Cool! America is full of monopolies that run our government through lobbyists. I hate it here, and often feel my life is being threatened because I am autistic and queer. I wish I wasn’t born into poverty so I could leave
I found Beeeyyyn being cheeky with Cristine towards the end while she pretends not to notice disproportionately entertaining... from the men's nipples being seggsually touched being shut down to the "maybe we should check" comment being swiftly moved on 😅😅😅. It's akin to when Ben spills tea and simply tries to reign him in. We love an unrestrained and unfiltered Ben balanced with a very thoughtful and deliberate Simply 💜
Just listened to this episode and came straight to the comments to make sure someone mentioned how hilarious Ben was in turn making it also hilarious at how good Cristine is at moving along! 🤣 Such a good laugh!
I use thumbs up as a "got it, boss" for everything. With my friends, with my coworkers, with my parents. I don't love this whole "this is what it means on the surface but actually we've arbitrarily decided that it means something else."
Agree!! A thumbs up should simply mean a thumbs up. I can't keep up with the underlying meanings for things anymore. I never remember being younger and thinking about changing the meaning of things
I've been a Swiftie since Debut album and to say that she drags her fans along is hilarious to me. There is a large portion of her fans who LOVE all the easter eggs and codes and clues, we live off that shit. I can see from an outside perspective that it might look like she's dramatic and stringing her fans along, but that's not the case. I'm sure there are fans who don't like the games, but I'd say the majority of Swifties get really into it.
Regarding people being angry about other people not wanting kids: I read a brilliant article about it a couple years ago. Studies have found that "society" gets so angry at people not wanting children because most people have had it taught to them as a social norm. They have complied or plan to comply with the norm and a lot of them aren't completely happy with it. If someone elects not to comply with that norm, they're actually (like measurably inside the brain) seen as an enemy
Part of the issue I think with Taylor Swift and Ticketmaster was the website crashing, and Ticketmaster claiming they weren’t prepared for the traffic when they knew exactly how many codes went out. Additionally other artist have been known to cancel tickets of people who immediately go to resale their tickets for huge markups (think those people listing tickets for 20k etc).
I would be fine if someone brought a main dish to my dinner! More options for people to try. Plus when they leave they are probably gonna leave the food they brought. So more leftovers for me 😍
Maybe unpopular opinion but if I bring food in anything other than foil, you better believe that I am bringing it back with me. I cherish my Tupperware & Pyrex.
The ticketing thing is just so different to how it works in Japan!! For many artists(jpop/kpop not sure about western artists) have a fanclub and you enroll in that with an annual fee(~50$). The ticketing first opens to FC, all the tickets are of the same price(~100$) and seats are assigned randomly. The tickets are also allocated via lottery if number of people wanting to go is greater than size of the venue. I personally like it a lot as one does not have to worry about price and has chance to see artists closer too even with the same amount of money.
America needs to adopt this structure and manage tickets this way but at the same time America has a double edged sword with freedom. We have too much freedom here so by default you have the freedom to be a casual fan or a Stan. Fanclubs are not a business here and it's made up by the public aka the young fans themselves. A label doesn't create a singular fan club here for everyone to sign up for. It would be interesting to see how that would be. That's why I don't feel sorry for her for this reason cause there are other ways to do it.
10:53 as someone who urgently had to have a liver transplant two months ago, this section on organ donation is so heart warming to me. i really appreciate it and it's so nice to see more people talk about it, it's so incredibly important and literally saved my life ❤
@@Onemoremochalatteplease the "ok" symbol or 👌 is commonly used by rightwing or otherwise nazi-affiliated folks, it's definitely not something everyone would know nor is it inherently indicative of your ideological affiliation but it's a fairly common dogwhistle and can be a little off-putting to those who are aware of its common affiliation. (edited to add, clicked send too soon lol) it's also a fairly commonly used passive aggressive/dismissive emoji
I agree with the poster for the children one. There are people (usually teenagers or people in their early 20s) who never want to see a child in a public place and will go so far as to purposely talk about inappropriate things, curse, or say something like “Santa isn’t real” just to terrorize the kid and make the parent take the kid out of their sight. I get not liking kids and/or not wanting kids… but there is a level of entitlement in people that will say bad things to get children away from them in public, where the adult and child have an equal right to be there… that’s where kids are “overhated”
A lot of people have been screaming about the monopoly that is Ticketmaster for years. The TM/LiveNation merger never should have happened. And one of the many problems with Ticketmaster is, they hire scalpers to buy up tickets so they can resell them at exorbitant rates. So yes, TM has the "verified fan" process, but they also have the ability to bypass that so their own scalpers can get tickets. They also do "official platinum" tickets, which is just more bs ways for them to jack up ticket prices. They have a lot of shady business practices.
The 🙏 emoji can mean a variety of things depending on your own perception, and the culture you're from. I've seen this emoji being used to mean praying, begging (please), wishing, asking for forgiveness, plus someone once suggested to me that the emoji is a high five between two people.
I have been procrastinating all morning waiting for 11 o’clock to show up so I can start doing my chores because I cannot listen to anything that is not your podcast and I’ve already binged all the podcasts &! I’m about to go for a second round but I NEEDED this along with my Matcha latte thank you!!
Ticket prices - Heard about surge pricing for airlines. Didn't know that Ticketmaster did that. Can't stand that re-sellers can charge what they do. Last concert I got tickets for a normal $80 ticket was going for $400. Made sure my girls joined fanclubs before buying their next tickets so they could buy before the general public and get the tickets at normal prices. I also know that one of our local music venues has mentioned that Live Nation is trying to control them and they don't want it. Thanksgiving - people ask all the time if they could bring a dish. That's ok by me, less to cook. The ending of this episode is too funny!!
In regards to bringing food to dinner: I think it all depends on the culture. In my culture it’s very normal for guests to bring additional entrees and sides. In fact, I feel guilty when I go to dinner at someone’s house and I don’t contribute food
All love Cristine! I feel like the post about hating children wasn't saying that people need to like all children and be obsessed with them whenever they're in your presence. I think the person just meant you shouldn't actively hate children just because they are young. You don't have to want kids or want to be around kids, but why do you have to hate them? They're just kids. I think hate is such a strong word, maybe it would be better to just say "I don't like being around them," or "I don't want to hold them." Cuz I think that's different than saying "I hate children."
Re the Thanksgiving meal: if someone runs it by me first, great! More food the better. My family does potluck style holiday meals so Cristine's opinions are not unpopular. Maybe 30 years ago it would have been. Re black Friday: it used to be on Fridays in the US. When I worked retail, they stated that Black Friday was to bring the profit margin out of the red into the black. This was a big box store I worked at. In the final years of working there (approx 15 yrs ago) they started doing midnight sales, eventually leading to Thursday sales. Be thankful for what you have then elbow someone in the face for the big screen TV. LOL! In the US there is Black Friday, small business Saturday, and cyber Monday.
I get the feeling it’s kind of an “old-fashioned” thing also. Like maybe when people use to serve an appetizer, then the meal, then a prepared dessert, I can’t honestly remember a time when food was about one person “presenting an experience” and I’m 32. It was always about family getting together and the more food the merrier.
I’m relatively young, and I would definitely agree that the thumbs up emoji _can_ often be passive aggressive. I am sure because I use it passive aggressively. However, it does depend on the context of the sender.
As someone who used to own an Etsy shop, I really benefited from Cyber Monday. Just have to plan those sales ahead of time when you’re setting up your pricing.
