Doc should have 3-4 but that dude is straight overrated. Ainge was more involved just by putting that squad together than Doc when he "coached" that 08 team. @@WeCanArgue
@@iProvidings who should he have 2 others rings with? I know u not finna say the clippers… the top 3 worst franchises in nba history. I know u not finna say he was suppose to win a ring with them???
JJ Rasheed Wallace Josh Smith and several other players have said this. There is a video of Phil Jackson talmbout saying stuff about Glen coach teams tricking off games.
Pre sure jamal, matt barnes and jj reddick have talked about doc in the last year on some pods. Doc said some bs about that clippers era was never capable of winning a chip, even though obviously during that time he was their coach lmfao
After seeing Korver choke w the cavs n lebron ....i do think JJ woulda hit a few of them shots lol idk Korver never showed up ..but can say same bout JJ so im 55/45 jj side 😂😂
To even say something like the players play and they could’ve made their own adjustments is insane to me. Coaches making bank aren’t even held to standard of doing their jobs. lol
@@podfather6448 well the game isn’t played like a 3 point contest. JJ is better than him at literally everything else. I’ll take JJ, and he was only like a percent lower in threes. Korver was one dimensional…he literally gave you nothing else. So it’s not egregious.
Kyle better than jj as a shooter but not a better player jj better off the ball movement to get open and jj probably would be more clutch because i seen korver missed those shots wide open in finals against warriors if he was the same against them like the rest of the season the cavs could've beat the kd warriors korver kept coming short him and love in the finals choked every time
Nobody is gonna say it kuz theyre all pleyers and players back players but foh doc rivers tried to get 3 straight choke artists to this day get over the hump after the celtics.. Cp3 James harden Joel embiid Doc is not playin when his players showed up he won a chip. He may not be the best but it aint all on him stop cappin And im takin korver jj is annoyin to me lol
Thank you 💯 that team was not that good lol just a few good players imo. They're not better than the team they got rn. I'm not even a clippers fan but I'll take the current ones over the lob city ones personally
@@bbryant9455We all taking the current Clippers because they have Kawhi, but recency bias is messing yall up. Blake and Cp3 were both considered top 15 players at the time. Cp3 was top 5 impact guy. They failed because they choked many times. They were up 3-1 on the Rockets
CP3 is a legit player but... yeah BG and DJ is B+.. its entertaining and got name for it.. then again they dont have elite ELITE player for real really wonder IF CP3 got to play with kobe and probably pau gasol how it would go
@@5at5una yessir.. no debate there.. you see how cp3 was killing in new orleans with Jannero Pargo as a sg & tyson chandler at center ..kobe & gasol would've been straight 🔥🔥🔥
Kyle was a more consistent shooter. JJ was more of an all player..can shoot and play good D!😉 IMO loved when my Cavies had Korver! even though it was towards the end..
@@langstonsparks how much work does a guy who has Paul Pierce, Rondo, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen among others have to do? And if you truly give him credit for winning once with all that talent why didn’t he do it again with the clippers or Phili, no team he’s ever coached has gotten better defensively because of him, ever, they’ve always got worse defensively once he arrived, the only time that wasn’t the case was because they signed Pg and Kawhi and besides that their defense got worse every year after until they got smacked by the nuggets
That's true. He doesn't say of the wall stuff. He is the exact opposite. He is intelligent, and there is much thought in his takes, and he is well spoken. I agree with JJ on this actually. If anything, JJ's problem is his intelligence. While because of it he has a lot of great takes, he speaks as if he can never be wrong with a certain arrogance/ignorance that anyone can be wrong on something. Part of this is he uses the I was a player so I know and you don't perspective heavily. While that is true that doesn't mean you're right on everything. I watch for entertainment as a "normal person" and feel at times his I was a player so I know leads to opinions that I don't find agreeable. As a former athlete, though, I can also appreciate his perspective as the others on the show who never played don't see things the way someone with his perspective does. Definitely a great fit for the show.
I heard someone say this the other day, but I thought it made perfect sense for this situation. Doc Rivers has been held accountable (he’s been fired in every city since winning that ring), but never seems to hold himself accountable for coming up short. I think he’s lost something like 10 straight game 7’s since that championship run, which is just wild. You can deflect some of that blame onto the players, but after 10, you gotta start asking some serious questions about the coaching (or lack thereof).
