"And you know, guys! I'll be here in the public square every Monday morning. If you want me to finish my Theory of Forms and Ideas make sure to donate so that I can dedicate myself to philosophy full time!" Philosophers were just youtubers.
Hell alexander himself came to him and promise to give him anything he wants and then diogenese responded "stand a little out of my sun" Somehow diognese live up to the age of 89
King: should i conquer more land? General: dont know, sir. king: aight, imma ask my pet philosopher also King: hey philosopher! should i conquer more land? Philosopher: you never conquer land, you merely mold it to your life. King: marvelous!
This is essentially what still happens today. Science, Philosophy, Politics, Law are supported by the wealthy. Corporations instead of individuals these days. But they still finance "learning" which supports their interests. So the "learning" itself is systematically biased.
@@qy9MC I think he criticizes systematic learning, for example some form of underhanded indoctrination in schools, than an act of learning, which is the most important aspect of life
@@kapadocia-sama3449 Not all learning in school is necessarily biased. There you learn the bare minimum to survive like basic math, basic biology, basic science understanding and basic philosophy understanding. History is the only odd one out. But instead of seeing this as a bias you can also see it as a way to understand your country’s position in regards to education.
@@qy9MC But i didnt deny it, we look into structure of countrywide learning, which is often molding us into "perfect citizens" without creative approach, its obvious you will learn a lot in a school, it doesnt need a clarification. In my country (Poland) school is teaching a lot of everything, really good knowledge base, but also restricts us in our own approach, often enforcing on us dry following of rules without explaining why do they exist, most of our subjects is learning everything by heart and then forgetting because it was pointless without a context, even if you are a pristine student
You left out my favorite - Socrates of Athens himself, the Wisest of All the Greeks! He fell into the category of 'had a job on the side', since he was STRONGLY opposed to the whole 'selling knowledge' thing. Those who did that - by working as tutors, speech-writers and whatnot - he termed 'Sophists' rather than true Philosophers. 'Philosopher', after all, means 'Lover of knowledge', whereas 'Sophist' just means 'dude who knows stuff'. And if you ask Socrates, no-one who truly LOVED knowledge would dare to put a price-tag on it. His side-gig? He was a stonecutter - a bit of a growth-field in ancient Athens, as it happens. Also might explain why his frequent philosophical takedowns so rarely escalated into fist-fights - I betcha he had a mean right hook!
@@AsbestosMuffins Come now, a real philosopher would say it in a far more CLASSY fashion. Like, say, "As you know, a healthy mind springs from a healthy body. At times, however, it seems that a foolish mind can exist in an otherwise intact body. This imbalance, fortunately, is fairly easy to correct." *cracks knuckles*
Scraggly-haired Philosopher: “Hey, have you considered what the true purpose of life is?” Athenian citizen: “Here man, take my coin for some bread, just promise me that you won’t use it on wine.”
@@macaroon_nuggets8008 Unlike the cartoon villain in a kid's show, I have a real reason to do it, nobody is going to stop me, and nobody's opinion about it means anything.
My favorite is Socrates. He just started discussions on the street with total strangers and tried to let them see the error of their ways, without having a predetermined philosophy. Sometimes he would start to talk deeply about random subjects somewhere in a park in Athens. He got a great following of youths who voluntairily paid him some money or gave him food.
I once thought like you. But then I came to realize that undermining what people hold dear without giving them some alternative is not a good thing to do. No wonder he was given a strong signal to flee Athens.
@@andy99ish True, but that is the human psychology behind it. A real factor, but philosophically "an sich" (e.g. as a way of constructing/deconstructing thoughts) not important.
@@ronaldderooij1774 That philosophy is to be seen as an endeavor or a category detached from the needs of life is a modern idealistic position. That issues of the soul are detached from the "an sich" sphere is even more recent. The classic position seems to have been that the soul is an integral part of philosophizing and philosophy is a way of life. Measured by these standards Socrates did not fare well.
@@ronaldderooij1774 :) Actually I should change my previous point: One should not project his longings for a higher truth on other people. At least he should stop when he is perceived as someone who takes away useful certainties without offering an alternative. To have missed that point was Socrates' fallacy - and probably the fallacy of the radical Enlightenment more than two thousand years later. Thanks for the conversation !
