂
Brilliant point!
This episode was a booster shot ! 💕
Ma Sha Allah g zubrdast m socha krti thi sir Azad bht hmmm mghror s Insan hyn mgr ap ko smjh tb ati hy jb wakye m kise ko sunty hn ruk k KY wo Kiya kehna Cha rha hy jazakallah o khairr sir
Masha Allah.. Very nice and beautiful video.. یاﷲ!!! ہم تیری ہی عبادت کرتے ہیں اور تجھ سے ہی مدد مانگتے ہیں..
Stay blessed and stay connected...💖💖💖💖
Azad bhai is genuinely working hard for others and I love how unapologetic and firm he is in his belief. May Allah bless him with the happiness of boht worlds. Ameen.
Hes an egotistical maniac. Can't you tell? Wake up from your slumber.
Junaid nailed it , Azaad had no answer when he asked him how will we reach a position without a degree to even give an interview
He didn’t have the answer to that but that doesn’t mean that you can’t get to interview .
Bilkul
We can clearly see Junaid didn’t agree with azad chaiwala on most of his ideologies.
but i m sure most of the Pakistan's do agree with him.
😁 if a person gets a BBA and the interviewer asks him about the janitorial skills
He just didn't agree with the second wife marriage without asking thing. Everything was fine/good/great.
@@gmspy007 no not really lol
I also don't agree with azaad bhai 2nd wife thing
the only podcast (of nearly an hour) I ever saw without skipping a sec
Video editing on point man. Akheer skill hai is editor k paas
Two key aspects to professionally grow: A mentor and a specialization
bring him another podcast please, the guy is amazing
While studying in a good institution through professional teachers one learns grooming , good speaking skills , basic manners and how to communicate confidently also one becomes polished and refined.
Agreed
Well said. I think the key is 'good institution' as you mentioned. Unfortunately, most of the people responding want quick bucks and perhaps more than 1 wife. Is the state of Pakistan?! I haven't been in 15 years so wouldn't know really.
Bullshit
@@faisalnafees8413 care to elaborate?
@@faisalnafees8413 if im incorrect, kindly suggest why. Otherwise, go and learn a few more words in English, not just expletives 😄. I can teach you a few if you wish.
Liked the conversation very much...
Mene ye socha hi tha kuch din phle . Azad chaiwala ko bulana chahiye podcast k liye
25:00
FIRST MAN TO GO AGAINT junaid akram
WelDone Azad Chaiwala
You nailed it
ALLAH K LAW K AGAY KUCH NHI
ALLAH HAS GIVEN 4 wives permission to men
let alone allah be wisest but his comment that for second marriage does not require permission of first wife is wrong and unjustifiable
he summed its as women and trapped in social taboo(saheli kya kahengi) however no men too would like to have his wife shared are they too trapped in social taboo? he is foolish man trying to cover unethical activities by putting those on allah and sunnah
@@manansharma6348 bhai islam kehta ha wife se permission lelo ni deti to bina permission ke shadi krlo
Most wives dont allow thats why he is saying ke agr apni wife ko jante ho ache se ke ni dene wali to phr bina permission ke shadi krlo
Skills its okay. But one should have a formal understanding of things before getting into skills. I agree with junaid that, Integration is imp whether it helps or not. Its formal things that make us smart enough to understand whats good and whats bad for us
Beautiful
What do you mean by Formal understanding? 🤣
@@sheikh9809 formal as in organised way of doing things. Learn English mate!
@@amazinganimalzone2201 I asked for elaboration of phrase "Organized Understanding", not that word "Organized". Learn some insightfulness.
@@amazinganimalzone2201 I saw your replies on other comments too, why are you criticizing everyone for there English?
Please invite wildlens by abrar and discussion travel vlogger topic..He is such an amazing guy.and also creative guy..
