Just FYI, 任务 (ren wu) in Chinese means mission or operation, but in software/OS, it means "task" in English. 开始任务 (kai shi ren wu), is what Chinese software will say when it wants to start a task. So it gets lost in translation the task and mission.
Little quirks like this is one of my favorite things in software honestly. I know lots of people consider it a negative and lack of polish, etc, but I just think they're fun little quirks. And as long as they get the point across, who cares?
Bc of this many solutions out there (Synology, Qnap, TerraMaster, Ugreen, NoName-Things...) im glad i found my way with bare metal Debian, Docker Compose and DIY Stations. Much more flexible and easy to use
Synology is really the only completely locked-down NAS on your list. Everything else has an unlocked bootloader, meaning other OS’ can be installed instead. Why doesn’t Terra-Master get the memo? They should ditch their in-house TOS and switch to something like UnRAID or even a TrueNAS backend (with maybe a TOS GUI and some other plugins) for enterprise NAS appliances.
We used to be able to buy SCSI or SATA disk cages that were 99% metal. The drive sleds were metal. The latches were metal. Never forget what they took from us.
Honestly if I try to install software and it ask me to pay to install more dependencies I'd just give up. But then again, I never used third party NAS software all I used is the terminal to deploy apps either using apt or docker.
I think an alternative OS would be more suited for this NAS. TOS doesn't support full disk encryption, only folder encryption. Folders cannot be decrypted, you would need to move files out. Encrypted folders still reveal files metadata. As mentioned in the video VirtualBox is outdated. Software aside, I'd love to see how quickly the CPU gets to 98 degrees C once under load.
Honestly Terramaster has always been good. It’s the software that hasn’t been good. I’ve had one for about 2 years and the first thing I did was install TrueNAS and it was a $350 4 bay NAS
900$ for a 4 bay For that money, i can take time off work, learn the entirety of how to build a NAS, build one myself, WITH DRIVES and get solid Networking laid out
i would like to see you build a home NAS with USB4/TB4 ports, that can do 40gbe interdomain for less money....(hint you can't, there are no cheap motherboards that do that)
@@scytobYou CAN add USB4 cards and at least data transfer, power delivery, networking and PCIe tunnelling work, but there is NO hotplugging, which is the ENTIRE point of USB.
@@fujinshu only on motherboards with the right header, chipset and CPU features, you can't add USB4 cards beyond that, no adding USB4 is anything with just PCIE slots, they don't work. Also you don't seem to realize USB4 is not USB - its unbranded TB3/TB4 with USB3.2 tunneling over a routed protocol.
Good review, honest and intuitive checking all the "specs" testing boxes. Definitely a OOF on price and lack of a few options. Seems they scrimped on a few things, then over compensated on others The nice thing is they are listening and developing and seem willing to work with the homelabber community I wonder what a community purpose built NAS would look like...this one comes close but falls short on some aspects Keep em coming!!!!
It feels like ready-made NAS systems are coming onto the market like smartphones. They can almost all do the same thing, just with a different sticker and sometimes with a software lock.
Good to know they are now embracing third-party OSes and accessories rather than trying hard to restrict it. The old one had issues with third party of memory and had boot options hidden to prevent booting unless you completely remove the internal OS USB.
I haven't finished watching the video yet, but regarding the first question about having good/modern hardware to run plex or whatever, it couldn't be more true. I've been looking for a NAS that could tackle both "NAS" + "HomeLab" + Plex in a single package and I couldn't find any, at least not turnkey solution. I was really really putting great expectation in the Asustor AS68XXT, and it seems to be incredible (still waiting for 3rd-party reviews off course), but being the "smallest" of the V3000 (in terms of cores even though base frequency is lower) and not having GPU for transcoding plex it's a deal breaker. Not to mention the price, but for everything it has, I think the premium price is justfied. 20 PCIe lanes, 4xnvme, 4-10x SATA, 2x 10gbps nic, 2x 2.5gbps nic, up to 64gb ECC memory. Just a little, really really little push and I can get my ideal NAS. tl;dr; your channel is awesome and I'm a huge fan, thanks for the great work so far and NAS'ses are expensive (but probably worth it).
