I hate how everyone is against OP because it’s not his fault that OP’s ex married the wrong man after the divorce, I would say the ex should stop living in some fantasy that’s not gonna happen. OP’s first mistake was not blocking the ex and OP’s ex should have gone after the bio father for child support.
because everyone is baby rabid brainwashed. a mix of stockholme syndrome and crab in the bucket and dog in manger. parenthood is sh**y. there is plenty of information out there that it is not the fairy tale crapola the media and others use as propaganda. the NO wins. anyone who tries and bully someone into having unwanted kids are the enemy
@@LunaP1sadly this type of person won't. She'll only care and be sorry about what directly affects her. She doesn't even care about how her current actions will affect her children.
I feel so bad for the few friends that I blew off what they told me about exs, because I thought no one could possibly actually say shit like that. then my fiance and I got pregnant, and he dropped the mask that had been hiding the narcissism and I started to get the kinds of comments that I had once blown off as an overdramatic friend lying and blowing things out of proportion. and there doesn't even seem to be mental gymnastics involved, they seriously think they're that right on everything, at all times. literally cannot fathom that their bullshit isn't correct
So it's okay for the bio dad to decide he doesn't want children, but it's not okay for OP to make the same decision and be responsible about that decision? WTH
Pretty disgusting that his family take his ex's side. He didn't want kids and she did. So they weren't compatible and now they want him to break up with his current fiancée? Block them and go NC.
No, she wants what she has Always wanted. Her and OP to be a family. The whole picture show. OP as hubby and Dad,her as wife and Mom, the house with the dog and both of them raising "their child".
@lindah3803 and to that kind of person "family" means free labor, simply put she wants someone to exploit. Not his kids, not his shit to deal with, her wants are not OPs obligations.
@@kinosaga21 True, it's not his obligation at all. I still think she wants her "picture show". Yes, that gives her the opportunity to use him as she wants.
i don’t know why people think the transplant story is fake. imagine my surprise when i found out that my ex-husband is my 2nd cousin. he’s white and i’m black. his great grandmother was my grandfather’s sister. she was a white passing black woman. my paternal grandfather was born in 1899. i found this out in the early 2000’s. i left him due to him being crazy and abusive (now i know why, i swear it’s genetic) and confirmed it with ancestry dna tests with our son recently
Simple. There are folks on Reddit whose sole purpose is to "prove" a story to be fake . Some believe that because an OP "left out something" in the original post,he/she is hiding something. So their story is fake. With a story like this, there's a whole different line up of assumptions/questions. The whole: This story has to be fake. There's no way you didn't feel a familial connection to your spouse. If you look so much like her Dad, you would've gotten tested. Just to make sure. There's no way you wouldn't have told your "wife" before the surgery. People on Reddit forget/don't take into account that the OP has posted their story when their life has just been blown up. Some situations just happened. Others took place very recently. These are people looking for advice,not English/Spelling lessons, be called a lier or insulted and degraded by Reddit. Depending on the situation and the OP just how angry, deceived, desperate or heartbroken they are. Unfortunately,an OP has to view the idiots of Reddit to get to the people who truly want to help the OP.
I know my childs father is my 2nd cousin. When we did dna markers alot of them match. Our moms are from the same town in mexico and my grandmothers side of men, where cartel and promusicious. Long story short my daughter was from his sa. But i stayed quiet .
Every person who is getting married or even seriously dating should have a DNA Test. Not only because of adoption but also sperm and egg donations and also family secrets. I know two people who had to tell their kids that they couldn't date certain people cause they were their half siblings after they had already started dating them. They were told the truth after they had brought them home to meet the parents.
Won't happen because of risk-reward. Like, even a full 1st cousin is usually not a big issue if it happens for one generation, and everyone further than 2nd cousin is completely irrelevant. Therefore, the only real risks are literally unknown half siblings.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it.
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
Bro, I feel so bad for the original poster. Imagine living in a world where you’re the only sane person and everyone around you is crazy trying to claim it’s your fault a random child doesn’t have a father figure.
@@dollsite now I’m really curious about what being Muslim has to do with the story. Not being rude, I am genuinely very curious. 👀 Is it a part of the religion to accept affair children or fatherless children or something? If so then that is something I haven’t heard of. I always love learning more about other religions.
@@OMG_TheFrogs I'm Muslim we don't accept that craziness in story 1. Adoption was practiced by prophet Muhammad PBUH and some of his companions, but harassing a former spouse because the baby daddy ran off is not sanctioned in the religion.