I loved how no only was Diogenes' jar in many of the scenes, but in the one about inheriting wealth from a patron, the jar was again pictured, but with a very fancy entrance, complete with elaborate columns. 🤣
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‘Stand a little less between me and the sun’- Diogenes when asked by Alexander the Great if there was anything he wanted. I’m gonna go with ‘By being absolute madlads’ for 10
@@64standardtrickyness Only when he REALLY needed it, like on the verge of starving kind of needing it. He was more about just living off whatever he could find and living with the bare minimum. Digging through garbage for food, using the streets as a bathroom, living in a giant pot, ect. He even threw out a bowl he was using to drink water because he saw a poor child drinking from his cupped hands and decided the bowl was too much of a luxury. He most likely could have gotten a job or made a decent living, he was well known and respected, but those weren't in his beliefs. There's actually a quote after Diogenes told Alexander to move that OP is missing. Alexander told him "If I were not born Alexander, I would wish to have been born Diogenes." to which Diogenes replied "If I were not born Diogenes, I too would wish to have been born Diogenes."
@@McNugget_Buddy I just thought it would be weird to tell people that wanted to help there was nothing they could do for him and then later beg them for money.
Also, some philosophers (i.e., Plato's "Academy", Aristotle's "Lyceum", etc.) set up "schools" in which "students" received lectures and training, which became the seminal base for the western college (and university) system. These collegia could be very lucrative for some of the philosopher-owner. Interesting vid, Ty.
Most ancient philosophers (less well know ones) are orators, who were mostly representative of court cases and defense lawyers. A huge chunk of knowledge today on ancient worlds were provided by these orator scripts.
@@erlinacobrado7947 But sadly, Marx didn't understand economics too well. He believed wealth would decline in a capitalist system, but that has always happened under socialism.
Great video! One more thing that you briefly touched on but could say more about is that they were simply wealthy themselves and could thus afford to devote their leisure time to the discipline. Marcus Aurelius is a good example, but so is Plato, who was independently wealthy through his family and thus could afford to hang around that Socrates chap, and also book it out of town once he died.
Diogenes actually mostly didn't care about money or even earthly posessions. In fact his entire philosophy was how superfluously useless earthly posessions were, even throwing away his only item, a wooden bowl, when he saw a man drinking with his hands.
@@kayaek2558illegal? To drop your posessions voluntarily and live on the streets? Why would that be illegal? As long as you don't cause any problem, you are free to do as you want 🤷♂️
Diogenes would certainly approve of the fact that Plato - probably the most important ancient philosopher of them all, who did really interesting things to make money, like founding the Academy - isn't mentioned once.
Honestly, a lot of them were already independently wealthy, especially some of the ones that worked in the courts of kings and emperors. Seneca was an extremely wealthy landowner/money lender, Plato came from money, Thales (if we're going all the way back to the pre-Socratics) did too. It was a rather common theme, since you had to have a certain amount of free time in order to get access to this kind of education.
well your heart alone can be sold for a million bucks and your kidneys can go for like 260k so i'd say im worth way more dead with my organs sold on the black market then i'd be alive
This was one of my favorite videos... More than just one of my History Profs said that Aristotle, for his time, might have known everything there is to know for a particular time period or up to that date in which they lived!
This channel always manages to put out very interesting topics. I have always wonder myself about this little questions but I was too lazy to explore it by myself. You sir are a contribution to human knowledge :). Also I love that the clips are short and straight tot he point.
One of the best kept secrets of modern philosophers is how much money they make. Many philosophy majors become ethics consultants to big corporations or go into law. The US average salary is about $80k. Not exactly a useless profession.
Getting a philosophy degree is a good route to unemployment, on a par with English Literature. It's not even a school subject in most of the English-speaking world. Whereas combining philosophy with politics and economics has the opposite effect.
Cool video! Forgot to mention that Thales, the first philosopher, also became rich by using astronomy to become the first real estate speculator! Maybe make a video on that?
i remember one philospher noted a correlation between rainfall and grape harvests, so at the end of one dry year he bought a lot of grape presses and winemaking equipment for cheap, then sold them for a lot of money the next year
2:28 James Bizonette, The Pastry Section..." I wish I had thought of that as my online alias! Slip an & between the two and you have an exquisite name for a pre-rock music group.
