Alt History: Black British History We’re Not Taught in Schools - BBC Stories
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Writer and historian David Olusoga presents a series of short films exploring critical moments in Black British history from 1919 that have been forgotten or rarely discussed.
#DavidOlusoga #BlackHistory #BritishHistory
We are BBC Stories, a group of journalists making films, long and short, with the younger audience (18-24) in mind. The idea is to tackle issues which concern and impact this group of people. So think about anything from race and identity to mental health, money and much more.
This man campaigned to stop foreign criminals being deported. He is a disgrace.
The boundaries between "Utter disgrace" and "Hero" are strangely fused as one nowadays so long as they aren't white.
they weren't criminals.
@@marajesty311 They were all convicted criminals .
@@marajesty311 Donna's dad was on the plane.
@The Dúnedain Simon is a brilliant guy to go to if you want to debunk the living shit out of leftist wallies!
So much horseshit, it's hard to know where to start...
*_How the BBC are allowed to get away with broadcasting these complete lies is an utter scandal ..._*
What?
@@olavosilvajunior577 very succinctly put Jane. This historian is a down right spin doctor. He probably knows the facts but gets his rewards by playing to a narrative.
@@olavosilvajunior577 you heard. This is such a bunch of crap.
White people seem a little shook as always!!
@@samuelhouston7989 what a stupid comment
The sailor you show shot 3 policeman others were cut with cut throte razers Yorkshire post of the time look it
And he drowned in the Dockside and wasn't lynched as this lier is making out! 👍
No evidence AB Wotten shot anyone. In fact, 11 black men from the street he lived on later appeared in court charged with the attempted murder of police officers........
@@stevenwheeler5324 Look up "lynched". The word now covers everything from hanging, the traditional meaning, to being dragged in chains behind a car. English, like society, moves on. It is applied to any mob-handed extra-judicial killing.
@@Tourist1967 there has been 2 reported lynchings in uk and one was true 👍
@@Tourist1967 was there evidence to convict the 11 black sailor's? Or did the prosecution decide they had nothing to answer for because they had already found the shooter 🤔 👍he and his mates were fighting with scandinavian merchant sailor's over work 🤔 he tried to escape because he was innocent one out of the 12 black sailor's because he drowned after shooting 3 policemen?
I love the idea of a guy stood in front of a crew of producers, directors, and camera men, being broadcast to millions with the watermark of the BBC, telling people that what he is talking about... isn't being talked about.
It's just like when you see every mega corporation don rainbow flags every June.
There's actually no paradox there, because he could mean that he is the first to talk about it. I'm not saying he's right, only that it isn't paradoxical or selfcontradictory.
Why aren’t we learning about Chinese British history too?
or eskimo
Good point. Or Irish immigrants (who played a much more integral role in Britain over the past centuries). But these points don’t matter to BLM and therefore do not matter to the BBC.
I tried to reply to your comment but UA-cam censored it. My response was entirely factual and complimentary toward Chinese people in Britain but UA-cam loves censorship and hates the truth.
I will try to rephrase my comment in a way that will enable it to get past the algorithms.
Chinese people in Britain have done really well economically, educationally and socially, just the same as they have in the USA and pretty much everywhere else they have moved to. A similar case can be made for Indian emigres.
Because they, as a minority group and often one that arrived in their new homes with very little, have succeeded where others have failed, they debunk the narrative that these countries are institutionally racist and unwelcoming.
This is an uncomfortable truth for those who wish to push the currently popular but completely false narrative.
What about native black British who were here before white invasion
@@Dhuxul9before they evolved into people with light skin?
The world does not revolve around the disembarking of some Jamaicans from a ship called the Windrush. It's hot air being offered constantly as a pivotal event.
I will paraphrase WEB Dubois:
"Your country? How came it yours? Before the Windrush landed, they were there." Sorry dude, but it looks like the actual story here is
1) The British Empire becomes the biggest trader of blacks from West Africa by the end of the 18th century
2) The whole affair is a sordid one, involving a lot of violence, a lot of greed, and riches through ill gotten gains whose legacy is alive and well, like an unacknowledged illegitimate son
3) America is often the punching bag for slavery in the UK, but the funny thing is nobody ever teaches the kids the truth that Uncle Sam learned at his mama's knee, up to and including using beatings, floggings, rape, and mutilation for punishment -in fact, every slave code that affected the Caribbean also affected the 13. The 13 had royal governors, just like Jamaica and St. Kitts did. They answered directly to the king.
4) No reparations have ever been paid to the heirs of these slaves nor when the more curious ones find out the truth are they taken seriously.
5) For centuries as a nation the people on the island have been encouraged to think British Culture=white culture, and the policy of a White England, a White Scotland, and a White Wales has been de facto in place for a long time, enforced by the Atlantic Ocean. Windrush would not be a controversy without it. It would have no significance either.
6) Great Britain does eventually give up slavery, so credit where credit is due. That does not mean it stops supporting it, if indirectly. The biggest buyer of Southern cotton in 1861 is....Old Blighty. On top of that, the Empire starts to lose interest in its North American holdings in the 1830s, and starts to concentrate more on India. That is a history in and of itself, but the point is that with the Caribbean, the Empire cuts and runs. It even has the gall to force reparations on blacks to be paid to THE OVERLORDS who enslaved them, which shall not be paid off in full until the year 2015. On top of all THIS, it was not until massive slave revolts and the outright revolution in Haiti does the idea of emancipation catch fire. NONE of this is discussed in any A-level or GCSE class.
And now, the government that once encouraged blacks to come help and save the mother country has an attitude of wham bam thank you ma'am. Decades after the fact. When London is long since rebuilt. Nice, really, of Boris to be so considerate /s. Nice, really, when for so long GB has acted nothing like a good mother at all.
@@marykatherinegoode2773, incorrect, the largest trader of blacks from West Africa was Portugal. Of course, the far bigger trade was from East Africa to the Arabian peninsula.
Why should reparations be sought from those who never enslaved anyone by those who were never enslaved?