In general if a guest is to bring food over in a non-potluck situation, it should be courteous of them to run it with the host first a few days prior to the event. Making food for a big party takes an immense amount of effort, time, planning AND cost. So, if someone randomly brings over a main hefty dish without notice, it's going to disrupt the host's plan of what to make, how much portion is appropriate to prevent leftovers, the cost and time to spend overall. I'd be more than annoyed if someone did this to me, without any further context given. If I spent an entire week planning and prepping for several dish and some douche brings in a big meal (without notice), the guests are going to awkwardly try to eat both our food and leaving a bunch of leftovers afterwards. Leftovers are absolutely normal since people usually take them home, but I wouldn't want more food left out unfinished than I expected, all turning cold and slowly stale. At least to me, cooking takes a lot of estimations. Like, run it over with me and give me time so I can adjust my plan accordingly.
Being Mexican when the family gets together there’s going to be a lot of people present so having an assortment of food is needed. I’m always assured that if the turkey, because only 1 or 2 are prepared, there’s always something else. In my family gatherings, there is turkey, pozole, tamales, brisket, ham, and carne asada and variety of sides from traditional thanksgiving sides to common Mexican sides. Also turkey’s great, it gives a chicken vibe but with turkey flavor, the kind of turkey the poster had wasn’t seasoned or moisten it properly.
I had the "bringing food to someones dinner" conversation with my grandma today. For context, in the part of Germany I live in you traditionally eat potato salad and sausages for Christmas Eve. My grandma is hosting that dinner this year. Her potato salad isn't vegetarian. However my sister in law and myself are both not eating meat. She offered to make a vegetarian version for us, but that would be potatoes, onions and mayonnaise... (neither my sil nor me are exited about that). So I asked if I could make a potato gratin for the two of us. After talking a bit about how I would prepare it, I'm now supposed to make enough for everybody. There still going to be potato salad (just the non veggie version). But I also get to eat something I like 😁
Actually cremation isn't as eco-friendly as people think. It takes a massive amount of energy to burn a body. Better alternatives are things like aquamation or body composting. I personally want to be composted and returned to the earth as nature intended. But for the graveyard argument, on the one hand they could be considered a waste of land, but on the other, they're the only green spot in a lot of communities.
I think making a blanket statement of "Graveyards are a waste of space," is highly insensitive to the grieving process, and those who do value it - either for personal, or spiritual reasons. I don't particularly want to be embalmed, but burred would be nice. But aquamation would be neat too. Some people need a body to grieve. Some don't.
If someone brought a main dish to a dinner I wouldn’t be mad bc that’s extra food for me later and I basically meal prepped for the next week or two (as a broke grad student here lmao)
I think what the post about kids was talking about is the tolerance of the behavior of children. I think most people have an understanding that, in public, there’s a certain amount of things you may not like but that you just have to tolerate because it’s a public space. Obviously there’s a limit, but it’s different for different people. The commenter is arguing that when Ben is in that coffee shop with a rambunctious child, even if he isn’t enamored, there should be an understanding that this is a public space and this is very normal behavior for a child. Personally, I agree with this take.
Nah, I'm with Christine. If you are invited, bring things! People have different tastes and more food is welcomed. I don't know how Canada works, but here it's really common for people to bring things to parties or big festive dinners (unless the host specifies that is not wished). Yes, the host prepares some mains, but the guests bring food as well. Salads are classics (potato and pasta salads usually), dessert as well, home made bread, side dishes. Drink bringing is rather for the lazy guests. It is also common that one phones in advance and discusses with the host what would be fine to bring, otherwise it can happen that one has 5 cakes and no salad. And when one has special dietary needs, that person definitely brings food.
Ed Sheeran did some interesting things to prevent resale of tickets! I believe that he only allowed it though Ticketmasters site, and they had to be for face value. They also checked ids to make sure they matched the tickets and canceled any tickets that were resold outside of the approved platform
I'm with Cristine. Pretty much every event is okay to bring additional food or dishes to, at least with my large group of friends and family. With the exception of maybe birthday parties, it's almost weirder if you DON'T show up with something to add.
I think the "bringing food" is something cultural. In Mexico, at Christmas and New Year's dinners people usually cooperate (with money or food) for everyone to share, or we directly ask the host "What should I bring?"
I'd love my guests to turn my holiday dinner into a whole potluck! The more the merrier! As long as everybody who wants some gets to try my food, it's all good.
I'm Australian so no thanksgiving but for Xmas in my family anyway, it's expected that you bring something whether it's a main, side or dessert. We do that to keep the stress and price down for whoever is hosting 🤷♀️ we actually spend a couple weeks organising who is bringing what. Only non family guests are only expected to bring their alcohol if they want it.
I feel like the person who doesn't like turkey because its dry and bland has just never had turkey cooked by someone who can cook turkey well. we have turkey more than just thanksgiving although it tends to be harder to find at the store off season. but Lasagna is very good as well.
My job does a lot of group chats for quick communications, so I'll react to a reminder, or something small, with a thumbs up, instead of a whole new message. I find 20+ "got it!" Messages to be more annoying. However I would never send a thumbs up as a message on its own lol
The Graveyard one: I think a long time ago people would be buried with like, a tree seed over top of them, and then a tree would grow in that spot. Which lead to quite a few forests. I think that could be a nice idea. I know you can be cremated and put into a little pod with a tree seed, which is definitely something I'm considering! That or a viking funeral. Or donate myself to a body farm.
I'm okay if someone else brings a main dish if I'm hosting (as long as they ask first) if it's something I'm excited to make, I'd ask them to bring something else maybe?
Yay taco Tuesday! Also I like unpopular opinions! And Menchie and Zyler. And of course Ben and Cristine. And I really need something nice right now. My cat that I've had since college, died few days ago. It feels weird to even say it (or to type it). I got her when I moved to my first apartment. She's been there for every major moment in my adult life. Just like Zyler and Cristine, we have a very similar story. I was excited for Christmas but now... I think I just want to go to sleep and wake up maybe next year 😓
@vala p Yes I have a loving family around me 🙂 Unfortunately they're all experiencing tough times so I feel a little guilty unloading on them all the time. And my psychiatrist was pretty booked, I have to wait over 3 weeks for my appointment. But thank you for looking out, it means a lot! 😊
I feel for you. So much 😔 I had a hard time feeling okay after my kitty babies died a year apart. When I felt ready, we got kittens. I almost immediately stopped feeling like a big chunk of my joy was gone. I still miss my two perfect boys. But it hurts so much less now.
I work with a lot of former military members (but I’ve never served in the military) and at work if there’s something you’re acknowledging but you don’t need to add any input/feedback the standard reply is just “10-4” so I do it so often that I find myself doing it outside of work as well and people get angry about it? Idk why 🤷♀️
I think a solution to the ticket problem would be to make it like an airline ticket, where only the person that purchased the ticket could use the ticket, and if the purchaser isn’t able to make it to the concert cause of circumstances, to allow a refund so that the ticket sellers can sell the tickets again. Since the demand is a lot stronger in comparison to airline tickets, they wouldn’t have troubles reselling it
I definitely think it depends on what company is doing 50% off like right now the boutique I work for is doing 50 to 70% off items just because she doesn’t want to have to count it for inventory and taxes and she is losing money on lots of items and our customers are so great to us the rest of the year. It’s also great to get back to them and give them awesome deals on items.
