I studied Agroforestry in the 90s, after years working in this field, how hum, in this farm forest, I am more than willing to listen to your perspectives. You sound like a clever chap who has something to say for himself. A motto I follow is to argue with vigour hoping to be proven wrong, for that way I might learn something new.
Best thing on YT - I love this series and you do not need to be worried about the low view count, it takes time. I want more from that Stapleton book. Although a tangent, I would like to know about the Youth Hostel movement too, this deserves explanation. I was a student at Aberystwyth and I had friends at the agricultural college. There were quite a few research things in the area. I never knew why, so thanks for telling me! Agricultural colleges deserve to be on the series too, in Cirencester there is one that educates people from all over the former empire. The history of agricultural colleges and why they are needed deserves an episode. As mentioned, I love this series, it is brilliant.
Agricultural education (and how integrated it is with conventional universities) is really interesting - we'll definitely cover it! Thanks for your comment
I suspect you're drawing to a very salient conclusion, it'll be interesting to watch the entire series unfold when you've reached the end! UA-cam frequently recommends some rubbish, but I'm quite glad it sent your channel my way. Enjoy your Sunday :)
I have absolutely no idea why UA-cam recommended this, but very glad it did. The undermechanised faults of Soviet agriculture is often commented on, I hadn't realised how peculiarly primitive and under developed the UK was at the same time and how much postwar poverty and scarcity led to change.
@@jamesthomas4841 super interesting point but totally irrelevant. The point of the video was that Britain largely resorted to importing food, neglecting their own farming industry and community. Did you watch the video or you're just incapable of not whining about communism at every available opportunity?
@LudvigIndestrucable No you mentioned Soviet farming before me. Britain in fact had a more mechanised agriculture than anywhere outside the USA in 1939. However it also true that horse power still dominated on British farms. The depression in Agriculture made most British farmers cautious about new methods.
@@jamesthomas4841 yes, I brought up soviet farming practices. In the same way that this channel mentioned Nazi farming doctrine without feeling it necessary to add that lady Balfour wasn't intending to gas the Jews.
@LudvigIndestrucable Soviet Farming practice lead to death on a vast scale. I don't think that should be ignored. Lady Balfour was not a policy maker just a fringe figure.
Fantastic corrective to the completely urban bias of both the planning mentality at the heart of modernity and the historical imagination. I am pushing you hard on twitter! Keep up the great work.
Brilliant. Its intersting how much of this thought should be considered today as we see poorly desinged large developments gogin up. It seems that we are experiencing the natural progression of admistriaghtor with no real experience or understanding of rural matters making desions. There is an idea of a two types of rural living, a the Farmer and the hunter welly wearing red trouser weekend hedge fund manager. The devisive picture is good for people stiring up contemp but not representative and helps foster a lack of understanding resulting in a further pushing out of rural culture in England. I am not fully explaing myself here but its hard to condence into a paragraph. Its interesting you speak honestly about the cost of modernising farming as my father stoped milking when daily collections were stoped at the end of the 70s. This has been a continued trend as farms are required to become larger and larger. What I fear is that farms will soon only be in the hands of corporations and farmer will only be employees. This will result in a very diffrent farming attitude and massive food inflation (alough I admit some food inflation is required now to make farming viable I fear if we do not have this small increase now once farming becomes managed from the board room there will be much greater food inflation).
@@dwwolf4636 meat doesn't store great before freezers and canning, so that might have been part of it. I'm assuming "productivity" means there was a profit differential per acre
The government should be more honest in the fact that they have little control over their countries, nor the knowledge of how their decisions influences either. With this should be a cutting back of policies and regulations, and a dramatic reduction in taxes.
Anyone rooted in farming will look to Nature. For those that are not creation is a 6 day wonder by God so land is not a living breathing thing worshiped of itself, but a made thing of dirt plus inputs equals outputs, and that equates to the public view of farmers as menial unskilled tribesmen unsuited for the modern world.
You can't have Urban with Rural it doesn't work, it's a pure idea of Modernity and we can see the failure today. It's a problem as old as time, it's also known as the Apollonian Vs Dionysian, Apollonian is the Rural and Dionysian is the Urban.
Can you imagine a modern government saying they want a beautiful country?
The idea is utterly antithetical to modern politics.
They do, and they insist that what we see around us is beautiful. Jarring.
though a city boy i find this fascinating.
Really valuable content. Thank you.
Hi, I'm from Germany. This is universally interesting and I enjoyed your video to the max!
I am from Portugal and I fully agree with you.
I studied Agroforestry in the 90s, after years working in this field, how hum, in this farm forest, I am more than willing to listen to your perspectives. You sound like a clever chap who has something to say for himself.
A motto I follow is to argue with vigour hoping to be proven wrong, for that way I might learn something new.
You must put an incredible amount of work into these episodes!
It was the dame in Ireland, at that time hand to mouth farming, food for work to feed the families
Best thing on YT - I love this series and you do not need to be worried about the low view count, it takes time. I want more from that Stapleton book.
Although a tangent, I would like to know about the Youth Hostel movement too, this deserves explanation.
I was a student at Aberystwyth and I had friends at the agricultural college. There were quite a few research things in the area. I never knew why, so thanks for telling me!
Agricultural colleges deserve to be on the series too, in Cirencester there is one that educates people from all over the former empire. The history of agricultural colleges and why they are needed deserves an episode.
As mentioned, I love this series, it is brilliant.