@@L05-td6qm thank you! I actually looked more into the religion as well over the last month and let me just say, the Muslim religion is so beautiful. It is a shame that twisted groups are taking it and using it to promote violence and hate. Learning the true history of the last 40 years in the Middle East/ Muslim countries has been truly heart rending. Lots of tears
I thought it sounded like they were on the same page when they got married, but the ex changed her mind later, or at least pretended to not want kids at first.
The sister may not like the new fiance or might like the ex because she's equally toxic and they can be the toxic sisters (by marriage). It's always "fun" to have a friend to bond with to mess with another person like op. Edit people can hide their motives with religious delulu
Story 2: when i got married we took blood test,because thats what was a standard,this was to know if there could be a problem with genetics,if they did come up you would know and they would know if they were related.
Those were only to see if you had Syphilis as that was what the old standard blood test was for. Many Jewish couples take blood tests related to a genetic disorder, maybe Tay Sacs, but I'm not sure. Genetic testing isn't SOP and has to be specifically requested and funded by the applicants.
I don't really have any experience with marriage, but it's still weird to me how you get all the way past marriage before either of them completely makes up their mind on having children.
Sometimes you think you make up your mind but situations and hormones change. I knew I never wanted children since I was about 11 years old, but for a few years around 28 I caught baby fever. I didn't have a partner, but looked into other options before ultimately deciding against it. Now I'm still childfree at 38 with a bunch of nibblings that I dote on whenever possible, but if I had a partner that had also wanted children, I would have had a few. Thankfully my nibblings cooled the baby fever and I get to continue being fun Auntie instead of mama.
OP and his ex should have talked about children before they got married, but he's not responsible for her subsequent choices, or her son. She's a single mother who knows she chose poorly and is trying to latch on to OP for stability.
OP is not responsible for his ex's child. If the brother-in-law no pieces are so concerned he should take care of him, why don't they go and help take care of the kid?
The blood tests that states wanted was just to see if either person had syphillis It used to be a huge problem in the US so they started testing every one before marriage so it wasn't a genetic test
NTA. A dad that has to be convinced,bullied, or cajoled is going to be a resentful presence in that kids life. If someone says they don't want to be a dad ,believe them.
I think that maybe you aren't making it clear enough that the kid is not yours. You don't share dna, but ex is realizing that you are sitting on a pot of money for university costs
The 2nd story is wild, but believable, even if the odds are astronomical for something like that to occur. And I can't say whether I would continue the relationship or not, but I can't really condemn them for doing so. Whats done is done. They didn't grow up together, and they only know each other as they were before they found this out. The kids appear to have no "defects" because of this relationship, and they can stop having kids if they hadn't already decided to do so, to reduce that risk in the future. As for story 1...OP kinda gave away the religious group just by mentioning how recognizable it is. And if it is what I'm thinking it is...lets just say I'm surprised it didn't escalate further.
1st instance of incest isnt a major risk of birth defects as long as the couple is young and healthy. If they tried to have kids when getting past their 30s then complications would become a bigger concern. Now if there are multiple instances of incest in their family line the chance of children inheriting defects goes up a lot. Its an interesting topic if you wanted to look into historical royal bloodlines and how the inbreeding caused the downfall of kingdoms.
Story 1, op was/is very smart for divorcing his ex, He is very correct you can't compromise on children, Seriously if one of them clearly don't want children leave the relationship and move on, there are enough adults who was once children who had, one of their parents resent them that affect them now as adults, and hear them talk feeling that resentment from someone who is suppose to love them unconditionally is sad, Seriously op did the right thing and besides the only people responsible for that child, is his ex and the bio father of the child who's dodging his responsibilities, and honestly op should have just flat out made a post stating "i didn't make ex having another relationship and then lay down with another man to create her son with said other man, the other man she was in a relationship willingly with, she is a grown woman that made her own decisions on her own, that she is responsible for not me, i Don't want to hear any excuses and don't even bother trying to use religion we already sapeated years ago and afterwards she got into relationship and layed down with another man and had he's child so it's beyond too late to bring and she did in fact moved on from me before now, so no I'm not responsible for anything and don't bother lying saying i am when there's clear evidence I'm not and honestly after this post I'm cutting of people who bother to entertain her nonsense.", Because that way not only would op make sure everyone got the message without repeating himself, but make it so ex can't throw a woe was me party/ lie on social media, if op made it clear she was in fact in a relationship with someone else before bothering op and even if she did lie with that post to back up his claim, and a dna test people outside the situation with common sense would lose sympathy for her fast.
