This is a story where i dont feel much sympathy for any parties involved. Hiroshi was a creeper, Runa was spoiled and psychopathic, and her parents were irresponsible enablers I remain skeptical that this was just purely revenge. If that was all, why the need to make a snuff film out of it? She was clearly disturbed
I don't know enough to judge, even the authorities don't. But psychopathy, assuming she has the literal clinical mental disorder, means you literally cannot sympathize with another human being. She is still *technically* responsible because she can learn social norms as well as laws and through free will obey them. But I would put much more blame on her upbringing because she had no say in how she would turn out.
The snuff film would be a way to relive the revenge, but it is still clearly the mindset of a killer. But in Japan, you will almost never get justice for SA no matter how horrid, so some vigilantism is a welcome change.
THIS!!!! Haven’t lived with my parents in 11 years (got placed in foster care and that) I was 8 when I left. My family gives me money and I got my dads money cs the he died couple years ago (Rest In Piece your a soldier) and it showed me money is only a amplifier and if you don’t got guidance and love it’s kinda worthless and this is what the world gotta know (money makes live easy but it won’t make you happy and you need help if you think so)
According to some persons- including some that allegedly live in and around the area where Hiroshi frequented, there's some things to consider (note that this is just what people have supposedly said, and I don't read Japanese so I'm getting it secondhand) 1- Hiroshi was not just 'known to a few establishment owners', he was quite well-known and most people hated his guts because of his antics towards women. He could clear out every woman in a bar just by showing up, so he was bad for business. 2- Runa wasn't a lesbian, she was just antisocial. 3- Runa's father was the one who actually targeted this guy, and she was in on it. They saw themselves as 'vigilantes' in a way. This is just what I have heard, and I personally don't know one way or the other- just putting out there because it makes sense.
I don't know the actual story, but according to reports, her father doted on Luna, and from an early age he set out what she wanted to eat on the table and bought her anything she wanted. As a result, her father became obedient to her wishes. However, as Luna grew older, her father became troubled by her behavior. According to investigators, Luna has recently become extremely angry over trivial reasons such as not liking the placement of the furniture. As a result, her father started avoiding being at home.
Also… he did not pass as a woman. Alcohol is one hell of a drug because any sober person can tell that that was a man in a wig and lipstick 😂😂😂 I have never met a man who dresses up as a woman that seriously passed as a woman. Just looks like a guy in heels and a party city wig.
“He made up a female persona to meet and hook up with woman”. But why? How does one trick a other into hooking up? The filters alone wasn’t fooling anyone. I just don’t get the point. Its a lot of work to pull this off with little chance of success. And its really creepy that anyone would trick someone into hooking up with them like this. And lets not forget that he was married with children.
Its so women would feel comfortable enough to be alone with him so he could do what he wanted they probably thought he was just some ugly chick shaped like a brick and felt bad
It's a different situation, but I remember hearing about another case where a man would crossdress to make his victim feels safe (because for some women the thought of a dude having a female persona probably means he's gay, idk) and then would SA them. It seems some predators may use this strategy.
@@lyzetteblackston2562 I highly doubt anyone thought he was a chick, ugly or not. I mean, look at him. That picture isn't fooling anyone. How this girl fell for the lie is beyond me.
Being relentlessly bullied as a kid can fuck you up for your entire life. That kind of trauma in your unfinished brain years is so, so hard to recover from.
Yes, this is the case for me. And it is nearly 30 years since I graduated high school. But I would say that it is not normal for it to cause a person to resort to murder.
Most bullied people don't become psychopatic killers, and lots of psychos were never even bullied at all. Some people are just bad. ...Actually school shootings and slaughterings have been going UP since bullying awareness.
Been bullied as kid and in my case it made me more empathic. Instead of wishing bad on my Bullies I thought they can't comphrehend what they are actually doing. There were times where I thought if they'd realize what they do if I end myself, if that'd make them consider their actions and makes them better people (of course I also thought 'that would teach them 😅'). But actually, it made me the person I am, I am more emapthic, I think more of my actions and how it could impact others before I act, I'd say it made me a better person. See the bullying might je part of her action but it also depends greatly on what kind of person you are at the core.
It's difficult to sympathise with either party. Hiroshi seemed to be a predator while Runa was very mentally disturbed. After the incident with the cat whose to say Runa wouldn't have eventually found another victim. Perhaps she inherited her father's genes as he seems to have mental issues too. The mother may be the one to feel sorry for as she seemed to be a victim of circumstance.
@@trumanlieman1601 she done that cat wrong!! 😾 If not for the innocent feline, I'm inclined to agree. HE was the predator, not her. He messed w the wrong girl 🤭
The victim seems to have a reputation for persistently picking up women at clubs and for touching women excessively. However, it is currently unknown whether he actually r*ped anyone. Luna and her parents have remained silent from the police, so little is known about the incident. Ultimately, I don't think we will know what happened between Luna and the victim until the trial begins.
I blame the government that allows offenders like Hiroshi to get away with S.A. and, intentional or not, intimidate victims into not speaking up. I don't care who is to blame, it has and will continue to happen until they get their shit straight.
I think this case reveals what the devastating consequences of systemic failures can be more than anything else. 1. The bullying at her school not being stopped. 2. Her parents not getting her the help she needed 3. most devastatingly, a system which fails to tackle and prevent a culture of s£xual violence. When nothing happens to people like that they will continue to offend without fear of retribution and eventually vigilantism becomes the only form of "justice" accessible to victims. The odds of accidentally targeting a psychopath are slim but never zero.
@@Rocky13Ray i dont think she hated men... just the ones who fkd w/her... i can relate... when ur put in a situation where no one protects you or punishes the man who harmed you, ur thrown in a dark space. if ppl can do whatever they want to u w/o punishment, u will see some ppl do crazy shit to get revenge and even protect other ppl from them in the future... (IE: this one guy's pregnant gf punched me in the face once for no reason, and he thought i was gonna fight her, so he grabbed me and slammed me against a brick wall and pinned me there for a while, no one saw, no video, no crime... ive never gotten over that and to this day = yeaaaars later - i still want revenge on this guy, and he didnt even really do much to me... but the fact that he slammed me so hard, hurt me, i thought he was gonna fk me up honestly, or let his gf beat on me, it was fkn scary... every time i see him around town i start looking around for cameras and plotting how i can get back at him. ive never done anything to him. but damn... men dont understand how women can go fkn crazy when men get away w/shit they do to us... revenge... i honestly can see this crazy Japanese girl and her father killing this guy if he raped her and he got away w/it.... but the decapitation and playing w the head and skin is a whole other level of depraved morbid shit i dunno how anyone could do that... but some ppl be crazy so... maybe i can believe it)
2 might have also stemmed from the fact that there is a conflict of interest when you get your daughter help from colleagues that know you and who might be influenced by that relationship. There is also the usual issue of maintaining a family's image. Finally, it seems like she was their only child and they had their own issues with the hoarding and the fact that they planned this out and were deluded enough to think they could get away with it. They had hyper specific knowledge and enough money but not enough sense.
I have a lot of trouble believing that parents would assist their daughter in murdering someone if it was simply the guy lying about being a man. He almost definitely assaulted her.
That's what I'm thinking too. Being catfished by some old creep is shitty, yes, but it's not usually something you'd be ready to kill someone over. Being assaulted definitely is something that you'd want someone dead over, and almost anyones parents would be on board with killing someone who hurt their child. But then again, maybe they really did believe she wouldn't go through with it and would've gotten her rage out of her system and been able to deal with it by telling him off and keying his car or something.
Shout out to wife for bringing this to your attention!! Such an interesting, yet haunting true crime story. I've not heard of it before your upload, so thank you both.
I just realized that I have been a fan of yours for 8 years now. Its crazy to realize how much time as passed when you've stayed a constant in my life. Thank you for always being there, Lazy!!!
I think the fact that she first practiced on a cat is very telling as to what happened here. This was almost certainly premeditated. The woman, and her father, are psychopathic.