You know where the word ‘slave’ comes from, don’t you?
It comes from ‘slav’, from the Slavic people who were enslaved for hundreds of years by the Ottomans and Berbers.
Everyone with any real knowledge of this subject is absolutely sick of the nonsense that people with an overblown sense of victimhood and entitlement keep spouting.
There are plenty of countries run by black people, they have great climates and abundant natural resources.
Anyone who wishes to live in those societies would be better making positive moves to emigrate than sitting in Western Europe and whingeing.
@@marykatherinegoode2773 Why don't you campaign against the governments of Nigeria, Benin etc for reparations.. it was their ancestors who sold black people into slavery in the first instance. I imagine you won't because I imagine you are biased. Have you seen the statue of one of Nigeria's great heros in central Lagos - she is a black woman who gained her enormous fortune by selling black slaves to the Atlantic traders. Her name is Efunroye Tinubu You should know her story before you blow off more bile.
@@marykatherinegoode2773 you really need to stop with the victimhood. The ONLY reason why there are blacks in the US and Caribbean and as a result the UK? We didn't castrate slaves like the Arabs did. The Arabs were the biggest slave takers, Portugal did a good job of it aswell. You could talk about slavery until the cows come home but if you are so against slavery, why not start a campaign against modern slavery in the Middle East. Qatar has just been built on the backs of slaves? Why not get vocal about that? Because like all you soft, liberal history rewriters, you're only concerned about one thing. Giving a false account of what happened. Just like this nonsense being spouted about Afro Romans of which there was probably about 3.
@@marykatherinegoode2773 if you're to be believed then Britain was the first country to enslave people, when in fact we put an end to it's legality.
Many other countries did it before, during and after us . Stop blaming Britain for your underachieving.
I’m over eighty, I remember the war. We lived in the London area. I can say with certainty that I saw only one black British person during those times. And I only noticed him because he was a friend of a friend, known to my close relatives.
There were black people, but they were all in American army uniforms.
It’s seems pretty certain that there were a few black people in Britain, but the numbers were tiny.
I suggest that the presenter of that tosh take a look a very old films of Britain’s streets of a hundred years ago. There are lots on UA-cam.
Count the number of black people you see.
Are you implying he should factcheck his nonsense? Oh no, he wont. The truth has no interest for this charlatan.
Hi old man - another old man here. I remember seeing my first black man, this wasn't in my home town, there were non there, this was on a trip to Birmingham (somewhere around 1960) and I was upstairs on a bus with my mom when I saw my first one. I was very excited and exclaimed 'ooh look mom, a black man'! Her embarrassment only increased as I pointed out 'another one' then 'another one' until I finally declared "I'm going to count them"! As an adult I can understand her embarrassment but my view was through the innocence of a child's eye. There was no malice in my mind. You are absolutely right in what you say and productions like the one above are really getting my back up. They are twisting reality and turning black against white and vise versa.
That's very practical and scientific. Good idea.
It's the same in America, it was over 90% White European up until the 60s when the marxist democrats changed the immigration laws to bring more non-whites into the United States! The same people are doing it to all White countries!
I grew up in E1. I also only remember 1. But I do remember many Chinese. The social history of this country should only be taught by those with a commitment to in depth truth and reality. The BBC makes us ashamed. The teaching by Germans of false history in books prior to WW2 I learned about at the knee of my Jewish Grandfather in the early 1950s. Tunnel vision was preached against in our house. Perhaps some prior peer review by the progeny of white mixed race refugees over the ages is required. Or the BBC should go back to their rule book about “balanced programmes”.
Oddly nothing is mentioned about 10 times the slaves shipped to Brazil.
*_Lies, all lies. Take a look at 'History debunked's video rebutting this utter nonsense ..._*
Indeed, - but yet they (the establishment/BBC) hold most of the power of propaganda, - the truth is next to impossible to get out to the disinterested masses.
@@raymills188
*_Absolutely. Pure "Propaganda" ..._*
Simon Webb tells the real story 👍
I enjoy History Debunked but to be fair, there's nothing on this video which is unreasonable. It's commendable people look for a deeper connection with Europe. Personally I would not begrudge anyone that. Some do take it too far no doubt.
@@TM-fu2we
*_Seriously, I have no words for that statement ..._*
I won't comment, except to register my amazement that comments are not "turned off".
Bangle woman was European , John Black portugese lived here fore a short time .Black man not lynched but after he shot and hit 3 police men was chased by a crowd of mainly sweedish
seamen, fell into the water in the docks.check the newspaper report at the time.
You're been rumbled Mr Olusoga.
I recommend everyone view: Simon Webb - History Debunked. He relates, with intelligence, integrity and honesty, the truth behind the Empire Windrush myth and many other such matters; flagrantly and dangerously distorted by Mr Olusoga. He also exposes , with consumate ease, the veracity, errors and naive lack of basic research, which litters his writings and items.
One wonders, what Mr Olusoga's objectives are.
Webb is an electrician not historian.
@@TBarton7849 - why isn’t he a historian? He seems to read and research a lot of history.
@@jimthompson9370 because he does not want to be accountable. He wants his channel to be taken lightly and he does not care if it's factual or not.
Fake history twists the facts, or omits certain key facts altogether - thus promotes false narratives.
@@thewizardssleeve119 hahaha historian? Einstein was German but not every German is Einstein. The fact he manipulates books you havent even read does not make him historian.
@@thewizardssleeve119 Let's argue points then.
Tell me about Webb's British concentration camp oh wise man?
Tik, tik tok hurry up chop ,chop
The Windrush generation were never invited by the British government, their arrival was a complete shock to the British government. The truth is the owners of the Windrush wanted paying passengers for the return voyage to Britain. The number of black people in Britain prior to 1948 was vanishingly small.
These "African Romans" were from North Africa, Berberbers etc. They were not black Africans. The Roman held no territory in Sub-Saharan Africa.