The ex tried to get him back mostly for the money he had. She wasn't looking for a father figure for the child. I wonder how many actually figured that out
2nd story ~ This is the strangest thing I've heard of. I hope they stay together & work it out with both families after they found out they're both brother & sister.
Kids are NEVER something you can compromise on. You BOTH want them or you separate. End of story. Otherwise, resentment will build on one or both parties. One wanting and not getting it annoyed while the other gets what they want, but they, too, are bitter as the other won't stop guilting them about it. Forcing another's hand put kids, mainly, but also the spouse whose hand was forced in dangerous/volatile situations. Idk what is with sisters taking their brother's crazy exes side, but that shows a level of toxicity and disdain of that sibling they kept hidden till then.
Story 2: See, that is why I would support a law mandating dna testing before marriage. But I am very happy that they took the wisest response to this situation and found their happily ever after.😊
Having kids is not something you should compromise on, ever. You shouldn't try to convince someone who doesn't want to have kids to have kids. They could end up hating their life, kids, family, spouse, etc.
When women see you as a push over they will never see you as anything else. The ex thought she could break him down and get control of him. Plus society hates men who arent burdened by responsibility just as much as they hate seeing women with that very responsibility. Im a life long bachelor and the rude side eyes and insults i get reom older women is just funny. They hate seeing a guy who has a solid head on their shoulders and living life with little care
The more I listen to these stories, the more I see how nonsensical people are. How could OP be at fault for not wanting kids and how is it his fault the kid does not have a father? I actually commend him for his mature and selfless acts. Cant they find another man for the child? Ask BILL and see how fast they shot that down.
3:27 Dude if he had kids then he would’ve resented them their whole lives because he never wanted them and if they didn’t have kids she would resent him because she couldn’t raise a child: I applaud OP for divorce because it was never gonna work out period point blank
Story 1: Yes and no. Wrong on divorcing in the first place but that’s because by the you usually marry, you would have known each other’s stance on family BEFORE getting married. How you hadn’t even thought of bringing up such a possibility and determining if you were both on the page before marriage is rather shocking. Now I’m not saying all marriages would need to have children but that’s usually a topic couples bring up ahead of time and it may be they don’t decide to quickly but wait a few years or several but both should be at least thinking about whether they’d consider it all before trying the knot. No for not wanting to raise someone else’s child or break up your current relationship to be with her again and more so because you are essentially a rebound option now.
OH the sister is completely delusional and divorced from reality, that explains how *bizarre* her thought process is. No way a sane person believes it’s OP responsibility to take care of someone else’s child just bc the dad is gone. Even if they didn’t believe in divorce that still bizarre
For some reason, the first story reminds of a different story where OP's sister and mother (a different OP) took sides with an ex of OP for OP not paying child support for a kid that is not his. Long story short it ended with the OP taking legal action against the ex and sister, which left the sister alone as the ex saw the writing on the wall and jump shipped on the idea and the discovery of OP's mom affair. This story is similar in the sense that OP is attempted to force into parenthood by his ex and those who support his ex. OP is not wrong since OP and his ex wife had different ideas for children. OP does not want children, while his ex wants children. I have a sneaking suspicion that the ex wants children to brag about them rather than actually wants them and parent them, but that's just my suspicion since she has been giving OP hints of having children from her friends. There are three words to stop and possibly scare anyone from continuing defamation and harassment. Cease and desist. OP and his fiancé should go for a cease and desist against his ex and sister. Since both of them are the ones that actively defaming OP's fiancé and OP.
Should have turned down ex's invitation to catch up. In her crazy mind you are still her husband. Now she is trying to kid trap you with someone else's kid. Should have blocked crazy totally after divorce.
this is insane, he doesnt want to have kids and his sisters says just be a father to a child that isnt his and even his family says be a father to the kid you are not related too, i get they feel bad for the ex and kid but it is still INSANE
NTA at all, you divorced your ex cos she wanted kids and you didn't so why the hell does your sister now think that she has the right to force another man's kid on you? Your sister and the people who are agreeing with her clearly need to see a shrink cos there are definitely a few screws lose in their heads. It's not your fault at all that the kids dad walked away and he doesn't take responsibility for his son, I understand it's hard, my daughter's dad isn't in her life at all and even after being contacted refused to accept her so I do understand it's hard but I would never expect one of my ex's (not even my ex husband) to take responsibility of her. Go back to no contact with your ex and also anyone else who's backing her up
Why do we have to listen or read the same sentences twice ? We are not morons and understand the first time. How to make a video last 30 min instead of 20 . Disgusting.
