Thanks for unlocking this whole world for me! I've been wanting to do this for about 3 years and never figured out how until your conditional card video cracked the whole case for me!
You mentioned to let you know in the comments if we'd like to see a video on your tablet dashboards, so: Yes! Please please please do a video on tablet dashboards!
Like you I saw Reed's video on the dashboards and decided to do it. I made one for my phone then I just duplicated it for my wife. She then told me what she like, wanted, and didn't want. I just tweek hers for her requests and we both have the dashboard we want. Also, by her having me make adjustments to her dashboard, I no longer get the annoyed wife saying were do I go for this or that.
Recently did this for my home assistant setup and love it. Added tones of entities in visibility as an ‘or’ to speed up dashboards changing. Super easy to control things in the room your in even when majority of the time spent in automating means most things just work without manual interaction.
Always been a bit too scared to mess with my dashboard but this looks super manageable! I'll have to give it a go this weekend, thanks for the inspiration.
I've been toying with completely redoing my dashboard now there have been improvements like this made. I had not really done a lot sicne Lovelace was introduced as it did what I needed, and there hadn't been huge improvements to the dashboards until recently. You made this all look pretty easy, and I mighttake the plunge and redo my dashboard now.
Reed's video really inspired everyone, didn't it 😅 I don't yet have BLE presence detection working reliably yet, so one of the things I added to my own take on this project was a set of three buttons at the top under the room selector that would quickly switch it to Auto, the computer room, or my bedroom. It's been quite useful in the interim at the very least to check and adjust rooms I'm not yet in, and I suspect that I might keep them even once I get tracking working more reliably.
This was so awesome two questions. 1/ What card did you use to get the access back to the the "Home "(lovelace) dashboard 2/ Is there a way to avoid selecting the "title>navigate>tap action" process and have the dashboard just pop up straight from either walking in the room (ie Auto - once BT presence is triggered) or straight from selecting the room manually via the drop down menu of the helper? Thanks!
This is amazing! I saw this on Reed's channel too and was blown away. I'm still tweaking which devices we want to see on which dashboards (that's me and my wife) and I'll probably nick a couple of your ideas. I've also used espresence based room presence as the basis for an Alexa voice command we can use if we leave our phone in a room and can't remember which room it's in. "Alexa, where did you last see my phone?" Sort of thing. This runs a script in Home Assistant that announces which room the phone is in. Works really well. I'm still having teething problems getting consistent room presence from each espresence device as we have a modern timber frame structure house with internal stud walls. Just when I think I've got all the absorption and max distance setings sorted it throws up something bizarre. It's about 90% there.
Is there anyway to base the presence on the "currently used device" rather than hardcoding a specific device? I'd like to have a single dash that can be used by anyone in the family and not have to maintain a custom dash for each person.
haha I'm crazy about conditionals as well. I use them everywhere. Wait until you figure out dropdown menus and conditionals, extremely handy for quickly seeing only the cards you need that are situational and harder to automate. e.g. A drop down menu to select media player sources, which are shown on the condition the correct menu selection is made and hides them when you choose something else. Or a conditional dropdown that shows for only each person their own calendar, todo, notes, etc when each is selected from a dropdown. Another very useful application of conditionals are conditional chips. I have utility ones that show when any sensors' batteries are low as well as low stock alerts, for air quality, temperature, uv index that change colour according to their values, and fun ones that come up only on holidays which also work as a button to trigger lights to do something special and in theme.
This is awesome. I have one question though... What kind of card do you use to show the position of family members - a mushroom person card or something. I can't seem to figure out anything but home or away.
at 1:17 you walk into a dark room. you could make an automation that automatically turns on the lights not when the sensor detects you (which obviously takes some time) but as soon as the door opens, if the lights in the first room are on. then you can use the sensors to decide which lights to turn off. just an idea. 2:23 actually, i subscribed to BOTH his channels.
I don't use a lot of door sensors in my house as I'm trying to move away from battery powered devices, but that's a great idea! I also subscribe to both his channels 😁
Great video; Thanks for sharing. Your last remarks about the setup for each individual user, made me wonder if introducing a separate variable for the user, would make things more flexible?