@@Marinealver He got poisoned by the green copper-arsenic based pigmint on his walls, because he loved the green colour. The toxicity of arsenic seems to have been unknown back then.
Hey, nice vid, but there was also another common source of income for philosophers: being descended from a wealthy family. Plato is a prime example of this, he came from one of the most aristocratic and rich families in Athens, and basically never ran out of money. Thucydides is another example, as he was also born obscenely wealthy, and I would claim that he does qualify as a "philosopher"
👌... (for sure: more you don't give a Fuck, more they surrender, more you can see theirs "true colors" / Hypocrisy and meanness served for free / they don't ask for, they impose...)
Socrates was a mason. Aristotle was a teacher and a physician, and in fact tutor to Alexander the Great at one point. Plato was an aristocrat of wealthy family. (He tried being a playwrite early in his career, then gave it up for philosophy, where he could not help continuing to write dialogues. He was also, in his youth, a wrestler and built for it; “Plato” is a nickname from that time, meaning “broad.” His real name was Aristocles.)
Interesting. I started researching science, philosophy, religion and history when I was at university, but quickly I became more interested on the individuals and how they actually lived, when they started making more notable discoveries (at what age), how they made a living or get free time, but I found it was particularly hard to find this information. Everybody knew Newton was a genius who discovered this and that, but feel could tell exactly how he'd go about it, how his routine was like, if he had to cook, make his bed, wash dishes or do laundry.
Love ancient Greece and their ideas and principals. They gave the world: democracy, free speech, modern medicin, individual rights, constitutional form of government and many more. Lets not forget that although modern Greece has a high debt, we are also in debt to them. :) Love and respect Greece from Czechia, I'm partialy Greek myself. 🇨🇿❤🇬🇷
I don't think _Ancient_ Greece could invent _Modern_ medicine. That just doesn't make any sense. Plus, the Babylonians and the Persians invented the idea of individual rights first with the Code of Hammurabi and the Cyrus Cylinder.
Agreed but I don't think the knowledge these guys were sharing were that important though, I do agree it would be immoral to make a fellow countryman pay for schooling.
Fun fact, Roman patricians would pay people to hang out with them in public. The idea was that if you have a lot of followers then you are more important
“How did philosophers pay the bills?”
Marcus Aurelius: “I found making the bills helps.”
they are all rich, they do not need to worry about it.
This comment 👌🏻
Marcus Aurelius: "oh wait, is that my face on the coin?"
that's an interesting philosophy
what bills lol? it was all made up just recently by the nwo
"And you know, guys! I'll be here in the public square every Monday morning. If you want me to finish my Theory of Forms and Ideas make sure to donate so that I can dedicate myself to philosophy full time!"
Philosophers were just youtubers.
From Patrons to Patreon, the more things change the more they stay the same
Lmao neh
And according to my calculations, only 1% of my followers are actually donating
@@distendedmist5840 Sounds reasonable.
Diogenes was homeless on purpose though. Part of his philosophy was, that happiness doesn´t depend on material posessions.
No, but he does depend on them for living
that was just what he told himself
Hell alexander himself came to him and promise to give him anything he wants and then diogenese responded "stand a little out of my sun"
Somehow diognese live up to the age of 89
Are homeless people of America philosophers?
well yeah it was on purpose, but the point in the video was that he made money from begging not that he did it on purpose
King: should i conquer more land?
General: dont know, sir.
king: aight, imma ask my pet philosopher
also King: hey philosopher! should i conquer more land?
Philosopher: you never conquer land, you merely mold it to your life.
King: marvelous!
This is essentially what still happens today. Science, Philosophy, Politics, Law are supported by the wealthy. Corporations instead of individuals these days. But they still finance "learning" which supports their interests. So the "learning" itself is systematically biased.
@@pwnmeisterage In what way can it be biased? Supported by the wealthy sure why not, but the biased part needs to be clarified.