Honestly, if people want kids while still being in a relationship, they should've discussed it before thinking about marriage, just in my opinion but one thing, it's pretty disgusting is how OP's family is practically on his sister's side. Some kids don't really need a father figure in their life.
I kinda can relate to the 2nd story or better said I can believe that it is real, as my now ex gf and me are cousins, even throw we only have the same grand-grand-father. I only found out and had to break up after my grandma saw her and told me that she is my cousin.
Wait, how was he an a hole for divorcing her over her demanding kids snd him equally determined to mot have any ??...its a huge decision affecting both their lives at least he was honest and he made it known how he felt...i myself wasnt given a choice when the mother of mine stpped taking B.C pills snd didn't tell me so i could make a suitable change in actions then was mad i didnt even pretend to be happy about it...we split up and me being a responsible guy got back together to raise my daughter...but then she did it again and i resented and hated her for it...i continued to be a responsible parent for my kids..the youngest 22 M..lives with me to this day ...but i could never forgive their mother for not giving me the choice
I hate how everyone is against OP because it’s not his fault that OP’s ex married the wrong man after the divorce, I would say the ex should stop living in some fantasy that’s not gonna happen. OP’s first mistake was not blocking the ex and OP’s ex should have gone after the bio father for child support.
OPs Ex wife IS deluded and selfish I pity OP, Fiance, Ex wife's child, and the baby daddy who absolutely was baby TRAPPED.
@@toriladybird511agreed. Ex created too many victims in her wake and will feel guilty for it.
feminists believe that women should be able to force any man to father her kids
because everyone is baby rabid brainwashed. a mix of stockholme syndrome and crab in the bucket and dog in manger. parenthood is sh**y. there is plenty of information out there that it is not the fairy tale crapola the media and others use as propaganda. the NO wins. anyone who tries and bully someone into having unwanted kids are the enemy
@@LunaP1sadly this type of person won't. She'll only care and be sorry about what directly affects her. She doesn't even care about how her current actions will affect her children.
"it's your fault that the child I had with some other guy doesn't have a father figure in their life!" ...WHAT???
I feel so bad for the few friends that I blew off what they told me about exs, because I thought no one could possibly actually say shit like that. then my fiance and I got pregnant, and he dropped the mask that had been hiding the narcissism and I started to get the kinds of comments that I had once blown off as an overdramatic friend lying and blowing things out of proportion. and there doesn't even seem to be mental gymnastics involved, they seriously think they're that right on everything, at all times. literally cannot fathom that their bullshit isn't correct
So it's okay for the bio dad to decide he doesn't want children, but it's not okay for OP to make the same decision and be responsible about that decision? WTH
The biodad disappeared, so they can't harass him.
He was the easier mark
generally with people like this it’s all dollar signs. I’d presume that bio dad probably made considerably less money.
It's not ok to be bio
Your sisters husband should step up...since they so invested in this! Ex is crazy!
Pretty disgusting that his family take his ex's side. He didn't want kids and she did. So they weren't compatible and now they want him to break up with his current fiancée? Block them and go NC.
NTA, not his kids, she just wants a free dad
No, she wants what she has Always wanted. Her and OP to be a family. The whole picture show. OP as hubby and Dad,her as wife and Mom, the house with the dog and both of them raising "their child".
@lindah3803 and to that kind of person "family" means free labor, simply put she wants someone to exploit.
Not his kids, not his shit to deal with, her wants are not OPs obligations.
@@kinosaga21 True, it's not his obligation at all. I still think she wants her "picture show". Yes, that gives her the opportunity to use him as she wants.
i don’t know why people think the transplant story is fake.
imagine my surprise when i found out that my ex-husband is my 2nd cousin. he’s white and i’m black.
his great grandmother was my grandfather’s sister. she was a white passing black woman. my paternal grandfather was born in 1899.
i found this out in the early 2000’s. i left him due to him being crazy and abusive (now i know why, i swear it’s genetic) and confirmed it with ancestry dna tests with our son recently
Simple. There are folks on Reddit whose sole purpose is to "prove" a story to be fake . Some believe that because an OP "left out something" in the original post,he/she is hiding something. So their story is fake. With a story like this, there's a whole different line up of assumptions/questions. The whole: This story has to be fake. There's no way you didn't feel a familial connection to your spouse.