I don’t think I would care if someone brought a main dish to a dinner party more options plus not everyone has the same dietary needs so I think it’s more common
For the Ticketmaster / Taylor Swift subject, in France we have a somewhat similar situation with Hellfest, which is a big metal festival where there are nowhere near enough tickets for everyone who wishes to go. They get blamed every year for going through Ticketmaster because their platform crashes everytime, but at least they have put a cap on the number of tickets you can buy at once (only 2) to filter out bots, and they are very strict with the reselling policy, to get a second hand ticket you have to go through their designated website and the price is limited to the original price. It's not perfect and a lot of people get frustrated, but it shows that you can put measures in place to regulate what happens !
Lol the day after Thanksgiving we get two really big turkeys cause they're super cheap and we keep them in our deep freezer and make one in February or march and eat what we can, freeze the rest and the bones for stock for soup later in the year and turkey meat for casseroles and you just take it out the freezer and it's done. It's a cheap way to feed your family with a lot of food 😋
My family has never had an issue with dishes being brought even if unexpected. If anything we've leaned into it more over the years. Now that everyone is old enough to cook we all divy up the dishes as well as bring our own stuff so its more like a potluck Thanksgiving. My moms birthday is usually on or the day after Thanksgiving so it also takes the pressure off her having to cook a big meal on her birthdays
I feel like when it comes to artists with Taylor Swift's sizeable popularity, they should start limiting the number of concerts someone can go to. If you've already seen Taylor Swift in concert twice, then don't get a ticket for her new stuff, because someone who hasn't been able to get a ticket due to limited availability should be able to have a chance to go
If it's thanksgiving where there will be a lot of already, I think it's fine to bring an extra dish and especially if you have asked. However, if I'm hosting a dinner where I'm making just 1-2 single dish for everyone, I would think it's weird to do that, even if they asked, I will probably say yes but felt a bit unhappy (unless you have special dietary restriction of course).
We have neurodivergent folks and vegetarian folks in our family so there are always other options people bring to holidays. I don’t think people should take it personally. 💗
the 'hate children' thing is probably from seeing viral tweets/posts from like Twitter/reddit. They can get pretty unhinged in comments they make about kids lol. Far more than just a simple 'i don't like/i hate kids' or keeping a distance from them.
Every Thanksgiving dinner I have ever been to is loosely "potluck" style, so I would feel wierd going to a Thanksgiving celebration without bringing something. I've always been taught that this is a day for sharing, so this is how you do it. I don't know if that's normal, or if it's just my family, or it's cultural.
Definitely with Cristine on the dinner debate! Thanksgivings where I’m from (Midwest of the US) typically involve everyone bringing sides, so bringing lasagna would be very welcomed by every thanksgiving I’ve been to! 😃 I feel like that’s the popular opinion though, no?
If someone brings a main dish without letting me know, to me would be rude 😅 but if they let me know ahead of time so I don't have to make a main dish, im down 😁
i. love. how. much. ben. loves. cris. i just love it so much, reminds me of how my husband loves me🥰 also i have an ass backwards problem with kids i love children but my own are the most annoying children ive ever dealt with, but thats because i have to deal with them all day long every single day. we're literally unseperable and yeah, that's to be expected, but at least you can leave your pets at home if you need to leave the house unexpectedly. but with kids, there is no such thing as expected or unexpected, you just gotta stay ready.
Whether or not you say you want to bring a dish to a thanksgiving party (or most other gatherings) I think it’s totally okay to do! (This is coming from a filipino culture where we always bring food, dessert, or something to a party or family gathering) i wouldn’t mind if people bring a dish or two as long as no one repeats anything I’ve made LOL as long as they don’t “discard” your food as nothing
Although I think when presented with a death or life choice, most people would choose life, it is just a reflection of survival instinct. Choosing a life of suffering doesn't mean it's not going to be a life of suffering, and a suitable punishment.
Listening to someone talk about Black Friday margins and loses and revenue is so weird. Black Friday is a new thing in my country and it's a scam. Regardless of the size of the company. If you track prices, by mid september they start going up. A year or two ago I wanted to buy something. Every store near me (and online) had the item at around 70 euros on Thursday. The biggest chain store in the country had the item 120e. Friday rolls around... 69,99! What a deal! On a different occasion I was tracking the price for the phone I currently own because I wanted a specific colorway and it was more expensive than the rest. You could see the price creep up from August.
Cooking thanksgiving dinner/ other complicated meals can literally take all day long; people put a lot of effort and love into meals like that. So I would be devastated if someone brought an alternative main course to a diner I had spent all day cooking and felt proud of. Like, bringing side dishes is completely fine (and obviously if the meal is catered then this doesn’t really apply). But in terms of homemade meals; bringing a different main course is a huge faux pas that will likely either enrage or break the heart of whoever spent their day cooking . Maybe I’m over sensitive, but (as someone who knows personally just how much effort goes into cooking/hosting a holiday meal) I would probably burst into tears if someone brought lasagna to a thanksgiving meal I had cooked. (At least without running it by me beforehand, or if they had brought it specifically due to dietary restrictions). I wouldn’t be angry with them or anything; but I’ld definitely be humiliated and heartbroken that they weren’t even willing to give my food a chance. For many people and cultures, food is away of showing love to others. I appreciate Cristine’s perspectives here bc I understand that she’s a very practical/pragmatic person who likely views meals more for their utility (nourishment), but for many folks meals in general, and especially family meals, hold a lot of emotional significance.
My boyfriend actually also has that last opinion that men should also be required to cover up. I think in his head it's just like, they'd wear a tank top with the swim trunks
imma be honest, i do feel 👍 is kinda passive-aggressive, mostly because a lot of times you are expecting a follow up. And also because we already use this emoji in social situations, the same as 👀 for "seen". I much prefer emojis like✅ and 👌 because they aren't as commonly used as the other ones. But over all, nothing beats a written response.
I love my own child lol and sometimes I think random babies are cute but I don’t have the patience for them in the same way I do for my kid. I’ve also worked with kids and teens and working with teens is easier imo
As for the children argument: Ben's point is really great. Like I am not enthused about children, but put a small child or baby in front of my mother and she will get heart eyes. If it was socially acceptable to ask any and all strangers if you could hold their baby (like how I would ask people if I can pet their dog) my mom would do it. That being said, I think it is also important to remember that children are future adults, and their behaviour will be influenced by those around them.
I kinda agree with Ben that it would be weird, unless they had like allergies they were concerned of or had different eating restrictions/requirements ect
I think a lot of the takes are Ben and Cristine not knowing a "group of ppl" exist. I don't want children but I have heard ppl go "eww" at the mention of children and it is kind of rude. It's fine to not like children but ogling "eww" at someone isn't. So yes people do hate children 😂 and they are rude about it. Also, yes people do think the thumbs up emoji is passive aggressive i have had that discussion with friends 😂 and they did think it was passive aggressive (we are millennials)
Re: Children - Yes, I was looking for a comment addressing this. There are definitely pockets of people on the internet (the childfree subreddit, for example) and in real life who speak about kids and even others having kids, or having to interact with kids in a really uncomfortably negative way. Ben & Christine, or Chelsea on The Financial Diet are by comparison reasonable about it in that they take the position of 'not for me but good for you'. A good portion of the "I hate kids" rhetoric is not that kind. And, frankly, the position of the OP seemed rather neutral rather than, as Ben seemed to say, wondering why everyone doesn't like kids. To me the post came across as saying "children are not 'small adults' they are developmentally growing so treat them kindly" which I agree with.