I've also been struggling to find the solution for NAS+HomeLab+Plex, and it's surprisingly elusive. It seems there is always something missing, either slow network, or limited RAM, or slow CPU, etc., or it's simply too expensive. The Aoostar WTR Pro seems like the best compromise so far for turnkey hardware, but it's not perfect.
I bought a used supermicro with 12 hot-swap bays, 8 cores, and 32GB of ram for $200. Initial outlay was under $1000 for some seriously good performance. And since it was standard components, a few years later I upgraded the motherboard (for another ~$200) to 20 cores/40 threads and 128GB of ram. Currently running 8 14TB drives in raid z2, and a couple 8TB drives for removable backup swapping.
No doubt that type of setup is an option and can be cheap to purchase, for most though, it's more performance than needed and the additional on-going electricity of a server grade motherboard and CPU isn't justified. Most home lab services (NAS, home assistant, plex/jellyfin, tailscale, etc) don't require a whole lot of CPU power. I've tried to convince myself I need more cores and memory, but when I do an honest analysis, I find I really don't.
@@timezonewall very valid points. I paid extra (~$150 vs 70) for my main switch (new mikrotik vs used data center), because the new one would pay for the difference in 3 months electricity use.
It's nice to know that Terramaster is improving. I guess you either need to pay up to have what you want included or be willing to get your hands dirty. I almost always pick getting my hands dirty. Thanks!
You can't post this, I just bought the Aoostar WTR Pro because of you lol like literally minutes ago. Naw, great video as always. The Aoostar is in my budget and will get me by until I buy a 45 Drives HL8
The HL8 is nice, but I can't get past the price for the version with just a chassis and backplane. Seems at least double of what it should be. If cost is not a concern, then yea, get the fully built model.
Yeah, I would think most fans of the channel would do that. BUT, an off the shelf device can be useful for a friend or family member who wants network storage in their house and you don't want to contantly provide tech support.
Yes, but any NAS system with an unlocked bootloader is great, since they come with other functionality that is often expensive, such as hot-swappable drives and Thunderbolt/USB4.
I bought a TM F4-423 and run Debian/KVM/Docker/Samba on it. Its pretty great. My unit has a flaw, tho, no matter the O/S running on it... the network light flashes all the time, regardless of traffic. Kind of annoying.
At 05:25 I found that bios version on this unit is 5.26, july 2024. At least, its later than microcode patch of may, however terramaster do not provide any information nor separate download for bios updates. Intel releas microcodes often... at time of writing, microcodes released even at october 29th. So... do Terramaster behave adequately as mainboard "reseller"? I was not able to find any security advisory page on the support website. No bios information for F4-424 Max, and forum still lacks a security advisory section. For a company bringing to market both hardware and software well... not the best. Other brands do not provide bios updates, however security issues on the software are specifically reported on appropriate pages named for explaining "issues are there". Oh boy. Only at 07:11 I was able to know that 10gbe adapters are.. Aquantia AQC113C. According to STH, this is a nice 4w 10Gbe chip, that can get actual 9.5gps transfer rate. It's not the best in class, but for the power consumption is a nice one. With the price of these boxes, network chips embedded are IMVHO worth... of talking about.
The USB connected to the motherboard already has TOS pre-installed on it, just needed to re-enable booting from it in Bios. Why did you re-install it again on another drive?
I can see why it's priced so high in comparison to... the 2-bay F2-212 I bought awhile ago. But I think that's for people who are more ambitious than I am. Originally, all I wanted was a simple RAID 1 setup, but when I started exploring what else I could do with the rest of the hardware, that's where they started shoving all sorts of stuff in with that said, I'm still trying to find a 4-bay to jam my other spare drives in lol
This'll be a nice piece of kit when it goes on sale for $600-700. Also, the 6-bay version with same specs is only $100 more at $1k, so a better deal if you can use the extra bays.
maybe try increasing the black levels/exposure a bit? on some angles (especially the top down desk one) over half the frame is just a black void/clipping, which doesn't look too good
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the F4-424 (not the Pro or Max version...so...the "Plain"?) and how you think it compares to some of the other systems you mentioned. That's a system I've been considering for a first NAS.