Possibly, but I find that creating another dashboard is more flexible and easier to maintain, as it lets my partner have a totally customised dashboard for what they think is most important to them for each room.
Great job on this video Alan. I'm not yet ready for a full implementation of this, but nevertheless, I got a lot of ideas. Thanks for all your efforts here.
Great video. I'm a little confused on the chip cards only showing when they have the right state. Do you just do a horizontal stack and lists each individual chip card? Update: Nevermind, I found it. When you click "Add Chip" it has a "Conditional" option.
Awesome video, I love using conditional cards. What wall mounted screen are you using for HA? It appears to be the perfect size I’ve been looking for. 1:30
It's a T6E panel, but I believe they're no longer as easy to hack as they used to be. Check out the Sonoff NSPanel, it might be what you're looking for.
This really does feel like magic, just added 5 BLE beacons to my setup. What type of card showed the individual people and their locations at the top of your dashboard?
I'd love to make better use of my Nest Home Hub. I'd like to see what you've been working on. Google Home speakers are the most useless tech I have in my house. The only time I really use them is when my kids ask me a question, then I turn to Google Home and ask the same question. 8) What I really want to find is if someone has written a guide to build a HA version of the Google Home Max. I'd love to build my own speaker using a local voice assistant, but with a good speaker. Alternatively if someone has built this into a whole-home-audio system I'd be interested in that too.
Hi great video now have all this working, the only issue i have is that i cannot add the bluetooth sensor to the person did you have add this through yaml
I'm curious the developer's logic used when room changes based on RSSI. For fun, with the help of CoPilot, I had Node Red calculate a running average of the last 6 RSSI values from each room and assign the room based on the largest average RSSI value. In limited testing, it seems to react quicker and also doesn't blip from one room to another and back to 1st like original integration does sometimes while moving.
I'm toying with the use of conditions to mimic "collapsible" sections in a dashboard page, for instance for scene selections for lights: a button card is mapped to a binary on/off helper, when taping the button, a grid with the full selection of scenes is displayed or hidden.
Superb job on the dashboard and video. Really nice. Was Barney chewing on a shoe? Cute, but those puppy teething time!! P.S. You should take look at the HA Dashboard Chapter 2 video from mid last week. Many of your Sections suggestions are coming, plus a new header button/chip card coming in the 24.8 release.
Yes, he was chewing on a shoe. I left him to it because it meant he stayed still long enough for me to film the opening sequence to the video without him annoying me... plus it was my wife's shoe. I recently caught up with the new dashboard changes and they are indeed looking awesome! I think we'll be waiting a bit longer before the header badges/chips are available inside sections - but I strongly support all the development they are doing and improvements they are making!
I really want to do this but I am the ultra noob when it comes to building dashboards. How do you build the rooms you "navigate to"? When I start to build a card I have nothing to "navigate to". So I really need an ultra noob tutorial on building the individual room cards. Any ideas where I can look for that? *** going to watch the video from the beginning, perhaps i missed something ***
Is there any way to have strings for the profile/username in the YAML, so that you don't have to duplicate all of that in their entirety, edited for each user profile? Just have the user profile as a string in the YAML, and only needing one copy of the My Home Dashboard?
Instead of having to create a new dashboard for each user, can't you use which user is currently connected, and use a variable to change "Alan's location" to "User location" ?
@@DanMalone72 or you could use a template like {% set userLocation= states(userLocationSensor') | string %} {% if is_state('userLocation', 'bedroom') %}
What is de condition for the doorbell? As unifi rapidly fires an "off" event after a person detection. So it display for less then 1 sec on the dashboard
I have a helper called "person at front door", and an automation that turns it on IF the doorbell detects a person OR the doorbell is pressed. The automation then turns it off again after 1 minute
As I'm implimenting the dropdown feature myself (already had the conditionals), it occurred to me a good feauture would be that if the dropdown hasn't been updated for x minutes (1 hour?) reset it to Auto.