Yeah, I was slightly bothered that they didn't seem to realise that people like this exist (or take that person for their word!) It's very real and can be a true issue when it's the cause of neglect. So many people, even those who keep their negative thoughts to themselves, forget that children are human beings with feelings and a memory. I'm uncomfortable around children but I only wish them the best, and it angers me whenever I witness someone assuming the worst out of an actual child. Hell, I remember being frustrated as a kid when people always assumed I was lying, when I had never set a precedent for that.
I have noticed this. I even know some people who fall into this category of disliking kids so much that it's unsettling. I've heard some things said about kids that most people find abusive if it was said to an adult. I get that people don't want or like kids, I have 3 besides my nephew's they are really the only kids I like but they can go a little hard sometimes.
Most of the people who make inflammatory comments about children only do it online because its a place to vent. Especially for women in a world where making babies is seen as your life's greatest goal and sole purpose. Its a lot of pent up anger and frustration at the world. Like yeah saying "ew" to someone mentioning their kids or whatever is rude but in the grand scheme of life is it really that big of a deal lmao? People who don't like or want to be around kids are not the ones abusing them, shitty parents that should have never had them in the first place are.
here's the thing: I've had people straight up make hateful comments or even death glare my kids for literally being kids. my 2yo started crying at check out because he didnt want to sit in the cart anymore but he couldnt walk away. I tried to calm him, but he was tired and inconsolable. it was a long trip. i talked to him and said "i know you're sleepy. we're almost done." the teens behind me literally huffed and rolled their eyes and one said "this is why i hate fucing kids." this type of behavior from people that should be able to control their emotions but dont is completely inappropriate... its fine to not want kids or be indifferent to their presence, but to have this unhealthy hatred towards any child- whether they are good or bad- is absolutely disgusting. if a child doing child things is triggering for you, then maybe YOU are the problem... this generation wants to address the traumas they've endured and the mental health problems they have, but then turn around and treat literal kids like dirt or like they're the problem. all children need to be protected, whether you want them or not. the childfree movement is fueling a weird hatred for the most vulnerable population.
Too many people think of the standard dry "merica!" turkey. People need to try the food at any other poc household during the holidays 🤣 Most of the time, it mixes, and usually improves, upon the tradition turkey dinner and other cultural dish. Always the best!
im british so i dont celebrate thanksgiving, but here xmas food is basically the exact same as thanksgiving food. anyway... as someone who loves cooking and sharing the food i make with people, i think i would find it a LITTLE disrespectful for someone to bring their own main dish but it DEPENDS. side dishes are totally different especially if its something im not already making. for example, if someone wants to bring their own cranberry sauce or pigs in blankets that i wont be making - you do you boo. even mash potato is super different depending on who makes it, like if i make creamy mash and the guest wants to bring lumpy mash or sweet potato mash i'm just like YES bring it! but someone bringing a lasagne for example, feels like well you may as well just be like "i'm really sorry i just don't like turkey or gravy that much, is it okay if i bring my own plate of lasagne?" i can't pretend i wouldn't find it unusual, but at the same time its being totally honest and doesn't make it immediately personal. if you bring it and treat it like its just another option, but then only eat the lasagne at the meal i'd just be like.... is it MY turkey/gravy? idk ahahahaha. even if it is, then even using a white lie of like "oh i just don't like turkey" is the kind thing to do. case by case situation.
Reacting to a message with a thumbs up is cool, but responding with just an emoji rubs me the wrong way (including, but not limited to the thumbs up emoji). I guess my thought process is, like how hard is it to just type "sounds good, thank you" instead of 👍? Especially in a professional context.
i use thumbs up for things when i don’t know the person as well, i use the heart emoji on messages with my friends when they announce something special. i’m a gen z. i think i can see how someone might think a thumbs up is passive aggressive if they expected a bigger response or something?
In my family if the dinner party was a big meal like Thanksgiving, lots of people bring dishes for the event. I am team bring what you want to eat for sure!
for the “is soup food?” question, i think it really depends on whether it’s homemade or not. in brazil, we have this interesting concept of food (comida): it’s only “real food” if it fits our specific idea of a “nutritious” meal, e.g.: soup made from scratch would easily qualify as food, but soup made from a powder packet would not. even things like sandwiches, no matter how healthy it is, might not be considered by most people as real food because it doesn’t necessarily fit our idea of a meal - e.g.: the typical lunch in places like rio and são paulo is black beans with white rice, a salad and some type of protein. anyways, it’s all very cultural ig.
I also hate the thumbs up emoji reply, it also feels passive aggressive to me. I can stop and think and KNOW when people don't mean it like that, but I will still be like "Well, ok. Fork you too then".
i’m born in 1998 (24yo) and work in a corporate setting where everyone on my team/who i interact with are either at least 35yo or in a totally different life stage (have kids, homeowners, etc) and can 100% confirm that their messages/emails seem passive aggressive af to me and they abuse tf out of the thumbs up. the ellipses (the …) also makes me incredibly anxious bc it’s the shadiest thing when used by gen-z, but older ppl just use that instead of a comma for some reason. i’ve had to train myself to not take anything like that personally and realize that thumbs up just means they’re saying “ok” 🥲
When Ben said “turkey should be replaced by lasagna” I thought he was talking about the country lol
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@@nisayildiz1925 👍 (as in “i agree, let’s not”)
lol this reminds me of when Cristine confused polish (as in nail polish) with Polish (as in the nationality)
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The «resell is allowed, but only to the same price or less then what you bought it for” is a literal law in Norway! And I love that! 👏🏻
Cool! America is full of monopolies that run our government through lobbyists. I hate it here, and often feel my life is being threatened because I am autistic and queer. I wish I wasn’t born into poverty so I could leave
@@justdeletemepleaseyoutube that sounds really hard :( I wish you all the best!
I've heard of places in the UK doing th same thing, but I don't know if it's the law.
I found Beeeyyyn being cheeky with Cristine towards the end while she pretends not to notice disproportionately entertaining... from the men's nipples being seggsually touched being shut down to the "maybe we should check" comment being swiftly moved on 😅😅😅. It's akin to when Ben spills tea and simply tries to reign him in. We love an unrestrained and unfiltered Ben balanced with a very thoughtful and deliberate Simply 💜
Honestly!! My favorite thing of this podcast is Ben being ‘inappropriate’ and Cristine pretending is nothing 🤣 🤣 🤣
Just listened to this episode and came straight to the comments to make sure someone mentioned how hilarious Ben was in turn making it also hilarious at how good Cristine is at moving along! 🤣 Such a good laugh!
I use thumbs up as a "got it, boss" for everything. With my friends, with my coworkers, with my parents. I don't love this whole "this is what it means on the surface but actually we've arbitrarily decided that it means something else."
Agree!! A thumbs up should simply mean a thumbs up. I can't keep up with the underlying meanings for things anymore. I never remember being younger and thinking about changing the meaning of things
Same, I've always used the thimbs up emoji as 'ok' or 'will do'.
I've been a Swiftie since Debut album and to say that she drags her fans along is hilarious to me. There is a large portion of her fans who LOVE all the easter eggs and codes and clues, we live off that shit. I can see from an outside perspective that it might look like she's dramatic and stringing her fans along, but that's not the case. I'm sure there are fans who don't like the games, but I'd say the majority of Swifties get really into it.