That eBay ad was hard to watch😂😂
I was thinking the same thing
What was teague doing with his hands??? Lmao
popcorn reading energy
@@fazio24 took me out
I like how the convo goes from Doc taking accountability to something completely off topic
Man y’all couldn’t edit out Teague voice crack in the ad 😂💀
Doc was hired as a consultant for the bucks
Dude has ran that one ring to the ground lmao
But how many coaches have rings rn lil bro?? Lol yall so delusional on here. NOT EVERY COACH WINS A RING
Doc should have 3-4 but that dude is straight overrated. Ainge was more involved just by putting that squad together than Doc when he "coached" that 08 team. @@WeCanArgue
@@iProvidings who should he have 2 others rings with? I know u not finna say the clippers… the top 3 worst franchises in nba history. I know u not finna say he was suppose to win a ring with them???
@@WeCanArgue how many coaches have coached teams of the caliber doc got handed to him, boy?
Low-key, JJ's most productive were in Philly
JJ Rasheed Wallace Josh Smith and several other players have said this. There is a video of Phil Jackson talmbout saying stuff about Glen coach teams tricking off games.
Nah y’all ain’t slick I caught that trench coat bar 💀
every single playoff team would have benefited a ton from jj reddick being on their rosters during those years that he was with the clippers
Apparently Doc Rivers was a Milwaukee Bucks consultant… so I think he was scheming for that job.
He didn't have his best years with Doc his best years was with Bret brown
We need a Teague story about CP3 snitching on KAT about his jersey to take it to OT😂😂😂😂
Kyle took less shots per game, that's why the percentage is skewed that way. JJ Reddick was better in my opinion.
Korver>JJ
Pre sure jamal, matt barnes and jj reddick have talked about doc in the last year on some pods.
Doc said some bs about that clippers era was never capable of winning a chip, even though obviously during that time he was their coach lmfao
Kyle def the better pure shooter but JJ the better overall Player.
Korver height help him a lot in that convo
Kyle Korver was a WAY more productive player than JJ Redick ..... talking about NBA not college ... Korver was wanted by many different teams
This dude is ridiculous for saying JJ is a better shooter than Kyle Korver. Kyle could shoot that thing like crazy.
That ad was rough 😂
Doc fasho been riding that one ring but at the end of the day it is the players playing on the court so man up go get a win lol
I read in an article somewhere that Doc was a consultant with the Bucks before getting that job. Dude was lurking in the shadows 😂
watch gilbert arenas podcast talking about that issue. Doc is a Snake
@@peterlee6304facts Gil told it all😂
Lurking in the same shade he was theowing
🧢 the man was hired to be a consultant 🤷🏾♂️ what tf Doc supposed to do?? Say no
He stay stealing jobs smh
JJ Reddick went to the right college and had the right connections he so overrated
Korver us better catch and shoot but JJ was better moving shots by a mile. I'm taking JJ
JJ is cool, but I’m taking the 3 point specialists Korver over him. Any day.
Doc be gone in under 2 years ! I’m taking all bets
JJ is a sniper
Kyle not better than jj
Yall podcast under volume too? Colin got all the small black good podcasts. I don’t like it
After seeing Korver choke w the cavs n lebron ....i do think JJ woulda hit a few of them shots lol idk Korver never showed up ..but can say same bout JJ so im 55/45 jj side 😂😂
That intro was horrible. They need hooked on phonics
To even say something like the players play and they could’ve made their own adjustments is insane to me. Coaches making bank aren’t even held to standard of doing their jobs. lol
What is JJ held to. He was a scrub and defensive liability
ebay givnig ole boy the first crack at every size 11 pair of black forces because of this deal
I’m never taking Korver over JJ for anything lol
You sound dumb
You sound dumb
That’s not egregious, Kyle was an elite shooter.. actually has a higher 3PT % and more 3s than JJ
@@podfather6448 well the game isn’t played like a 3 point contest. JJ is better than him at literally everything else. I’ll take JJ, and he was only like a percent lower in threes. Korver was one dimensional…he literally gave you nothing else. So it’s not egregious.
@@NewEraNoahwhat 😂😂😂 what exactly is JJ better at
Theres hating, and telling the truth. JJ was telling the truth. He played for him! He knows just as well as others, but he got no problem saying it!