Naturally the BBC is very happy to present these falsehoods as facts, because they fit the BBC political agenda.
Funny that a lot of research in both instances you refer to refute your assertions. Along with several of the comments on here, total rubbish.
A shock to the government really ?
@@johngriffin7255 How so?
Wrote a book out went to alter it and it's not posted. But history is not what is being taught, it's been white washed.
The British government never invited anyone, it was an advertisement in a paper on the other end
Seacole wasn't a nurse and sold luxury goods to the officer class
The black Romans in Britain...weren't black
I just did a search of the photo showing 'black british' soldiers returning from the first world war, - in fact, if the search result is accurate, the photo is dated 1915, and shows the West Indies regiment, most of whom never set foot in britain, but were drafted to join the war effort.
The West Indies were British. As were the people who lived there. There was no "draft" - conscription - in the West Indies. All who served were volunteers. And which regiment are you talking about? The British West Indies Regiment or the West India Regiment? The BWIR did "set foot in England". It was trained in the south of England. All 11 battallions.
@@Tourist1967 By that standard I'm Vietnamese because I once did a cookery course there.
@@rashomonsan What a stupid thing to say. You clearly fail to understand basic concepts like the slave trade and colonialism.
Check out History Debunked for a through debunking of Olusoga's grift.
How important was it that the British brought about the end of slavery after 100’s of years fighting for it. Thousands of British men died to bring it about. Facts do matter so why not use them.
@@wyihupoip8105 The fight against slavery started in Britain in 1067 after a decree from William the Conqueror, Britain has been the forerunner against slavery from that time. Haitian and French history is not taught in British history lessons, reason being Haitian and French history is not the British history the video is talking about.
The world does not revolve around the landing of a few Jamaicans from a boat called Windrush.
It's what I always thought, fair enough Black Caribbean people celebrating it, but you don't hear other immigrant groups screaming out for recognition.
@@seamusdoherty Good point my friend and unless we are careful.this whole Black History mentality is going to.get way out of hand exactly because of what you have well.noticed
Fiction pure and simple, please debate Simon Webb
Today woke leftists don't debate they censor and smear and cancel and they have the backing of the establishment
Debate anybody ever. This is the propaganda way, never get caught in a real discussion.
well Britain's always had a few swarthy races throughout history . why obsess about black folk , why not chinese , indians or eskimos !
@romi mok read up a bit. The Chinese were enslaved by the Japanese. The Indians and Eskimos are still struggling for survival as races and were never as numerous as black Africans. Strange that Olusoga makes no mention that the first people to enslave Africans were other Africans. Or that African slavers were raiding the coastal villages of Britain and Ireland centuries before any white man stepped on African soil.
Do you think African slaves were dehumanised more, or were more harshly treated, than British peasants and serfs of centuries past? Britain outlawed the slave trade early in the 19th century, but no such relief was afforded to our own ancestors who had to feed themselves and their families. Landowners in Britain didn't bestow the luxury of free food on their workers. Read a bit about British social structures and conditions then tell me how the blacks were singled out for special treatment.
This bloke pushes a toxic narrative
He’s neither black or white, he’s a mix and he is angry cos he’s not good looking either.😂
@@dorothysurry1368 He's angry cause its hip to be a victim. But he has to shout louder now days as black people are displaced from the top of the hierarchy of the oppressed. He would do better if he also identified as trans gender.
If anybody ever asks you what the term 'race grifter' means, just say 'David Olusoga'.
A proven liar continues on his fantasy path
There was more Nobel Laureates for science from Scotland last week than there has
been from the the whole of Africa since it's inception. This is why they need a black
history month.
you can fit their history onto a grain of rice , in large font. its irrelevant to human progress
Kids don't learn about this sort of thing because it's bollocks
How is it bollocks?
Exactly - the 'professor' is as fake as Milli Vanilli !
@@marajesty311 How is it true?
@@wilfridwibblesworth2613 read a history textbook
@@marajesty311 Thank you for your advice, Which ones do you recommend?
Mr Olusoga, can you make a documentary about the estimated 17 million victims of the slave trade, that is of course the African slave trade! Yes the victims were all white, (white gold) in this can you explain why on the south and west coast of Britain no one lived within 10 miles of the coast, and the slave markets established in Dublin by African slavers or the slavers base on the island of Lundy. That might be an interesting project for you.
He won't.
Truth hurts people like him
How can BBC pass such nonsense as historical fact... And people believe it XD
Well, ignorant people do, who desperately want to take credit for others achievements. If there was a black janitor sweeping up after Marie Curie, then obviously her research was a " black achievement". Right? 😉
Because the BBC are very good at twisting facts.
Which bit was nonsense exactly?
@@fogellmclovin6278 just the bit about Mary Seacoal....oh, and the bit about Windrush, and the wee bit about the lynching, and the Marie Curie thing. Wait 'til he churns out the tripe about the eight year old black genius who graduated from Cambridge University. Black history month is a P.R. job to convince black people that they are in no way inferior to whites or Asians, and like most P.R, it's full of lies, spin and exaggeration.
It is true actually but racists won’t believe it
I find it amazing that a man with such a limited knowledge of history is actually a history professor at a university
Gotta tick those boxes
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The mendacious old clown Webb claims to be a historian. And he's a janitor. Or was.
But armchair "historian" Webb is more credible. Understood.
@@TBarton7849 remain calm Sandra
Bring back David Starkey. He is a historian.
Not another racist.
@@mauricealexander3834 because of his comment that slavery is not comparable to genocide?
@@jamiewarne9066 David Starkey Said ‘’ you are not culturally Black Africans you would die in seconds if you were dumped back in Black Africa because you wouldn’t no how to cope’’. Die in seconds, how many White people are living in Africa did they die in seconds the moment they got there, the Man is a JOKE.
when I was in cape town I was told not to walk from the hotel to the restaurants along the harbour as I would be mugged for no other reason than to cause me harm. Though while saying that, I wouldn't want to walk the streets of any British city now, but that's as they are out of my comfort zone.