@@michaelcastro5339i feel like the mom just got dragged into it tbh, he said she was troubled by what was happening and couldnt keep it secret like she was told to, she told her relatives/friends what happened before they got arrested
This is an excellent point and killing a poor, innocent cat for practice at beheading is just so completely insane (and also, that's an early mark for a budding serial killer, isn't it?). If it was just revenge, she'd have just killed him, not filmed it, taken souvenirs, and kept a *head* in the fridge. If they'd gotten away with it, they'd have likely evolved into actual serial killers. Still pissed about the cat.
Why are yall tip toeing around the fact that ol' dude was a r@pist? Like.... Yes, Runa is a psychopath. But she killed a r@pist. Not a "less than stellar guy", not just a guy that "cheated on his wife". A r@pist.
@@HouseTre007 just because something is the way it is, doesn’t mean it should stay as such. I know I’m not gonna be changing anyone’s mind, but I’d like to try whenever I can. If that gets me doxxed, hated on, and threatened, well what else is new.
wait- are we sure that runa’s father was a drag queen?? because the two photos shown are clearly tributes to the 70s prog band Genesis’ Peter Gabriel’s costumes (the flower, and The watcher of the skies), none of which were female or drag.
Luna's father has been in a band since he was a student. His band used to cover Genesis songs. So I don't think he's a drag queen as you say. His band's videos are on UA-cam
What's annoying now is that this video will be watched by hundreds of people and they will default believe the "drag queen" angle because this is just not something you can quickly fix in video format. He should research a bit more thoroughly next time..
@allthatheavenwillallow2933 They didn't say you had to be. I don't think anybody aside his family cares that freak of nature is gone. Just that the woman and her parents shouldn't be looked at in any positive light themselves for planning a murder, carrying it out, and reveling in it. Sorry to tell you this, but sometimes in life both sides are irredeemable.
I was gonna say, there's literally no case for self-defense or anything of the sort. Being wronged in a way that's entirely non-life threatening and not trusting law enforcement is not justification for murder.
"Excuse me sir, i know you're having a bath, and i'm probably being rude by asking this, but you've stayed past the time you were supposed to lea- HOLY SHIT NO HEAD"
I think that he didn't. Pampering to a limited extend may be what a loving father does, but enabling is not what he would do. A loving father teaches his kids, boundaries and morals, and a degree of tough love will be involved.
I think Hiroshi shouldnt have decieved Runa like that. Its fucked up. But what Runa did after she was humiliated was just twisted and disturbing, and that the family pretty much backed it up. Runa had major red flags before she did this and the family really didnt do anything
Like someone else pointed out, plenty of killers keep objects or, in this case body parts, from their victims as some kind of sick souvenir of their crimes. There could be other reasons, but that's usually the most common among that kind of people. Even more so in this case where there seems to be video evidence in which Runa can be seen literally playing with the severed head.
@@speedwagoncito killers keep rings or some other jewelry, they don’t stash a whole head unless you’re Dahmer or Gacey. The smell of it alone can attract suspicion. Weird… the fact that she could convince her family to all join in makes you wonder, was this the first time.
@@monicahyland8641 Not only Dahmer or Gacy have done that though? They may be some of the most "popular" ones, but they are by no means the only ones who can and would do that. There's been plenty other killers who have taken bodies or body parts and kept them as some kind of souvenir, whether it is because of some sick pleasure or as a result of the killer's own attachment issues. There have been cases where bodies have been kept in relatively small apartments or houses and neighbors either don't notice or don't care enough to authorities. Runa was said to have kept the guy's wallet, phone and other personal items, along with the head and there's also the fact that she filmed part of the slaying and /also/ filmed herself or had someone film her at home while playing with the head, apparently even peeling parts of the skin off at some point. It's clear that she saw it as some kind of trophy and that she wasn't particularly worried about getting caught, hence why no one was truly worried about getting rid of those "souvenirs" (the head, the items and the videos). Considering the size of the family house, chances are none of them thought they would get caught by the smell alone, especially if the father had some medical knowledge, as he may have had the means to hide the smell (he planned this along with Runa, and even seems to have instructed her, so he definitely was prepared). Point is all this seemed to work, as the reason why Runa's home was searched by police was not the smell, but the evidence found in Hiroshi's computer that led them to Runa.
More than anything this plays out like a dark absurdist comedy where a psychopath accidentally targets another psychopath. Reminds me of the movie Barbarian where the offender accidentally owns a house with another offender in the basement.
Nah, I know plenty of people who collect knives, guns, and other things that should be kept out of reach of children and not a one of them has murdered anyone.
This is one case that is so disturbing that you can't justify or root for anyone in it. The Guilty Party were seriously messed up but the victim was also unsympathetic as he was a sexual predator. The fact this was just a case of eighter party should have met each other and it cultivated into this sick and messed up scenario. Also i like to point out at least from my interpretation partly why this occurred is due to the culture within Japan that is severely backwards behind in other areas, how poorly they treated sexual assault, bullying, childhood enabling and not taking sexual predation seriously which all were factors that played into this.
I could have believed revenge until she took the video with the initial stabbing and playing with the corpse, that goes beyond revenge killing into pleasure killing
Not gonna lie, I’d watch a Netflix original about this: “hikikomori lesbian takes revenge on men who take advantage of women.” Sounds kinda lit actually lol
I'm thinking if Japan would handle sexual assault with more authority, and punishment...maybe people would not feel compelled to handle things like this vigilante style! 🤔😕
IMO: he fukd around & found out... cat was prolly practice - u said urself that sexual assault in Japan isnt dealt w/by authority - Dads do crazy things when men fk w/their daughters (my Dads fought the neighborhood for me) - yea...that man poked the bear
She was a murder in the making. She had a goal of killing men. Please do not excuse any of this otherwise its more than likely you're a femcel like she was.
Thanks for bringing us this intriguing story Mama Lazy! I would hope regardless of the outcome, SA is taken a bit more seriously, bullying, and mental health. These are all global issues that this story pulls together in the most bizarre, neat little package!
I mean it’s hard to feel bad for Hiroshi like he should’ve been in jail and punished along time ago. While Runa, even tho I don’t agree with what she and her family did, she needed help and treatment. Sadly her parents didn’t seem to or think she needed that. Although to be fair if they’re mentally ill as well it wouldn’t be possible to take care of her much less themselves.
This is a strange one that can't be debated, as to "who did what/which side was justified?" I can't say Runa clearly has problems that are running deeper than just some guy catfishing her, I mean she practiced killing him with a cat for gods sake. And Hiroshi honestly had some comeuppance coming as he broke his agreement with Runa, and her parents after he had creeped on her under the pretenses she'd not take this to the authorities, so him setting up a third date was asking for trouble. I don't know I'd honestly blame the justice system/Runa's parents, the law should of been stricter with Hiroshi when he started sexually assaulting women and peeping in public, whereas when Runa nearly stabbed her classmate and threatened to kill him next her parents should of gotten involved and explained she can't do that stuff, or worse case scenario let her see an anger management therapist.
