Personally if a creator is hosting a collab and drops the level then the other creators are well within their rights to pick it back up and finish the level, people need to realise that you don’t earn money from making a good level so it may as well be finished so the creators’ efforts don’t go to waste and the community gets the level they were waiting for.
arguably you do earn money from showcasing and stuff and also clout. and you have to remember the original creators can sometimes get less credit and it can be kinda unfair (if they don’t give permission)
@@lavatrex music copyright would likely step in the way of that and length of a showcase isn't likely to get to the mark for ads on yt, and that could also just apply to showcase ytbers like Nexus so that's free reign
@@lavatrex creators dont earn shit from showcasing unless you are well known , most of they money goes to big showcase channels or even worse channels like fnm or exen
“One of the biggest reasons why geometry dash hasnt died down yet is because of how active its community has been over the last 10 years” “every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes”
this was a big deal back then because fusion series were best levels in this game. now that these series feel forgotten i feel like people wont realise how big of a deal this was really. the only levels that could have stood up to fusion were something like boj and osiris. it really had nothing to be compared with.
Lots have already said it but your content is really good. You research the topic well, well informed, unbiased, well edited videos too, and great audio quality as well!
This is such a great video! It kept me hooked the entire time, not just because Fusion Z and Molten Gear are some of my favs, but because the storytelling and music you put together was just SUPER cool and entertaining. Super underrated video, keep doing what you're doing ✊
i appreciate the support and feedback man, thank you so much. im really glad you enjoyed it, and i'll def continue to make videos like this in the future:)
What a petty situation, Manix literally surrendered the level. Also a collab doesn't have an owner, it can have a host and an uploader. If the host gives up hosting, they no longer have any rights over the level.
No idea why anyone would actually respect his wishes just because he hosted it. That’s dumb as fuck, “sorry guys I know you poured your heart and soul into this level and spent tons of time working on it, now I’m giving up on it and your a meanie if you try to continue making it” if anything it’s not disrespectful to continue the project, it’s disrespectful to ask a large group of people to throw their hard work in the garbage simply because he said so.
I remember back in the days I considered this level as a pillar, one of the few first XL extreme demons that looked impossible with Yatagarasu and another one I forgot (maybe it was when Blade of Justice had just been announced in a SEA1997's video), I was so excited to its release. Damn I didn't know the real story that happened after, that sucks, there was so much hype for the old version
For some reason, the biggest level stealing drama for me is one of the levels called instinct because there are literally two different estimated extreme demons that are very similar to each other and have the same part of krmal like dude why. But still the video is great, keep it up man
I have never, in my entire life, been so surprised to see a video like this have *just* 300~ views. this video was SO good that I didn’t even realize how little attention this is getting, wow. You deserve so much more!!
Being mad that someone would respect the hard work of other creators by not letting a level die is some actual psyco shit. Like wherwen throwing a fit over it is literally insane.
personally, i think that once other people have built on a collab you hosted, it's not "yours" anymore. sure, you could request them to remove YOUR part specifically, but if people want to do something with their parts, you dont have the right to stop them.
@@Periwinkleaccount that same logic can be applied to the people that built their parts. they made it, so they should have some kind of control over it.
Everyone has been saying this but, you’re really really underrated in the GD community and I hope you the best future. Why I like this channel: You pick really well known topics or you pick lesser known topics mainly known by more involved GD community members. I LOVE the editing you’ll definitely become one of the most well known documentary style. And WOW you really did your research I have watched many documentary style vids but this one particular is really well researched . Your videos are getting better and better as they go on I hope you become one of the go -to GD channel for information and history :) SUBSCRIBED BTW
Great as always Syntee! I remember when Fusion Z was like the number 1 big project that everyone was hyping about, I think I even submitted an entry to the fusion z creator contest (I was like 10 at the time so it was obviously pretty terrible) but it was fun nonetheless. See you next video syntee!
Personally it would be disrespectful for someone outside the core team to steal the level and verify it, but I feel that knobbelboy has a case because he was a part of the core team. I was one of the people who sided with knob back in the day.
wasted a whopping 1.5 years of the community's time working on a level that was completely outside of his skill range, destroyed his mental health on stream constantly. skullo beat it in 2 weeks. hope it was worth it bro.
