3 phase 440 volt will do the job properly and may even cook the raccoon from medium to medium well. It just depends upon the size of the animule. Hossenfeffer is a very delightful delicacy
Okay, I own a 10-acre farm and I have electric fence around the whole thing....I have experience with this! First, you need MORE electric wiring! The first wire should be about 1.5-inches above the ground, the next about 2 inches above that, the next 2 inches and again until you reach about 20-inches high, then you can go to 3-inches apart. So yes, you need to use so much wire that they can't jump through the wiring. I've seen rabbits and squirrels simply run through the fence and if their arms/feet are not touching the ground, the shock will be minimal....so yeah, install so much wiring that the wiring along acts as a baracade! Next, you need to up your game to at least 4,000-volts, preferably higher.....you need some serious voltage to do the job. Anything with a few batteries isn't going to cut it. Next, these things are NOT smart, they just have nothing to do but try to get in. If there's only 1 in 1,000 ways to get in, it's a matter of time before they find it. Cover ALL your bases and leave them no way to get in. Lastly, put a trap outside the wires and either drive the critter FAR away or kill it. At my farm we have chickens and both coyotes and raccoons will kill my livestock so yeah, I kill without mercy any predators that endanger my livestock. More wire, higher wire, more voltage!
WOW, thanks a lot for your detailed response! Interesting, this year I did it actually other way around - I decreased number of wires, in order to increase amperage. That's Ohm's law if I remember correctly from my high school classes :) The less the resistance - the more the amperage. I think I got some great results, my 2021 update is here: ua-cam.com/video/yeFtFXzUK78/v-deo.html For the next year I consider two options: I gonna put "cat scat mats" just outside of the fence, in order to make them stop for a few seconds. That would increase the probablilty to be shoked (my energizer sends an impulse once a second). And yes, I'm thinking about replacing those "standard" batteries with an external battery having higher voltage. Your fence is probably much longer and perhaps connected to the power line, no? I mean I don't think in my case more wires would help, as the amperage would decrease. It works just fine for you because your fence is connected to the power line (I guess)... What do you think? Thank you so much!
Vegetation can short out the fence. Don’t let grass or those trees touch the wires. But a tester for about $20 on Amazon and make sure your getting at least 5000-7000 volts. We can keep bears out with 0.25-9.5 joules but 0.7-1.0 even better. You don’t need a lot of joules fir your set up. But use a good long ground stake. Some folks use bright colored flagging to ensure the animals see the fence and are more likely to touch with their nose to get a stronger shock.
I don't allow grass to touch the wires, I use trimmer to cut the grass underneath the bottom string. For tester and colored flags - very interesting ideas, thank you!! I actually placed few yellow flags (sticky notes), maybe I need more. Thanks! :)
Hi, The flying creatures are just normal Moths, most trail cameras, security cameras are around 12 to 15 frames per second, which makes the Moths look like that, the slower the frame rate the longer they look, You should look into using electric poultry netting, it has small squares that make it nearly impossible for small animals to get through. Have you got a Ground Rod on that Energizer ?, you need to Have a ground rod driven into the ground, usually around 2 to 3 feet, then it is connected to the negative terminal on your energizer, the positive terminal is connected to the fence, you should also invest in an electric fence tester to see if it is working and how many Volts it is putting out. If you do not use an Electric Poultry Net, put more wires closer together and make sure they are really tight so the critters have a harder time pushing through and it will make them have more chance to get shocked. Have Fun :)
Thanks for your response! Electric poultry netting is a great idea perhaps, I should have considered it last year... On the other hand, it's way more expensive than the fence that I bought, especially because energizer is not included in what I saw, and has to be bought separetely. I do have Ground Rod, it's 2 feet deep in the ground. As for flying creatures, I doubt if these are moths... This year I have more recordings, and they are definitely much bigger than the moths. More than that, I have both moths and those creatures in the same fragment, they look very different. I will upload another video soon, with this year's results. I made some improvements, and I think my fence works much better now. Not ideal, but much better for sure. Efficiency is 80%-85% now :)
@@George_K_Canada George many mammals like bear, raccoon, don't like wasabi, mix some very hot horse radish or wasabi sauce into a bait and watch them 'high tail' away from your porch.