@@Rocky13Ray misandry is a response to misogyny , and is not on the same level as misogny . i wouldnt call her a misandrist , more like mentally ill and extremely angry about being taken advantage of . definitely not the same thing
First, that is ONE MESSED UP FAMILY!!!! I can't even imagine a whole family (unless they are a crime family) working together on murdering someone like it's just another family activity. NO ONE in that group did anything good. My God!! 😱😱😱 But also, I have to wonder what would have happened if I had stayed in Japan. I get that there is bullying everywhere, but it seems like it's much more accepted in Japan. I was picked on constantly in the first and second grades (I left for the U.S. when I was in the second grade), though my at-the-time-mostly-absentee mom, once she learned that I walked (quite a long ways) to her and my to-be-stepdad's shack-up house rather than go home to my grandmothers, because I was being followed by one of the bullies, actually did something - she went to the boy's house and gave a pretty good reprimand to his parents, after which the boy stopped bullying me and started being super fake-nice. But my mom didn't know the extent of the bullying - it involved most of the class. My mom thought it was just the one boy. I was constantly sick, thinking back, probably due to continuous stress at school. All because I had vision problems and wore very thick glasses. I actually DID have a lot of friends in my immediate neighborhood - people I grew up with, teenagers and older kids who were my mentors, younger kids who were almost like siblings, even a little boyfriend when I was about 4 or 5. But at school, it was a whole different story. In Japan, they seem less tolerant of those that are "different," perhaps more so in smaller towns and cities, like where I lived as a little kid. When I got to the U.S. sure, there were a few bullies, but most were very accepting, even though I was a foreigner with very limited English skills, and still wore my horrible thick glasses. I made friends, and even though we moved quite a lot since my dad (OK, step-dad) was in the Navy, I still managed to have much more peace than in Japan. In fact, I didn't get sick nearly as often (just the usual childhood colds and such). Maybe it was just the climate, but I think my mental state has SOMETHING to do with it. Would I have made friends and become more social later in school? Would I have become withdrawn? Would I have just figured out a way to cope? Would kids have been more accepting as we got older? I don't know. I don't think I would have become a sociopath but I do notice that I have vengeful thoughts, and do get very angry at what I perceive to be injustice or bullying behavior. I don't act on it, I certainly wouldn't KILL anyone, but it's definitely there. Probably no correlation, but interesting to think about.
What the hell? How is there any question this was wrong? He should be in jail and the killing shouldn’t have happened. Not even bringing up the argument that self justice is not a appropriate way to deal with stuff (especially before even contacting any authorities) is disgusting.
No part of the world does,mine didn't even serve a day in jail,and yet I'm still paying for being held down and violated over a decade later mentally. To assume a patriarchal society with rapists and paedophiles in power everywhere would ever punish predators is a lovely thought but it'd never happen
People saying they don't feel sympathy for either party when the guy's crimes where sexually assaulting and watching woman without their consent and the girls crimes were being annoying and spoiled and murdering a predator... Not saying either of them are in the right but one of these is not like the other
I think you miss the part where the claims of the guy graping her are based on online comments, not based on any findings in the case at all. we literally have no idea if he assaulted her or not. it seems to me that the dad and daughter actively were looking to kill someone, hence why the dad even came to the club to scout this guy out.
Dire Trip did a video on this case. I have a hard time feeling bad for the guy. People usually do this when they feel as though justice can't happen any other way. Wanting to dress up is one thing but fooling people and then taking advantage in irreparable harm is another. I'm interested to hear what else comes out. It sounded like he had done this to a few women.
@@kimitokki7171Jacob Gellar made some excellent points in his essay on the subject. It's very much not a simple "for or against" subject, but it's easy to feel driven by a sense of justice when it's really an emotional reaction - not excluding myself in that, fwiw. And it gets ever more complicated the more you learn about the history, methods, mistakes (Myles Power on the N/\zi who tried to fight him on false "proof" from bots stolen from C camps - same H denier who lied his way into designing dozens of US gas chambers despite having NO qualifications)... and DNA exonerations. Really, I hope you will peer into it more.
I'm curious about what he thought was going to happen when the women he was lying to found out he was a man. Did he think he was going to magically win them over with his irresistible charm?
It's even worse because her dad was a shrink. I mean, if even your shrink is nutty as a fruitcake... damn. The hoarding too. I like to think my therapist has their shit more together than me. Otherwise, what's the point?!
I don't get it. An older man dresses up as a lesbian woman to court ladies. That I don't get. Because, best case scenario for him, he hooks up with a lesbian. Then what? I mean, it's not like she's gonna go all "Oh well, I've gone this far, might as well." when she finds out he's a man.
I personally really appreciate how you emphasize the distinction of him not being trans or having a differing gender identity. I have seen this case used to validify harmful stereotypes of trans people, not understanding that this was not the case. Your effort to portray cases in a neutral light and only give facts makes me really appreciate your content.
Looks like Runa was bullied to the point she flipped, kinda looks that not just her peers in school feared her, looks like her parents might fear her as well and that's why they complied... Iroshi had a reputation to mantain, mild manered and well respected, however, he was actually a pervert who catfished young women to get advantage of them... Runa's father asked him to leave her alone... And still, he just couldn't let her go... He was not a good person and maybe the reaction was extreme, however, whatever is the case, I feel no simpaty or pitty for him...
I agree, obviously she shouldn't have killed him but he was definitely NOT a good person. He should have been in jail instead of being free to be a creep and use his "female persona" to look less dangerous. If his predatory behavior had been taken more seriously he wouldn't have died for sure...
Found out about studies suggesting victims of long-term bullying are more likely to have emotional and psychological problems then with just S.A. We have legal abuse that is similar if not worse then an illegal one. And we ain't doing shit about it.
@@Sry342 exactly. If he had left her alone, he would be alive rn. I don't feel bad for men who abuse women and then get taken down by one of thier victims.
@@iAmNothingnessdoesn't sound crazy actually that sounds very normal and sane, if someone does something violent like that i will dislike them no matter the gender
my favourite channel to watch when it comes to stories from japan because i don't have to cringe at japanese names and words being butchered by an english accent, your pronunciation is brutal. ❣
I’m sorry, I must’ve misheard you, did you say that her parents helped her film herself playing around with the dude’s disembodied head?!?! *OH HELL NO!!!!*
Was it tho? He'd lied, forced himself on her & he'd done the same to several other women! He wouldn't have stopped. Had he not been a nasty man, he'd still have his head.
@@edi9892doesn't matter if he forced himself on HER,he's a multi-offending rapist,she just did what all of us wish we could and now he can't do it again.
In Runa and her father's case, the nut didn't fall far from the tree. I feel like her father suffered from mental illness himself, especially since he helped her to plan and carry out the m*rder. Her mother may have thought that the two would drive around for a while and not go through with it, but she is just as culpable as they are for his m*rder, regardless. Let's face it, he was no angel, far from it, actually. I feel like he was taking advantage of young women on dating sites by pretending that he was a lesbian. One would think that, if he was drugging and assaulting them, someone would have come forward about it happening to them during the publicity in the aftermath of his m*rder. The entire situation is incredibly disturbing. Personally, I feel like she was mentally ill as a child and her odd behavior because of it is why she was bullied and made fun of and, of course, the bullying and teasing caused her mental illness to become more pronounced. Then, the years of isolation, being protected by her parents, etc., escalated until she stalked and m*rders this man. It truly appears that her father was fully involved with the m*rder from the beginning since he was at the disco on their first "date" and watched from a distance. Who knows? It's incredibly frightening to think about people like any one of them being out there, isn't it?
Thanks so much for this extremely fresh case! Thanks to Mrs. Lazy as well. Wow, this was a big one. From the info here, my hot take is 2-fold: On the one hand, the female part of me says that Runa and her father DID warn Hiroshi and he effed around and found out. If more women were able to be proactive in their own abuse cases there would be far less abuse. The much larger remaining (not influenced by gender) part of me says NO NO NO NO NO none of this is okay! This is not a healthy family! This is not something father and daughter are meant to bond over. There has got to be far more going on behind the family scenes if they're willing to push to such extreme boundaries. I'm just glad Mr. Tamura is not my psychologist, or my father. The strangeness of this family goes beyond cultural borders. If there is truth to Hiroshi's past he should not have been on the streets in the first place, as a matter of public safety. Hearing of the web he entangled unsuspecting women in to do them harm has stripped away a lot of the concern I may have had for his well-being. He reminds me of Joji Obara. But who knows? We may find out more information and I will eat my words. Otherwise, I'm glad he's not my father either.
She was a complete nutcase in the making. It more than likely could have been any male she murdered. She had deep hatred towards men and professed it online.
This is clearly a scummy person who ran into a serial killer in training. The dude was a terrible person, but basically everything said about him is heresay and she clearly planned it out and apparently japan has awful laws about sex crimes or just doesnt enforce them. So i dont know where i stand, but this girl was probably going to kill someone eventually no matter what.