Setting the entity_id of the service call to "{{ trigger.entity_id }}" would allow you to specify multiple dropdowns without having to write conditionals for each one. We'll see how youtube handles the YAML (minimized code for example only, don't copy paste as it likely will fail). trigger: - platform: state entity_id: - input_select.room_view_selection_ahren - input_select.room_view_selection_julsey for: hours: 1 action: - service: input_select.select_option data: option: Auto target: entity_id: "{{ trigger.entity_id }}"
I made one more update as well. To reset the selection to Auto if my Room changes to the current room I have selected for 5 minutes using a template trigger. {{ states("sensor.ahren_detailed_location")| lower == states("input_select.room_view_selection_ahren")| lower}}
Assumption (based on entirely not enough data): your dog is utterly bored, you need to play with it much more. That way it won't eat your shoes or won't do other shenanigans (in another video you said you need to be aware if your dog suddenly is silent).
If you wanted to not have to duplicate the dashboard for each person you could create the two drop-downs and show the relevant I've based on which user is viewing. Then set visibility conditions on room cards to something like: User 1 viewing and user 1 location and user 1 drop-down = Auto Or user 1 viewing and user one drop-down set to room Or User 2 viewing and user 2 location and user 2 drop-down = Auto Or user 2 viewing and user one drop-down set to room
I think it's a novel concept, but I'm not sure how reliable it would be. It occurs to me that this is simply a crutch for a poorly designed dashboard to begin with. But maybe that's just me? I've put a LOT of work into making my dashboard, so I never felt any pain when naviging it, and never EVER have to use the view bar at the top.
I’ve been watching your channel for quite some time now and have found each and everyone really interesting and well edited. I currently use SmartThings and Alexa but I’m really interested in dabbling with HA for its local control greater functionality. Ultimately fully implementation into HA. As I will class myself as a HA newbie is there any literature or channels that you could recommend as a “dummies guide” please as I rate your knowledge priceless. Keep up the great work and thank you for any help you can supply.
Magic! 🪄 It measures the Bluetooth signal strength between the BLE device (my phone) and the tracker (ESPHome) to determine which tracker it's closest to and then assumes that you're in that room. If you position your devices well it works quite effectively. It took a bit of trial and error for me
Soooo ... that room selector is global I could find a workaround with the hard-coded "user location" based on the user device owner, but not for this ... this will trigger some epic dashboard fight with kid or "adult" XD
I create a new selector for each persons dashboard, and don't expose places to change it unless needed. But if you've taught your kids how to find these themselves, then I think you have done well as a parent!
@@HomeAutomationGuy the esphome blentracker has a hard time tracking ios devices. Esprecense solves this somewhat with enrollment of devices but can’t find any way to solve this (except for another app on the phone)
Thanks for the shout out! You have some good ideas like the doorbell feed only showing when it needs to. Great job!
Thanks for unlocking this whole world for me! I've been wanting to do this for about 3 years and never figured out how until your conditional card video cracked the whole case for me!
I have implemented similar to this because of your video, @SmartHomeSolver
You mentioned to let you know in the comments if we'd like to see a video on your tablet dashboards, so: Yes! Please please please do a video on tablet dashboards!
Definitely a yes to seeing this and more videos on conditional cards in different scenerios
Like you I saw Reed's video on the dashboards and decided to do it. I made one for my phone then I just duplicated it for my wife. She then told me what she like, wanted, and didn't want. I just tweek hers for her requests and we both have the dashboard we want. Also, by her having me make adjustments to her dashboard, I no longer get the annoyed wife saying were do I go for this or that.
I did something very similar in our house!
Recently did this for my home assistant setup and love it. Added tones of entities in visibility as an ‘or’ to speed up dashboards changing. Super easy to control things in the room your in even when majority of the time spent in automating means most things just work without manual interaction.
Always been a bit too scared to mess with my dashboard but this looks super manageable!
I'll have to give it a go this weekend, thanks for the inspiration.
Have fun! It's fun to tweak and fiddle with them until they're juuuuust right
I've been toying with completely redoing my dashboard now there have been improvements like this made. I had not really done a lot sicne Lovelace was introduced as it did what I needed, and there hadn't been huge improvements to the dashboards until recently.
You made this all look pretty easy, and I mighttake the plunge and redo my dashboard now.