@@mauriceupton1474 the problem is... I tried all this stuff, doesn' matter. Not at all, there is too many of them. Our legislation is designed for raccoons removal services! They make money on one raccoon twice-thrice a year! I'm not kidding, I know what I'm talking about!
The AA batteries don't have a lot of power capacity. If you get some D size battery holders on eBay, you can put 8 D cells in series to give you 12V, and they should last much longer.
Get a 9900 Volt 4 or 8 Joule system. Make your bottom wire the life wire and the next one up a ground wire, then life on the 3rd wire, ground on the 4th and end with live at the top wire. The animal needs to touch a live wire AND a ground wire to get shocked. Make sure the live wires are connected together and the ground wires are connected together to your ground spike. Just keep the grass short under the wires. Get a proper plug in unit that fits on the wall and run cables to your fence. The ground spike must be at least 1 meter long copper pin of about 15mm in diameter and it must be hammered into the ground at a wet spot (or use charcoal and water in a hole to ensure a proper earth) The voltage won't kill them but they will feel it.
Thanks! That's what I'm leaning towards, too. I read a lot of comments, thanks everyone! Something is just impossible for me to do due to my lack of knowlege and/or very limited budget for this stuff. But what I can defenitely do is I can try a 12V battery.. And then we'll see. Thanks again!
Thank you! I looked at the site that you suggested. I believe I need DC for my fence... Or it doesn't matter? Also, wouldn't 100V be too much? :) BTW, I subscribet to you, you have nice vids! I liked few.
WOW! Thanks so much, you answered both questions! Will try to use 12V battery next season. And, shame on me, I never knew that "flying squirel" is a real animal. I had to google it, and now I see that you are right, most likely this is it. Interestingly, I've never seen it in daylight... Thanks a lot, and Happy New Year! :)
A few possibilities why they don’t get shocked as expected: 1) After several pulses, the batteries are draining to a very low voltage. 2) The ground path may have a short somewhere or 3) The ground path is too long. Try adding ground rods. Also, in order to improve conductivity, wet the soil a bit. If you know how to measure the voltage, test at different times, and especially after you observe no shock to the animal. It may lead you to realize it’s a battery drain issue as mentioned in 1)
Thanks a lot for your response! As per manufacturer's instructions, the batteries have to be replaced when interval between indicator flashes becomes longer than 4 seconds. It was 1 sec all the time. Do you think I shouldn't rely on those instructions? It is very possible... Next year, I have to buy a voltmeter, I agree with you. How about touching two strings at the same time? Is it possible that in this case there is no potential difference? Another thing is... As you said, I have to wet the ground, which makes me think that interlock close to the stairs may cause the issue. Is interlock a dielectric? I tried to google this question - there is no clear answer. Thanks a lot for your time!
Update-2021 is here: ua-cam.com/video/yeFtFXzUK78/v-deo.html
Best Electroshock Compilation: ua-cam.com/video/msuycUoV8y0/v-deo.html
Raise the voltage
3 phase 440 volt will do the job properly and may even cook the raccoon from medium to medium well. It just depends upon the size of the animule. Hossenfeffer is a very delightful delicacy
Okay, I own a 10-acre farm and I have electric fence around the whole thing....I have experience with this! First, you need MORE electric wiring! The first wire should be about 1.5-inches above the ground, the next about 2 inches above that, the next 2 inches and again until you reach about 20-inches high, then you can go to 3-inches apart. So yes, you need to use so much wire that they can't jump through the wiring. I've seen rabbits and squirrels simply run through the fence and if their arms/feet are not touching the ground, the shock will be minimal....so yeah, install so much wiring that the wiring along acts as a baracade!