@@mauricealexander3834 I somehow doubt that that is a genuine quotation from anything written or spoken by David Starkey. Can you provide a reference for your claim? I’m willing to bet that you cannot do so!
Typical fantasy from Olusoga and the BBC
Fantasy far from it. Blacks have been in Britain since the Romans were in Britain. History in many countries was diverse and Britain is no different.
@@audreyrose1952 The "black" roman troops, often quoted as being on Hadrians wall were in fact Arabs probably from Morocco. The Roman empire did not extend south of the Sahara. If you have any doubts check with Historian Simon Webb.
@patrickkyle4601 I will check out the historian you mentioned. Arabs were probably there too as well as their African brothers.
I'm sorry, were you ALIVE then?? You don't know anything for sure..@@patrickkyle4601
Trivia is interesting, it doesn't change the world or even contribute much to anything.
I had previously heard of this self appointed historian but had never bothered to listen to him before but I was surprised he limited himself to just the United Kingdom for his views leaving out the fact that slavery had been practiced across Africa for hundreds of years before every the Portuguese got involved. One has just got to look for evidence of black slaves in India & Sri Lanka who arrived there well before the Dutch & the English. Slavery has been practiced since time in memorial, the Romans en-slaved the British along with everybody else but we don’t seek to be included in Italian history. I don’t have a problem with Black history I welcome it , we learn from history but it must be honest, you can not make up stories just because of some vague links it must been fully researched.
I agree with you but for Black History. It is so biased, often wrong or exaggerated and is unproportionate in value.. indeed, in my opinion, is creating greater racial division and discontent.
@@straighttalking2090 the reason for that is race grifters who intentionally lie. If we ran those pricks out and told the honest truth "Black" history could be a diverse and engaging lesson for the world. Stories of the African continent and subsequent migrations, modern black stories. It could be great, but not until it is honest, stops defending murderers (both historic and current) and stops trying to rewrite history with nonsense (See the various "467 things that were actually invented by black people. Nah, we swear they were!" Or the "Beethoven was totally black!" Farce)
@@straighttalking2090 the reason for that is race grifters who intentionally lie. If we ran those pricks out and told the honest truth "Black" history could be a diverse and engaging lesson for the world. Stories of the African continent and subsequent migrations, modern black stories. It could be great, but not until it is honest, stops defending murderers (both historic and current) and stops trying to rewrite history with nonsense (See the various "467 things that were actually invented by black people. Nah, we swear they were!" Or the "Beethoven was totally black!" Farce)
I think you make a great point. So much so that when Remembrance Sunday comes round, I think we should just stop the revisionist history that the only heroes were British soldiers in the world wars. Didn’t American, Russian, French etc soldiers die as well? Why aren’t we remembering them here in Britain? Why aren’t their names inscribed on plaques and statues? War happens everywhere so should we only celebrate British soldiers?
Do you see how stupid your point is now? Slavery happened elsewhere so it shouldn’t be talked about here in Britain? Despite the fact that Britain’s global standing today is propped up from the wealth accumulated by slavery profits and the infrastructure it helped to create.
It’s an uncomfortable truth that needs to be acknowledged head on. Britain has a sordid history and only now are people starting to truly comprehend how much has been hidden.
This guy makes a very nice living out of rewriting history.
The Muslims, and the British did the same, they burnt the books, the conquerors and powerful rewrite history. Stole the ideas, raped the women, looted, and you can see Karma has come to repay England.
What did he say that was wrong?
@@re-dna7099 read some of his books. Filled with untruths Many of his claims are refuted by scientists , yet still accepted as fact. It makes no sense.
Are you a history teacher?
@@badfairy9554 no. I just question everything and I research. I don’t accept the agenda based narrative.
One word. RWANDA. teach that at school. Very important period of black history.
It is important, but not just to teach Black history, but the legacy of colonialism and the failure of 'international' institutions.
@@michboa437 yeah. Especially Rwanda.
@@jimmy2minutes And Kosovo
@@jimmy2minutes Is that what I said? Is Rwanda the entirety of Black history? What exactly do you know about Rwanda besides the genocide? Main actors, key actors? RfP? Milles collines radio?
@@michboa437 oh yes. I know. I can educate myself. Being Colonized generally works out well. Once everyone calms down. And the fighting stops. Look at Britain, did great out of being colonised.
Unbelievable that he can get away with this crap.
How does the bbc get away with promoting such an obvious racist?
Well they all knew what jimmy Savile was up to so they have no standards
Olusoga is a name with Yoruban origin (West Africa). There weren't many West Africans in Britain. North Africans aren't considered "black".
We do not get told anything about mr Average white British history. So why should we get taught about average black history?
Because it’s history.. why should only white history be told over anyone else’s
@@1971Blubear I think that was bluebird 8s point. I don't want to know about black nobodies any more, or less, than white, brown or any other colour of nobodies. What I can say though is that this video and its maker are full of lies and exaggeration. Olusoga is a fraud who plays the race card to his advantage.
@@robertcameron3709 why is there a so called race card.. why do places have to be forced to have have diversified businesses and schools. Anytime a person of color say something about his story it’s lies.. but let a white person say it.. it’s added to his story books! Fact!
@@1971Blubear fact, asserting that doesn't make it true. Do some research and you will see he is outright lying. There is a sustained campaign to rewrite history to make some folks feel better about themselves. Olusoga is a part of that, as is our left leaning media.
@@robertcameron3709 History should be rewritten to tell the truth and all the truth and t just some white mans racist one sided view.. remember he who hold the pen has the power .. to make everything about him that good and everyone else evil and wrong!! That would be your ancestors.