It feels kinda childish that just because the host doesn’t like the game anymore, that every other creators work is a waste. I’ll never understand why manix was so butthurt about a level in a game he doesn’t even play anymore
This documentary is so well made, you deserve more subs. If only you upload more often you could be big in short time. Though i know you might have reasons
WAIT WHAT…. You deserve wayyyy more subscribers and I mean way way more. I subbed and liked. If you just keep doing what you’re doing and keep this quality for the your videos you’ll be the biggest gd UA-camr ever.
I feel all of this would be solved if hosts would make some sort of agreement before shoving people in (Not like a full on contract, but at least a verbal/written agreement), that way the answer of if they're allowed to do this or not can be boiled down to checking what the agreement says. If you don't have any sort of agreement in regards of what the creators can do with their parts, you quite literally have nothing to adhere to that prevents them from using it for their own purposes, and you cannot just bring it out of your sleeve at random and have everyone agree to it.
I mean, he can wish not to want the level to be associated with him anymore, but he can't ask for it to die out and let all of the effort the creators put in it go to waste, he doesn't own the work that they put so he doesn't have any authority over it. That being said, creators themselves can rightfully ask for their part to be removed, I just find it kind of silly that they did it solely because of Manix's request which quite frankly seems kinda selfish to me, maybe there's some external reason for it but I still don't find it quite right Either way I think Knobbelboy was in the right here, Manix didn't have any rights to ask for everyone's hard work to be erased
My take why wasn’t the asking of parts to stay or be removed done sooner? We were fresh of of three ( four if cyclic counts) part of both or combination in Yatagarasu and blade of justice?
"one of the biggest reasons why geometry dash hasnt really died down yet is because of how active the community has remained over the past 10 years" isnt that just the game not dying?
Bruh why the hell would manix be so annoying, like he can stop working and move himself away from the project if he wants to, but you can’t just stop other people from continuing it without you after that. Anyone else would be glad to see people caring about your level so much. The fact that he had him change the name, remove his parts and insist it isn’t part of his series is so unnecessary.
I remember this drama a lot -This caused a lot of stuff, like crazen stealing bloodlust and justifying it with a taste with its own medicine -Also manix was getting tired because of lots of verifiers dropping the level, i remember some of the verifiers back in the day, like surv, hequinox and some more that are probably forgotten a long time ago Really good video i got in my recommended
Very slight edit: you mentioned progress was halted, but never specified why. Big reason was that nobody was actually willing to see the verification through. It was given to a good number of the best players at the time, including Surv, Trusta, and Sunix, and they all dropped the level after a little bit. I don't believe it was necessarily because it was astronomically hard, either, just that the level itself was simply unfun and extremely annoying to them. I forget the number of players the level went through, but at some point Manix realized either he had to seriously nerf the level to get it verified (like Blade of Justice) or the level would never see the light of day. So he just dropped it. And then the whole controversy with Knobbelboy happened. Back then, and even now, I sided with Knobbelboy pretty wholeheartedly. After all, Manix may have gathered everyone to make this level, but that didn't necessarily make every single creation his property. It felt selfish to just drop something that was already completed by all means and try to prevent it from ever being released, especially when other people were involved. It was on a similar level as Mefewe refusing to allow Sonic Wave Infinity, a level he had no part in creating, to be verified by anyone else, despite Serponge and Funnygame both down with someone else getting the level verified. And though I agreed with the resolution that came out (drop the creators that didn't want their parts released and keep the ones that wanted to see it through, and change the level name), I still wonder why the whole conflict was even necessary to begin with.