Could you please make a video about the new Asustor Lockerstor Gen3? I know I know, they are expensive... But, from what I can tell, the specs are pretty amazing and in contrast to many other OEMs (like Terramaster here) they officially allow you to run your own OS. I would love to hear your oppinion on that bevor I buy one of these myself. Cheers!
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I don't know if this really is that expensive. I see that Synology DS923+ with the added 10 gbit nic cost about the same but that the Synology have weaker hardware and cost a lot more to expand. I looking for something to replace my DS718+ that might be able to hold my needs for the coming 10 years or so. I do need to find a router that can feed this 10 gbit too. What options are there for that?
I'm not paying $900 for an empty chassis with space for only 4 disks. No way. That's about $600 too expensive for me. I'd rather buy something older at that point and modify it to my standards. I mean.. I recently bought a 12-bay Synology RS2418+ for €500, and that even has 10Gbit SFP+ connections.
I want to give my mom a simple NAS solution without making her do all the dirty technical work… but I’m leaning towards Synology or some kind of brand that do make some off the shelf NAS so that way if my mom decides to expand and make herself a Jellyfin server, I don’t want her to be frustrated with permissions when she don’t want to spend any money just to get the services working.
Synology definitely have the most tech illiterate friendly off the shelf NAS devices, its more limited and you pay a hefty premium for it though but its what I would get my mom
Basically i wish terramaster would just ship stock truenas scale and focus on good hardware for the price. I don't really want to run some weird os on my nas.
Hey Man, I think out of all the self-hosted/homelab UA-camrs you're the one who's got an AV background so why don't you do something on a DIY self-hosted whole room audio streaming setup using self-hosted solutions like LMS or Snapcast and on the cheap if possible.
5 + 2 for redundancy & a duplicate set for backup. So a rack mounted NAS with atleast 14 drive bays. Why 5 drives? you would get close to 100tb storage with upcoming HDDs. The redundancy is to give you enough time from vacation or what ever to swap in replacement HDDs.
They almost got the hardware right...... I'll put my vote towards four m.2 slots at Gen4x2. Unless you have a VM or Container running doing some crazy IO to the NVME, it is never going to saturate a Gen4x4. At least they didn't put four m.2 slots all at different generations and lane counts. And if only they had put at least one USB port on the front.... for easy backups. Maybe they will bring out a six 3.5 bay and 4 m.2 device..... might have to sell someone's new born to the devil to be able to afford it though 🤪
TerraMaster: hey chatgpt, we have dozens of extremely similar nas', what can we do to make them better chatgpt: add some unique options that only attract the most edge use cases, and a price increase TerraMaster: :thumbsup:
You should build a Pi NAS with Ceph or similar. Build a cluster so it is fully redundant. (Also VMWare has an EXSi ARM fling that works great on pi hardware. VCenter too and it’s godlike)
Your transcode issue was likely an issue with intel kernel driver. The SSS boot drive issue was 100% your issue, it was an unreasonable expectation to use a drive that you put OS for SSD caching. Also the drives appearing 4 USB drives is reasonable, you were doing USB…
The single dev is a nightmare to deal with. Very vindictive and dismissive, deletes any feedback or suggestions. 17:46 I have also STRUGGLED to get jellyfin working. After tonnes of research within their forums I got mine to work, but after a week it needs to be restarted (won't let anyone stream anything, crazy error messages). If someone else could make Docker for idiots, so we can bypass the dev's half-baked mess, that'd be great.
If you use Jellyfin in the web-browser it needs to transcode h265 media in real time to H264 or something a browser can use. I have jellyfin on a raspberry pi and that can't decode h265 to h264 on the fly.