@@qy9MC I think he criticizes systematic learning, for example some form of underhanded indoctrination in schools, than an act of learning, which is the most important aspect of life
@@kapadocia-sama3449 Not all learning in school is necessarily biased. There you learn the bare minimum to survive like basic math, basic biology, basic science understanding and basic philosophy understanding. History is the only odd one out. But instead of seeing this as a bias you can also see it as a way to understand your country’s position in regards to education.
@@qy9MC But i didnt deny it, we look into structure of countrywide learning, which is often molding us into "perfect citizens" without creative approach, its obvious you will learn a lot in a school, it doesnt need a clarification. In my country (Poland) school is teaching a lot of everything, really good knowledge base, but also restricts us in our own approach, often enforcing on us dry following of rules without explaining why do they exist, most of our subjects is learning everything by heart and then forgetting because it was pointless without a context, even if you are a pristine student
"Selling knowledge is immoral"
Colleges: *nervous sweating*
Bahahahahaha0
A college's what?
@@slappy8941 Seriously worried about grammar? Cmon Dude, you got what he was saying like I did. Easy, MMM K?
laughs in free university education
@@NeroPiroman crys in thousands of dollars worth of debt
You left out my favorite - Socrates of Athens himself, the Wisest of All the Greeks! He fell into the category of 'had a job on the side', since he was STRONGLY opposed to the whole 'selling knowledge' thing. Those who did that - by working as tutors, speech-writers and whatnot - he termed 'Sophists' rather than true Philosophers. 'Philosopher', after all, means 'Lover of knowledge', whereas 'Sophist' just means 'dude who knows stuff'. And if you ask Socrates, no-one who truly LOVED knowledge would dare to put a price-tag on it.
His side-gig? He was a stonecutter - a bit of a growth-field in ancient Athens, as it happens. Also might explain why his frequent philosophical takedowns so rarely escalated into fist-fights - I betcha he had a mean right hook!
I love that in ancient Greece, punching your opponent in the face was a viable way to win an argument.
He also joined the military and took part in a war.
"Your position is wrong headed and stupid!"
"Yea well my arms and fists say your face is stupid." *Wham*
@@AsbestosMuffins Come now, a real philosopher would say it in a far more CLASSY fashion. Like, say, "As you know, a healthy mind springs from a healthy body. At times, however, it seems that a foolish mind can exist in an otherwise intact body. This imbalance, fortunately, is fairly easy to correct." *cracks knuckles*
@@BlakeTheDrake nice one
“Homeless and briefly lived in a jar”, just like modern philosophers
As you do...
truly a man ahead of his time
A lot of philosophers now are university professors.
👍...👌... 🤔... 😹
"They'd find a wealthy patreon" oh things really havent changed much
Scraggly-haired Philosopher: “Hey, have you considered what the true purpose of life is?”
Athenian citizen: “Here man, take my coin for some bread, just promise me that you won’t use it on wine.”
I got the 123rd like. Nice, 123.
Not a chance! Philosophers are well known teetotallers! For real!
I prefer to kick the degenerates.
@@macaroon_nuggets8008 Unlike the cartoon villain in a kid's show, I have a real reason to do it, nobody is going to stop me, and nobody's opinion about it means anything.
@@macaroon_nuggets8008 you are very wise for a nugget
The Virgin Ancient Greek patron vs. The Chad James Bisonette patron
The Virgin *Raid: Shadow Legends* Sponsorship vs. the Chad *James Bizonette* Patronage.
It's spelled Bisonette. Read the video description.
You can literally just look up his name and the results lead back to History Matters lmao
Bold of you to assume that James Bisonette didn't sponsored them
Who's James Bizzonette?
My favorite is Socrates. He just started discussions on the street with total strangers and tried to let them see the error of their ways, without having a predetermined philosophy. Sometimes he would start to talk deeply about random subjects somewhere in a park in Athens. He got a great following of youths who voluntairily paid him some money or gave him food.
I once thought like you. But then I came to realize that undermining what people hold dear without giving them some alternative is not a good thing to do. No wonder he was given a strong signal to flee Athens.
@@andy99ish True, but that is the human psychology behind it. A real factor, but philosophically "an sich" (e.g. as a way of constructing/deconstructing thoughts) not important.