yup! this is really important to the whole thing, definitely should've included something about it in the video. i appreciate you taking the time to give us more info :)
@@SynteeGD limbo had a worse time in development than god eater lmao. Everyone kept dropping parts mindcap almost cut the level completely and alot of things happened it was literally "in limbo"
I agree with knoppleboy. it's selfish of manix to want the level to die even though so many people loved and cared for the project. I'm happy they were able to come to a compromise though
I think you failed to mention a big reason why Manix decided to cancel Fusion Z in the first place - everyone who tried to verify it ended up dropping it, and it was in a very similar situation to another Manix level, Blade of Justice. The original version of Fusion Z was completed in late 2016, before 2.1 even came out, and now all that was left was to get it verified, but that proved to be far easier said than done because for its time, Fusion Z was way too fucking hard primarily due to its crushing length. Over the course of almost a year the level was stuck in verification hell with it being passed between Surv, DiamondSplash and ChiefFlurry (I can't remember if there were any other players who verification was assigned to), all of whom ended up dropping the level, with ChiefFlurry just kinda sitting on it and not making any progress for a really long time. Of course, extreme demon verifications lasting almost or over a year aren't that uncommon nowadays, but this was a much different time where 2.1 was still a fresh update and extreme demons were generally expected to be verified in a relatively quick amount of time lest they end up falling behind newer levels both in terms of style and their potential place on the demon list. Manix had already had a bit of trauma around this sort of thing with Blade of Justice, which after being passed between like 7 different verifiers fell in the hands of RicoLP, who had to nerf it significantly in order to verify it before the level turned one year old, sacrificing Manix's original vision of it being a top 1 demon in favour of being ranked at #23 on the demon list. What I think happened is that Manix did not want Fusion Z suffering the same fate of being nerfed, and thus decided it would be better off cancelling what he saw as an outdated level (by this point we were 10 months into 2.1 and Fusion Z was a 2.0 level) over nerfing it just to get it verified.
FYI If you're wondering how I remember all of this, it's because I was an avid SEA1997 watcher at the time and he covered the Fusion Z verification hell and the following level stealing drama with knobbelboy on G-News - you should be able to find these videos in his GD playlist.
I side with Knobbleboy. First time the level is absolutely amazing and just to let it die was unfair to all the creators that spent their time working on it. And I feel like it’s fair game for any creator that took part of it to try to continue finishing it if the host is giving up all rights to the level. I see it as an open verification. The host or creator of the level that has a open verification is giving the right to any serious verifiers to modify or change the level if they are capable of successfully verifying it.
imo if you host a collab with that many people you shouldnt just cancel it, step out of the project and let soneone else fill your place so that nobody's effort goes to waste
Watching this just makes me disappointed in manix why just quit a level outta no where when it's a collab. People put time and effort into creating that just for him to say yeah I'm not doing it don't upload it or finish it it's mind boggling
Personally I think its fine of knobbleboy and geomania to continue fusion z. As i personally think its disrespectful to kill off a level because 1 creator was done with GD. I understand that Fusion was manix's legacy. But its unfair to the other creator's time to just shut it down. He easily could've just given it so someone else with the stipulation that it stays under the fusion name. But instead he selfishly chose to dump likely hundreds-thousands of hours of effort and free labor down the drain. I think knobbleboy is well within his own rights to be angry. And i dont think that should be a controversial opinion.
WHY DOES THE CUBE HAVE GLOW IN THE THUMBNAIL BUT NOT THE SHIP WTFF
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Wait I just realized 💀
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Personally if a creator is hosting a collab and drops the level then the other creators are well within their rights to pick it back up and finish the level, people need to realise that you don’t earn money from making a good level so it may as well be finished so the creators’ efforts don’t go to waste and the community gets the level they were waiting for.
arguably you do earn money from showcasing and stuff and also clout. and you have to remember the original creators can sometimes get less credit and it can be kinda unfair
(if they don’t give permission)
@@lavatrex music copyright would likely step in the way of that and length of a showcase isn't likely to get to the mark for ads on yt, and that could also just apply to showcase ytbers like Nexus so that's free reign
@@silksongoutyet good argument (as long as the creators still get credit)
@@lavatrex creators dont earn shit from showcasing unless you are well known , most of they money goes to big showcase channels or even worse channels like fnm or exen
@@white_man1352 i’m not talking about money i mean that they get credit for their work
could i just find a dead collab and say i made all of it?
“One of the biggest reasons why geometry dash hasnt died down yet is because of how active its community has been over the last 10 years” “every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes”
yeah idk what was going through my head when I wrote that
😂😂😂
what about europe
this was a big deal back then because fusion series were best levels in this game. now that these series feel forgotten i feel like people wont realise how big of a deal this was really. the only levels that could have stood up to fusion were something like boj and osiris. it really had nothing to be compared with.
fusion levels are a product of their time, and I also feel you're putting them on a very high pedestal for what they are.