Once Doc said he knew the clippers had NOO chance to win … all those clippers players changed their tune .. Doc need to learn when to be quiet lol
Ashton Kutcher over JJ 😂, but i feel JJ is right about doc over rated coach
“Doc gave him an opportunity”
Just tell me you did NO research
Kyle better than jj as a shooter but not a better player jj better off the ball movement to get open and jj probably would be more clutch because i seen korver missed those shots wide open in finals against warriors if he was the same against them like the rest of the season the cavs could've beat the kd warriors korver kept coming short him and love in the finals choked every time
Mad respect for Teague backing kyle 💪💪
Trench coat shout out to the white shooters LOL omg thats to funny.
Jeff passing out excuses like Doc Rivers😂😂😂
JJ don't get hot like kyle
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Trench coat is crazy 😂
Jj way more clutch
No, he is not just a better defender
“Put yo glasses back on”
This the typical Social Media response by blaming Doc Rivers. Follow the Leader 🤦🏾♂️
Trenchcoat shout out to my white shooters 🔥👀🔥
“Kyle was taller” bro he shot 3’s. He wasn’t no rebounder
Nobody is gonna say it kuz theyre all pleyers and players back players but foh doc rivers tried to get 3 straight choke artists to this day get over the hump after the celtics..
Cp3
James harden
Joel embiid
Doc is not playin when his players showed up he won a chip. He may not be the best but it aint all on him stop cappin
And im takin korver jj is annoyin to me lol
He was consultant for the team
If I am eBay, I’m not paying y'all for this ad read 😂
Kyle Korver definitely top 5 he was shooting from everywhere from Chicago to Atl. I done seen Kyle hit the most bizarre game winner threes.
Lmao why yall sound like the kid with the finger under each word when they have to read out loud 😂😂
jj is reddick is not better than kyle korver...stop it
KYLE KORVER fasho a better shooter than JJ !!! Top 5 shooter all time !!!
Lob City had a lot of B+ talent, they needed at least one certified bucket and they would have done better IMO
Bigg facts..bigg facts 💯 & the worse starter was jj.. dude was the weakest link!!
Thank you 💯 that team was not that good lol just a few good players imo. They're not better than the team they got rn. I'm not even a clippers fan but I'll take the current ones over the lob city ones personally
@@bbryant9455We all taking the current Clippers because they have Kawhi, but recency bias is messing yall up. Blake and Cp3 were both considered top 15 players at the time. Cp3 was top 5 impact guy. They failed because they choked many times. They were up 3-1 on the Rockets
CP3 is a legit player but... yeah BG and DJ is B+..
its entertaining and got name for it.. then again they dont have elite ELITE player for real
really wonder IF CP3 got to play with kobe and probably pau gasol how it would go
@@5at5una yessir.. no debate there.. you see how cp3 was killing in new orleans with Jannero Pargo as a sg & tyson chandler at center ..kobe & gasol would've been straight 🔥🔥🔥
Kyle> JJ at his peak. JJ> Kyle career
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its actually the opposite. Reddick was averaging 18ppg at his peak. Korver has the all star game and longer career though.
@@Shortballa11Only meant as a shooter.
@@Eightohh4tosevenfive7JJs 18ppg was all from shooting lol
JJ was too short and that was one of the reasons Lob City couldnt get it done.
Cap
Kyle Korver slander was crazy
Kyle was a more consistent shooter. JJ was more of an all player..can shoot and play good D!😉 IMO loved when my Cavies had Korver! even though it was towards the end..
😂😂 you guys ad ...suckssss...u guys sounds sleepy asf
based off pure shooting , gimme KK
JJ over Korver all day
JJ never lived up to his potential
Kyle korver jj redick or Mike miller 👀
I'm definitely taking kyle korver over jj reddick as a shooter you shitting me?
kyle the better shooter jj was a bucket at duke and had to play the shooter role in the league
KORVER WORST NBA ALL STAR OF THE MODERN ERA HANDS DOWN
Im sure I could find a worse one. Vanvleet, Andrew Wiggins starting in the all star game.
@@Shortballa11 VanVleet and Wiggins cooks Korver
Korver all the way!! he was pulling some crazy
korver was miles better than jj, just watch them play, korver can at least cover space, jj you need to hide him on defense big time
Teague entire career is a let down. Kobe wanted to Play with this bum but him being Scared shitless about that speaks volumes.