@@ronaldderooij1774 That philosophy is to be seen as an endeavor or a category detached from the needs of life is a modern idealistic position. That issues of the soul are detached from the "an sich" sphere is even more recent. The classic position seems to have been that the soul is an integral part of philosophizing and philosophy is a way of life. Measured by these standards Socrates did not fare well.
@@andy99ish Well, I think we all can agree that Socrates did not fare well in the end. 🙂
@@ronaldderooij1774 :) Actually I should change my previous point: One should not project his longings for a higher truth on other people. At least he should stop when he is perceived as someone who takes away useful certainties without offering an alternative. To have missed that point was Socrates' fallacy - and probably the fallacy of the radical Enlightenment more than two thousand years later.
Thanks for the conversation !
Starting to think this “James Bissonette” guy likes this channel
Kelly Moneymaker. 🤣
Gustav Swan
phil the oink oink
Party Boyko
David Archaeologist
I loved how no only was Diogenes' jar in many of the scenes, but in the one about inheriting wealth from a patron, the jar was again pictured, but with a very fancy entrance, complete with elaborate columns. 🤣
On this episode of
“I didnt ask but now am very interested”
Usually the case but this time he answered a question I have been asking for years
This is how it starts.
Weird. I've literally wondered this for about 30 years.
Who as...
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«Γέλε, ζήτε, στέργε» (“Laugh, live, love” in Greek) on the academy’s wall. What a legend
Yeah, although «ζῆτε, γελᾶτε, στέργετε» or even «ΖΗΤΕΓΕΛΑΤΕϹΤΕΡΓΕΤΕ» would have been more authentic / less anachronistic.
Google Lens Translate : Laugh , Live, Erase
@@m.s.9744 It gave me "Laugh, ask, wipe" 😄
‘Stand a little less between me and the sun’- Diogenes when asked by Alexander the Great if there was anything he wanted. I’m gonna go with ‘By being absolute madlads’ for 10
Wait did Diogenes ever ask people to give him money? because you know this seems like a pretty good time.
legend
You might be badass, but you will never be "telling Alexander the Great to get out of my way" badass
@@64standardtrickyness Only when he REALLY needed it, like on the verge of starving kind of needing it. He was more about just living off whatever he could find and living with the bare minimum. Digging through garbage for food, using the streets as a bathroom, living in a giant pot, ect. He even threw out a bowl he was using to drink water because he saw a poor child drinking from his cupped hands and decided the bowl was too much of a luxury. He most likely could have gotten a job or made a decent living, he was well known and respected, but those weren't in his beliefs.
There's actually a quote after Diogenes told Alexander to move that OP is missing. Alexander told him "If I were not born Alexander, I would wish to have been born Diogenes." to which Diogenes replied "If I were not born Diogenes, I too would wish to have been born Diogenes."
@@McNugget_Buddy I just thought it would be weird to tell people that wanted to help there was nothing they could do for him and then later beg them for money.
Also, some philosophers (i.e., Plato's "Academy", Aristotle's "Lyceum", etc.) set up "schools" in which "students" received lectures and training, which became the seminal base for the western college (and university) system. These collegia could be very lucrative for some of the philosopher-owner. Interesting vid, Ty.
The real question is , how does James Bisonette make his money?
That's actually a good question, I'd love to know his secret for making money
hes a pimp and sell drugs
*James Bisonette:* Don't ask me about my business.
He established a Trading Post in the East Indies and Established *Bissonette's East India Company*
Isn't he a chef ?
Most ancient philosophers (less well know ones) are orators, who were mostly representative of court cases and defense lawyers. A huge chunk of knowledge today on ancient worlds were provided by these orator scripts.
Part of the mystery of James Bizonett is how each comment has a different spelling
Adds to the myth
Don’t forget Ozark Aflash
Jems Beezunate
James Bisz Anette*
ג'יימס ביזנט
Simple
“How did philosophers pay the bills?”
They asked money from James Bisonette, Phil de Oink Oink or that Spinning Three Plates person
Don’t forget Izzy?
Kelly Moneymaker. It is in the name
They were sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends
Hell yeah
This did undermine their lectures on morality somewhat, however.