Lots have already said it but your content is really good. You research the topic well, well informed, unbiased, well edited videos too, and great audio quality as well!
i'm really glad you enjoyed it man, thank you, it means a lot:)
This is such a great video! It kept me hooked the entire time, not just because Fusion Z and Molten Gear are some of my favs, but because the storytelling and music you put together was just SUPER cool and entertaining. Super underrated video, keep doing what you're doing ✊
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reply with d if you agree
i appreciate the support and feedback man, thank you so much. im really glad you enjoyed it, and i'll def continue to make videos like this in the future:)
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What a petty situation, Manix literally surrendered the level. Also a collab doesn't have an owner, it can have a host and an uploader. If the host gives up hosting, they no longer have any rights over the level.
interesting take!
Exactly.
Tho they still have rights on the parts they created
@@Craxksbut that’s a moot point since he removed his part from the level.
agree, and that seems like what happened in the end as individual creators could remove their parts@@Craxks
No idea why anyone would actually respect his wishes just because he hosted it. That’s dumb as fuck, “sorry guys I know you poured your heart and soul into this level and spent tons of time working on it, now I’m giving up on it and your a meanie if you try to continue making it” if anything it’s not disrespectful to continue the project, it’s disrespectful to ask a large group of people to throw their hard work in the garbage simply because he said so.
I remember back in the days I considered this level as a pillar, one of the few first XL extreme demons that looked impossible with Yatagarasu and another one I forgot (maybe it was when Blade of Justice had just been announced in a SEA1997's video), I was so excited to its release. Damn I didn't know the real story that happened after, that sucks, there was so much hype for the old version
For some reason, the biggest level stealing drama for me is one of the levels called instinct because there are literally two different estimated extreme demons that are very similar to each other and have the same part of krmal like dude why. But still the video is great, keep it up man
0:17 is the most clean transition of the next decade
Its goddamn criminal how underrated you are, especially considering the quality of your content
His content is *okay* but it kinda feels like every other gd documentary
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@@gooseinatuxedothat's the point
@@ZphyZphyer ?
0:38 im sorry but this is hilarious, like who would be building a fully decorated part first and then placing the gamemode portals? xDD
I have never, in my entire life, been so surprised to see a video like this have *just* 300~ views.
this video was SO good that I didn’t even realize how little attention this is getting, wow.
You deserve so much more!!
he started uploading 1 month ago btw
Being mad that someone would respect the hard work of other creators by not letting a level die is some actual psyco shit. Like wherwen throwing a fit over it is literally insane.
personally, i think that once other people have built on a collab you hosted, it's not "yours" anymore. sure, you could request them to remove YOUR part specifically, but if people want to do something with their parts, you dont have the right to stop them.
Other people shouldn’t have permission to do anything that they want with something that you made.
@@Periwinkleaccount But HE did not make it, THEY did. It is not HIS level it is THEIR level.
@@hman378 exactly what i was gonna say lol
@@hman378 Still, but it’s something that I would have made, so I should at least have some kind of control over it.
@@Periwinkleaccount that same logic can be applied to the people that built their parts. they made it, so they should have some kind of control over it.
Everyone has been saying this but, you’re really really underrated in the GD community and I hope you the best future. Why I like this channel: You pick really well known topics or you pick lesser known topics mainly known by more involved GD community members.
I LOVE the editing you’ll definitely become one of the most well known documentary style. And WOW you really did your research I have watched many documentary style vids but this one particular is really well researched . Your videos are getting better and better as they go on I hope you become one of the go -to GD channel for information and history :) SUBSCRIBED BTW
@@SynteeGDyeah, your welcome keep up the good work:)
You’re brutally underrated, Peak video bro!
thank you, really means a lot:) im glad you liked it!
bruh your first video popped up on my feed a month ago, and i'm glad that i stayed around... great content!
thank you for sticking around, im glad you're enjoying the content:)
Great as always Syntee! I remember when Fusion Z was like the number 1 big project that everyone was hyping about, I think I even submitted an entry to the fusion z creator contest (I was like 10 at the time so it was obviously pretty terrible) but it was fun nonetheless. See you next video syntee!
that's actually pretty cool lol, glad you enjoyed:)
Personally it would be disrespectful for someone outside the core team to steal the level and verify it, but I feel that knobbelboy has a case because he was a part of the core team. I was one of the people who sided with knob back in the day.