It's a journey! Enjoy it
While I have followed Reed for a while, you have helped me far more with HA, Docker-Compose, Portainer, et al.
Thank you!
Saw Reed's video on this a few weeks ago and got a basic proof of concept running, thanks for motivating me to return to it.
Reed's video really inspired everyone, didn't it 😅
I don't yet have BLE presence detection working reliably yet, so one of the things I added to my own take on this project was a set of three buttons at the top under the room selector that would quickly switch it to Auto, the computer room, or my bedroom. It's been quite useful in the interim at the very least to check and adjust rooms I'm not yet in, and I suspect that I might keep them even once I get tracking working more reliably.
Very clever way to simplify what is seen on the dashboards.
Absolutely genius! Love the design and the conditional dashboard.
Thank you very much!
This was so awesome two questions. 1/ What card did you use to get the access back to the the "Home "(lovelace) dashboard 2/ Is there a way to avoid selecting the "title>navigate>tap action" process and have the dashboard just pop up straight from either walking in the room (ie Auto - once BT presence is triggered) or straight from selecting the room manually via the drop down menu of the helper? Thanks!
This is amazing! I saw this on Reed's channel too and was blown away. I'm still tweaking which devices we want to see on which dashboards (that's me and my wife) and I'll probably nick a couple of your ideas. I've also used espresence based room presence as the basis for an Alexa voice command we can use if we leave our phone in a room and can't remember which room it's in. "Alexa, where did you last see my phone?" Sort of thing. This runs a script in Home Assistant that announces which room the phone is in. Works really well. I'm still having teething problems getting consistent room presence from each espresence device as we have a modern timber frame structure house with internal stud walls. Just when I think I've got all the absorption and max distance setings sorted it throws up something bizarre. It's about 90% there.
Is there anyway to base the presence on the "currently used device" rather than hardcoding a specific device? I'd like to have a single dash that can be used by anyone in the family and not have to maintain a custom dash for each person.
Yes, my friend, please make a video for your other dashboards. Thanks for your patient. 🤗
haha I'm crazy about conditionals as well. I use them everywhere. Wait until you figure out dropdown menus and conditionals, extremely handy for quickly seeing only the cards you need that are situational and harder to automate.
e.g. A drop down menu to select media player sources, which are shown on the condition the correct menu selection is made and hides them when you choose something else. Or a conditional dropdown that shows for only each person their own calendar, todo, notes, etc when each is selected from a dropdown.
Another very useful application of conditionals are conditional chips. I have utility ones that show when any sensors' batteries are low as well as low stock alerts, for air quality, temperature, uv index that change colour according to their values, and fun ones that come up only on holidays which also work as a button to trigger lights to do something special and in theme.
Down the rabbithole we go!
This is awesome. I have one question though... What kind of card do you use to show the position of family members - a mushroom person card or something. I can't seem to figure out anything but home or away.
at 1:17 you walk into a dark room. you could make an automation that automatically turns on the lights not when the sensor detects you (which obviously takes some time) but as soon as the door opens, if the lights in the first room are on. then you can use the sensors to decide which lights to turn off. just an idea.
2:23 actually, i subscribed to BOTH his channels.
I don't use a lot of door sensors in my house as I'm trying to move away from battery powered devices, but that's a great idea!
I also subscribe to both his channels 😁
Great video; Thanks for sharing.
Your last remarks about the setup for each individual user, made me wonder if introducing a separate variable for the user, would make things more flexible?
Possibly, but I find that creating another dashboard is more flexible and easier to maintain, as it lets my partner have a totally customised dashboard for what they think is most important to them for each room.
Great job on this video Alan. I'm not yet ready for a full implementation of this, but nevertheless, I got a lot of ideas. Thanks for all your efforts here.
Great video as always would love to see the tablet dashboards
Great video. I'm a little confused on the chip cards only showing when they have the right state. Do you just do a horizontal stack and lists each individual chip card?
Update: Nevermind, I found it. When you click "Add Chip" it has a "Conditional" option.
Awesome video and great you gave a shout out to Reed.
Honestly, I've been wanting to do this for years but was never smart enough to figure it out. He cracked it for me!