My QNAP 4-bay NAS that I bought in 2018 was cheaper than this. Granted, it doesn't have any NVMe slots, only has dual 1 GbE NICs and also has a Celeron J3455 in it and RAM tops out at 8 GB, but for what it is, it works. At almost $900, this is way overpriced.
I'll tell you a story you wont read on Amazon, etc because they would most likely delete my story. It took my 3 days to realize: behind a great hardware for a price for NAS stands full of flaws TOS 6.X and all its embeeded apps. Copying the 3TB to external drive - failed without clear log stating whats going on. Trying to backup my 350GB OneDrive stucks (fails) in the middle with no clear log on whats going on and possibility to restart it. Survivelance does not work while it worked flawlessly on my previous NAS. Flaws, flaws, flaws even on the level of pure copy of the data to external hdd or running things in parallel. Thus, unless you unraid it (but thats additional cost unless you bought (or download) a license for it) this is extremely unrealiable piece of hardware/software. Shame for Terramaster to deliver such product with so many flaws in their software. Risk of getting your data lost is incredible.
15:47 this is weird... 16:28 that not the typical 1 or 2 hour time to wait, it's literraly 4 day O _ o wtf you cant even donwload without account... and i dont know what they do more that "required" to sub for 10$/months, that are pretty expensive, a donate button why not, but 10$/month for litteraly "free open app" nice video, and thanks to point out this "community website"
TerraMaster's case design is so ugly and look so cheap, I don't want to have it just due to aesthetic reasons despite any specs. And that HUGE logo embedded in the cheap plastic is just tasteless. As if the person that designed it never heard about design as discipline.
for transcoding in jellyfin docker containers you need to expose /dev/dri (at least for amd and intel, nvidia is a bit different) devices: - /dev/dri:/dev/dri
![The Zima Cube is... GOOD now? [ft. Zima Cube Pro]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7KKhgzVjtX8/mqdefault.jpg)
Just FYI, 任务 (ren wu) in Chinese means mission or operation, but in software/OS, it means "task" in English. 开始任务 (kai shi ren wu), is what Chinese software will say when it wants to start a task. So it gets lost in translation the task and mission.
This is super cool, thank you for the explanation!
Little quirks like this is one of my favorite things in software honestly. I know lots of people consider it a negative and lack of polish, etc, but I just think they're fun little quirks. And as long as they get the point across, who cares?
Is Hardware Haven...good?
No. Hardware Haven is amazing!
I KNEW this was coming. Haha
Bc of this many solutions out there (Synology, Qnap, TerraMaster, Ugreen, NoName-Things...) im glad i found my way with bare metal Debian, Docker Compose and DIY Stations. Much more flexible and easy to use
Me, too. It's cool and practical
As a hardware platform, this thing seems pretty nice
Synology is really the only completely locked-down NAS on your list. Everything else has an unlocked bootloader, meaning other OS’ can be installed instead.
Why doesn’t Terra-Master get the memo? They should ditch their in-house TOS and switch to something like UnRAID or even a TrueNAS backend (with maybe a TOS GUI and some other plugins) for enterprise NAS appliances.
We used to be able to buy SCSI or SATA disk cages that were 99% metal. The drive sleds were metal. The latches were metal. Never forget what they took from us.
Well, does it even matter, if it cools just fine?
10 USD a month for a 3rd party repo?!
Yep, this sucks.
Honestly if I try to install software and it ask me to pay to install more dependencies I'd just give up. But then again, I never used third party NAS software all I used is the terminal to deploy apps either using apt or docker.
@@kevinhu196 the website required to sign up to let you download something, at this step i would already quit the website xD
yeah I peaced out when I saw that fucking shit. fuck that.
I think an alternative OS would be more suited for this NAS.
TOS doesn't support full disk encryption, only folder encryption.
Folders cannot be decrypted, you would need to move files out. Encrypted folders still reveal files metadata. As mentioned in the video VirtualBox is outdated.