Underrated youtuber tbh, up there with other gd drama videos and stuff, do you edit yourself?
thank you man I'm glad you enjoyed:) and yeah I do edit the vids myself!
good job bro! :D@@SynteeGD
wasn't exen/neiro somehow related to fusion z or something?
wasted a whopping 1.5 years of the community's time working on a level that was completely outside of his skill range, destroyed his mental health on stream constantly. skullo beat it in 2 weeks. hope it was worth it bro.
woah, this popped up on my recommended and this is amazing
It feels kinda childish that just because the host doesn’t like the game anymore, that every other creators work is a waste. I’ll never understand why manix was so butthurt about a level in a game he doesn’t even play anymore
fusion z is one of my favourite levels, and i never knew this whole legacy to it,,,
cool video mate 😸
I like your commentary, and you have a nice voice. Subscriber gained
this was what i was searching for. finally someone made a video.
hope you enjoyed!
BRO I WAS JUST WATCHING YOUR CHANNEL LIKE 30 MINS AGO XD
Same lmfao
@@jakupwhowhere what the fck are you talking about
what?@@jakupwhowhere
This documentary is so well made, you deserve more subs. If only you upload more often you could be big in short time. Though i know you might have reasons
Nice video! The script almost sounds like it was generated by ChatGPT for some reason, but I still found this very interesting.
I'd actually argue that woodkid is a much more serious case of theft but not as influential
Actually that's a great video ❤
I wasn't sure at first because it was the first time i see this channel
WAIT WHAT…. You deserve wayyyy more subscribers and I mean way way more. I subbed and liked. If you just keep doing what you’re doing and keep this quality for the your videos you’ll be the biggest gd UA-camr ever.
What level is the thumbnail from?
its from the bossfight in molten gear:)
@SynteeGD cool, thank you
I feel all of this would be solved if hosts would make some sort of agreement before shoving people in (Not like a full on contract, but at least a verbal/written agreement), that way the answer of if they're allowed to do this or not can be boiled down to checking what the agreement says.
If you don't have any sort of agreement in regards of what the creators can do with their parts, you quite literally have nothing to adhere to that prevents them from using it for their own purposes, and you cannot just bring it out of your sleeve at random and have everyone agree to it.
Very good video that summed up the whole molten gear situation pretty well.
thank you:) im glad you liked it!
I mean, he can wish not to want the level to be associated with him anymore, but he can't ask for it to die out and let all of the effort the creators put in it go to waste, he doesn't own the work that they put so he doesn't have any authority over it. That being said, creators themselves can rightfully ask for their part to be removed, I just find it kind of silly that they did it solely because of Manix's request which quite frankly seems kinda selfish to me, maybe there's some external reason for it but I still don't find it quite right
Either way I think Knobbelboy was in the right here, Manix didn't have any rights to ask for everyone's hard work to be erased
I love the progress bar during the 2 seconds you asked us to subscribe
I still think Manix should let the level be verified and uploaded nowadays, it still holds up as a great level today.
My take why wasn’t the asking of parts to stay or be removed done sooner? We were fresh of of three ( four if cyclic counts) part of both or combination in Yatagarasu and blade of justice?
"one of the biggest reasons why geometry dash hasnt really died down yet is because of how active the community has remained over the past 10 years"
isnt that just the game not dying?
yeah now that I think abt it that was a really stupid intro
Level stealing the worst strategy for making a level
Remember me when your famous, 2k subs is wild
0:18 bro turned 80 for a second
What is name of the level that is in the background throughout hole time?
i used gameplay from lots of different levels, but the ones that appeared the most were astral divinity, molten gear, limbo, and bloodlust
"Geometry dash it's not about Jumping Cube. It's about drawing who has great artistic NFT they make"
- Newgrounds Femboy probably ?
when no idea is original but originality is a top priority.
Bruh why the hell would manix be so annoying, like he can stop working and move himself away from the project if he wants to, but you can’t just stop other people from continuing it without you after that. Anyone else would be glad to see people caring about your level so much. The fact that he had him change the name, remove his parts and insist it isn’t part of his series is so unnecessary.
youre hands down the most underrated content creator in the community. keep making videos like these, youll get to places in notime. loved the video!
thank you man this means a lot to me:)) im glad you enjoyed it!