Next, you need to up your game to at least 4,000-volts, preferably higher.....you need some serious voltage to do the job. Anything with a few batteries isn't going to cut it.
Next, these things are NOT smart, they just have nothing to do but try to get in. If there's only 1 in 1,000 ways to get in, it's a matter of time before they find it. Cover ALL your bases and leave them no way to get in.
Lastly, put a trap outside the wires and either drive the critter FAR away or kill it. At my farm we have chickens and both coyotes and raccoons will kill my livestock so yeah, I kill without mercy any predators that endanger my livestock.
More wire, higher wire, more voltage!
WOW, thanks a lot for your detailed response! Interesting, this year I did it actually other way around - I decreased number of wires, in order to increase amperage. That's Ohm's law if I remember correctly from my high school classes :) The less the resistance - the more the amperage. I think I got some great results, my 2021 update is here: ua-cam.com/video/yeFtFXzUK78/v-deo.html
For the next year I consider two options: I gonna put "cat scat mats" just outside of the fence, in order to make them stop for a few seconds. That would increase the probablilty to be shoked (my energizer sends an impulse once a second). And yes, I'm thinking about replacing those "standard" batteries with an external battery having higher voltage.
Your fence is probably much longer and perhaps connected to the power line, no? I mean I don't think in my case more wires would help, as the amperage would decrease. It works just fine for you because your fence is connected to the power line (I guess)... What do you think?
Thank you so much!
Here are the best results (but not all) - 1min 20secs: ua-cam.com/video/msuycUoV8y0/v-deo.html
Good video!
Thank you!
Vegetation can short out the fence. Don’t let grass or those trees touch the wires. But a tester for about $20 on Amazon and make sure your getting at least 5000-7000 volts. We can keep bears out with 0.25-9.5 joules but 0.7-1.0 even better. You don’t need a lot of joules fir your set up. But use a good long ground stake. Some folks use bright colored flagging to ensure the animals see the fence and are more likely to touch with their nose to get a stronger shock.
I don't allow grass to touch the wires, I use trimmer to cut the grass underneath the bottom string. For tester and colored flags - very interesting ideas, thank you!! I actually placed few yellow flags (sticky notes), maybe I need more. Thanks! :)
Hi, The flying creatures are just normal Moths, most trail cameras, security cameras are around 12 to 15 frames per second, which makes the Moths look like that, the slower the frame rate the longer they look, You should look into using electric poultry netting, it has small squares that make it nearly impossible for small animals to get through. Have you got a Ground Rod on that Energizer ?, you need to Have a ground rod driven into the ground, usually around 2 to 3 feet, then it is connected to the negative terminal on your energizer, the positive terminal is connected to the fence, you should also invest in an electric fence tester to see if it is working and how many Volts it is putting out. If you do not use an Electric Poultry Net, put more wires closer together and make sure they are really tight so the critters have a harder time pushing through and it will make them have more chance to get shocked. Have Fun :)
Thanks for your response! Electric poultry netting is a great idea perhaps, I should have considered it last year... On the other hand, it's way more expensive than the fence that I bought, especially because energizer is not included in what I saw, and has to be bought separetely. I do have Ground Rod, it's 2 feet deep in the ground. As for flying creatures, I doubt if these are moths... This year I have more recordings, and they are definitely much bigger than the moths. More than that, I have both moths and those creatures in the same fragment, they look very different. I will upload another video soon, with this year's results. I made some improvements, and I think my fence works much better now. Not ideal, but much better for sure. Efficiency is 80%-85% now :)
The Gallagher electric fence unit is made in New Zealand.
Electric fences are a New Zealand invention.
I know, respect! :)
@@George_K_Canada George many mammals like bear, raccoon, don't like wasabi, mix some very hot horse radish or wasabi sauce into a bait and watch them 'high tail' away from your porch.