And the ones who don't like the puzzles just skip that aspect, like any game it's not a big deal of you choose not to play
Regarding people being angry about other people not wanting kids:
I read a brilliant article about it a couple years ago. Studies have found that "society" gets so angry at people not wanting children because most people have had it taught to them as a social norm. They have complied or plan to comply with the norm and a lot of them aren't completely happy with it. If someone elects not to comply with that norm, they're actually (like measurably inside the brain) seen as an enemy
doot doot. doodie doot doot deet. doodie doot doot deet. (This is how I do the intro every taco tuesday 😅)
*inhale* heywhatsupeveryonewelcometosimplypodlogicalasimplynailogicalpodcast
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@@alenunya Holo everyone! It's me Cristine (or Menchie) again! 😂❤
"I'm praying you don't fuck up 🙏" - I love that meaning hahahah
Part of the issue I think with Taylor Swift and Ticketmaster was the website crashing, and Ticketmaster claiming they weren’t prepared for the traffic when they knew exactly how many codes went out. Additionally other artist have been known to cancel tickets of people who immediately go to resale their tickets for huge markups (think those people listing tickets for 20k etc).
I love soup! It’s definitely a meal, and not a drink (as some people will also argue)
I would be fine if someone brought a main dish to my dinner! More options for people to try. Plus when they leave they are probably gonna leave the food they brought. So more leftovers for me 😍
Maybe unpopular opinion but if I bring food in anything other than foil, you better believe that I am bringing it back with me. I cherish my Tupperware & Pyrex.
@@momahl114 You should ask for your Tupperware back and leave the food. You’re basically taking back a gift - rude
The ticketing thing is just so different to how it works in Japan!! For many artists(jpop/kpop not sure about western artists) have a fanclub and you enroll in that with an annual fee(~50$). The ticketing first opens to FC, all the tickets are of the same price(~100$) and seats are assigned randomly. The tickets are also allocated via lottery if number of people wanting to go is greater than size of the venue. I personally like it a lot as one does not have to worry about price and has chance to see artists closer too even with the same amount of money.
America needs to adopt this structure and manage tickets this way but at the same time America has a double edged sword with freedom. We have too much freedom here so by default you have the freedom to be a casual fan or a Stan. Fanclubs are not a business here and it's made up by the public aka the young fans themselves. A label doesn't create a singular fan club here for everyone to sign up for. It would be interesting to see how that would be. That's why I don't feel sorry for her for this reason cause there are other ways to do it.
10:53 as someone who urgently had to have a liver transplant two months ago, this section on organ donation is so heart warming to me. i really appreciate it and it's so nice to see more people talk about it, it's so incredibly important and literally saved my life ❤
i'm 21 and i see nothing wrong with a thumbs up, i'd be more thrown off by a 👌
As an older person, could you pls tell me why? I use 👌 when i want to say something is perfect 😭
@@MouseGeist Gen z finds so many emojis passive aggressive it’s like they only like 💀
Both are fine. Unless the person has done something else to indicate they're being passive aggressive they're just ways to say good/okay.
@@Onemoremochalatteplease the "ok" symbol or 👌 is commonly used by rightwing or otherwise nazi-affiliated folks, it's definitely not something everyone would know nor is it inherently indicative of your ideological affiliation but it's a fairly common dogwhistle and can be a little off-putting to those who are aware of its common affiliation. (edited to add, clicked send too soon lol) it's also a fairly commonly used passive aggressive/dismissive emoji
I agree with the poster for the children one. There are people (usually teenagers or people in their early 20s) who never want to see a child in a public place and will go so far as to purposely talk about inappropriate things, curse, or say something like “Santa isn’t real” just to terrorize the kid and make the parent take the kid out of their sight. I get not liking kids and/or not wanting kids… but there is a level of entitlement in people that will say bad things to get children away from them in public, where the adult and child have an equal right to be there… that’s where kids are “overhated”
A lot of people have been screaming about the monopoly that is Ticketmaster for years. The TM/LiveNation merger never should have happened. And one of the many problems with Ticketmaster is, they hire scalpers to buy up tickets so they can resell them at exorbitant rates. So yes, TM has the "verified fan" process, but they also have the ability to bypass that so their own scalpers can get tickets. They also do "official platinum" tickets, which is just more bs ways for them to jack up ticket prices. They have a lot of shady business practices.
"I'm praying you don't fuck up" just made me cackle LMAO
The 🙏 emoji can mean a variety of things depending on your own perception, and the culture you're from.
I've seen this emoji being used to mean praying, begging (please), wishing, asking for forgiveness, plus someone once suggested to me that the emoji is a high five between two people.
I have been procrastinating all morning waiting for 11 o’clock to show up so I can start doing my chores because I cannot listen to anything that is not your podcast and I’ve already binged all the podcasts &! I’m about to go for a second round but I NEEDED this along with my Matcha latte thank you!!
Also procrastinating chores cause I’m freezing and I don’t want to adult today 🤣
That sound good
Ticket prices - Heard about surge pricing for airlines. Didn't know that Ticketmaster did that. Can't stand that re-sellers can charge what they do. Last concert I got tickets for a normal $80 ticket was going for $400. Made sure my girls joined fanclubs before buying their next tickets so they could buy before the general public and get the tickets at normal prices. I also know that one of our local music venues has mentioned that Live Nation is trying to control them and they don't want it. Thanksgiving - people ask all the time if they could bring a dish. That's ok by me, less to cook. The ending of this episode is too funny!!
In regards to bringing food to dinner: I think it all depends on the culture. In my culture it’s very normal for guests to bring additional entrees and sides. In fact, I feel guilty when I go to dinner at someone’s house and I don’t contribute food
All love Cristine!
I feel like the post about hating children wasn't saying that people need to like all children and be obsessed with them whenever they're in your presence. I think the person just meant you shouldn't actively hate children just because they are young. You don't have to want kids or want to be around kids, but why do you have to hate them? They're just kids. I think hate is such a strong word, maybe it would be better to just say "I don't like being around them," or "I don't want to hold them." Cuz I think that's different than saying "I hate children."
Re the Thanksgiving meal: if someone runs it by me first, great! More food the better. My family does potluck style holiday meals so Cristine's opinions are not unpopular. Maybe 30 years ago it would have been.
Re black Friday: it used to be on Fridays in the US. When I worked retail, they stated that Black Friday was to bring the profit margin out of the red into the black. This was a big box store I worked at. In the final years of working there (approx 15 yrs ago) they started doing midnight sales, eventually leading to Thursday sales. Be thankful for what you have then elbow someone in the face for the big screen TV. LOL! In the US there is Black Friday, small business Saturday, and cyber Monday.
I get the feeling it’s kind of an “old-fashioned” thing also. Like maybe when people use to serve an appetizer, then the meal, then a prepared dessert, I can’t honestly remember a time when food was about one person “presenting an experience” and I’m 32. It was always about family getting together and the more food the merrier.
I’m relatively young, and I would definitely agree that the thumbs up emoji _can_ often be passive aggressive. I am sure because I use it passive aggressively.
However, it does depend on the context of the sender.
As someone who used to own an Etsy shop, I really benefited from Cyber Monday. Just have to plan those sales ahead of time when you’re setting up your pricing.