Virgin Raid: Shadow Legends vs Chad James Bizonette.
Don't forget the Skillshare too
Raid Shadow Legends didn't exist back then
"many where kept by the wealthy"
Oh don't mind him, he's just my philosopher
Sorta like that guy and his pet future-seeing dwarf.
How thing's stay the same.
" Bissonette the Great" would be an interesting topic
Everyone: they were obviously financed by James Bisonette
Me, an intellectual: Rob Waterhouse
My galaxy brain: Kelly Moneymaker would make money for them
_Ah, but what even is money?_
*Philosophers:* THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS!
"But what if we had money that wasn't money?"
"Oh you mean like communism?"
"No, I'm talking about Bitcoin!"
Markus Aurelius: "A fairly easy question, when your head is on the money"
Marcus Aurelius: ,,Only thing I know about it is that I just have a lot of it"
Adam Smith, Ricardo, and Marx considered Aristotle and Xenophon to be the first economists. They're not that dumb in finances, you know.
@@erlinacobrado7947 But sadly, Marx didn't understand economics too well. He believed wealth would decline in a capitalist system, but that has always happened under socialism.
Great video! One more thing that you briefly touched on but could say more about is that they were simply wealthy themselves and could thus afford to devote their leisure time to the discipline. Marcus Aurelius is a good example, but so is Plato, who was independently wealthy through his family and thus could afford to hang around that Socrates chap, and also book it out of town once he died.
Diogenes actually mostly didn't care about money or even earthly posessions. In fact his entire philosophy was how superfluously useless earthly posessions were, even throwing away his only item, a wooden bowl, when he saw a man drinking with his hands.
Wouldn't that be illegal in this day and age?
I ask because it kinda appeals to me for some twisted reason
@@kayaek2558illegal? To drop your posessions voluntarily and live on the streets? Why would that be illegal? As long as you don't cause any problem, you are free to do as you want 🤷♂️
1:12 I saw that "Live, Laugh, Love" poster in the background
James Bisonette was Archimedes' first Eureka moment after all
Why are you in every comment section
Bisonette. The name is listed in the description, yet people still spell it wrong.
Hello. I think I am subscribed to your comments.
All along, I thought that it was because of a vacuum cleaner! 😂😛
Diogenes would certainly approve of the fact that Plato - probably the most important ancient philosopher of them all, who did really interesting things to make money, like founding the Academy - isn't mentioned once.
0:20 The ancient Greek "Live Love Laugh" tho
I had supposed thats what it said but my use of google translate was fruitless. Can you confirm what I'm thinking?
"I pissed on the man who called me a dog. Why was he so surprised?"
- Diogenes
Simple: James Bizzanet gave them all of that cash...
You mean Bissonette I (a.k.a. Bissonette the great) ?
Honestly, a lot of them were already independently wealthy, especially some of the ones that worked in the courts of kings and emperors. Seneca was an extremely wealthy landowner/money lender, Plato came from money, Thales (if we're going all the way back to the pre-Socratics) did too. It was a rather common theme, since you had to have a certain amount of free time in order to get access to this kind of education.
James Bizzanette supported them on Patreon.
The irony of doing a video about begging philosophers and then ending it with a thanks to your Patreon supporters, I love it
1:05
History Matters and James Bisonete in a nutshell
((How is the last name spelled lmao, do we even know?))
That's a secret we may never know
Bisonette
@@appleslover thank you
Bissonette but it doesn’t really matter
@@jamesbissonette8002 wait .....
My friend Biggus Dickus studied under Testicles.Wise man he was.
Wouldn't Dickus be over Testicles?
@@Cjnw Hey
Look at
Deez Nuts
“The real measure of your wealth is how much you’d be worth if you lost all your money.”
well your heart alone can be sold for a million bucks and your kidneys can go for like 260k so i'd say im worth way more dead with my organs sold on the black market then i'd be alive
Sharkestry ! What if you have AIDS? Your organs would be worthless
Sounds like a daily occurrence for me.
Or at least bi-annually
Well,in that case,I'm worthless.
I would still have a valuable car, PC, TV and bed.