Why does David Olusoga describe himself as 'black' when his mother was white? Surely, he is biracial. He would possibly reply -because he was treated as a 'black' in our society. Recently a teacher, Miss Codrington-Rogers stated that Black History should be taught. She claimed, 'We built the pyramids, developed modern numbers, built universities.' 'Our ancestors were philosophers, scientists, military strategists, authors, writers, activists and so much more.' When the aforementioned lady refers to 'black', is she not conflating 'black' with 'African'? Arabs do not describe themselves as black so her 'black' history is in danger of appropriating the accomplishments of others. David Olusoga is a very knowledgeable historian but when he talks about 'blacks' in the Roman Empire is he referring to the Africans of the North African Mediterranean area?. I know this article is about 'Black History' but I do wish ALL British people could be taught to pronounce the letter 't'. It drives me mad when I hear the term 'Bri'ish etc. I noticed some of the pupils' (I hate/loathe/abhor the term 'kids') pronunciation was lacking in 't's. Teach them how to speak! English is a beautiful language gradually being eroded by 'diversi'y' and woolly liberal teachers.
I never knew this guy was black . I thought he was Dutch , a bit like milli vanilli.
Those other well-known con artists!
Milli vanilli would make better presenters😅
You must admit David is really balanced, he has a chip on both shoulders....
The National Front messed up when they firebombed his house as a kid...they sparked a flame
give it a rest you
im white british but i just call myself british not what colour i am.
Think the guy (& BBC) needs to make a clear distinction between North Africans & those south of the Sahara when making these assertions.
(Think I”m right in saying the so-called ‘Afro Romans’ were North only.)
His first sentence contains an error when he calls the ship the "Windrush". It's name was actually the "Empire Windrush". The next error that I noticed was where he contradicted himself by saying at 0:20 that the story of black people in Britain goes all the way *back to* Roman times and then saying at 1:35 that there have always been black British people (which would imply that the story of black people in Britain goes all the way back to *before* Roman times).
Extraordinary claims should be backed with extraordinary evidence, and if he is claiming that history is being taught wrongly in British schools, lying by omission in effect, he should show a lot more attention to detail, surely? I mean, to shorten "Empire Windrush" to "Windrush" is to omit part of the story, the exact same thing he is accusing the British education system of doing.
So, at this point, having watched just a minute and a half of the video, I am feeling far more skeptical of this British university professor than I was at the beginning of the video.
Hitchens , was right
@@johnnicol64 Which Hitchens was right? And about what?
@@matthewbartsh9167 C Hitchens, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
It's a old quotation of his.
@@johnnicol64 Also this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard
Imagine going on and on about the White history of Japan because a few Dutch and Portuguese guys were there 400 years ago.
I thought that the BBC's presenters were supposed to be impartial........... No this bloke is an activist all the way through and bends the truth meet his own agenda.
Why am I paying for this rubbish!
He causes racial to tensions he’s not doing his race any favour. I’m in the building trade work with her African Caribbean had great fun with him. Like him a lot
Get cancelling pal 👍
I stopped paying the tv licence back around 2008. I started keeping the threatening letters and cards posted through the door around 2013 and the pile now numbers 116. They tell me I am under investigation, that I will be prosecuted they give me the number of their 'investigation' etc but it's all a big bluff. They can go **** themselves. I live on the third floor of a block of flats and I know what I shall tell them if they ever do turn up at my door. (some form of 'get off the property!' and _nothing_ else). I don't have a tv, not that they know that, so why should I pay them anything. Honestly there isn't that much I miss without the BBC. I watch Attenborough and wildlife programs at my girlfriends place, but Doctor Who is now so woke it makes me angry and I don't trust their news anymore. If your tv cannot be seen from the outside (or giveaway reflections off the walls) how will they know anything; you do not have to let them into your property. Those old 'radio vans' never worked and are now extinct. Lot's of advice and video clips on the internet.
This is all you need to know,this is better than living in a mud hut.Regards Arthur.
Is there any chance you could add subtitles? I'd love to use this as a lesson resource but it's not accessible for Deaf people
Frances Haynes it’s going to be sited again next week. Maybe you can record it? www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b082x0h6/broadcasts/upcoming
The box with the square and transparent dots has turns on subtitles
turn subtitles on
The things some people are suggesting are auto-generated captions rather than subtitles. Auto-generated captions often include mistakes, especially around uncommon words such as names.
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To be black and be british ARE two different things david , do your homework mate. The people that invaded on the windrush weren't invited , they came on a private sailing on cheap tickets offered by a private shipping company to fill the ship up on a crossing . It was no different to the illegal immigrants crossing the channel now , it was just a bigger boat . They came of thier own accord . Even if you go back to tudor britain and find ONE black man it doesn't make black people british . There are an estimated 43 million slaves in africa TODAY , what are the black people who constantly talk about slavery doing about THIER brothers and sisters in africa , persecuted by thier own colour ? I'll tell you...............NOTHING AT ALL .
Well said 💯 agree
I hope that you are _not_ saying 'you can't be black and British'.
@@straighttalking2090 you can't be black and english , english is an ethicity , the description of english is , northern European, white . A black person can be a english citizen but not an english person . Anything else you're hoping for but not getting ?
@@bluepelican3183 I didn't ask you about "english" (that should be capitalised btw - call yourself English?). You said "british" (and that should be capitalised too). I asked you about being black and British, so why the sudden swing to English. Looks like a typical defer and distract technique used by those trying to avoid a straight answer. So what I am not "getting" (as you ask) is a straight answer. So I am asking again.. _can someone be British and black_ ?
No , capital 'N'
This is appalling lies.
Ur really reaching just cause u found one person does not mean black British people are indigenous of Western Europe
That black man who was 'lynched' in 1919 was actually a man who was fleeing an angry mob. Why were they angry? The black man had just shot three men.
Ooops. Not really a lynching at all. In fact the black guy fell in a river and drowned.
You're going to have to do better than that Mr. Olusoga
There is no evidence AB Wotten shot anyone. He was certainly not involved in the disturbances. The fact that 11 black men from Upper Pitt St, where AB Wotten lived, were later charged with the attempted murder of the police officers, which suggests even the cops weren't sure who did it. He was chased into the river and stoned. He did not "fall in". I suggest you take the time and effort to dig out the autopsy report. The body showed signs of severe damage. And the meaning of "lynching" has expanded a little over the years. It's applied to any mob-handed, extra-judicial killing.