Super awesome! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you so much for your support 🙏💕
Thanks for this, it does look really cool. I will certainly give it a try.
Awesome video, I love using conditional cards. What wall mounted screen are you using for HA? It appears to be the perfect size I’ve been looking for. 1:30
It's a T6E panel, but I believe they're no longer as easy to hack as they used to be. Check out the Sonoff NSPanel, it might be what you're looking for.
Keep them coming, great content, well done!
Thank you!
This really does feel like magic, just added 5 BLE beacons to my setup. What type of card showed the individual people and their locations at the top of your dashboard?
It's a Mushroom Entity card
I'd love to make better use of my Nest Home Hub. I'd like to see what you've been working on. Google Home speakers are the most useless tech I have in my house. The only time I really use them is when my kids ask me a question, then I turn to Google Home and ask the same question. 8) What I really want to find is if someone has written a guide to build a HA version of the Google Home Max. I'd love to build my own speaker using a local voice assistant, but with a good speaker. Alternatively if someone has built this into a whole-home-audio system I'd be interested in that too.
Hi great video now have all this working, the only issue i have is that i cannot add the bluetooth sensor to the person did you have add this through yaml
I'm curious the developer's logic used when room changes based on RSSI. For fun, with the help of CoPilot, I had Node Red calculate a running average of the last 6 RSSI values from each room and assign the room based on the largest average RSSI value. In limited testing, it seems to react quicker and also doesn't blip from one room to another and back to 1st like original integration does sometimes while moving.
Interested in what tablets you've opted for
I'm toying with the use of conditions to mimic "collapsible" sections in a dashboard page, for instance for scene selections for lights: a button card is mapped to a binary on/off helper, when taping the button, a grid with the full selection of scenes is displayed or hidden.
Superb job on the dashboard and video. Really nice.
Was Barney chewing on a shoe? Cute, but those puppy teething time!!
P.S. You should take look at the HA Dashboard Chapter 2 video from mid last week. Many of your Sections suggestions are coming, plus a new header button/chip card coming in the 24.8 release.
Yes, he was chewing on a shoe. I left him to it because it meant he stayed still long enough for me to film the opening sequence to the video without him annoying me... plus it was my wife's shoe.
I recently caught up with the new dashboard changes and they are indeed looking awesome! I think we'll be waiting a bit longer before the header badges/chips are available inside sections - but I strongly support all the development they are doing and improvements they are making!
I really want to do this but I am the ultra noob when it comes to building dashboards. How do you build the rooms you "navigate to"? When I start to build a card I have nothing to "navigate to". So I really need an ultra noob tutorial on building the individual room cards. Any ideas where I can look for that?
*** going to watch the video from the beginning, perhaps i missed something ***
How did you manage to turn on / wake your PC from hibernation via Home Assistant?
Is there any way to have strings for the profile/username in the YAML, so that you don't have to duplicate all of that in their entirety, edited for each user profile? Just have the user profile as a string in the YAML, and only needing one copy of the My Home Dashboard?
Instead of having to create a new dashboard for each user, can't you use which user is currently connected, and use a variable to change "Alan's location" to "User location" ?
If you figure out how to add a variable to a dashboard, let me know! I haven't figured it out 🙈
@@HomeAutomationGuyis a helper / drop-down state something you could use?
@@DanMalone72 or you could use a template like
{% set userLocation= states(userLocationSensor') | string %}
{% if is_state('userLocation', 'bedroom') %}
Yes there's a user condition (opposed to entity) in the conditions section. Just made a separate comment with the logic before seeing this comment. 🙂
What is de condition for the doorbell? As unifi rapidly fires an "off" event after a person detection. So it display for less then 1 sec on the dashboard
I have a helper called "person at front door", and an automation that turns it on IF the doorbell detects a person OR the doorbell is pressed. The automation then turns it off again after 1 minute
This is really cool
Thanks!
As I'm implimenting the dropdown feature myself (already had the conditionals), it occurred to me a good feauture would be that if the dropdown hasn't been updated for x minutes (1 hour?) reset it to Auto.