Love the fact that you ask the questions we didn’t think we needed to ask but are greatful that they’ve been answered
This was one of my favorite videos... More than just one of my History Profs said that Aristotle, for his time, might have known everything there is to know for a particular time period or up to that date in which they lived!
"Selling knowledge is immoral"
Universities: Wait, that's illegal.
I HAVE WONDERED THIS SO MANY TIMES. Thank you 😢
0:21 he had me at the live laugh love poster in ancient greek
One of the best history channels on UA-cam.
One of the best channels of any description on UA-cam!
This channel always manages to put out very interesting topics. I have always wonder myself about this little questions but I was too lazy to explore it by myself. You sir are a contribution to human knowledge :). Also I love that the clips are short and straight tot he point.
Now this is the content I’m here for
"James Bisounette, Kelly Moneymaker" plays in my head an unreasonable amount of times.
Teachers only saying "learn stuff." Sounds like the modern school system.
just add politicians shouting, No learn THIS stuff.
One of the best kept secrets of modern philosophers is how much money they make. Many philosophy majors become ethics consultants to big corporations or go into law. The US average salary is about $80k. Not exactly a useless profession.
Getting a philosophy degree is a good route to unemployment, on a par with English Literature. It's not even a school subject in most of the English-speaking world. Whereas combining philosophy with politics and economics has the opposite effect.
Face reveal James Bisonette.
I love your videos that go over subjects we dont really think about in such a straight forward simple manner
James Bizonette funded them is my guess.
How is possible that this channel allways has an answer for every question I come rondomly? Please keep doing this
"You see, a lot of philosophers weren't very wealthy and would often take to begging for food or money."
So, pretty much the same thing as now.
I never thought you'd make a video were I actually wondered about what the video was about before seeing the video.
Shame my family are never mentioned as the greatest philosophers
Bruh.
Cool video! Forgot to mention that Thales, the first philosopher, also became rich by using astronomy to become the first real estate speculator! Maybe make a video on that?
"Diogenes guide to tax evasion"
Alexander to Aristotelis: "Shall i conquer more?" loooooooooooooooool. U r great mate! Knowledge with fun. Thank you
Answer: ,, It's up to you to decide, how much on this world you want to see and take"
This video is sponsored by James Bizanet. Or is it?
Or Danny maloni
Spinning Three Plates
If James Bizanet falls in a forest …
James Bisonette, read the description
i remember one philospher noted a correlation between rainfall and grape harvests, so at the end of one dry year he bought a lot of grape presses and winemaking equipment for cheap, then sold them for a lot of money the next year
2:28 James Bizonette, The Pastry Section..." I wish I had thought of that as my online alias!
Slip an & between the two and you have an exquisite name for a pre-rock music group.
in case you are wondering, the sign at 1:02 says "Live, laugh, love"
*VIDEO SUGGESTION:*
Why was Napoleon Bonaparte never executed?
The French would be incredibly pissed off if their beloved leader was executed, probably just leading to more war.
But he was poisoned
@@Marinealver He got poisoned by the green copper-arsenic based pigmint on his walls, because he loved the green colour. The toxicity of arsenic seems to have been unknown back then.
Because it was considered impolite to kill monarchs
@@caiawlodarski5339 tell that to Robespier
You've no idea how long I've wondered this. You have scratched an immortal itch. Bless you.
So I guess James Bissonnette is a celeb on this channel now?
He has always been celebrity on this channel. The great Patreon of a great history channel!
Hey, nice vid, but there was also another common source of income for philosophers: being descended from a wealthy family. Plato is a prime example of this, he came from one of the most aristocratic and rich families in Athens, and basically never ran out of money. Thucydides is another example, as he was also born obscenely wealthy, and I would claim that he does qualify as a "philosopher"
Seneca should have known where serving a neck beard would get him. He has only himself to blame.
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(for sure: more you don't give a Fuck, more they surrender, more you can see theirs "true colors" / Hypocrisy and meanness served for free / they don't ask for, they impose...)
Your jokes are so 2012, next you will say that he was an Atheist virgin.
He couldn't know beforehand, Nero was still a child when Seneca became his tutor.
@@-haclong2366 Of course not, he was neither of those things.
@@marioreds7826 Does'nt that means that Seneca had a large influence over the future Emperor?