If you look so much like her Dad, you would've gotten tested. Just to make sure.
There's no way you wouldn't have told your "wife" before the surgery.
People on Reddit forget/don't take into account that the OP has posted their story when their life has just been blown up. Some situations just happened. Others took place very recently. These are people looking for advice,not English/Spelling lessons, be called a lier or insulted and degraded by Reddit. Depending on the situation and the OP just how angry, deceived, desperate or heartbroken they are. Unfortunately,an OP has to view the idiots of Reddit to get to the people who truly want to help the OP.
It's a lot more common than people think.
Hell if people think that the second story was fake they should look into the fertility industry and sibling pods its all a disaster and horrifying.
I know my childs father is my 2nd cousin. When we did dna markers alot of them match. Our moms are from the same town in mexico and my grandmothers side of men, where cartel and promusicious. Long story short my daughter was from his sa. But i stayed quiet .
Whatever no such thing and white passing blacks
"So I have two other dating options" - I had to laugh at that!
Even the Pope would encourage this guy to divorce his crazy ex.
“It’s obvious ex and her kid would always use the money in a ‘godly way.’”
Seriously, why is it _always_ some religious nut?
Every person who is getting married or even seriously dating should have a DNA Test. Not only because of adoption but also sperm and egg donations and also family secrets. I know two people who had to tell their kids that they couldn't date certain people cause they were their half siblings after they had already started dating them. They were told the truth after they had brought them home to meet the parents.
Won't happen because of risk-reward. Like, even a full 1st cousin is usually not a big issue if it happens for one generation, and everyone further than 2nd cousin is completely irrelevant. Therefore, the only real risks are literally unknown half siblings.
Two people at my middle school found out they were cousins when they started dating. They stayed together until my junior or senior year.
1st op has a family in one of those crazy churches.
2nd OP is wild for that "other dating options" joke
"My six year old wife." Yo, what?? 😅
Maybe he's a Muslim.
I mean... it could be a way to describe her behavior.
Sweet home Alabama.
you heard him
@@marie34K r/whoosh.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it.
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
this is helpful, I will look her up. I hope this works for me too, I really miss her.
How tf is this OP’s fault? He didn’t want kids and she picked the wrong guy. Sister should have minded her business and leave him alone
Bro, I feel so bad for the original poster. Imagine living in a world where you’re the only sane person and everyone around you is crazy trying to claim it’s your fault a random child doesn’t have a father figure.
OP should have just given her the number foor the local BIG Brother chapter.
FR and over religion too. i'm muslim but this would've driven me crazy
@@dollsite now I’m really curious about what being Muslim has to do with the story. Not being rude, I am genuinely very curious. 👀
Is it a part of the religion to accept affair children or fatherless children or something? If so then that is something I haven’t heard of. I always love learning more about other religions.
@@OMG_TheFrogs I'm Muslim we don't accept that craziness in story 1. Adoption was practiced by prophet Muhammad PBUH and some of his companions, but harassing a former spouse because the baby daddy ran off is not sanctioned in the religion.
@@L05-td6qm thank you! I actually looked more into the religion as well over the last month and let me just say, the Muslim religion is so beautiful. It is a shame that twisted groups are taking it and using it to promote violence and hate. Learning the true history of the last 40 years in the Middle East/ Muslim countries has been truly heart rending. Lots of tears
Whole situation would've gone a lot better if they had discussed having kids BEFORE they got married rather than after
Agree with you on that one.
I thought it sounded like they were on the same page when they got married, but the ex changed her mind later, or at least pretended to not want kids at first.
@@stevenbart2375 It is hard to tell, the ex did probably want kids before marriage but didn't really bring it up
who commented "did she ever get stuck in a washing machine?" ☠️☠️☠️
I mean atleast she got stuck under the bed. That's a W
@@experiencedotaku171 true 😭😭
I love the joke in story 2
What kinda lalaland do the ex and sister in story 1 belive this is? Im actually flabbergasted at these mental gymnastics
The sister may not like the new fiance or might like the ex because she's equally toxic and they can be the toxic sisters (by marriage). It's always "fun" to have a friend to bond with to mess with another person like op. Edit people can hide their motives with religious delulu
Story 2: when i got married we took blood test,because thats what was a standard,this was to know if there could be a problem with genetics,if they did come up you would know and they would know if they were related.
Those were only to see if you had Syphilis as that was what the old standard blood test was for. Many Jewish couples take blood tests related to a genetic disorder, maybe Tay Sacs, but I'm not sure. Genetic testing isn't SOP and has to be specifically requested and funded by the applicants.