Software aside, I'd love to see how quickly the CPU gets to 98 degrees C once under load.
Honestly Terramaster has always been good. It’s the software that hasn’t been good. I’ve had one for about 2 years and the first thing I did was install TrueNAS and it was a $350 4 bay NAS
900$ for a 4 bay
For that money, i can take time off work, learn the entirety of how to build a NAS, build one myself, WITH DRIVES
and get solid Networking laid out
i would like to see you build a home NAS with USB4/TB4 ports, that can do 40gbe interdomain for less money....(hint you can't, there are no cheap motherboards that do that)
@scytob that's what add in cards are for...
@@tfkoincognito you cant add USB4 cards, there is no such thing unless the mobo has a TB4 header, they are super expensive
@@scytobYou CAN add USB4 cards and at least data transfer, power delivery, networking and PCIe tunnelling work, but there is NO hotplugging, which is the ENTIRE point of USB.
@@fujinshu only on motherboards with the right header, chipset and CPU features, you can't add USB4 cards beyond that, no adding USB4 is anything with just PCIE slots, they don't work. Also you don't seem to realize USB4 is not USB - its unbranded TB3/TB4 with USB3.2 tunneling over a routed protocol.
Nice video Colton. Thanks for your diligence and persistance in giving us this in depth review.
Good review, honest and intuitive checking all the "specs" testing boxes.
Definitely a OOF on price and lack of a few options. Seems they scrimped on a few things, then over compensated on others
The nice thing is they are listening and developing and seem willing to work with the homelabber community
I wonder what a community purpose built NAS would look like...this one comes close but falls short on some aspects
Keep em coming!!!!
Love the intros and jingle. Keep up the good work!
It feels like ready-made NAS systems are coming onto the market like smartphones.
They can almost all do the same thing, just with a different sticker and sometimes with a software lock.
This is the NAS the Chief Information Officer buys, configures, and installs in the CEOs home network.
Good to know they are now embracing third-party OSes and accessories rather than trying hard to restrict it. The old one had issues with third party of memory and had boot options hidden to prevent booting unless you completely remove the internal OS USB.
I haven't finished watching the video yet, but regarding the first question about having good/modern hardware to run plex or whatever, it couldn't be more true. I've been looking for a NAS that could tackle both "NAS" + "HomeLab" + Plex in a single package and I couldn't find any, at least not turnkey solution.
I was really really putting great expectation in the Asustor AS68XXT, and it seems to be incredible (still waiting for 3rd-party reviews off course), but being the "smallest" of the V3000 (in terms of cores even though base frequency is lower) and not having GPU for transcoding plex it's a deal breaker. Not to mention the price, but for everything it has, I think the premium price is justfied. 20 PCIe lanes, 4xnvme, 4-10x SATA, 2x 10gbps nic, 2x 2.5gbps nic, up to 64gb ECC memory. Just a little, really really little push and I can get my ideal NAS.
tl;dr; your channel is awesome and I'm a huge fan, thanks for the great work so far and NAS'ses are expensive (but probably worth it).
I've also been struggling to find the solution for NAS+HomeLab+Plex, and it's surprisingly elusive. It seems there is always something missing, either slow network, or limited RAM, or slow CPU, etc., or it's simply too expensive. The Aoostar WTR Pro seems like the best compromise so far for turnkey hardware, but it's not perfect.
hardware haven is the heaven of hardware
I bought a used supermicro with 12 hot-swap bays, 8 cores, and 32GB of ram for $200. Initial outlay was under $1000 for some seriously good performance.
And since it was standard components, a few years later I upgraded the motherboard (for another ~$200) to 20 cores/40 threads and 128GB of ram. Currently running 8 14TB drives in raid z2, and a couple 8TB drives for removable backup swapping.
And my data has survived multiple drive failures over the years.