In general if a guest is to bring food over in a non-potluck situation, it should be courteous of them to run it with the host first a few days prior to the event. Making food for a big party takes an immense amount of effort, time, planning AND cost. So, if someone randomly brings over a main hefty dish without notice, it's going to disrupt the host's plan of what to make, how much portion is appropriate to prevent leftovers, the cost and time to spend overall. I'd be more than annoyed if someone did this to me, without any further context given. If I spent an entire week planning and prepping for several dish and some douche brings in a big meal (without notice), the guests are going to awkwardly try to eat both our food and leaving a bunch of leftovers afterwards. Leftovers are absolutely normal since people usually take them home, but I wouldn't want more food left out unfinished than I expected, all turning cold and slowly stale.
At least to me, cooking takes a lot of estimations. Like, run it over with me and give me time so I can adjust my plan accordingly.
Was worried there wasn’t gonna be an episode today lol. Thanks for saving me from work for a little while
Being Mexican when the family gets together there’s going to be a lot of people present so having an assortment of food is needed. I’m always assured that if the turkey, because only 1 or 2 are prepared, there’s always something else. In my family gatherings, there is turkey, pozole, tamales, brisket, ham, and carne asada and variety of sides from traditional thanksgiving sides to common Mexican sides. Also turkey’s great, it gives a chicken vibe but with turkey flavor, the kind of turkey the poster had wasn’t seasoned or moisten it properly.
I had the "bringing food to someones dinner" conversation with my grandma today. For context, in the part of Germany I live in you traditionally eat potato salad and sausages for Christmas Eve. My grandma is hosting that dinner this year. Her potato salad isn't vegetarian. However my sister in law and myself are both not eating meat. She offered to make a vegetarian version for us, but that would be potatoes, onions and mayonnaise... (neither my sil nor me are exited about that). So I asked if I could make a potato gratin for the two of us. After talking a bit about how I would prepare it, I'm now supposed to make enough for everybody. There still going to be potato salad (just the non veggie version). But I also get to eat something I like 😁
Aww I hope menchie is feeling better 🫶
Lol the "rock on" hand sign Ben held up actually means i love you 🤟. The rock on symbol is this one 🤘. 😂
Definitely did not know that 😅
I thought it was just the spiderman one
@@jasmine-ruff-puff9951 nooo 😂
man i really needed this to cheer me up rn ngl
Actually cremation isn't as eco-friendly as people think. It takes a massive amount of energy to burn a body. Better alternatives are things like aquamation or body composting. I personally want to be composted and returned to the earth as nature intended. But for the graveyard argument, on the one hand they could be considered a waste of land, but on the other, they're the only green spot in a lot of communities.
I think making a blanket statement of "Graveyards are a waste of space," is highly insensitive to the grieving process, and those who do value it - either for personal, or spiritual reasons. I don't particularly want to be embalmed, but burred would be nice. But aquamation would be neat too. Some people need a body to grieve. Some don't.
If someone brought a main dish to a dinner I wouldn’t be mad bc that’s extra food for me later and I basically meal prepped for the next week or two (as a broke grad student here lmao)
I think what the post about kids was talking about is the tolerance of the behavior of children. I think most people have an understanding that, in public, there’s a certain amount of things you may not like but that you just have to tolerate because it’s a public space. Obviously there’s a limit, but it’s different for different people. The commenter is arguing that when Ben is in that coffee shop with a rambunctious child, even if he isn’t enamored, there should be an understanding that this is a public space and this is very normal behavior for a child. Personally, I agree with this take.
Nah, I'm with Christine. If you are invited, bring things! People have different tastes and more food is welcomed. I don't know how Canada works, but here it's really common for people to bring things to parties or big festive dinners (unless the host specifies that is not wished). Yes, the host prepares some mains, but the guests bring food as well. Salads are classics (potato and pasta salads usually), dessert as well, home made bread, side dishes. Drink bringing is rather for the lazy guests. It is also common that one phones in advance and discusses with the host what would be fine to bring, otherwise it can happen that one has 5 cakes and no salad. And when one has special dietary needs, that person definitely brings food.
I never use the salute emoji for saluting, I use it for like 'covering my face'
we have always had boxing day here in Australia but now black Friday has gotten bigger and bigger.
Ed Sheeran did some interesting things to prevent resale of tickets! I believe that he only allowed it though Ticketmasters site, and they had to be for face value. They also checked ids to make sure they matched the tickets and canceled any tickets that were resold outside of the approved platform
Any guest who wants to bring any dish to my thanksgiving I’m totally for it. I agree with Cristine.
I'm with Cristine. Pretty much every event is okay to bring additional food or dishes to, at least with my large group of friends and family. With the exception of maybe birthday parties, it's almost weirder if you DON'T show up with something to add.
I think the "bringing food" is something cultural.
In Mexico, at Christmas and New Year's dinners people usually cooperate (with money or food) for everyone to share, or we directly ask the host "What should I bring?"
I'd love my guests to turn my holiday dinner into a whole potluck! The more the merrier! As long as everybody who wants some gets to try my food, it's all good.
I'm Australian so no thanksgiving but for Xmas in my family anyway, it's expected that you bring something whether it's a main, side or dessert. We do that to keep the stress and price down for whoever is hosting 🤷♀️ we actually spend a couple weeks organising who is bringing what. Only non family guests are only expected to bring their alcohol if they want it.
I feel like the person who doesn't like turkey because its dry and bland has just never had turkey cooked by someone who can cook turkey well. we have turkey more than just thanksgiving although it tends to be harder to find at the store off season. but Lasagna is very good as well.
My job does a lot of group chats for quick communications, so I'll react to a reminder, or something small, with a thumbs up, instead of a whole new message. I find 20+ "got it!" Messages to be more annoying. However I would never send a thumbs up as a message on its own lol
The Graveyard one: I think a long time ago people would be buried with like, a tree seed over top of them, and then a tree would grow in that spot. Which lead to quite a few forests. I think that could be a nice idea. I know you can be cremated and put into a little pod with a tree seed, which is definitely something I'm considering! That or a viking funeral. Or donate myself to a body farm.
I'm okay if someone else brings a main dish if I'm hosting (as long as they ask first) if it's something I'm excited to make, I'd ask them to bring something else maybe?
Yay taco Tuesday! Also I like unpopular opinions! And Menchie and Zyler. And of course Ben and Cristine. And I really need something nice right now. My cat that I've had since college, died few days ago. It feels weird to even say it (or to type it). I got her when I moved to my first apartment. She's been there for every major moment in my adult life. Just like Zyler and Cristine, we have a very similar story.
I was excited for Christmas but now... I think I just want to go to sleep and wake up maybe next year 😓
So sorry for your loss, I think your baby knew you loved her (and still do).
@vala p Yes I have a loving family around me 🙂 Unfortunately they're all experiencing tough times so I feel a little guilty unloading on them all the time. And my psychiatrist was pretty booked, I have to wait over 3 weeks for my appointment.
But thank you for looking out, it means a lot! 😊
I am so sorry to hear about your kitty. Sending virtual hugs!
I feel for you. So much 😔 I had a hard time feeling okay after my kitty babies died a year apart. When I felt ready, we got kittens. I almost immediately stopped feeling like a big chunk of my joy was gone. I still miss my two perfect boys. But it hurts so much less now.