I don't really have any experience with marriage, but it's still weird to me how you get all the way past marriage before either of them completely makes up their mind on having children.
It's entirely possible that she /didn't/ want kids when they got married, but feelings and wants change.
This is also why people shouldn't get married so young
Sometimes you think you make up your mind but situations and hormones change. I knew I never wanted children since I was about 11 years old, but for a few years around 28 I caught baby fever. I didn't have a partner, but looked into other options before ultimately deciding against it. Now I'm still childfree at 38 with a bunch of nibblings that I dote on whenever possible, but if I had a partner that had also wanted children, I would have had a few. Thankfully my nibblings cooled the baby fever and I get to continue being fun Auntie instead of mama.
OP and his ex should have talked about children before they got married, but he's not responsible for her subsequent choices, or her son. She's a single mother who knows she chose poorly and is trying to latch on to OP for stability.
Story 1. You are right. No more contact with the past. Enjoy your lives.
I am so confused. Why are so many people wanting this dude to be a dad to his ex wife's son that isn't biologically hers?! W.T.F
Grandkids! (Sparkle animation!)
Ok, that second story was wild.
OP is not responsible for his ex's child. If the brother-in-law no pieces are so concerned he should take care of him, why don't they go and help take care of the kid?
Story2 Holy Crap !!! Finding out your wife is your half-sister is wild AF !!!
The delulu is strong in these people
Story 2. So I have possible dating options down the road. OP has a great sense of humor.
Nta if he marry her and she had the child and he accepted it and became the father figure then he has a level of responsibility she got the kid AFTER
The blood tests that states wanted was just to see if either person had syphillis It used to be a huge problem in the US so they started testing every one before marriage so it wasn't a genetic test
NTA. A dad that has to be convinced,bullied, or cajoled is going to be a resentful presence in that kids life. If someone says they don't want to be a dad ,believe them.
The second story is just the plot of TCOAAL chapter 1
I think that maybe you aren't making it clear enough that the kid is not yours. You don't share dna, but ex is realizing that you are sitting on a pot of money for university costs
"I possibly have two other Half-Sisters,so I have dating options down the road if needed" that made me laugh harder than I should've God damn.
The 2nd story is wild, but believable, even if the odds are astronomical for something like that to occur.
And I can't say whether I would continue the relationship or not, but I can't really condemn them for doing so. Whats done is done. They didn't grow up together, and they only know each other as they were before they found this out. The kids appear to have no "defects" because of this relationship, and they can stop having kids if they hadn't already decided to do so, to reduce that risk in the future.
As for story 1...OP kinda gave away the religious group just by mentioning how recognizable it is. And if it is what I'm thinking it is...lets just say I'm surprised it didn't escalate further.
1st instance of incest isnt a major risk of birth defects as long as the couple is young and healthy. If they tried to have kids when getting past their 30s then complications would become a bigger concern. Now if there are multiple instances of incest in their family line the chance of children inheriting defects goes up a lot. Its an interesting topic if you wanted to look into historical royal bloodlines and how the inbreeding caused the downfall of kingdoms.
Story 1, op was/is very smart for divorcing his ex,
He is very correct you can't compromise on children,
Seriously if one of them clearly don't want children leave the relationship and move on,
there are enough adults who was once children who had, one of their parents resent them that affect them now as adults, and hear them talk feeling that resentment from someone who is suppose to love them unconditionally is sad,
Seriously op did the right thing and besides the only people responsible for that child, is his ex and the bio father of the child who's dodging his responsibilities,
and honestly op should have just flat out made a post stating "i didn't make ex having another relationship and then lay down with another man to create her son with said other man, the other man she was in a relationship willingly with, she is a grown woman that made her own decisions on her own, that she is responsible for not me, i Don't want to hear any excuses and don't even bother trying to use religion we already sapeated years ago and afterwards she got into relationship and layed down with another man and had he's child so it's beyond too late to bring and she did in fact moved on from me before now, so no I'm not responsible for anything and don't bother lying saying i am when there's clear evidence I'm not and honestly after this post I'm cutting of people who bother to entertain her nonsense.",
Because that way not only would op make sure everyone got the message without repeating himself, but make it so ex can't throw a woe was me party/ lie on social media, if op made it clear she was in fact in a relationship with someone else before bothering op and even if she did lie with that post to back up his claim, and a dna test people outside the situation with common sense would lose sympathy for her fast.