Most logical comment here. I can't believe how many people excused her of "she just got bullied " or the fact that there are sympathizers of hatred of men.
@@humble2246 Simps and neckbeards suffering from Yellow Fever. They'll take any Asian woman they can get their hands on, and oftentimes prefer the "broken" ones so they can fulfill their savior complex. Life is an anime to these people, after all. Or it's just a simple case of "no woman can do wrong" syndrome. People like to think women have to be pushed into something drastic, though if a man suffered the exact same injustices, anything he does as a result is his own fault. Fun, isn't it?
To be honest, I think that Runa had enough of a motive to kill. In this case Hiroshi was in a way the unfortunate "victim" of Runa's deep seeded anger. She hated men due to her bullying and she would pretty much bottle up that anger. So when Hiroshi came and lied to her, it was just the perfect excuse for her to kill. She showed it when she chased her classmate with a box cutter and then threatened him afterwards. Of course in a way its sad that she had to endure the bullying but its also one of the main reasons why she ended up doing what she did in the future. Her parents also didn't help at the fact that they pretty much bend over backwards for Runa. Its understandable that they cared for her and wanted the best, but giving all the power to your children and having them boss you around is not they way to go. If her father was a psychatrist, then she should've spoken to her and tried to get to the bottom of it. Hiroshi also wasn't a saint too, because he too was part of cheating. Just that he met the wrong person to do said catfishing and overall was just taking advantage of women too. Sooner or later it was going to catch up with him too.
I really liked this story..it's a breath of fresh air to hear what happens in other places..I hope you'll continue to bring us stories from every walk of life.
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Here’s a really interesting story fresh out of Japan that I wanted to share! Please be respectful in the comments and enjoy the show
Love your videos bud. Lost count on how many years I’ve subbed to your channel 🙂
Yeah ❤ thanks lazy masquerade your awesome 🎉
Researching this case must have made you very happy that you married your beautiful wife!
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These two people meeting each other was really like throwing matches on gasoline.
Matches actually dont light gasoline very well, due to how wet it is..
I get your point though.
Spilling fuel into fire you mean
The true victim in all this was the cat.
I'm only 7 minutes in, don't tell me she kills a cat too...
That destroyed me, poor thing had nothing to do with her s**y life.
Do we actually know she killed the cat?
really? are you that naive? @@psychokinrazalon
@@nodruj8681 It wasn’t said in this video that she did. I’m only asking for clarification whether we know for a fact she did.
"Whittle away her days on the internet"??? Hey now don't alienate your audience, mister.
Lol....I too felt called out.
... literally me 😂😂... 😭
Lmao exactly
She was a loser
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This is a story where i dont feel much sympathy for any parties involved. Hiroshi was a creeper, Runa was spoiled and psychopathic, and her parents were irresponsible enablers
I remain skeptical that this was just purely revenge. If that was all, why the need to make a snuff film out of it? She was clearly disturbed
My thoughts exactly.
I don't know enough to judge, even the authorities don't. But psychopathy, assuming she has the literal clinical mental disorder, means you literally cannot sympathize with another human being. She is still *technically* responsible because she can learn social norms as well as laws and through free will obey them. But I would put much more blame on her upbringing because she had no say in how she would turn out.
only person i felt bad for was the poor headless cat
The entire family was disturbed.
The snuff film would be a way to relive the revenge, but it is still clearly the mindset of a killer.
But in Japan, you will almost never get justice for SA no matter how horrid, so some vigilantism is a welcome change.
Children don’t need endless money for gifts, they want their parents to spend time with them, that’s all
Spoken like a kid whose parents don’t suck complete ass.
They want money
I know a few kids that grew up wealthy, some very well off. They all say they never saw their fathers much growing up.
THIS!!!! Haven’t lived with my parents in 11 years (got placed in foster care and that) I was 8 when I left. My family gives me money and I got my dads money cs the he died couple years ago (Rest In Piece your a soldier) and it showed me money is only a amplifier and if you don’t got guidance and love it’s kinda worthless and this is what the world gotta know (money makes live easy but it won’t make you happy and you need help if you think so)
My dad was a raging alcoholic. Ill take the money over spending time with him please
I'm not sure this is JUST a revenge kill... She was playing with his head after the fact. She clearly enjoyed this.
agreed❤
According to some persons- including some that allegedly live in and around the area where Hiroshi frequented, there's some things to consider (note that this is just what people have supposedly said, and I don't read Japanese so I'm getting it secondhand)
1- Hiroshi was not just 'known to a few establishment owners', he was quite well-known and most people hated his guts because of his antics towards women. He could clear out every woman in a bar just by showing up, so he was bad for business.
2- Runa wasn't a lesbian, she was just antisocial.
3- Runa's father was the one who actually targeted this guy, and she was in on it. They saw themselves as 'vigilantes' in a way.
This is just what I have heard, and I personally don't know one way or the other- just putting out there because it makes sense.
I think her father played a huge part in the murder. He seemed manipulative and Runa was gullible.
I don't know the actual story, but according to reports, her father doted on Luna, and from an early age he set out what she wanted to eat on the table and bought her anything she wanted. As a result, her father became obedient to her wishes. However, as Luna grew older, her father became troubled by her behavior. According to investigators, Luna has recently become extremely angry over trivial reasons such as not liking the placement of the furniture. As a result, her father started avoiding being at home.
She wasn't well socialised so maybe thought this was what receiving head meant
Their hoarding was so severe they couldn’t even get rid of the murder evidence….
A definite sign that you have a problem lol, hell several.
The guy was a predator, but she's obviously nuts. The cat was obviously another victim of hers.
She would have killed someone else sooner or later
i feel bad for the cat. not the trans dude.
not trans.@@TheHikeChoseMe
We can fix her
Also… he did not pass as a woman. Alcohol is one hell of a drug because any sober person can tell that that was a man in a wig and lipstick 😂😂😂 I have never met a man who dresses up as a woman that seriously passed as a woman. Just looks like a guy in heels and a party city wig.
Two Lazy videos in a week? It's Christmas ⛄
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas
It’s not vlogmas it’s Lazymas 😂
They make more money in November and December, hence the uptick in videos.
Happy December M8
“He made up a female persona to meet and hook up with woman”. But why? How does one trick a other into hooking up? The filters alone wasn’t fooling anyone. I just don’t get the point. Its a lot of work to pull this off with little chance of success. And its really creepy that anyone would trick someone into hooking up with them like this. And lets not forget that he was married with children.
Its so women would feel comfortable enough to be alone with him so he could do what he wanted they probably thought he was just some ugly chick shaped like a brick and felt bad
@@lyzetteblackston2562 lol. Well, that backfired badly as she brought her father to the club to meet him.
It's a different situation, but I remember hearing about another case where a man would crossdress to make his victim feels safe (because for some women the thought of a dude having a female persona probably means he's gay, idk) and then would SA them. It seems some predators may use this strategy.
@@lyzetteblackston2562 I highly doubt anyone thought he was a chick, ugly or not. I mean, look at him. That picture isn't fooling anyone. How this girl fell for the lie is beyond me.
He was probably pretending to be a trans woman, considering they met on a website for lesbians
Being relentlessly bullied as a kid can fuck you up for your entire life. That kind of trauma in your unfinished brain years is so, so hard to recover from.
Yes, this is the case for me. And it is nearly 30 years since I graduated high school. But I would say that it is not normal for it to cause a person to resort to murder.
Most bullied people don't become psychopatic killers, and lots of psychos were never even bullied at all. Some people are just bad. ...Actually school shootings and slaughterings have been going UP since bullying awareness.
Been bullied as a kid, never thought about murder. Sometimes bullies end up being killers bc self esteem issues
Been bullied as kid and in my case it made me more empathic. Instead of wishing bad on my Bullies I thought they can't comphrehend what they are actually doing. There were times where I thought if they'd realize what they do if I end myself, if that'd make them consider their actions and makes them better people (of course I also thought 'that would teach them 😅'). But actually, it made me the person I am, I am more emapthic, I think more of my actions and how it could impact others before I act, I'd say it made me a better person. See the bullying might je part of her action but it also depends greatly on what kind of person you are at the core.