What nonsense, I was 17 years old when I first met a very pleasant black man.
Got this link from Simon Webbs History Debunked. He does a far better job than you and provides the links. You MUST know the background and you are disingenuous in your stance.
Selective history.
People should look up HistoryDebunked were it shows dishonesty and misinformations coming from Olusoga. This Afro Romans were mostly North Africans and looks similar to Algerians and Tunisians and this applied also to Ivory Bangle lady who might have been North African. She probarly look more like actress Sofia Boutella. So what her bracelet was made of African or rather North African ivory as there were North African elephants still around before they died out during late Roman times.
Any census before 1948 will contradict what Olusoga Is saying. At the end of the day. I can’t blame him if you’re gonna tell a lie Tell a big one head’s off to David Olusoga I guess.
This guys barely brown and hes talking about being black
Why does "Black History Month" focus solely on black people in "white" cultures? Why does Black History Month not focus on true "black" heroes like Shaka Zulu, who took a small African tribe and turned it into a conquering military force to rival any European empire? The Zulus rampaged through a large part of southern Africa, destroying everything in their path, anihilating rival tribes.
The Zulus were quite an amazing force in that period, why is this not being celebrated?
My ancestors are from the Zulu tribe so i really appreciate this comment 🥰
This is true but unfortunately it doesnt play very well with the idea that Africa was nothing but a peaceful continent of fruit and happy smiling folk. Making Africans look just as war like and "bad" as Europeans doesnt sit well with those of certain agendas.
The Zulus themselves wound up a conquered and oppressed people living in Bantustans. Bad example.
@@marykatherinegoode2773 Why is it a bad example? - most empires were eventually defeated and many great leaders came to an untimely end. The example I gave was of Shaka Zulu, not the Zulus in general. Do pay attention before your try to be a smart arse!
The best he can do is quote a couple of doubtful examples ( he presumably thinks that my Chinese phone, if found on my corpse, will indicate my ancestry!) which prove nothing except people from odd places were sometimes brought here for various purposes. Without having any demonstrable impact on our civilisation.
A little bit sad Dave. Do hope your Nigerian cousins are including plenty of white history in their education systems.
me who was told to watch this bc of school: 👁👄👁
Same
how old are you guys?
They tell you to watch programmes full of lies. Look at a youtube channel called "History Debunked" for a better perspective about the work of dishonest race-grifter Olusoga.
@Jeremiah Ayeni You've swallowed the lies Jeremiah. No point debating with the likes of you.
@Jeremiah Ayeni You do your research. He's not telling the truth, he's distorting it to cause division.
As an African American, I find this very interesting. But I'm curious, how can Black British people call this history "their past" when they do not descend from the black slaves that the man in the video is referring to? If I am not mistaken, most Black Brits willing moved to the UK from Africa and the Caribbean. Whereas in the US we literately built our country and we actually descend from slaves here. So for us, learning where we come from is vital. But why would an African immigrant living in the UK need to know about British slavery? If you want to know who you are, just ask your African grandparents. You have the luxury of doing that--unlike my people.
The Cass:
A good number of black Brits are descended from slaves who were brought to British colonies like the Carribean. Read up some more on black British history to find that out. Just because England didn't have slavery literally in its backyard, dosen't mean things were any better for them
than it was for us. Just because black British folks don't have the exact same history as us black Americans concerning slavery, that dosen't make their history with it any less legit, and it's ridiculous to say that it isn't. Obviously you didn't watch this video, which tells about the history of slavery in Britain.
The Cass
Your comment implies that you do not fully understand the Slave Trade and our shared history - Afro-American , Afro -Caribbean, Afro-Brazilian, Afro-Columbian etc. I wish I knew who my Great, Great grandparents were and from where they originated, but the Sugar, Cotton and Cocoa Plantation records only classify them by shipment and description (male, female, child, approx age) rarely by origin. Most of the records are in the British Archives or in the private collections of the Slave owners decendants.
We share a common ancestry. Research some more or try to watch the full 4 series by Dr. David Olugosa - it's a good start!
Also, of equal importance, is the history of Haiti and the slave revolution organised with military precision against all odds! Napoleon was savage and brutal and Haiti paid a hefty price for its liberation from French slavery.
@@martinacrafton1252 I completely understand the shared history that we have. But the difference is, my DIRECT ancestors fought and died in every American war, including the civil war. Juneteenth is a part of African American history that resonates with us in a way that you could never understand, no matter how many books you read or episodes of Roots you watch on TV. We've had black neighborhoods burned to the ground and we've been terrorized by hate groups like the KKK on camera. So let's be clear, sharing some ancestry from the same continent (that is very vague, by the way) is not the same thing as being a direct descendent of a slave who actually built a country like America or Haiti. That's all I am saying. The fact of the matter is, most Black Brits are immigrants who willingly moved to England from Africa. Nobody made you move there. So why complain about the unfairness of your environment? You are fully aware of your history as most of you still have your African names. And you can also go back to Africa to see your family members whenever you want a real history lesson. Those of you who come from the Caribbean come from countries that are predominately black like Jamaica. Those countries have black faces on their money. You have an indenity that my people here have never had. So I respectfully disagree with your stance. And I think if you're going to compare a Afro-Columbian to a Creole person, perhaps you should do a little more research of your own. They're culture and DNA is quite different. The Creole people in America are very proud of their French heritage. And Afro-Latinos are mixed with Spanish DNA.
@Bob African Americans define the black experience. We built America, we fought and died in every American war and like it or not...we are the most influential black community that has ever existed. To say that there is no such thing as an African American, is like saying there's no such thing as a Filipino, Dominican, Brazilian or a Mexican. Colonization created new ethnic groups and we are one of them.