7:58 thats not the early version. Fusion Z 1.9 is a complete remake from scratch
yep I realized this a bit too late, thank you for clarifying! :)
This video somehow is uploaded right in the middle of me beating it???? Bizarre coincidence
I remember this drama a lot
-This caused a lot of stuff, like crazen stealing bloodlust and justifying it with a taste with its own medicine
-Also manix was getting tired because of lots of verifiers dropping the level, i remember some of the verifiers back in the day, like surv, hequinox and some more that are probably forgotten a long time ago
Really good video i got in my recommended
yeah, its kinda crazy that all this happened 6-7 years ago, and thank you im glad you enjoyed:)
Stealing bloodlust is much diff😂 what are you talking about
you are so underrated. good video. keep it up!
thank you for the kind words, im glad you enjoyed the video :))
Very slight edit: you mentioned progress was halted, but never specified why.
Big reason was that nobody was actually willing to see the verification through. It was given to a good number of the best players at the time, including Surv, Trusta, and Sunix, and they all dropped the level after a little bit. I don't believe it was necessarily because it was astronomically hard, either, just that the level itself was simply unfun and extremely annoying to them. I forget the number of players the level went through, but at some point Manix realized either he had to seriously nerf the level to get it verified (like Blade of Justice) or the level would never see the light of day. So he just dropped it. And then the whole controversy with Knobbelboy happened.
Back then, and even now, I sided with Knobbelboy pretty wholeheartedly. After all, Manix may have gathered everyone to make this level, but that didn't necessarily make every single creation his property. It felt selfish to just drop something that was already completed by all means and try to prevent it from ever being released, especially when other people were involved. It was on a similar level as Mefewe refusing to allow Sonic Wave Infinity, a level he had no part in creating, to be verified by anyone else, despite Serponge and Funnygame both down with someone else getting the level verified. And though I agreed with the resolution that came out (drop the creators that didn't want their parts released and keep the ones that wanted to see it through, and change the level name), I still wonder why the whole conflict was even necessary to begin with.
yup! this is really important to the whole thing, definitely should've included something about it in the video. i appreciate you taking the time to give us more info :)
Im... early.
While I'm here, hello Syntee. Congrats on hitting 2k 🎉🎉
hey! thank you very much man:)
Hell yea! I loved this video, its actually my first time watching your channel and i already loved it, keep it up man 1+ sub my boi :D
welcome man, and thank you so much for the support:) im glad you enjoyed the vid, more to come soon!
Limbo "no problem with development" 1:33
what happened w limbo?
@@SynteeGD limbo had a worse time in development than god eater lmao. Everyone kept dropping parts mindcap almost cut the level completely and alot of things happened it was literally "in limbo"
why change icon
very well made video bro, ur underrated
I appreciate it man, im glad you enjoyed the vid:)
what a throwback
fun fact: viprin never hosted AA in the beginning but Anubis did
yep! only reason why I put viprin was cause he uploaded, made it a little more simple
how do you only have 2k
u deserve to have 100k
Get ready to do analysis on 2.2
its ridiculous that anyone agreed with manix
Your videos are so interesting
glad you like them, thank you:)
I feel like it would've been best to just put a video of it on youtube. It won't be forgotten, but it won't be on the servers.
underrated af vid :)
At least it was a good ending, extremely well made video.
glad you enjoyed:) and yeah we don't see a good ending too often with gd drama
we making it out of 2.0 with this one 🔥🔥🔥
Doesn't gd say when you upload a level by uploading you give creators the right to use your level in any way?
pretty sure!