@@Senya19 Yes-- this is the case for me as well.
It's difficult to sympathise with either party. Hiroshi seemed to be a predator while Runa was very mentally disturbed. After the incident with the cat whose to say Runa wouldn't have eventually found another victim. Perhaps she inherited her father's genes as he seems to have mental issues too. The mother may be the one to feel sorry for as she seemed to be a victim of circumstance.
She didnt do anything wrong
@@trumanlieman1601 she done that cat wrong!! 😾 If not for the innocent feline, I'm inclined to agree. HE was the predator, not her. He messed w the wrong girl 🤭
I mean she still helped her daughter hides the evidences of her crimes so I don't feel sorry for the mother either
The victim seems to have a reputation for persistently picking up women at clubs and for touching women excessively. However, it is currently unknown whether he actually r*ped anyone. Luna and her parents have remained silent from the police, so little is known about the incident. Ultimately, I don't think we will know what happened between Luna and the victim until the trial begins.
I blame the government that allows offenders like Hiroshi to get away with S.A. and, intentional or not, intimidate victims into not speaking up. I don't care who is to blame, it has and will continue to happen until they get their shit straight.
Lazy sitting here saying "put this mystery on ice" as if we didn't remember what happened to the head. 😅
Yea... that was the joke...
I think this case reveals what the devastating consequences of systemic failures can be more than anything else.
1. The bullying at her school not being stopped.
2. Her parents not getting her the help she needed
3. most devastatingly, a system which fails to tackle and prevent a culture of s£xual violence.
When nothing happens to people like that they will continue to offend without fear of retribution and eventually vigilantism becomes the only form of "justice" accessible to victims.
The odds of accidentally targeting a psychopath are slim but never zero.
All she needed to do what handle her hatred of men
@@Rocky13Ray i dont think she hated men... just the ones who fkd w/her... i can relate... when ur put in a situation where no one protects you or punishes the man who harmed you, ur thrown in a dark space. if ppl can do whatever they want to u w/o punishment, u will see some ppl do crazy shit to get revenge and even protect other ppl from them in the future... (IE: this one guy's pregnant gf punched me in the face once for no reason, and he thought i was gonna fight her, so he grabbed me and slammed me against a brick wall and pinned me there for a while, no one saw, no video, no crime... ive never gotten over that and to this day = yeaaaars later - i still want revenge on this guy, and he didnt even really do much to me... but the fact that he slammed me so hard, hurt me, i thought he was gonna fk me up honestly, or let his gf beat on me, it was fkn scary... every time i see him around town i start looking around for cameras and plotting how i can get back at him. ive never done anything to him. but damn... men dont understand how women can go fkn crazy when men get away w/shit they do to us... revenge... i honestly can see this crazy Japanese girl and her father killing this guy if he raped her and he got away w/it.... but the decapitation and playing w the head and skin is a whole other level of depraved morbid shit i dunno how anyone could do that... but some ppl be crazy so... maybe i can believe it)
The video clearly stated the otherwise. @@ToastyDanzig
@Rocky13Ray yes, through therapy, because she associated men and boys with her being bullied.
2 might have also stemmed from the fact that there is a conflict of interest when you get your daughter help from colleagues that know you and who might be influenced by that relationship. There is also the usual issue of maintaining a family's image. Finally, it seems like she was their only child and they had their own issues with the hoarding and the fact that they planned this out and were deluded enough to think they could get away with it. They had hyper specific knowledge and enough money but not enough sense.
I have a lot of trouble believing that parents would assist their daughter in murdering someone if it was simply the guy lying about being a man. He almost definitely assaulted her.
That's what I'm thinking too. Being catfished by some old creep is shitty, yes, but it's not usually something you'd be ready to kill someone over. Being assaulted definitely is something that you'd want someone dead over, and almost anyones parents would be on board with killing someone who hurt their child. But then again, maybe they really did believe she wouldn't go through with it and would've gotten her rage out of her system and been able to deal with it by telling him off and keying his car or something.
Armchair detectives trying to justify blatant murder. Crazy...
You must know. You were there.
@iAmNothingness People tend to build theories when they watch criminal cases, babe. Don't think too hard, you might form a wrinkle in your brain
@@gayindianman9114 who hurt you bro, lol
Please note: If you get catfished, do not take it out on a literal cat. Blame fish like a normal person
😂😂😂
Thank god fish aren't into cash
Don't take ANY lives!
@@oogabooga1971it's a joke 😭😭
@@oogabooga1971found the vegan
Shout out to wife for bringing this to your attention!! Such an interesting, yet haunting true crime story. I've not heard of it before your upload, so thank you both.
I just realized that I have been a fan of yours for 8 years now. Its crazy to realize how much time as passed when you've stayed a constant in my life. Thank you for always being there, Lazy!!!
I think the fact that she first practiced on a cat is very telling as to what happened here. This was almost certainly premeditated. The woman, and her father, are psychopathic.
You forgot the mother, she helped plan and execute the deed...
@@michaelcastro5339i feel like the mom just got dragged into it tbh, he said she was troubled by what was happening and couldnt keep it secret like she was told to, she told her relatives/friends what happened before they got arrested
This is an excellent point and killing a poor, innocent cat for practice at beheading is just so completely insane (and also, that's an early mark for a budding serial killer, isn't it?). If it was just revenge, she'd have just killed him, not filmed it, taken souvenirs, and kept a *head* in the fridge.
If they'd gotten away with it, they'd have likely evolved into actual serial killers.
Still pissed about the cat.
Lazyさんは本当に日本ものが得意ですね。日本住みが長いからなのか奥様のおかげかは分かりませんが、大変貴重なスキルを持っていらっしゃると思います。これからも質の高い動画を期待しています！
ありがとうございます！
lazyは基本的に話盛ってる感じがするし、佐野房子の写真間違えたりとか色々事実誤認もある。なので俺はlazyが日本の事件が得意だとはあんまり思わないな。
@@まーくん-h6i お気持ちは大変分かります。そういう部分もあろうかと。一方で私自身は東欧や南米の事件なんかだと全く無知なので、自分の出身国以外の情報を言語の壁もありながらリサーチできる能力には感嘆します。年寄りなので人の良い部分ばかり見る癖がついてしまっているのかもしれませんね。ご意見ありがとうございます。
@@sonny9054 あなたの意見は尊重します。ですが当たり前ですが、彼の扱う事件には全て被害者がいます。なので動画の内容は出来る限り正しくあるべきだと思います。ましてや彼は160万人以上のフォロワーがいます。動画を表に出す以上は言語の壁は理由にはならないと思います。
@@まーくん-h6i 鋭いご意見ですね。ありがとうございます。私は海外生活が長かったので取り上げてもらうだけでもありがたいと思ってしまう口です。それとこのチャンネルはあくまでエンタメとして見ているので、登録者が増えたからといってエンターテイナーが突然ジャーナリストに変貌することはできないと思っています。増えた登録者も良かれ悪しかれエンタメを求めて来たと解釈してしまいがちです。ま、演出もドキュメンタリーのそれではないですよね。その一方でおっしゃられるように、一定のオーディエンスが付いているクリエイターは、発信する内容に責任を持つべきだということもその通りだと思います。難しい問題ですが、個人的にはそうした責任の重さを恐れてクリエイターの方が発信を控えるような状況は避けてほしいので、何某かのディスクレイマーがあれば十分かと思います。
報道なのかエンタメに過ぎないのか、難しいところですね。特におっしゃられるように被害者が間違いなくいるわけですから。
Why are yall tip toeing around the fact that ol' dude was a r@pist? Like.... Yes, Runa is a psychopath. But she killed a r@pist. Not a "less than stellar guy", not just a guy that "cheated on his wife". A r@pist.
I know right. How did they even even forget all of that garbage he did?
Only by some accounts, Hiroshi was not proven to be a R-word-ist, it’s simply implied according to some sources.