@@mauriceupton1474 the problem is... I tried all this stuff, doesn' matter. Not at all, there is too many of them. Our legislation is designed for raccoons removal services! They make money on one raccoon twice-thrice a year! I'm not kidding, I know what I'm talking about!
The AA batteries don't have a lot of power capacity. If you get some D size battery holders on eBay, you can put 8 D cells in series to give you 12V, and they should last much longer.
Hey George, give up an update, add it to the above video
Will do soon, I do have an update. Stay tuned! :)
Update is here! Enjoy :) ua-cam.com/video/yeFtFXzUK78/v-deo.html
Get a 9900 Volt 4 or 8 Joule system. Make your bottom wire the life wire and the next one up a ground wire, then life on the 3rd wire, ground on the 4th and end with live at the top wire. The animal needs to touch a live wire AND a ground wire to get shocked. Make sure the live wires are connected together and the ground wires are connected together to your ground spike. Just keep the grass short under the wires. Get a proper plug in unit that fits on the wall and run cables to your fence. The ground spike must be at least 1 meter long copper pin of about 15mm in diameter and it must be hammered into the ground at a wet spot (or use charcoal and water in a hole to ensure a proper earth) The voltage won't kill them but they will feel it.
Thanks a lot!
Flying squirrel I’m sure I’ve had them
Agreed, most likely this is it!
You need at least 12 volts or plug in . They have to much fur for the batterie system your using.
Thanks! That's what I'm leaning towards, too. I read a lot of comments, thanks everyone! Something is just impossible for me to do due to my lack of knowlege and/or very limited budget for this stuff. But what I can defenitely do is I can try a 12V battery.. And then we'll see. Thanks again!
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Did it stop the racoons and gophers coming to your yard?
Get rid of the battery system and get a plug in system.
Thank you! I looked at the site that you suggested. I believe I need DC for my fence... Or it doesn't matter? Also, wouldn't 100V be too much? :)
BTW, I subscribet to you, you have nice vids! I liked few.
@@George_K_Canada Racoons and other forest animals are tough 100v would be o.k.
@@golfandhike5598 got it, thanks!
Crank up the power on your fence, it's too weak now. And that's a flying squirrel
WOW! Thanks so much, you answered both questions! Will try to use 12V battery next season. And, shame on me, I never knew that "flying squirel" is a real animal. I had to google it, and now I see that you are right, most likely this is it. Interestingly, I've never seen it in daylight... Thanks a lot, and Happy New Year! :)
A few possibilities why they don’t get shocked as expected: 1) After several pulses, the batteries are draining to a very low voltage. 2) The ground path may have a short somewhere or 3) The ground path is too long. Try adding ground rods. Also, in order to improve conductivity, wet the soil a bit. If you know how to measure the voltage, test at different times, and especially after you observe no shock to the animal. It may lead you to realize it’s a battery drain issue as mentioned in 1)
Thanks a lot for your response! As per manufacturer's instructions, the batteries have to be replaced when interval between indicator flashes becomes longer than 4 seconds. It was 1 sec all the time. Do you think I shouldn't rely on those instructions? It is very possible... Next year, I have to buy a voltmeter, I agree with you. How about touching two strings at the same time? Is it possible that in this case there is no potential difference? Another thing is... As you said, I have to wet the ground, which makes me think that interlock close to the stairs may cause the issue. Is interlock a dielectric? I tried to google this question - there is no clear answer. Thanks a lot for your time!
you need to make sure your earth stake is in deep and wet
That's what she said
Flying squirrels
Yes, most likely this is it. Thank you! The mistery is resolved now :) I didn't know such animals existed at all!
Really !!!!
@@toddlauer4383 Really .... :) Happy New Year! :)
No
George K for research on flying squirrels, look up the animated series "Rocky and Bullwinkle". Very worthwhile.
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Спасибо!