I agree, certain things should be taught at school, and aren't. Along of course with how ordinary white peasants were treated. Being virtually paid as slaves, hung for stealing food, children forced to work, no political power or right to speak out.......Not much is taught about that either! But it's history......when my home city of Bristol is told to say sorry for it's history, 'who' do they really mean exactly? The streets,walls, pathways? Or is it really aimed at the white British population? If so, let us hear those calls in plain language for what they are, or keep your peace........
The people committing all the atrocities against the 'peasant class' looked just like them!
@@lunalea1250 So?
Abolsute rubbish. My kids have been taught the history of this country and the blot that was slavery. Its pure misinformation to deny education ignores our history.
What makes you think the white people at that time were English?
Millions fled towards Britain and changed their names, time after time they come to a stop on the ancesters sites. That really old granddad who was Russian and came here for some reason, they, can't find his father. His memory is forgotten and today they think their family has always lived in England. Research Russia Poland in the 1700-1900's mass emigration. We now even have a German royal family whose great +++ father is Muhammad and Vlad the impailor.
Damn, remember the fascinating story of that one black brit who worked in a tapestry?
Absolutely incredible, truly hidden history.
There is no such thing as 'Black British'
neutral kontrol yes. Yes you did
neutral kontrol unless of course you immigrated these past 200 years
@@Tarteh your right with much of what you say but the irish did the most physical building of America.
@@uditfonseka : The Chinese contributed quite a lot too!
So this is why UA-cam started hiding the dislike count?
Not taught in schools......maybe because it is FAKE🤣.
We need to learn about Madam Efunroye Tinubu, there is a statue of her in Lagos.
Big slaver wasn't she? Don't think her statue will be pulled down any time soon.
@@johnmarsh2078 You will also find a slave museum on the coast of Nigeria, there is a well there that the slaves drank from to make them forget, the water was tainted by a plant. In the museum they talk about Africans selling Africans.
@@beehinde In Britain it is taught that only the bad white-man caught or owned slaves. In fact white Britons were enslaved by the Barbary Pirates and sold in Africa long before black slaves were taken to the West Indies and America. There will be no British museums featuring the sufferings of these people. All slavery is obscene.
@@johnmarsh2078 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Vaclev Havel, we all become dissidents and live in truth. They are committing Menticide. Prior to all of that, we have 800 years of the Hindu Kush. Notice one element they are evading.
Why are kids not taught about the otterman empire who savaged Europe ?
Ah. Yes. Those rampaging Otters. That "Ring of Bright Water"? Pure revisionism.
Pffffftt. Keep telling yourself that, David. One day it may come true for you.
Ayuba Suleiman Diallo is interesting too. Henrietta Lack had cancer cells that were used for research, she gets a statue and is described as mother of modern medicine? It's getting a bit insulting to Pocs that these liberals tell lies like this.
Her name, you twit, was Henrietta Lacks. The cancer cells were taken without her permission and they lead her to believe she was getting cured. She DIED. Her story is seen as a great miscarriage of justice and her whole story has long come to light.
Where are the stories of blacks within UK society? Why must British history only ever equal WHITE history? Surely at least one did well, but strangely, being treated like a guest in the only home you've ever known seems a lot more customary. Funny that.
@@marykatherinegoode2773 The trouble with your approach Mary is that if you big-up inconsequential people (and I would include myself and probably you under that label) then it only serves to make their inconsequentiality obvious and demeaning. Token 'great people'. Like the 'special' people in schools who must be given golden stars so they don't feel bad or lose confidence - but then everyone knows that the ratings are rigged. I want to help the special people but I can't overlook why I think of them as 'special'. Black people are better than this and they do not deserve to be treated as such. Lacks has been given a 'golden star' and the rigging is obvious - she (the person) was and is inconsequential, only her genes were of significance and she personally did nothing to further the cause of cancer research herself. I wish to beg forgiveness if this offends anyone, I have no idea if Henrietta Lacks was a good kind wonderful woman or not, I hope she was; but that is not the point of this statement.
In 1950 it was estimated the population of Britain was around 50 million and the population of non-white people was around 20 thousand. You whittle that down into percentages and BAME people would have made 0.0004%.
So, a minuscule fraction of one percent.
On the slave trade what he forgets to mention, the African Moorish kingdoms going back to the 8th century regularly sailed north to Europe and the coasts of Britain and captured over a million people into slavery over a period of 800 years at least.
So that was black people capturing white people into slavery hundreds of years before the British Empire existed.
That’s what’s not being told the history books at British schools.
Do not listen to this white hating race baiter.
Fantasy is such fun....
Does anyone know what the series was called by. David, where by white people in the uk,discovered they're had black ancestry. It aired a few years ago now???
This is historical revisionism
There is absolutly no truth to all those claims
What ur evidence that brought u to this conclusion ?
@@ojx-ifo328 not time to do all, but: the black trumpeter is featured in 10 black tudors, which i read and enjoyed. However. Ten!!! Afro.Romans, yes, why not? They were from all over the empire? I bet the N Africans loved it on Hadrian's Wall and were bursting to come here. Cheddar Man is a woke hoax (check New Scientist for retractions), in general I don't get the drive to 'prove' that GB 'was' 'black (eg the scene in the Churchill film where he stumbles on a mixed race couple on the tube in 1945 and no one raises an eyebrow)'. Mary Seacole books for kids in schools depict her as a nurse. She wasn't. etc etc... I love history, but, come on... talking of THE slave trade as if there was only ever one (while real slavery still exists). We don't hear about the Indian doctors who qualified in England & Scotland the 1890s as this spoils the 'racist britain' narrative while many testimonies of immigrants praise their new home for the opposite reason. I have NOTHING against black/Jewish/Indian whatever.... but this does feel like shoe-horning a narrative in.
@@charlytaylor1748 You're a complete fantasist. Cheddar Man is most definitely no hoax, neither are the other men and women found in Gough's Cave and other parts of Cheddar Gorge. Anbyone using 'woke' is a prat anyway.
@@johngriffin7255 The Determination of his Skin color is a Hoax though.
This guy couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. If there aren't any real stories just make some up. Patronising rubbish !!!!