Setting the entity_id of the service call to "{{ trigger.entity_id }}" would allow you to specify multiple dropdowns without having to write conditionals for each one. We'll see how youtube handles the YAML (minimized code for example only, don't copy paste as it likely will fail).
trigger:
- platform: state
entity_id:
- input_select.room_view_selection_ahren
- input_select.room_view_selection_julsey
for:
hours: 1
action:
- service: input_select.select_option
data:
option: Auto
target:
entity_id: "{{ trigger.entity_id }}"
This is a really good idea!
I made one more update as well. To reset the selection to Auto if my Room changes to the current room I have selected for 5 minutes using a template trigger.
{{ states("sensor.ahren_detailed_location")| lower == states("input_select.room_view_selection_ahren")| lower}}
@@AhrenBaderJarvis That's cool!
Assumption (based on entirely not enough data): your dog is utterly bored, you need to play with it much more. That way it won't eat your shoes or won't do other shenanigans (in another video you said you need to be aware if your dog suddenly is silent).
If you wanted to not have to duplicate the dashboard for each person you could create the two drop-downs and show the relevant I've based on which user is viewing. Then set visibility conditions on room cards to something like:
User 1 viewing and user 1 location and user 1 drop-down = Auto
Or user 1 viewing and user one drop-down set to room
Or User 2 viewing and user 2 location and user 2 drop-down = Auto
Or user 2 viewing and user one drop-down set to room
Just tried this and it works great!
@@jko_23 awesome! I'm glad to hear it worked out as I hadn't tested it myself. 😝
This is cool!
I think it's a novel concept, but I'm not sure how reliable it would be. It occurs to me that this is simply a crutch for a poorly designed dashboard to begin with. But maybe that's just me? I've put a LOT of work into making my dashboard, so I never felt any pain when naviging it, and never EVER have to use the view bar at the top.
Could be!
what are you using for tracking the dogs location? lol
Check out my room presence video, it shows it in more detail
More dashboard videos!
Do you have a link to the tracker you used for your dog?
Yes. It's in the article linked in the description
@@HomeAutomationGuy I don't see an article in the description
@@thebrentfamily7602 Sorry! www.homeautomationguy.io/blog/room-location-detection-with-format-ble-tracker-and-home-assistant
How do you track which room the dog is in
Check out my previous video about room based location detection. I explain it in that one in a lot of detail
I’ve been watching your channel for quite some time now and have found each and everyone really interesting and well edited. I currently use SmartThings and Alexa but I’m really interested in dabbling with HA for its local control greater functionality. Ultimately fully implementation into HA. As I will class myself as a HA newbie is there any literature or channels that you could recommend as a “dummies guide” please as I rate your knowledge priceless. Keep up the great work and thank you for any help you can supply.
It’s not clear how the system determines the position of the device in the rooms?
Magic! 🪄
It measures the Bluetooth signal strength between the BLE device (my phone) and the tracker (ESPHome) to determine which tracker it's closest to and then assumes that you're in that room.
If you position your devices well it works quite effectively. It took a bit of trial and error for me
😂 what do you use as ble trackers?
Thanks
Thank you so much 🙏 I really appreciate the support ♥️
wow - that screen is maffoooooosiv!!!!!! How many inch!?!?!
49"
@@HomeAutomationGuy never nice!!! And now I'm very tempted!!! 😁😂😁 A bit big too hide from the wife though. Hummmmmm
If I read it correctly, the gap in the sections dashboards is fixed in the next version of Home Assistant.
I believe so, yes!
Has anyone managed to get this working on an iPhone?
Soooo ... that room selector is global
I could find a workaround with the hard-coded "user location" based on the user device owner, but not for this ... this will trigger some epic dashboard fight with kid or "adult" XD
I create a new selector for each persons dashboard, and don't expose places to change it unless needed.
But if you've taught your kids how to find these themselves, then I think you have done well as a parent!
It’s best not to be looking at your phone as you are walking down the stairs.
Fact.
Sadly not for iPhones =/
Why is that?
@@HomeAutomationGuy the esphome blentracker has a hard time tracking ios devices. Esprecense solves this somewhat with enrollment of devices but can’t find any way to solve this (except for another app on the phone)