"Give me money and I'll stop bothering you" - probably Diogenes
Socrates was a mason. Aristotle was a teacher and a physician, and in fact tutor to Alexander the Great at one point. Plato was an aristocrat of wealthy family. (He tried being a playwrite early in his career, then gave it up for philosophy, where he could not help continuing to write dialogues. He was also, in his youth, a wrestler and built for it; “Plato” is a nickname from that time, meaning “broad.” His real name was Aristocles.)
Interesting. I started researching science, philosophy, religion and history when I was at university, but quickly I became more interested on the individuals and how they actually lived, when they started making more notable discoveries (at what age), how they made a living or get free time, but I found it was particularly hard to find this information. Everybody knew Newton was a genius who discovered this and that, but feel could tell exactly how he'd go about it, how his routine was like, if he had to cook, make his bed, wash dishes or do laundry.
The second method is widely adopted today even on a certain website!
I've never thought of this before! Also the signs are so good in this one!!
We all know, The philosophers were paid......
By James Byzzanet
So nice having these videos short and concise
History Matters: some philosophers have patrons.
also History Matters: I would like to thank my patrons.
Philosophy Matters?
Ancient philosophers: *woman with a lot of vocals*
Medieval hermits: *man with one vocal*
I like the way the list of patrons comes up at the end of the video
Love ancient Greece and their ideas and principals. They gave the world: democracy, free speech, modern medicin, individual rights, constitutional form of government and many more. Lets not forget that although modern Greece has a high debt, we are also in debt to them. :)
Love and respect Greece from Czechia, I'm partialy Greek myself. 🇨🇿❤🇬🇷
I don't think _Ancient_ Greece could invent _Modern_ medicine. That just doesn't make any sense.
Plus, the Babylonians and the Persians invented the idea of individual rights first with the Code of Hammurabi and the Cyrus Cylinder.
Yea it's cool
@@syrialak101
They made modern medical ethic for sure with Hyppocrate.
First become rich,then become a philosopher-srk.
I always wondered about this, thanks for making the video
They simply got sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!
Another video on something I wondered but kinda didn’t know I wondered, but I was wondering
"And the third way they made money was perhaps the most common,they'd find a wealthy patron"
*We all know who was that patron is don't we?*
No idea here, whatchu talking about?
0:20
The "Live, Laugh, Love" in the background... Lol
"Selling knowledge is immoral"
Teachers: '-'
The Teachers Unions would be more accurate.
History Matters: how did philosophers make their money?
Diogenes: I don't want money to begin with leave me alone
Ah, ancient philosophers were begging like nowadays youtubers. They had an equivalent of Patreon (very Greek name btw)
This channel is the answer to all the questions I didn't know I had
Man, I can’t wait to get a Philosophy degree and enter this exciting career field!
Absolutely love the subjects you choose to cover, 10/10 for variety
"The pastry section" is new, he joined the ranks of James Bizonette, our one true god
Bissonette Hu-Akbar!
This channel is definitely on my dessert island channel list. Top stuff always.
Selling knowledge is simply inmoral, a shame that this practice continue to this day
Agreed but I don't think the knowledge these guys were sharing were that important though, I do agree it would be immoral to make a fellow countryman pay for schooling.
Ancient philosophers: "Selling knowledge is immoral"
Modern university systems of higher education: **Shrug**
Imagine getting paid to think and still getting fired lmao.
Considering the calibre of thinking needed... that and it's often down to if your patron likes your thoughts.
I had no idea I didn't know this. Now I'm totally telling people about this!
Fun fact, Roman patricians would pay people to hang out with them in public.
The idea was that if you have a lot of followers then you are more important
This was one heck of a summary.
I wonder how many philosophy students are watching this video, to see how they can escape crippling poverty
Getting a job actually helps.
@@justwannabehappy6735 This would also help refine their philosophy lol.
@@shellshockedgerman3947 philosophy is thinking your life and living in accordance of your thoughts. Any life experience enriches one's philosophy.
@@justwannabehappy6735 2020 here, not really
@@Marinealver since your argument is short and underdeveloped, all I can say is "if you say so".
I have literally ALWAYS wanted to know this!!!