I agree with knoppleboy. it's selfish of manix to want the level to die even though so many people loved and cared for the project. I'm happy they were able to come to a compromise though
No way blawg took 1:47 minutes to get to the point
This is so pity I don’t see what’s so wrong about finishing and realising the level, the creator obv didn’t care about the level so why😂
BRO YOU SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR BEING THIS UNDERRATED
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in my opinion they should have deleted manix's part and remake his part then upload the level
I think you failed to mention a big reason why Manix decided to cancel Fusion Z in the first place - everyone who tried to verify it ended up dropping it, and it was in a very similar situation to another Manix level, Blade of Justice. The original version of Fusion Z was completed in late 2016, before 2.1 even came out, and now all that was left was to get it verified, but that proved to be far easier said than done because for its time, Fusion Z was way too fucking hard primarily due to its crushing length. Over the course of almost a year the level was stuck in verification hell with it being passed between Surv, DiamondSplash and ChiefFlurry (I can't remember if there were any other players who verification was assigned to), all of whom ended up dropping the level, with ChiefFlurry just kinda sitting on it and not making any progress for a really long time. Of course, extreme demon verifications lasting almost or over a year aren't that uncommon nowadays, but this was a much different time where 2.1 was still a fresh update and extreme demons were generally expected to be verified in a relatively quick amount of time lest they end up falling behind newer levels both in terms of style and their potential place on the demon list.
Manix had already had a bit of trauma around this sort of thing with Blade of Justice, which after being passed between like 7 different verifiers fell in the hands of RicoLP, who had to nerf it significantly in order to verify it before the level turned one year old, sacrificing Manix's original vision of it being a top 1 demon in favour of being ranked at #23 on the demon list. What I think happened is that Manix did not want Fusion Z suffering the same fate of being nerfed, and thus decided it would be better off cancelling what he saw as an outdated level (by this point we were 10 months into 2.1 and Fusion Z was a 2.0 level) over nerfing it just to get it verified.
FYI If you're wondering how I remember all of this, it's because I was an avid SEA1997 watcher at the time and he covered the Fusion Z verification hell and the following level stealing drama with knobbelboy on G-News - you should be able to find these videos in his GD playlist.
real interesting, thanks for the added context:)
I side with Knobbleboy. First time the level is absolutely amazing and just to let it die was unfair to all the creators that spent their time working on it. And I feel like it’s fair game for any creator that took part of it to try to continue finishing it if the host is giving up all rights to the level. I see it as an open verification. The host or creator of the level that has a open verification is giving the right to any serious verifiers to modify or change the level if they are capable of successfully verifying it.
This video made me realize how petty manix is lmaoo
Brilliant video
glad you liked it:)
good video man
wtf thank you xanii I appreciate it!!
Yoi have only 4 videos, but i saw all of them so interesting. Subscribing right now!!!!
Dude how does this have 900 views brooo this video is great
im really glad you enjoyed the vid man, thank you for watching:)
´the reason geometry dash hasnt realy died yet is because of how active the comunity has remained´ so true, in other news water is wet
no idea what I was thinking
ain't no way this guy called bloodlust "manix's level"
He literally built it with a few other creators but ok
i thought he was host but maybe I'm wrong and thinking of another level?
Yo nice video!!! Can u give me a simple gd dare for a video?
play the most disliked demon level
imo if you host a collab with that many people you shouldnt just cancel it, step out of the project and let soneone else fill your place so that nobody's effort goes to waste
bro is gonna become a big gd youtuber
this looks like john pork
How does Knob always get into controversy
i 100% support knobbelboy in his decision. manix did the least for the level to be allowed to just kill it
imo organizing a collab isnt as easy as it sounds but yeah
bruh, am I the only one concerned about how viprin is in almost every megacollab
surprised he didn't ask manix to upload it on his own account
Watching this just makes me disappointed in manix why just quit a level outta no where when it's a collab. People put time and effort into creating that just for him to say yeah I'm not doing it don't upload it or finish it it's mind boggling
Anyone else who was expecting a twist before the video ended because they weren't lloking at the time?
thats how roblox community is active too, people make games and games copy each other
Just guessing before i watch the vid. I bet its the yatagarsu by manix648 that drama was huge
if he quit the game why does he care what happens.
Megacollab is a word by RobTop it's explained in the manual lol
Personally I think its fine of knobbleboy and geomania to continue fusion z. As i personally think its disrespectful to kill off a level because 1 creator was done with GD. I understand that Fusion was manix's legacy. But its unfair to the other creator's time to just shut it down. He easily could've just given it so someone else with the stipulation that it stays under the fusion name. But instead he selfishly chose to dump likely hundreds-thousands of hours of effort and free labor down the drain. I think knobbleboy is well within his own rights to be angry. And i dont think that should be a controversial opinion.