No doubt that type of setup is an option and can be cheap to purchase, for most though, it's more performance than needed and the additional on-going electricity of a server grade motherboard and CPU isn't justified. Most home lab services (NAS, home assistant, plex/jellyfin, tailscale, etc) don't require a whole lot of CPU power. I've tried to convince myself I need more cores and memory, but when I do an honest analysis, I find I really don't.
@@timezonewall very valid points. I paid extra (~$150 vs 70) for my main switch (new mikrotik vs used data center), because the new one would pay for the difference in 3 months electricity use.
Can you make a DIY ITX NAS build one time? I’m curious if you can get hotswap and ecc memory for the same price as this TerraMaster.
It's nice to know that Terramaster is improving. I guess you either need to pay up to have what you want included or be willing to get your hands dirty. I almost always pick getting my hands dirty. Thanks!
You can't post this, I just bought the Aoostar WTR Pro because of you lol like literally minutes ago. Naw, great video as always. The Aoostar is in my budget and will get me by until I buy a 45 Drives HL8
WTR Pro is a way better deal
Aoostar is wasaaay better than this when you factor in the cost
The HL8 is nice, but I can't get past the price for the version with just a chassis and backplane. Seems at least double of what it should be. If cost is not a concern, then yea, get the fully built model.
Beem watching Hardware Haven for a while and to me, it seems like it's more fun to build your own NAS instead of buying one.
Yeah, I would think most fans of the channel would do that. BUT, an off the shelf device can be useful for a friend or family member who wants network storage in their house and you don't want to contantly provide tech support.
The compact size and relative power is very compelling
Yes, but any NAS system with an unlocked bootloader is great, since they come with other functionality that is often expensive, such as hot-swappable drives and Thunderbolt/USB4.
The Gridfinity files in the desktop tells me Colten is ready to get into a deeeeeep rabbit hole
I bought a TM F4-423 and run Debian/KVM/Docker/Samba on it. Its pretty great. My unit has a flaw, tho, no matter the O/S running on it... the network light flashes all the time, regardless of traffic. Kind of annoying.
Can someone link the 3D Printed HDD Cage at 0:04 ? Thanks
Got the F2-424, Booted Synology DiskStation Manager from another USB, and profited a lot.
Let's start the mission!
Great stuff, Colten.
Really nice video, thanks.
Thinking about getting this, but definitely going to run Proxmox on this for VMs and containers
At 05:25 I found that bios version on this unit is 5.26, july 2024.
At least, its later than microcode patch of may, however terramaster do not provide any information nor separate download for bios updates.
Intel releas microcodes often... at time of writing, microcodes released even at october 29th.
So... do Terramaster behave adequately as mainboard "reseller"?
I was not able to find any security advisory page on the support website. No bios information for F4-424 Max, and forum still lacks a security advisory section. For a company bringing to market both hardware and software well... not the best. Other brands do not provide bios updates, however security issues on the software are specifically reported on appropriate pages named for explaining "issues are there".
Oh boy. Only at 07:11 I was able to know that 10gbe adapters are.. Aquantia AQC113C. According to STH, this is a nice 4w 10Gbe chip, that can get actual 9.5gps transfer rate. It's not the best in class, but for the power consumption is a nice one. With the price of these boxes, network chips embedded are IMVHO worth... of talking about.
The USB connected to the motherboard already has TOS pre-installed on it, just needed to re-enable booting from it in Bios. Why did you re-install it again on another drive?
I can see why it's priced so high in comparison to... the 2-bay F2-212 I bought awhile ago. But I think that's for people who are more ambitious than I am. Originally, all I wanted was a simple RAID 1 setup, but when I started exploring what else I could do with the rest of the hardware, that's where they started shoving all sorts of stuff in
with that said, I'm still trying to find a 4-bay to jam my other spare drives in lol
This'll be a nice piece of kit when it goes on sale for $600-700. Also, the 6-bay version with same specs is only $100 more at $1k, so a better deal if you can use the extra bays.
in this setup need a LCD?like ubiquiti....or transfer over NFC or a cool stand?or adapter to rack mount it?