Agricultural education (and how integrated it is with conventional universities) is really interesting - we'll definitely cover it! Thanks for your comment
I suspect you're drawing to a very salient conclusion, it'll be interesting to watch the entire series unfold when you've reached the end!
UA-cam frequently recommends some rubbish, but I'm quite glad it sent your channel my way. Enjoy your Sunday :)
wow subscribed!! great content.
I have absolutely no idea why UA-cam recommended this, but very glad it did.
The undermechanised faults of Soviet agriculture is often commented on, I hadn't realised how peculiarly primitive and under developed the UK was at the same time and how much postwar poverty and scarcity led to change.
People were not starving to death on British farms in the thirties which is a lot more you can say for the Soviet Union.
@@jamesthomas4841 super interesting point but totally irrelevant.
The point of the video was that Britain largely resorted to importing food, neglecting their own farming industry and community.
Did you watch the video or you're just incapable of not whining about communism at every available opportunity?
@LudvigIndestrucable
No you mentioned Soviet farming before me.
Britain in fact had a more mechanised agriculture than anywhere outside the USA in 1939.
However it also true that horse power still dominated on British farms. The depression in Agriculture made most British farmers cautious about new methods.
@@jamesthomas4841 yes, I brought up soviet farming practices. In the same way that this channel mentioned Nazi farming doctrine without feeling it necessary to add that lady Balfour wasn't intending to gas the Jews.
@LudvigIndestrucable
Soviet Farming practice lead to death on a vast scale. I don't think that should be ignored. Lady Balfour was not a policy maker just a fringe figure.
Fantastic corrective to the completely urban bias of both the planning mentality at the heart of modernity and the historical imagination. I am pushing you hard on twitter! Keep up the great work.
Very much appreciated, as ever!
Brilliant. Its intersting how much of this thought should be considered today as we see poorly desinged large developments gogin up.
It seems that we are experiencing the natural progression of admistriaghtor with no real experience or understanding of rural matters making desions. There is an idea of a two types of rural living, a the Farmer and the hunter welly wearing red trouser weekend hedge fund manager. The devisive picture is good for people stiring up contemp but not representative and helps foster a lack of understanding resulting in a further pushing out of rural culture in England. I am not fully explaing myself here but its hard to condence into a paragraph.
Its interesting you speak honestly about the cost of modernising farming as my father stoped milking when daily collections were stoped at the end of the 70s. This has been a continued trend as farms are required to become larger and larger. What I fear is that farms will soon only be in the hands of corporations and farmer will only be employees. This will result in a very diffrent farming attitude and massive food inflation (alough I admit some food inflation is required now to make farming viable I fear if we do not have this small increase now once farming becomes managed from the board room there will be much greater food inflation).
I hope the UA-cam algorithms begin to favour this channel more
Great hair. Great video!
Subscribed!
Something else: I thought the name and face were familiar, and indeed they were. He was the uncle of the early science fiction writer Olaf Stapledon.
Only real one left on youtube for real for real
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Have a look at Jonathan Meades’ work.
Philip Conford's too. The line I always remember from Meades' is "It's easy to mock, but that's no reason not to!"
This is good
I am somewhat surprised grazing animals was so much less productive than growing grains
Yeah. No.
That thinking is why we are obese now.
@@dwwolf4636 meat doesn't store great before freezers and canning, so that might have been part of it. I'm assuming "productivity" means there was a profit differential per acre
The government should be more honest in the fact that they have little control over their countries, nor the knowledge of how their decisions influences either. With this should be a cutting back of policies and regulations, and a dramatic reduction in taxes.
The main product of government is population control, freedom reduction, theft and inefficiency.
And I forgot to add misdirection if not outright lies.
This man genetically engineered Big Baz?!
Anyone rooted in farming will look to Nature. For those that are not creation is a 6 day wonder by God so land is not a living breathing thing worshiped of itself, but a made thing of dirt plus inputs equals outputs, and that equates to the public view of farmers as menial unskilled tribesmen unsuited for the modern world.
You can't have Urban with Rural it doesn't work, it's a pure idea of Modernity and we can see the failure today. It's a problem as old as time, it's also known as the Apollonian Vs Dionysian, Apollonian is the Rural and Dionysian is the Urban.
yaz
A poem:
Contactless!
Set right apart, right from the start,
According to The Word: God-like,
Unnatural nature to nature: without nature.
Taking from the land, yet not of the land;
Taking from the creatures, yet not of the creatures;
Other, though we depend on the land and the creatures;
On the plants and the soil and the air, we do not belong.
Not imagined as creatures, as nature, even though
We breathe and bleed and breed.
Separated, isolated, unconnected; disconnected
The Earth ours to plunder, rape and ravage and ruin
Dig the mine, sink the well, pump the oil; fire the cannon,
Release the bomb. When mankind fights for land the land fights for life.
In our industrialised, urbanised, digitised lives we ignore the earth of Earth;
Cultural contact with the land is lost; the circuit is broken.
The switch is set to ‘off’. The power has gone.
We readily destroy that for which we do not care, or see;
And which we do not care to see
Land ties loosened as many became so few when
Toil left the soil for mill and mine and production line
Then the many disdained the few that remained.
Now even those who rule are not of the land
And crops have become commodities
Pre-mixed, pre-cooked, ready-made, pre-packed
Now, in our thoughts, even our food does not belong to the land.
Yet the land, its crops and creatures sustain us in body,
Its wilderness and beauty sustain us in mind.
©Peter Foster 2021