Y’all gotta stop, JJ 2 years in Philly were better than the 4 in LA.
EBay must have paid them $5 in quarters cuz that promo drop was horrible😂😂😂😂
that's what I was thinking... and I ain't ever seen a damn ebay read before 😂
That’s about the amount of effort they give to every promo.
Kyle is definitely a better shooter than jj reddick
korver all day!
I don’t think any coach has underperformed more with such an embarrassment of talent on one team so many different times
Yeah word is fully out on Doc he’s maybe the most fugaze still in the league getting good looks
@@tobia.1281let’s not rush to that yet Monty Williams may still get a job with a contender and challenge Doc for that title😂
He got us a ring…..
that $80m means monty aint going nowhere for a while lmaoo@@TheSuavest
@@langstonsparks how much work does a guy who has Paul Pierce, Rondo, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Allen among others have to do? And if you truly give him credit for winning once with all that talent why didn’t he do it again with the clippers or Phili, no team he’s ever coached has gotten better defensively because of him, ever, they’ve always got worse defensively once he arrived, the only time that wasn’t the case was because they signed Pg and Kawhi and besides that their defense got worse every year after until they got smacked by the nuggets
“Trench coat. Shoutout to the white shooters” my favorite line so far this year!! I rewinded way too many times!!😂
What does it mean?
@@samklabbers7116white kids shooting up schools wore trench coats..
@@samklabbers7116Columbine school shooters wore them. It’s why if a young white teen has a trench coat on he is called a school shooter.
@@samklabbers7116 A Columbine reference.
I came to the comments just to see did nigga's appreciate that reference!!! that line was fire!!!😂
TRENCH COAT SHOUT OUT TO THE WHITE SHOOTERS IS CRAZY🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:28 is the quote you’re looking for
Kyle Korver ain’t guarding anyone’s grandpa on the court!
Kyle Korver was different fam.
Dude with the glasses doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about
Kyle Korver is wayy better than jj
Nah y’all seen what JJ did in Philly
I must say for JJ to say that about his own coach speaks volumes because JJ isn’t a hot head that just says off the wall stuff.
That's true. He doesn't say of the wall stuff. He is the exact opposite. He is intelligent, and there is much thought in his takes, and he is well spoken. I agree with JJ on this actually.
If anything, JJ's problem is his intelligence. While because of it he has a lot of great takes, he speaks as if he can never be wrong with a certain arrogance/ignorance that anyone can be wrong on something. Part of this is he uses the I was a player so I know and you don't perspective heavily.
While that is true that doesn't mean you're right on everything. I watch for entertainment as a "normal person" and feel at times his I was a player so I know leads to opinions that I don't find agreeable.
As a former athlete, though, I can also appreciate his perspective as the others on the show who never played don't see things the way someone with his perspective does.
Definitely a great fit for the show.
He's definitely a hot head.
@@the2ndamendment I mean he's still a Dukie
Bro said he taking the better percentage. He must be taking korver over Steph too
Treach coat😂 out of pocket fam.
Trench coat, shout out to the white shooters" is sooooo dirty 😂😂😂
yooooooooooooooooooo
JJ had his best years in philly he was averaging like 17-18 ppg
People sleep on JJ I swear man, Prime JJ is starting on like 90% of teams today he was ahead of his time just like Gil
JJ was a god damn scrub
Kyle Korver and Wally Sc
Was over that bum
Trenchcoat is wild lmao. I'm using it from now on
Trenchcoat
😮💨
Kover been my favorite white shooter since he was a 76ers
Kyle way better than JJ/ Kyle had to get his shot out the mud n he was splashing
That clippers team was injury loaded. It was only one healthy year tbh
We gave Korver the last shot (IYKYK). He missed. Give me JJ
I heard someone say this the other day, but I thought it made perfect sense for this situation. Doc Rivers has been held accountable (he’s been fired in every city since winning that ring), but never seems to hold himself accountable for coming up short. I think he’s lost something like 10 straight game 7’s since that championship run, which is just wild. You can deflect some of that blame onto the players, but after 10, you gotta start asking some serious questions about the coaching (or lack thereof).
Holding him accountable would be to not hire him again honestly.
The biggest tell is that his son is the only person who was defending the hire.
Ya’ll may have the worst product reads in the game. 😄
JJ over korver