Thank you! Community apps requiring a subscription confirmed for me that I should stick with Unraid even if I buy a TerraMaster
maybe try increasing the black levels/exposure a bit?
on some angles (especially the top down desk one) over half the frame is just a black void/clipping, which doesn't look too good
Yes, and unfortunately no Reed white caching, which is very important when working with physical drives that still rotate.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the F4-424 (not the Pro or Max version...so...the "Plain"?) and how you think it compares to some of the other systems you mentioned. That's a system I've been considering for a first NAS.
I suspect this will make an awesome Blueiris NVR
Could you please make a video about the new Asustor Lockerstor Gen3? I know I know, they are expensive... But, from what I can tell, the specs are pretty amazing and in contrast to many other OEMs (like Terramaster here) they officially allow you to run your own OS. I would love to hear your oppinion on that bevor I buy one of these myself.
Cheers!
I don't know if this really is that expensive. I see that Synology DS923+ with the added 10 gbit nic cost about the same but that the Synology have weaker hardware and cost a lot more to expand.
I looking for something to replace my DS718+ that might be able to hold my needs for the coming 10 years or so. I do need to find a router that can feed this 10 gbit too. What options are there for that?
i love your channel i swear
Hey can you RAID1 the NVMe drives? (want to install proxmox and the VM OSs on SSD and passthrough all the spinning drives to a VM)
I've had a terramaster nas for a while now. First thing i did was replace their software with truenas. Perfect middle road
00:06 what is this? looks great
He did a video on it a few months back. Go look at his history. He actually made that tray.
@drakkon_sol thank you, I watch a bunch of his videos but I missed that one 😅
Great review, thanks! A bit too pricey for what it offers.
Start the mission 😎
the 12th gen is a good thing, 13/14th gen had all the issues
Why this show on my UA-cam Recommendation and i just subbed this channel
Cool
Makes my $900 zimacube pro 64 gb look great value.
hay HH, how was your day?
$900 for 0tb of storage?
i got 6x4tb drives for a 1/3 of what they're asking for
I'm not paying $900 for an empty chassis with space for only 4 disks. No way. That's about $600 too expensive for me. I'd rather buy something older at that point and modify it to my standards.
I mean.. I recently bought a 12-bay Synology RS2418+ for €500, and that even has 10Gbit SFP+ connections.
Thank you.
I want to give my mom a simple NAS solution without making her do all the dirty technical work… but I’m leaning towards Synology or some kind of brand that do make some off the shelf NAS so that way if my mom decides to expand and make herself a Jellyfin server, I don’t want her to be frustrated with permissions when she don’t want to spend any money just to get the services working.
Synology definitely have the most tech illiterate friendly off the shelf NAS devices, its more limited and you pay a hefty premium for it though but its what I would get my mom
Need the same NAS but 8 bay. But 900 is crack.
Basically i wish terramaster would just ship stock truenas scale and focus on good hardware for the price. I don't really want to run some weird os on my nas.
True. But I think they’re hoping to develop their software more and have a chance competing with Synology and have a more long-term plan basically
Hey Man, I think out of all the self-hosted/homelab UA-camrs you're the one who's got an AV background so why don't you do something on a DIY self-hosted whole room audio streaming setup using self-hosted solutions like LMS or Snapcast and on the cheap if possible.
hii i love your videos
5 + 2 for redundancy & a duplicate set for backup. So a rack mounted NAS with atleast 14 drive bays. Why 5 drives? you would get close to 100tb storage with upcoming HDDs. The redundancy is to give you enough time from vacation or what ever to swap in replacement HDDs.
They almost got the hardware right......
I'll put my vote towards four m.2 slots at Gen4x2. Unless you have a VM or Container running doing some crazy IO to the NVME, it is never going to saturate a Gen4x4.
At least they didn't put four m.2 slots all at different generations and lane counts.
And if only they had put at least one USB port on the front.... for easy backups.
Maybe they will bring out a six 3.5 bay and 4 m.2 device..... might have to sell someone's new born to the devil to be able to afford it though 🤪
19:24 😭😭😭
Was interested till you announced the price, ouch.