I work with a lot of former military members (but I’ve never served in the military) and at work if there’s something you’re acknowledging but you don’t need to add any input/feedback the standard reply is just “10-4” so I do it so often that I find myself doing it outside of work as well and people get angry about it? Idk why 🤷♀️
My brain knows the thumbs up is probably not passive aggressive but my anxiety thinks the person despises me deeply
I think a solution to the ticket problem would be to make it like an airline ticket, where only the person that purchased the ticket could use the ticket, and if the purchaser isn’t able to make it to the concert cause of circumstances, to allow a refund so that the ticket sellers can sell the tickets again. Since the demand is a lot stronger in comparison to airline tickets, they wouldn’t have troubles reselling it
I definitely think it depends on what company is doing 50% off like right now the boutique I work for is doing 50 to 70% off items just because she doesn’t want to have to count it for inventory and taxes and she is losing money on lots of items and our customers are so great to us the rest of the year. It’s also great to get back to them and give them awesome deals on items.
I don’t think I would care if someone brought a main dish to a dinner party more options plus not everyone has the same dietary needs so I think it’s more common
For the Ticketmaster / Taylor Swift subject, in France we have a somewhat similar situation with Hellfest, which is a big metal festival where there are nowhere near enough tickets for everyone who wishes to go. They get blamed every year for going through Ticketmaster because their platform crashes everytime, but at least they have put a cap on the number of tickets you can buy at once (only 2) to filter out bots, and they are very strict with the reselling policy, to get a second hand ticket you have to go through their designated website and the price is limited to the original price. It's not perfect and a lot of people get frustrated, but it shows that you can put measures in place to regulate what happens !
Lol the day after Thanksgiving we get two really big turkeys cause they're super cheap and we keep them in our deep freezer and make one in February or march and eat what we can, freeze the rest and the bones for stock for soup later in the year and turkey meat for casseroles and you just take it out the freezer and it's done. It's a cheap way to feed your family with a lot of food 😋
I think the real unpopular opinion is that mashed potatoes go well with lasagna, that’s not a thing right?!
I bet Cristine’s hair feels so nice since she did a big chop!!❤
When did she cut it? Did they film?
My family has never had an issue with dishes being brought even if unexpected. If anything we've leaned into it more over the years. Now that everyone is old enough to cook we all divy up the dishes as well as bring our own stuff so its more like a potluck Thanksgiving. My moms birthday is usually on or the day after Thanksgiving so it also takes the pressure off her having to cook a big meal on her birthdays
I feel like when it comes to artists with Taylor Swift's sizeable popularity, they should start limiting the number of concerts someone can go to. If you've already seen Taylor Swift in concert twice, then don't get a ticket for her new stuff, because someone who hasn't been able to get a ticket due to limited availability should be able to have a chance to go
Honestly… gotta agree with the person against free the nipple. Everyone cover them up and while we’re at it, feet too 😆 especially if they’re crusty!
If it's thanksgiving where there will be a lot of already, I think it's fine to bring an extra dish and especially if you have asked. However, if I'm hosting a dinner where I'm making just 1-2 single dish for everyone, I would think it's weird to do that, even if they asked, I will probably say yes but felt a bit unhappy (unless you have special dietary restriction of course).
The US has Black Friday, Small Business Saturday, and Cyber Monday.
It's tradition in my thanksgiving that people bring their specialty dish! It's rude to go to thanksgiving emptyhanded- at least bring pop :)
If I were throwing a party and someone offered to bring a main dish, I would appreciate it, less work for me 🤣
Family dinners in my family are usually shared effort, every "house" brings a dish (with food)
If bbq sauce is a death penalty pizza crime, where does that leave white sauce pizza? 😳
We have neurodivergent folks and vegetarian folks in our family so there are always other options people bring to holidays. I don’t think people should take it personally. 💗
the 'hate children' thing is probably from seeing viral tweets/posts from like Twitter/reddit. They can get pretty unhinged in comments they make about kids lol. Far more than just a simple 'i don't like/i hate kids' or keeping a distance from them.
Every Thanksgiving dinner I have ever been to is loosely "potluck" style, so I would feel wierd going to a Thanksgiving celebration without bringing something. I've always been taught that this is a day for sharing, so this is how you do it. I don't know if that's normal, or if it's just my family, or it's cultural.
Definitely with Cristine on the dinner debate! Thanksgivings where I’m from (Midwest of the US) typically involve everyone bringing sides, so bringing lasagna would be very welcomed by every thanksgiving I’ve been to! 😃 I feel like that’s the popular opinion though, no?
If someone brings a main dish without letting me know, to me would be rude 😅 but if they let me know ahead of time so I don't have to make a main dish, im down 😁
Ben getting flirty with Cris at the end and having her reaction be “..alright..!” really killed me 😂
i. love. how. much. ben. loves. cris. i just love it so much, reminds me of how my husband loves me🥰 also i have an ass backwards problem with kids i love children but my own are the most annoying children ive ever dealt with, but thats because i have to deal with them all day long every single day. we're literally unseperable and yeah, that's to be expected, but at least you can leave your pets at home if you need to leave the house unexpectedly. but with kids, there is no such thing as expected or unexpected, you just gotta stay ready.
Whether or not you say you want to bring a dish to a thanksgiving party (or most other gatherings) I think it’s totally okay to do! (This is coming from a filipino culture where we always bring food, dessert, or something to a party or family gathering) i wouldn’t mind if people bring a dish or two as long as no one repeats anything I’ve made LOL as long as they don’t “discard” your food as nothing
Although I think when presented with a death or life choice, most people would choose life, it is just a reflection of survival instinct. Choosing a life of suffering doesn't mean it's not going to be a life of suffering, and a suitable punishment.
that shopify ad was smooth as hell
Listening to someone talk about Black Friday margins and loses and revenue is so weird. Black Friday is a new thing in my country and it's a scam. Regardless of the size of the company. If you track prices, by mid september they start going up. A year or two ago I wanted to buy something. Every store near me (and online) had the item at around 70 euros on Thursday. The biggest chain store in the country had the item 120e. Friday rolls around... 69,99! What a deal!
On a different occasion I was tracking the price for the phone I currently own because I wanted a specific colorway and it was more expensive than the rest. You could see the price creep up from August.
Cooking thanksgiving dinner/ other complicated meals can literally take all day long; people put a lot of effort and love into meals like that. So I would be devastated if someone brought an alternative main course to a diner I had spent all day cooking and felt proud of. Like, bringing side dishes is completely fine (and obviously if the meal is catered then this doesn’t really apply). But in terms of homemade meals; bringing a different main course is a huge faux pas that will likely either enrage or break the heart of whoever spent their day cooking .
Maybe I’m over sensitive, but (as someone who knows personally just how much effort goes into cooking/hosting a holiday meal) I would probably burst into tears if someone brought lasagna to a thanksgiving meal I had cooked. (At least without running it by me beforehand, or if they had brought it specifically due to dietary restrictions). I wouldn’t be angry with them or anything; but I’ld definitely be humiliated and heartbroken that they weren’t even willing to give my food a chance.
For many people and cultures, food is away of showing love to others. I appreciate Cristine’s perspectives here bc I understand that she’s a very practical/pragmatic person who likely views meals more for their utility (nourishment), but for many folks meals in general, and especially family meals, hold a lot of emotional significance.