Do you think he believes yourself I’d love to know
Do they learn about the African-Muslim Arab slave trade that went on long before Europeans turned up and continued right up until today.
How convenient for UA-cam to hide the dislike bar. Doesn't show your 9/1 dislike-to-like ratio.
The arrival of the Empire windrush was the beginning of so much pain and decline socially and morally for our nation a fall from an ethno state to a multicultural waking nightmare Enoch Powell the unsung prophet said it most profoundly when he said “we must be made literally mad “hopefully with the rise of populism the damage can still be undone 🤔
Come on I don’t mind black people but it’s wrong to keep peddling non-truths just face up to what you are and be happy. Just a word of advice nobody but nobody respects people that tell lies.
really helped
What does not get taught in schools is British history.
Roman Solders in Britain we’re NOT black subSaharan Africans , There were Berbers- Arabs. Olusoga interchanges Africans and Blacks to suit his narrative… Sameful!
Olusoga has been shown to be wrong on so many of his productions that he cannot be relied upon for non-biased output. I would describe him as a producer of fake news and the BBC should beware of its own reputation in fronting this man.
The whole organisation needs disbanding.
Hahaha the truth hurts😂😂😂 yes we were in the Uk since Romans time
this is great i love it
Well what I learnt from this is that black history is not fully told to those who want to learn about it
You won't learn much about true history from Olusoga: m.ua-cam.com/video/TuCi5dG6vhw/v-deo.html
Read more then, no one is hiding anything from you, dont rely on any truth from Olusoga here. Unless of course you like trashing the countrys history, in which case dont read a thing and keep soaking up the rhetoric.
So many haters. The reason the BBC can broadcast this information is because it is true😂. Get over it people. There is more to know and learn. What are you haters afraid of?
They're afraid of losing their racially privileged position :/
The Roman empire was clearly multi-cultural - although the vast majority of Roman "Citizens" were of Italian origin, but it is simply untrue that a Black Sailor was lynched in 1919. Charles Wooten was part of a gang that got into a fight with Swedish Sailors over cigarettes, they puled out knives and Razors and then cut the throat of a police officer that tried to break the fight up. The gang then fled to their boarding house and when the police arrived in force to arrest them Wooten shot 3 policemen before fleeing. He was chased by a mob enraged at the shooting of the officers and then was either pushed into the docks or jumped in to try and evade the mob. Sadly he died. This information is easy to find in newspaper records and it is difficult to understand how a well known historian could make such a blunder and claim that he was lynched?
Garbled nonsense. You are confusing two separate incidents. On different days. AB Wotten was not involved in either incident. The Bermudian sailor was chased and stoned. Take the time and effort to check his autopsy report - quite a lot of trauma there, not consistent with jumping into the water.
Watching this now in 2020 and thinking why it's so short? They should make a fuller version and re-air it on BBC1
David Olusoga did! www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b082x0h6/episodes/guide
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b082x0h6/broadcasts/upcoming
@@marcusdocherty7002 Thank you for the links Marcus
He has given us the resources, use them if you really want to know.
No thanks
if kids are learning about British history in school, they should be learning about important parts the history of Britain that has shaped the country. There are different levels that pupils learn history, for example GCSE or A level. It is not possible at any level to have time to teach about every different era, or subject in history. Obviously only certain time periods, subjects can be taught. For example the 1st World War and it causes, the Reform Laws in 19th century Britain, ( including the extension of the voting franchise, and abolition of slavery). These are important parts the history of Britain, that have greatly influence the country today. Its is important for people living in the country to know these things. I was at school a long time ago, but one of the subjects we studied in history was the triangular trade across the Atlantic between which included the trading in black slaves from Africa and Europe and America. There are lots of other subjects in British history that could be mentioned, but at the end of the day the syllabus should really be about the subjects that have the greatest influence, in a historical context on Britain. There is not enough time in any history syllabus to go into details of individual lives whether they be black or any other ethnicity. Unless they had a major influence on British history.
I dont know how schools are expected to fit everything in , including sections on black history. There is only so much British history they can fit in to the curriculum, so inevitably some aspects will be left out.
Now look at britain!
And I wasn’t taught any German, Japanese or Eskimo history at school,I wonder why?
Are you in Germany or Japan? I wonder why. Also the word "Eskimo" is considered a derogatory term by some. It looks like you were not taught that either. I wonder why.
@@manuke179 Are we in Africa?
@@leonogo8676 maybe not, but your origins are from there.
manuke179 Because I am a member of the country that oversaw the largest empire in history.
@Aaa Bbb "recent discoveries"? 😏 Ok. Do you care to share which ones? Your ears are only open to what you want to hear.
considering there were european people in north africa and the middle east duing the roman empire, it makes sense that there would be black/dark skin people serving/living in parts of europe at that same time. is the number large enough to get us to believe History is much more different than what we've been taught? i don't think so.
We don't learn anything about black history in my high school
I didn't learn anything about Mauri history at my school in the UK. But at what point do we stop blaming schools for not teaching every injustice in the world (due to the lack of time) and start to research things for ourselves and stop pointing the finger?
You wont be missing much aside from lies and mistruths.
@4:06 professional victim - sees chance to include other 'marginalised' characteristics and then refers to this group 'They' .....
It’s in the title (alt history).
Like Fartherland is alt history.
How could we trust anything with the BBC brand on it ?
I hope we’re all looking this upppppo
you should make a documentary about this
The eternal victim eh?
The comment section in this is honestly disgusting. Every time our black history is just taught as its been hidden and not taught in schools, someone has to find defense to it?...
@oliver shaw loool im not even going to respondto such ignorance. U are the reason why ppl need to be taught such history
@S B go pick up a book then if think that, in fact ur right its just history.
Your a house 🏠 though time is amazing I am from the Isle of man and I don't think we had slaves on the island but I thought if anyone new it would definitely be you I know you are busy love the way you give the so called working class or worse a voice THANKS PAUL 😊