He's an inspiration but not for everyone. He's a hero traveling alone across country.❤️
This was a cute conversation I should say, with Junaid being an alpha and quickly diverting the topics
Azad bhai is the great person youth ke liye aur wo kahete hain main apka bade bhai hun sound good, aur amir garib kuch nahi manta and wo khud bhi jaruratien puri karne liye paise kamate hain aur youth ko jaruratein puri karne liye kamane ka rasta batate hain .....................mashallah he is a great person and doing great.
This is the wealthiest guy Junaid has had on the podcast
*Azad Chaiwala Talks FACTS & Facts Are Usually Harsh* 👍
He is right till your business is on small scale...for upgrading your business on large scale you need degree holders
@@maisondusavoir3600 except its tech buisness and u dont need much in them...
@@ISyedZainUlAbideen Hahha thats why education is needed.....first of all if you want to upgrade your sole trader business(of any type) to company you need to register it with SECP(you need here a degree holder e.g lawyer or a CA ) . Every year you need to do Audit of your company ,which is done by a CA or CMA . If you install high end machines you need skilled labour to run it.....Here i am not mentioning marketing,logistic handling department....you need skilled guys for it too. Well according to Azad bhai ideology if every teenager will leave education and pop in doing buisness then who will do Audits,tax filing, handle legal cases,managing company financial muscle ??????.there will be a time when market will get saturated and all old guys will subsequently charge high for there services which result in diseconomies of scale.
The two legends in one frame ❤️🇵🇰
Still there is tons of difference between the two
@@usamatahir9782 But both are doing well but in different pattern
Honestly one of the best podcast i have seen
23:22 damnn 👌🏻 junaid bhai ka response
I am watching this interview and stopping it intermittently, just to re-think Kay ye waqye Azad Chaiwala Hain. It's not less than hard talk for Azad bhay 🤭
What a great podcast. Seriously I learned alot from this video. Hats off to you Junaid sir. Thank you for this wonderful podcast. If you want to do something big in life you can do it.
23:00 I'm quite baffled. If educated men think like this, then there isn't much hope. I wonder what his wife thinks of his opinion.
One of his posts he said when he asked his wife's hand in marriage he put the condition before marriage that he will have multiple marriages. I say okay if all parties agree then do whatever the you want but saying women don't know what they want is fucking bullshit. What kind of mentality is that?
If she follows Islam, she would know. If she follows western ideas, she wouldn't mind zina
@@ssajid40 If a man commits Zina this is solely his fault. He is the one not following Islam. Punishment of adultery is stoned to death the one who commits Zina not his wife who doesn't want him to marry another woman. So do not pull this narcissistic shit on women. Men have been manipulating women in the name of Islam long enough. This dude is basically preaching that men should deceive and lie to their life partners.
When Nabi salat o salam was asked Momin can be a bakheel? Nabi salat o salam said yes
Then asked Momin can be a coward?
Nabi salat o salam said yes.
Then asked can a momin be a liar?
Nabi salat o salam said "No, whoever lies and deceives is not one of us."
So what kind of Islam This dude is following?
@@mzmz8354 dont misquote different topic Hadith and confront them to each other, Hadiths can never come in conflict with each other, first seek guidance from the literature that where did u find permission of the first wife is necessary then post these claims that u know for a fact, U guys wont allow Nabi SAW (Nauzubillah) to marry more than once like this, its like asking our societies for these permissions
@@Shreaadedaa Okay here's another hadith for you I am keeping it short you can search it yourself. Regarding wives's right.
Hazrat Ali ne nabi salat o salam se abu jahl ki beti se dusri shadi ki jab ijazt mangi toh Nabi salat o salam ne farmaya k Ali Nabi ki beti k haqooq k muamlat main Allah se daro. Hazrat Ali ne na sirf dusri shadi ka irada tarq kia balky Fatima A.S ki hayat e mubarak main unho ne kabhi doosri shadi nahi ki...
You gotta consider your wife's opinion on that matter. You make her your life partner. When a man marries 2 women they become family too. First wife should have the right to at least choose her family.
love to see both of you , both intellectual people.
Two of my favourite people from Pakistani social media stream