My boyfriend actually also has that last opinion that men should also be required to cover up. I think in his head it's just like, they'd wear a tank top with the swim trunks
I would not care at all of the guests bring extra main dishes. More food for me to have later :)
100% pot lucks are the best, the more food the merrier
Cristine, over half of the U.S. states, 27, still have the death penality, so well over 'a few', like you said.
imma be honest, i do feel 👍 is kinda passive-aggressive, mostly because a lot of times you are expecting a follow up. And also because we already use this emoji in social situations, the same as 👀 for "seen". I much prefer emojis like✅ and 👌 because they aren't as commonly used as the other ones. But over all, nothing beats a written response.
I love my own child lol and sometimes I think random babies are cute but I don’t have the patience for them in the same way I do for my kid. I’ve also worked with kids and teens and working with teens is easier imo
As for the children argument: Ben's point is really great. Like I am not enthused about children, but put a small child or baby in front of my mother and she will get heart eyes. If it was socially acceptable to ask any and all strangers if you could hold their baby (like how I would ask people if I can pet their dog) my mom would do it. That being said, I think it is also important to remember that children are future adults, and their behaviour will be influenced by those around them.
I kinda agree with Ben that it would be weird, unless they had like allergies they were concerned of or had different eating restrictions/requirements ect
I think a lot of the takes are Ben and Cristine not knowing a "group of ppl" exist. I don't want children but I have heard ppl go "eww" at the mention of children and it is kind of rude. It's fine to not like children but ogling "eww" at someone isn't. So yes people do hate children 😂 and they are rude about it. Also, yes people do think the thumbs up emoji is passive aggressive i have had that discussion with friends 😂 and they did think it was passive aggressive (we are millennials)
Re: Children - Yes, I was looking for a comment addressing this. There are definitely pockets of people on the internet (the childfree subreddit, for example) and in real life who speak about kids and even others having kids, or having to interact with kids in a really uncomfortably negative way. Ben & Christine, or Chelsea on The Financial Diet are by comparison reasonable about it in that they take the position of 'not for me but good for you'. A good portion of the "I hate kids" rhetoric is not that kind.
And, frankly, the position of the OP seemed rather neutral rather than, as Ben seemed to say, wondering why everyone doesn't like kids. To me the post came across as saying "children are not 'small adults' they are developmentally growing so treat them kindly" which I agree with.
Yeah, I was slightly bothered that they didn't seem to realise that people like this exist (or take that person for their word!) It's very real and can be a true issue when it's the cause of neglect. So many people, even those who keep their negative thoughts to themselves, forget that children are human beings with feelings and a memory. I'm uncomfortable around children but I only wish them the best, and it angers me whenever I witness someone assuming the worst out of an actual child. Hell, I remember being frustrated as a kid when people always assumed I was lying, when I had never set a precedent for that.
I have noticed this. I even know some people who fall into this category of disliking kids so much that it's unsettling. I've heard some things said about kids that most people find abusive if it was said to an adult. I get that people don't want or like kids, I have 3 besides my nephew's they are really the only kids I like but they can go a little hard sometimes.
Most of the people who make inflammatory comments about children only do it online because its a place to vent. Especially for women in a world where making babies is seen as your life's greatest goal and sole purpose. Its a lot of pent up anger and frustration at the world. Like yeah saying "ew" to someone mentioning their kids or whatever is rude but in the grand scheme of life is it really that big of a deal lmao? People who don't like or want to be around kids are not the ones abusing them, shitty parents that should have never had them in the first place are.
here's the thing: I've had people straight up make hateful comments or even death glare my kids for literally being kids. my 2yo started crying at check out because he didnt want to sit in the cart anymore but he couldnt walk away. I tried to calm him, but he was tired and inconsolable. it was a long trip. i talked to him and said "i know you're sleepy. we're almost done." the teens behind me literally huffed and rolled their eyes and one said "this is why i hate fucing kids." this type of behavior from people that should be able to control their emotions but dont is completely inappropriate... its fine to not want kids or be indifferent to their presence, but to have this unhealthy hatred towards any child- whether they are good or bad- is absolutely disgusting. if a child doing child things is triggering for you, then maybe YOU are the problem... this generation wants to address the traumas they've endured and the mental health problems they have, but then turn around and treat literal kids like dirt or like they're the problem. all children need to be protected, whether you want them or not. the childfree movement is fueling a weird hatred for the most vulnerable population.
On the last topic, interestingly enough men had to cover their chest as well at the beach. Search for pics of male swimsuits from many decades ago
Too many people think of the standard dry "merica!" turkey. People need to try the food at any other poc household during the holidays 🤣 Most of the time, it mixes, and usually improves, upon the tradition turkey dinner and other cultural dish. Always the best!
im british so i dont celebrate thanksgiving, but here xmas food is basically the exact same as thanksgiving food. anyway... as someone who loves cooking and sharing the food i make with people, i think i would find it a LITTLE disrespectful for someone to bring their own main dish but it DEPENDS. side dishes are totally different especially if its something im not already making. for example, if someone wants to bring their own cranberry sauce or pigs in blankets that i wont be making - you do you boo. even mash potato is super different depending on who makes it, like if i make creamy mash and the guest wants to bring lumpy mash or sweet potato mash i'm just like YES bring it! but someone bringing a lasagne for example, feels like well you may as well just be like "i'm really sorry i just don't like turkey or gravy that much, is it okay if i bring my own plate of lasagne?" i can't pretend i wouldn't find it unusual, but at the same time its being totally honest and doesn't make it immediately personal. if you bring it and treat it like its just another option, but then only eat the lasagne at the meal i'd just be like.... is it MY turkey/gravy? idk ahahahaha. even if it is, then even using a white lie of like "oh i just don't like turkey" is the kind thing to do. case by case situation.
I remember there was a kerfuffle about this 🙏🏻 being supposed to be a high five. Instead of the universal "thank you so fucking much".
Reacting to a message with a thumbs up is cool, but responding with just an emoji rubs me the wrong way (including, but not limited to the thumbs up emoji).
I guess my thought process is, like how hard is it to just type "sounds good, thank you" instead of 👍? Especially in a professional context.
i use thumbs up for things when i don’t know the person as well, i use the heart emoji on messages with my friends when they announce something special. i’m a gen z. i think i can see how someone might think a thumbs up is passive aggressive if they expected a bigger response or something?
In my family if the dinner party was a big meal like Thanksgiving, lots of people bring dishes for the event. I am team bring what you want to eat for sure!
for the “is soup food?” question, i think it really depends on whether it’s homemade or not. in brazil, we have this interesting concept of food (comida): it’s only “real food” if it fits our specific idea of a “nutritious” meal, e.g.: soup made from scratch would easily qualify as food, but soup made from a powder packet would not. even things like sandwiches, no matter how healthy it is, might not be considered by most people as real food because it doesn’t necessarily fit our idea of a meal - e.g.: the typical lunch in places like rio and são paulo is black beans with white rice, a salad and some type of protein. anyways, it’s all very cultural ig.
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I also hate the thumbs up emoji reply, it also feels passive aggressive to me. I can stop and think and KNOW when people don't mean it like that, but I will still be like "Well, ok. Fork you too then".
i’m born in 1998 (24yo) and work in a corporate setting where everyone on my team/who i interact with are either at least 35yo or in a totally different life stage (have kids, homeowners, etc) and can 100% confirm that their messages/emails seem passive aggressive af to me and they abuse tf out of the thumbs up. the ellipses (the …) also makes me incredibly anxious bc it’s the shadiest thing when used by gen-z, but older ppl just use that instead of a comma for some reason.
i’ve had to train myself to not take anything like that personally and realize that thumbs up just means they’re saying “ok” 🥲