Unbelievable that they’d stoop so low and try to ruin your life like this 😡
The ex tried to get him back mostly for the money he had. She wasn't looking for a father figure for the child. I wonder how many actually figured that out
S1, get a lawyer to sue for harassment. Also go after the ex
"My 6 year old wife" fucking GOT me for a second lol
Some of these stories just baffles me with their logic. How is this man responsible for another mans child from his ex.
There are lot of crazy people out there with crazy unhinged logic and rationalization to justify their crazy control issues.
2nd story : home sweet Alabama💀
Story 1: OP's sister is a loon. Wtf why is she siding with the ex?
Abusers tend to stick together
she's clearly a feminist
it's what they believe
2nd story ~ This is the strangest thing I've heard of. I hope they stay together & work it out with both families after they found out they're both brother & sister.
Kids are NEVER something you can compromise on. You BOTH want them or you separate. End of story. Otherwise, resentment will build on one or both parties.
One wanting and not getting it annoyed while the other gets what they want, but they, too, are bitter as the other won't stop guilting them about it.
Forcing another's hand put kids, mainly, but also the spouse whose hand was forced in dangerous/volatile situations.
Idk what is with sisters taking their brother's crazy exes side, but that shows a level of toxicity and disdain of that sibling they kept hidden till then.
Story 2: See, that is why I would support a law mandating dna testing before marriage. But I am very happy that they took the wisest response to this situation and found their happily ever after.😊
Dating options 😂😂😂😂
Gotta keep a good sense of humor in this crazy world
How the fuck could it possibly be OP's fault that the kid doesn't have his pops around?!
Wow that writing flub made it sound like his sister wife was 6yrs old🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Story 2: Op has good sense of humor (i have dating options down the road if needed)
Well at least you can donate the kidney. Everything else, you may need a therapist
Having kids is not something you should compromise on, ever. You shouldn't try to convince someone who doesn't want to have kids to have kids. They could end up hating their life, kids, family, spouse, etc.
Dating options took me out 😂😂😂
OP is under no legal obligation to being involved in anyway in a child’s life when that child is not your kid.
Wasn't it the West Borough church that used to put out all those lists of things that were satanic? I remember yoga was on that list
One thing that's really blowing my mind right now what the hell did Opie ever see in his ex-wife he hit the crazy button and she really went crazy
Still connection with his ex. Wtf how that make sense. Ppl are just dumb
Okay he had an organ removed, she didn't, it takes longer to heal and its more pain full , the person giving alway takes longer to recover
It's always easy to solve when it's somebody else's problem
NTA if you don’t want kids and you ex should respect your wishes and boundaries
When women see you as a push over they will never see you as anything else. The ex thought she could break him down and get control of him.
Plus society hates men who arent burdened by responsibility just as much as they hate seeing women with that very responsibility.
Im a life long bachelor and the rude side eyes and insults i get reom older women is just funny. They hate seeing a guy who has a solid head on their shoulders and living life with little care
Im just so amazed with the crativity it takes for a narcissist to shift the blame at somebody. its laughably pathetic
"Yes I can play the banjo" own it I guess
What is wrong with people ? He has no reason to take on that lil b kid
Literally the only place you were even kinda in the wrong is not having that coversation before marrige
2nd story is wild.
The more I listen to these stories, the more I see how nonsensical people are. How could OP be at fault for not wanting kids and how is it his fault the kid does not have a father? I actually commend him for his mature and selfless acts. Cant they find another man for the child? Ask BILL and see how fast they shot that down.
They should care for the kid since they care so much
Last story was so gross. It not their fault but still gross
I have two other dating options made me laugh so hard.
How hard is it to understand no means no?
Apparently for these people very hard.
He’s not against being around kids at all he’s against being responsible and caring for them all the time
3:27 Dude if he had kids then he would’ve resented them their whole lives because he never wanted them and if they didn’t have kids she would resent him because she couldn’t raise a child: I applaud OP for divorce because it was never gonna work out period point blank
I'd sympathize with him if he wasn't so stupid as to get back in touch with an ex and think it was a great idea to get "closure" after 16 years.
Story 1: Yes and no. Wrong on divorcing in the first place but that’s because by the you usually marry, you would have known each other’s stance on family BEFORE getting married. How you hadn’t even thought of bringing up such a possibility and determining if you were both on the page before marriage is rather shocking. Now I’m not saying all marriages would need to have children but that’s usually a topic couples bring up ahead of time and it may be they don’t decide to quickly but wait a few years or several but both should be at least thinking about whether they’d consider it all before trying the knot.