TerraMaster: hey chatgpt, we have dozens of extremely similar nas', what can we do to make them better
chatgpt: add some unique options that only attract the most edge use cases, and a price increase
TerraMaster: :thumbsup:
You should build a Pi NAS with Ceph or similar. Build a cluster so it is fully redundant. (Also VMWare has an EXSi ARM fling that works great on pi hardware. VCenter too and it’s godlike)
Your transcode issue was likely an issue with intel kernel driver. The SSS boot drive issue was 100% your issue, it was an unreasonable expectation to use a drive that you put OS for SSD caching. Also the drives appearing 4 USB drives is reasonable, you were doing USB…
No way this is worth $800. Max $600
Can I send you some server GPU’s?
If I become a user of TOS, does that make me a TOSSER?
3:28 could have been worse 🍎
The single dev is a nightmare to deal with. Very vindictive and dismissive, deletes any feedback or suggestions.
17:46 I have also STRUGGLED to get jellyfin working. After tonnes of research within their forums I got mine to work, but after a week it needs to be restarted (won't let anyone stream anything, crazy error messages).
If someone else could make Docker for idiots, so we can bypass the dev's half-baked mess, that'd be great.
What is the fascination with transcoding... Just use devices that have no need of it!
If you use Jellyfin in the web-browser it needs to transcode h265 media in real time to H264 or something a browser can use. I have jellyfin on a raspberry pi and that can't decode h265 to h264 on the fly.
For me, it is too expensive and TOS is bad if you want more than smb shares. then better keep my old fractal design define r5 with i5-8400 and unraid
Download limit is gross
Synology "rock solid"? Weren't a strangely large number of people losing arrays from single drive failures 2-3 years ago?
Isn't this a repeat?
Unraid would be so much better than TOS
At that price this is ridiculous
My QNAP 4-bay NAS that I bought in 2018 was cheaper than this.
Granted, it doesn't have any NVMe slots, only has dual 1 GbE NICs and also has a Celeron J3455 in it and RAM tops out at 8 GB, but for what it is, it works.
At almost $900, this is way overpriced.
big master
big master
I'll tell you a story you wont read on Amazon, etc because they would most likely delete my story. It took my 3 days to realize: behind a great hardware for a price for NAS stands full of flaws TOS 6.X and all its embeeded apps. Copying the 3TB to external drive - failed without clear log stating whats going on. Trying to backup my 350GB OneDrive stucks (fails) in the middle with no clear log on whats going on and possibility to restart it. Survivelance does not work while it worked flawlessly on my previous NAS. Flaws, flaws, flaws even on the level of pure copy of the data to external hdd or running things in parallel. Thus, unless you unraid it (but thats additional cost unless you bought (or download) a license for it) this is extremely unrealiable piece of hardware/software. Shame for Terramaster to deliver such product with so many flaws in their software. Risk of getting your data lost is incredible.
At least the power button isn't on the bottom.
15:47 this is weird...
16:28 that not the typical 1 or 2 hour time to wait, it's literraly 4 day O _ o wtf
you cant even donwload without account...
and i dont know what they do more that "required" to sub for 10$/months, that are pretty expensive, a donate button why not, but 10$/month for litteraly "free open app"
nice video, and thanks to point out this "community website"
TOS is bad. Your issues with permissions and the super old ffmpeg are the clues. Clearly they did not test this too much, they just put it out there.
TerraMaster's case design is so ugly and look so cheap, I don't want to have it just due to aesthetic reasons despite any specs. And that HUGE logo embedded in the cheap plastic is just tasteless. As if the person that designed it never heard about design as discipline.
...and all that blah plastic is $900.
It would be nice to have a reviewer who wasn't given a free product.
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great chinese spy device
for transcoding in jellyfin docker containers you need to expose /dev/dri (at least for amd and intel, nvidia is a bit different)
devices:
- /dev/dri:/dev/dri