@@1003JustinLawthis is the internet bro, any accusation is automatically true in the eyes of angsty ipad teenagers. 💀
@@HouseTre007 just because something is the way it is, doesn’t mean it should stay as such. I know I’m not gonna be changing anyone’s mind, but I’d like to try whenever I can.
If that gets me doxxed, hated on, and threatened, well what else is new.
pretty sure you can say rapist on here
wait- are we sure that runa’s father was a drag queen?? because the two photos shown are clearly tributes to the 70s prog band Genesis’ Peter Gabriel’s costumes (the flower, and The watcher of the skies), none of which were female or drag.
Luna's father has been in a band since he was a student. His band used to cover Genesis songs. So I don't think he's a drag queen as you say. His band's videos are on UA-cam
What's annoying now is that this video will be watched by hundreds of people and they will default believe the "drag queen" angle because this is just not something you can quickly fix in video format.
He should research a bit more thoroughly next time..
@@PoptartParasol and what if he was not a drag queen. He is still a a awful parent, and doesn't have my simpaty regardless of what he is or not.
some people will associate drag queen and bad parent unfortunately. its just the way the world works.@@Slampty
Not a drag queen, he wasnt gay
The most disturbing part of this is that you would bring your dad to the nightclub with you to find a date.
That's so true 😂😂😂
I wouldnt mind then i know my daughter is safe
if it was purely bc you were meeting a stranger online and wanted someone who can keep an eye on you then that makes a bit of sensdb
no its not really, meeting strangers online can be dangerous for anyone, but after knowing what the family was like it is
Let's meet at my local club why don't we sometimes ;) Totally not thinking of comitting premeditated/1st degree
You can't be sympathetic to a family that worked together to dispose of a body including helping take pictures of daughter "playing"
I can’t be sympathetic of a 60yo man taking advantage of women, lying about his identity and likely having a history of assault behind him.
@allthatheavenwillallow2933 They didn't say you had to be. I don't think anybody aside his family cares that freak of nature is gone. Just that the woman and her parents shouldn't be looked at in any positive light themselves for planning a murder, carrying it out, and reveling in it. Sorry to tell you this, but sometimes in life both sides are irredeemable.
I was gonna say, there's literally no case for self-defense or anything of the sort.
Being wronged in a way that's entirely non-life threatening and not trusting law enforcement is not justification for murder.
You wouldn't be sympathetic if it was a man. So please. Why do even need to say this? Isn't this like common sense?
I think we can all agree that the cat is the real victim here
The father being the top boss in charge of the psychiatric department at a hospital and then doing this, is just wild 🤯
Ok I am sorry but that "they realized he didn't have a head" was strangely funny to me 😂😂
"Excuse me sir, i know you're having a bath, and i'm probably being rude by asking this, but you've stayed past the time you were supposed to lea- HOLY SHIT NO HEAD"
Honestly I wish my father would have loved me a mere 1% of how much as Runa's father loved her daughter haha
I think that he didn't. Pampering to a limited extend may be what a loving father does, but enabling is not what he would do. A loving father teaches his kids, boundaries and morals, and a degree of tough love will be involved.
And considering the inordinately large concentration of twisted interpersonal relationships in the area, that there covers a whole lot of ground.
I think Hiroshi shouldnt have decieved Runa like that. Its fucked up. But what Runa did after she was humiliated was just twisted and disturbing, and that the family pretty much backed it up. Runa had major red flags before she did this and the family really didnt do anything
Why would they keep all that evidence in their house? You think they would try to get rid of ,THE HEAD, at least.
They probably kept it as a “souvenir”
Like someone else pointed out, plenty of killers keep objects or, in this case body parts, from their victims as some kind of sick souvenir of their crimes. There could be other reasons, but that's usually the most common among that kind of people. Even more so in this case where there seems to be video evidence in which Runa can be seen literally playing with the severed head.
@@Annabellethedoll666 Yes, like The Governor from The Walking Dead seasons 3 and 4! !
@@speedwagoncito killers keep rings or some other jewelry, they don’t stash a whole head unless you’re Dahmer or Gacey. The smell of it alone can attract suspicion. Weird… the fact that she could convince her family to all join in makes you wonder, was this the first time.
@@monicahyland8641 Not only Dahmer or Gacy have done that though? They may be some of the most "popular" ones, but they are by no means the only ones who can and would do that. There's been plenty other killers who have taken bodies or body parts and kept them as some kind of souvenir, whether it is because of some sick pleasure or as a result of the killer's own attachment issues. There have been cases where bodies have been kept in relatively small apartments or houses and neighbors either don't notice or don't care enough to authorities.
Runa was said to have kept the guy's wallet, phone and other personal items, along with the head and there's also the fact that she filmed part of the slaying and /also/ filmed herself or had someone film her at home while playing with the head, apparently even peeling parts of the skin off at some point. It's clear that she saw it as some kind of trophy and that she wasn't particularly worried about getting caught, hence why no one was truly worried about getting rid of those "souvenirs" (the head, the items and the videos).
Considering the size of the family house, chances are none of them thought they would get caught by the smell alone, especially if the father had some medical knowledge, as he may have had the means to hide the smell (he planned this along with Runa, and even seems to have instructed her, so he definitely was prepared). Point is all this seemed to work, as the reason why Runa's home was searched by police was not the smell, but the evidence found in Hiroshi's computer that led them to Runa.
He must of done something pretty bad to warrant such revenge, I doubt it was just revealing his identity.
One predator taking out another predator. The real victim was the cat.
More than anything this plays out like a dark absurdist comedy where a psychopath accidentally targets another psychopath. Reminds me of the movie Barbarian where the offender accidentally owns a house with another offender in the basement.
I won't lose any sleep over Hiroshi's death. But the cat thing was pretty disgusting and Runa seems like a violent brat.
Assuming that was her
I feel like her “collection of 20 knives“ is a good indicator that This was something she had fantasized about doing
No. Weapon collecting is a popular hobby and, by itself, doesn't hint towards any malice.
@@Ceabrus74would you say that if she had a bunch of guns in her room?
@@edmurphy812 Considering I do and I've yet to kill anybody. Yes.
Nah, I know plenty of people who collect knives, guns, and other things that should be kept out of reach of children and not a one of them has murdered anyone.
*bullies kid*
*kid snaps and attacks*
Peers: we dunno what happen
This is one case that is so disturbing that you can't justify or root for anyone in it. The Guilty Party were seriously messed up but the victim was also unsympathetic as he was a sexual predator. The fact this was just a case of eighter party should have met each other and it cultivated into this sick and messed up scenario. Also i like to point out at least from my interpretation partly why this occurred is due to the culture within Japan that is severely backwards behind in other areas, how poorly they treated sexual assault, bullying, childhood enabling and not taking sexual predation seriously which all were factors that played into this.
I could have believed revenge until she took the video with the initial stabbing and playing with the corpse, that goes beyond revenge killing into pleasure killing
Why not both?
Not gonna lie, I’d watch a Netflix original about this: “hikikomori lesbian takes revenge on men who take advantage of women.” Sounds kinda lit actually lol
it's insane that there are actually people that are capable of doing horrible stuff to others. why can't we all just live in peace
I love listening to these. As a 9-month pregnant woman, I take the advice to heart. Be careful this holiday season. And be good to each other.
Happy New Year and (God I hope) congratulations on the new baby!
the fact that the dad was a psychologist was even more insane, just shows how folks who specialize in mental health also have mental health issues
I think the father was just ignorant about his daughter's situation, you know my child could never!
I think Lazy meant Physician instead of psychologist
@@a3cools115also in japan mental health is still stigmatized, so a doctor who’s own child has mental health issues could look bad.
@@astrowolvez True, you do make a good point, but still, you just know they're not right in head
That's a pretty huge generalization to make.