No for not wanting to raise someone else’s child or break up your current relationship to be with her again and more so because you are essentially a rebound option now.
Story 1 the law needs to be involved.
Story 2 what in the Flowers in the Attic did I just read!
Are we just going to ignore the fact that in story 2 the OP is one grandchild away from being Uncle Grandpa?
Technically Gruncle Grandpa
This can't be real. "You're an asshole for not playing step dad to a kid you have zero connection to" How does that logic make sense?
The thumbnail is one helluva Rollercoaster
Not your kid not your responsibility
I’d suggest your BIL step up to be father figure as he is so eager to force OP to step up.
OH the sister is completely delusional and divorced from reality, that explains how *bizarre* her thought process is. No way a sane person believes it’s OP responsibility to take care of someone else’s child just bc the dad is gone. Even if they didn’t believe in divorce that still bizarre
Story 2: OP must be from Alabama
For some reason, the first story reminds of a different story where OP's sister and mother (a different OP) took sides with an ex of OP for OP not paying child support for a kid that is not his. Long story short it ended with the OP taking legal action against the ex and sister, which left the sister alone as the ex saw the writing on the wall and jump shipped on the idea and the discovery of OP's mom affair.
This story is similar in the sense that OP is attempted to force into parenthood by his ex and those who support his ex. OP is not wrong since OP and his ex wife had different ideas for children. OP does not want children, while his ex wants children. I have a sneaking suspicion that the ex wants children to brag about them rather than actually wants them and parent them, but that's just my suspicion since she has been giving OP hints of having children from her friends.
There are three words to stop and possibly scare anyone from continuing defamation and harassment. Cease and desist. OP and his fiancé should go for a cease and desist against his ex and sister. Since both of them are the ones that actively defaming OP's fiancé and OP.
Should have turned down ex's invitation to catch up. In her crazy mind you are still her husband. Now she is trying to kid trap you with someone else's kid. Should have blocked crazy totally after divorce.
I told myself "okey one story and then sleep" i heard my wife is my sister and here we go again
12:18 this is really the most important question who and what are these people so I can know to stay away from the sort
this is insane, he doesnt want to have kids and his sisters says just be a father to a child that isnt his
and even his family says be a father to the kid you are not related too,
i get they feel bad for the ex and kid but it is still INSANE
First story....Not Wrong.
NTA at all, you divorced your ex cos she wanted kids and you didn't so why the hell does your sister now think that she has the right to force another man's kid on you? Your sister and the people who are agreeing with her clearly need to see a shrink cos there are definitely a few screws lose in their heads. It's not your fault at all that the kids dad walked away and he doesn't take responsibility for his son, I understand it's hard, my daughter's dad isn't in her life at all and even after being contacted refused to accept her so I do understand it's hard but I would never expect one of my ex's (not even my ex husband) to take responsibility of her. Go back to no contact with your ex and also anyone else who's backing her up
Moving to California?
Well at least there's a reason to question his mental sanity.
Why do we have to listen or read the same sentences twice ? We are not morons and understand the first time. How to make a video last 30 min instead of 20 . Disgusting.
“WITCHHHHHHHHHH” - ops family
Honestly, if people want kids while still being in a relationship, they should've discussed it before thinking about marriage, just in my opinion but one thing, it's pretty disgusting is how OP's family is practically on his sister's side. Some kids don't really need a father figure in their life.
I kinda can relate to the 2nd story or better said I can believe that it is real, as my now ex gf and me are cousins, even throw we only have the same grand-grand-father.
I only found out and had to break up after my grandma saw her and told me that she is my cousin.
Story 1:
on OP’s EX-Wife & OP’s F!sibling mindset =
*"Thomas Has Never Seen Such BS BEFORE !!!"*
🙄😮💨😒🤬
Wait, how was he an a hole for divorcing her over her demanding kids snd him equally determined to mot have any ??...its a huge decision affecting both their lives at least he was honest and he made it known how he felt...i myself wasnt given a choice when the mother of mine stpped taking B.C pills snd didn't tell me so i could make a suitable change in actions then was mad i didnt even pretend to be happy about it...we split up and me being a responsible guy got back together to raise my daughter...but then she did it again and i resented and hated her for it...i continued to be a responsible parent for my kids..the youngest 22 M..lives with me to this day ...but i could never forgive their mother for not giving me the choice
1st OP’s sister, BIL and family are delulu