I'm thinking if Japan would handle sexual assault with more authority, and punishment...maybe people would not feel compelled to handle things like this vigilante style! 🤔😕
Lazy has gifted us with 2 video's? How awesome! Thanks. ❤
IMO: he fukd around & found out... cat was prolly practice - u said urself that sexual assault in Japan isnt dealt w/by authority - Dads do crazy things when men fk w/their daughters (my Dads fought the neighborhood for me) - yea...that man poked the bear
She was a murder in the making. She had a goal of killing men. Please do not excuse any of this otherwise its more than likely you're a femcel like she was.
Thanks for bringing us this intriguing story Mama Lazy! I would hope regardless of the outcome, SA is taken a bit more seriously, bullying, and mental health. These are all global issues that this story pulls together in the most bizarre, neat little package!
I mean it’s hard to feel bad for Hiroshi like he should’ve been in jail and punished along time ago.
While Runa, even tho I don’t agree with what she and her family did, she needed help and treatment. Sadly her parents didn’t seem to or think she needed that. Although to be fair if they’re mentally ill as well it wouldn’t be possible to take care of her much less themselves.
WOW! There are no innocent parties in this one...😳
This is a strange one that can't be debated, as to "who did what/which side was justified?" I can't say Runa clearly has problems that are running deeper than just some guy catfishing her, I mean she practiced killing him with a cat for gods sake. And Hiroshi honestly had some comeuppance coming as he broke his agreement with Runa, and her parents after he had creeped on her under the pretenses she'd not take this to the authorities, so him setting up a third date was asking for trouble. I don't know I'd honestly blame the justice system/Runa's parents, the law should of been stricter with Hiroshi when he started sexually assaulting women and peeping in public, whereas when Runa nearly stabbed her classmate and threatened to kill him next her parents should of gotten involved and explained she can't do that stuff, or worse case scenario let her see an anger management therapist.
I can't help but wonder if this woman is a psychopath and her dad didn't care while the mother was simply too stupid to notice.
Did you watch the video? He literally said she had an ASPD evaluation and they knew
@@Romapolitan The father did, but the mother comes across like a dunce in this video.
She was a misandrist to the point of hating m3n she killed one.
@@Rocky13Ray misandry is a response to misogyny , and is not on the same level as misogny . i wouldnt call her a misandrist , more like mentally ill and extremely angry about being taken advantage of . definitely not the same thing
holy crap this is one of the most sexist comments ive seen in months @@finndarling
Sometimes I watch these before I go out in the world. Makes me more aware
Yeah watch out for trans people and psychotic Japanese women
First, that is ONE MESSED UP FAMILY!!!! I can't even imagine a whole family (unless they are a crime family) working together on murdering someone like it's just another family activity. NO ONE in that group did anything good. My God!! 😱😱😱
But also, I have to wonder what would have happened if I had stayed in Japan. I get that there is bullying everywhere, but it seems like it's much more accepted in Japan. I was picked on constantly in the first and second grades (I left for the U.S. when I was in the second grade), though my at-the-time-mostly-absentee mom, once she learned that I walked (quite a long ways) to her and my to-be-stepdad's shack-up house rather than go home to my grandmothers, because I was being followed by one of the bullies, actually did something - she went to the boy's house and gave a pretty good reprimand to his parents, after which the boy stopped bullying me and started being super fake-nice. But my mom didn't know the extent of the bullying - it involved most of the class. My mom thought it was just the one boy. I was constantly sick, thinking back, probably due to continuous stress at school. All because I had vision problems and wore very thick glasses.
I actually DID have a lot of friends in my immediate neighborhood - people I grew up with, teenagers and older kids who were my mentors, younger kids who were almost like siblings, even a little boyfriend when I was about 4 or 5. But at school, it was a whole different story.
In Japan, they seem less tolerant of those that are "different," perhaps more so in smaller towns and cities, like where I lived as a little kid.
When I got to the U.S. sure, there were a few bullies, but most were very accepting, even though I was a foreigner with very limited English skills, and still wore my horrible thick glasses. I made friends, and even though we moved quite a lot since my dad (OK, step-dad) was in the Navy, I still managed to have much more peace than in Japan. In fact, I didn't get sick nearly as often (just the usual childhood colds and such). Maybe it was just the climate, but I think my mental state has SOMETHING to do with it.
Would I have made friends and become more social later in school? Would I have become withdrawn? Would I have just figured out a way to cope? Would kids have been more accepting as we got older? I don't know. I don't think I would have become a sociopath but I do notice that I have vengeful thoughts, and do get very angry at what I perceive to be injustice or bullying behavior. I don't act on it, I certainly wouldn't KILL anyone, but it's definitely there. Probably no correlation, but interesting to think about.
20:28 those costumes are those of Peter Gabriel, Genesis’ original singer before Phil Collins.
I swear to God I was just thinking about Lazy and how another video would hit the spot, THANK YOU Lazy and merry Christmas to me
What the hell? How is there any question this was wrong? He should be in jail and the killing shouldn’t have happened. Not even bringing up the argument that self justice is not a appropriate way to deal with stuff (especially before even contacting any authorities) is disgusting.
And Japan still won't get their act together and protect women from S.A., regardless of whether or not this was a revenge killing.
No part of the world does,mine didn't even serve a day in jail,and yet I'm still paying for being held down and violated over a decade later mentally. To assume a patriarchal society with rapists and paedophiles in power everywhere would ever punish predators is a lovely thought but it'd never happen
Lazy! I’ve been watching you for about 6 years, especially when I’m cooking, listening to you makes me feel as if I have company around me
People saying they don't feel sympathy for either party when the guy's crimes where sexually assaulting and watching woman without their consent and the girls crimes were being annoying and spoiled and murdering a predator... Not saying either of them are in the right but one of these is not like the other
No man she literally committed premeditated murder. She's a predator too.
@@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8 yes she did murder him, after he took advantage of her (possibly rape as stated in the video 10:38 ) and predated her
@@hdfwk4wjj69wjvi8no she's not,she's just someone who ended an ongoing issue,she's thoroughly justified here.
She decapitated the guy and a cat, but hey. HIS CRIMES ARE WORSE RIGHT?
I think you miss the part where the claims of the guy graping her are based on online comments, not based on any findings in the case at all.
we literally have no idea if he assaulted her or not.
it seems to me that the dad and daughter actively were looking to kill someone, hence why the dad even came to the club to scout this guy out.
Dire Trip did a video on this case. I have a hard time feeling bad for the guy. People usually do this when they feel as though justice can't happen any other way. Wanting to dress up is one thing but fooling people and then taking advantage in irreparable harm is another. I'm interested to hear what else comes out. It sounded like he had done this to a few women.
I agree.
Killing should never be considered “justice”
@@fienderman7563 then what about the death sentence.
@@kimitokki7171Jacob Gellar made some excellent points in his essay on the subject. It's very much not a simple "for or against" subject, but it's easy to feel driven by a sense of justice when it's really an emotional reaction - not excluding myself in that, fwiw. And it gets ever more complicated the more you learn about the history, methods, mistakes (Myles Power on the N/\zi who tried to fight him on false "proof" from bots stolen from C camps - same H denier who lied his way into designing dozens of US gas chambers despite having NO qualifications)... and DNA exonerations. Really, I hope you will peer into it more.
@@kimitokki7171i dont support the death sentence either
I'm curious about what he thought was going to happen when the women he was lying to found out he was a man. Did he think he was going to magically win them over with his irresistible charm?
thank you for another video papa lazy.hope you and Mrs masquerade are keeping warm
It's even worse because her dad was a shrink. I mean, if even your shrink is nutty as a fruitcake... damn. The hoarding too.
I like to think my therapist has their shit more together than me. Otherwise, what's the point?!
I don't get it.
An older man dresses up as a lesbian woman to court ladies.
That I don't get. Because, best case scenario for him, he hooks up with a lesbian.
Then what? I mean, it's not like she's gonna go all "Oh well, I've gone this far, might as well." when she finds out he's a man.
Womp womp. Glad she got him.
I personally really appreciate how you emphasize the distinction of him not being trans or having a differing gender identity. I have seen this case used to validify harmful stereotypes of trans people, not understanding that this was not the case. Your effort to portray cases in a neutral light and only give facts makes me really appreciate your content.
The "fellow" lesbian comment was genius.
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@AntheanCeilliers ironically he missed the point completely here and let his questionable attitudes towards women loose.....
The dad probably a psychopath/sociopath too 😬
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Looks like Runa was bullied to the point she flipped, kinda looks that not just her peers in school feared her, looks like her parents might fear her as well and that's why they complied...
Iroshi had a reputation to mantain, mild manered and well respected, however, he was actually a pervert who catfished young women to get advantage of them...
Runa's father asked him to leave her alone... And still, he just couldn't let her go... He was not a good person and maybe the reaction was extreme, however, whatever is the case, I feel no simpaty or pitty for him...
I agree, obviously she shouldn't have killed him but he was definitely NOT a good person. He should have been in jail instead of being free to be a creep and use his "female persona" to look less dangerous. If his predatory behavior had been taken more seriously he wouldn't have died for sure...
Found out about studies suggesting victims of long-term bullying are more likely to have emotional and psychological problems then with just S.A. We have legal abuse that is similar if not worse then an illegal one. And we ain't doing shit about it.
I feel zero sympathy when men are bullied and then snap. See how crazy that sounds? Doesn't it? Okay.
@@Sry342 exactly. If he had left her alone, he would be alive rn.
I don't feel bad for men who abuse women and then get taken down by one of thier victims.
@@iAmNothingnessdoesn't sound crazy actually that sounds very normal and sane, if someone does something violent like that i will dislike them no matter the gender
Dark, rainy and cold where I am. Perfect time for a new Lazy video
*6:24** you knew the “secret” right away… that’s a dude*
This story is mind blowing! Please keep us updated lazy
She became a lot less sympathetic after she cut off his head, took it home, and spent weeks playing with it.
my favourite channel to watch when it comes to stories from japan because i don't have to cringe at japanese names and words being butchered by an english accent, your pronunciation is brutal. ❣
Hey lazy! I really love the lazy plushies, they sold out so fast that time.
I’m sure many of your viewers would like another chance to buy one! ❤
Appreciate all your video, however your passion and respect for Japanese culture really shines.
Thanks Lazy.
It helps that he’s married to a Japanese woman, which makes him know more about Japanese culture and be more respectful to it.
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I've been hooked on your channel for months. Good work dude!
I’m sorry, I must’ve misheard you, did you say that her parents helped her film herself playing around with the dude’s disembodied head?!?!
*OH HELL NO!!!!*
I can relate to her chasing after a bully with a boxcutter, but her catfish hunt was a bit of an overkill...
Was it tho? He'd lied, forced himself on her & he'd done the same to several other women! He wouldn't have stopped. Had he not been a nasty man, he'd still have his head.
@@HeyIwasaValedictorian we can't say for sure if he forced himself on her. From other reports he appeared to be mostly a liar and creep...
@@edi9892doesn't matter if he forced himself on HER,he's a multi-offending rapist,she just did what all of us wish we could and now he can't do it again.
Rumors again. Nice emotionally charged response. @@missvoorhees7964
@@missvoorhees7964 Was I yesterday too tired so that I overheard that one? I can't remember hearing that he R-ed her...
I can fix her...
I love when you do stories from Japan! Great video! I think the whole family is a little bit unstable. Keep us updated.💕💕💕
He was dressing as a woman as a manipulation tactic. The same way that certain men drive expensive cars it's all comes down to manipulation.
In Runa and her father's case, the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
I feel like her father suffered from mental illness himself, especially since he helped her to plan and carry out the m*rder.
Her mother may have thought that the two would drive around for a while and not go through with it, but she is just as culpable as they are for his m*rder, regardless.
Let's face it, he was no angel, far from it, actually.
I feel like he was taking advantage of young women on dating sites by pretending that he was a lesbian.
One would think that, if he was drugging and assaulting them, someone would have come forward about it happening to them during the publicity in the aftermath of his m*rder.
The entire situation is incredibly disturbing.
Personally, I feel like she was mentally ill as a child and her odd behavior because of it is why she was bullied and made fun of and, of course, the bullying and teasing caused her mental illness to become more pronounced.
Then, the years of isolation, being protected by her parents, etc., escalated until she stalked and m*rders this man.
It truly appears that her father was fully involved with the m*rder from the beginning since he was at the disco on their first "date" and watched from a distance.
Who knows?
It's incredibly frightening to think about people like any one of them being out there, isn't it?
Good thing I'm already on my bed, perfect watch before bedtime 😅
Came here after watching this case by Stephanie Soo. Needless to say, only now the case makes sense. You explained everything so clearly
its 1:33 AM im about to sleep
looks like i'll be sleeping at 1:55 AM instead.
That's so interesting. It is 3:10pm where I am.
Her dad was called Awsome-o?
Amazing.
Thanks so much for this extremely fresh case! Thanks to Mrs. Lazy as well. Wow, this was a big one. From the info here, my hot take is 2-fold:
On the one hand, the female part of me says that Runa and her father DID warn Hiroshi and he effed around and found out. If more women were able to be proactive in their own abuse cases there would be far less abuse.
The much larger remaining (not influenced by gender) part of me says NO NO NO NO NO none of this is okay! This is not a healthy family! This is not something father and daughter are meant to bond over. There has got to be far more going on behind the family scenes if they're willing to push to such extreme boundaries. I'm just glad Mr. Tamura is not my psychologist, or my father. The strangeness of this family goes beyond cultural borders.
If there is truth to Hiroshi's past he should not have been on the streets in the first place, as a matter of public safety. Hearing of the web he entangled unsuspecting women in to do them harm has stripped away a lot of the concern I may have had for his well-being. He reminds me of Joji Obara. But who knows? We may find out more information and I will eat my words. Otherwise, I'm glad he's not my father either.
She was a complete nutcase in the making. It more than likely could have been any male she murdered. She had deep hatred towards men and professed it online.
Always love your stories!! Thanx Lazy!!
You know you're sheltered and blind when you're fooled that easily by what is obviously a man in a dress.
Made it here within an hour of posting hell yeah! Thanks for the new video lazy, hope you’re well 🎉
This is clearly a scummy person who ran into a serial killer in training. The dude was a terrible person, but basically everything said about him is heresay and she clearly planned it out and apparently japan has awful laws about sex crimes or just doesnt enforce them. So i dont know where i stand, but this girl was probably going to kill someone eventually no matter what.
Most logical comment here. I can't believe how many people excused her of "she just got bullied " or the fact that there are sympathizers of hatred of men.
@@humble2246 Simps and neckbeards suffering from Yellow Fever. They'll take any Asian woman they can get their hands on, and oftentimes prefer the "broken" ones so they can fulfill their savior complex. Life is an anime to these people, after all.
Or it's just a simple case of "no woman can do wrong" syndrome. People like to think women have to be pushed into something drastic, though if a man suffered the exact same injustices, anything he does as a result is his own fault.
Fun, isn't it?
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To be honest, I think that Runa had enough of a motive to kill. In this case Hiroshi was in a way the unfortunate "victim" of Runa's deep seeded anger. She hated men due to her bullying and she would pretty much bottle up that anger. So when Hiroshi came and lied to her, it was just the perfect excuse for her to kill. She showed it when she chased her classmate with a box cutter and then threatened him afterwards. Of course in a way its sad that she had to endure the bullying but its also one of the main reasons why she ended up doing what she did in the future. Her parents also didn't help at the fact that they pretty much bend over backwards for Runa. Its understandable that they cared for her and wanted the best, but giving all the power to your children and having them boss you around is not they way to go. If her father was a psychatrist, then she should've spoken to her and tried to get to the bottom of it. Hiroshi also wasn't a saint too, because he too was part of cheating. Just that he met the wrong person to do said catfishing and overall was just taking advantage of women too. Sooner or later it was going to catch up with him too.
I really liked this story..it's a breath of fresh air to hear what happens in other places..I hope you'll continue to bring us stories from every walk of life.
Took him out like he was takeaway. Runa is either a quick study, or has done this before.