@Ray Leigh The National Security Law for HK was absolutely necessary to restore peace and stability broken by the youngsters rioters. You think America doesn't have National Security Law?
It not to late work . appreciate the one country and two system and work together with your sister brother to get the share and boost your economi your people will hv better life. You just like Singapore no resources and no military all surrounded by your sister and brother. Put all the traitors in jail. Your garmoment hv to work fast too slow. You hv lost your financial hub. Look at Singapore still maintain financial hup .
No, HK has been on the decline for years now. The instability and economic isolation of 2019 and 2020 may have accelerated this, but in the end it was the laissez-faire Capitalist system primarily driven by an unsustainable real-estate industry, and the self-serving, short-sighted wealthy elite ruling over the city that caused its decline. It also didn't help that instead of accepting further integration and economic assistance from the central government, Hong Kongers maintained a xenophobic, localist mentality towards any mainland interventions (a carryover from their British colonial era) and instead of adapting to a changing China, they stuck to their failing economic system. In the end though, a small one-time fishing village will never outpace the greater Chinese economy forever, no matter what rose-tinted nostalgia glasses Hong Kong elitists wear.
@Ray Leigh Security law was to STOP CIA infiltration in HK youth. China shouldn't HELP HK because HK isn't China. HK is independent. All China can provide is Security and Rule of Law. Everything else is up the HK and it's people.
This was bound to happen sooner or later. Hong Kong’s advantage was their port, then their relaxed laws welcoming financial investing. But as we can see from financial markets, the real drivers is technology. This is where Hong Kong is falling behind. China’s government is pumping so much money into research, it’s almost impossible for Hong Kong to maintain their competitive advantage. Their status as a financial sanctuary is also in doubt. Most of my friends lost their jobs because investors pulled out. This was before Covid.
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again? Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons. China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years. Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again. However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together. Why? Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING. Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them. Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich. SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them. As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese. Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world. Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule. Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control. In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world. -Thomas Lee www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa Discussing Hong Kong, Politics, Propaganda, Brainwashing, Media & Coronavirus With Dan Cohen ua-cam.com/video/trvrMWXM16o/v-deo.html
I feel PRC doesn't want HK to be great. It is like the lost child that came back after it has grown up as a teen. Resources were all poured into Shenzhen.
@@choonkeonglim6178 yes why would Chinese want HK to be great again and what was the definition of great. Is it so great while poor - lower average people in HK live in cage home or nano apartment and hk held as no. 1 Asian international financial city.
The only competitive edge of HK has always been its role as the trading channel to the vast Chinese public. Now that it’s possible to invest directly in the mainland, HK is just another Chinese city but with higher housing prices and stricter migrant worker policy. The only pro of HK is basically the freedom politically, which has proven to be an overrated quality in the past few yrs
HK was the lucky middle man back in the 80s and 90s while shenzhen was still in early development and China began to open up to the market. This was all temporary and have nothing to do with the Brit. Even at the height of HK prosperity, only the capitalists in HK were rich, the majority of the population remained poor. The Brit thought democracy would be wrong for HK. For entire time HK under British rule, there was not a hint of democracy.
It also has the advantage of being a visa-free zone for most advanced countries. This makes it easier to do business with Hong Kong. Hopefully at some point China will have that policy as well.
Shenzhen is much more modern than Hong Kong, if you've been to both cities you should know. Hong Kong is full of third-world looking apartment buildings, for a supposed rich city it looks very bad.
Xi clearly said that China will be less tight with Shenzhen but more tight with HK... the value of HK was it has both tie with China and Western, similar to singapore, except singapore is closer with western but HK is closer to China... China is fine that HK has close tie with western as long as it remain closer to China, that was their bottom line, until balance broken in 2019 when Hkers try to make HK closer to western... So China is now using Macau Shenzhen Hainan as alternative of HK
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again? Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons. China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years. Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again. However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together. Why? Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING. Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them. Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich. SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them. As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese. Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world. Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule. Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control. In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world. -Thomas Lee www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa Discussing Hong Kong, Politics, Propaganda, Brainwashing, Media & Coronavirus With Dan Cohen ua-cam.com/video/trvrMWXM16o/v-deo.html
@@tanyeweestudent6856 i am from singapore too, studying in HCI a levels. I think you are only partially right, our government is aligned closer to Westerners, while citizens aligned closer to China.
@@corruptslayer3745 Citizens more aligned to China what drugs are you on? The people of Singapore are mostly descended from immigrants that came to Singapore during the Qing Dynasty or the Republic of China when it still controlled the mainland before retreating to Taiwan. The PRC is not your ancestral homeland not after they took over in 1949, the lands where your forefathers came from is current day ROC or better known as Taiwan.
Shen Zhen is already surpassing Ameriscum silicone valley long shot due too many junkies, addict, poors, homeless, racist trouble makers, corrupt politicians, falling infractures, debtbeat and debt in San Jose, California and Ameriscum, so that no way can do better than communist China one.
Danny Kwan Until the National Security Law, Hong Kong was the Mainland center of individualism and creativity. Now Hong Kong has been stifled. 😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
But ShenZhen is a 12.5 million population with 396 billion USD GDP compared with HongKong’s 7.4million population with 362 billion USD GDP.. I think Hong Kong is doing really well with 40% less people than ShenZhen.
@@ditsygirl5409 Yeah and for 100 years Hong Kong has been the number 1 financial hub in the region with its historical rivals (Guangzhou and Shanghai) gone overnight after 1949. Millions of Chinese fleeing the communists, poured into HK after 1949. If you want to blame anyone, blame Hongkongers for not adapting and being competitive in the new globalized capitalist market.
@@ditsygirl5409 Hong Kong's economy has been stagnant for years without any signs of growth. While Shenzhen's economy has been growing exponentially for 40 years and will only continue to grow as the backbone of the massively funded investments from the greater bay area project. Hong Kong is a has-been now.
@@leethal59 but Shenzhen is not as productive as Hong Kong in terms of gdp per capita. It’s not fair to compare these 2 cities like that. I hope that you guys be patient and claim your spot when you have beaten HK by gdp per capita. That is the only way you guys can claim superiority to beat them one on one, if not you guys are just winning because you have more people that’s all.
Hongkong: we want to earn as much money from mainland we can. Also Hongkong: we want to stay away from mainland as much as possible. Mainlander: ok let's invest inShenzhen instead. Hongkong: why are we losing?
what a futuristic looking city, this is the first time I see of Shenzen . I swear chinese megacities are very underrated but thats probably because china is a secretive country. I really respect and admire China
Chinese is not secretive country. Everyone can visit ,stay, apply for work and even live there. Actually many young inteligent women of Westen democracy love living and working in China. Very importantly, the Chinese women have more rights than your kind of blondies in any democracy, especially in USA.
@India Raj well do you comment with your fact based on the western or not? because the western tried to lie their way in with ten thousands victims narrative, if you dont spread like those, then it will be fine to debate
@India Raj imagine walking into someones house, they accomadate you and you tunr around to insult them, thats what youre doing. A social credit system is not made to last in the long run, from a peasant background to a superpower, certain habits of rural backwardsness needs to be changed
Shenzhen has been rolling out some impressive incentives for highly educated scientists and professionals - sometimes *$100,000 - $300,000+* for talents just to _start their career in the city_ (I have post-doc friends who are applying). HK might still be the financial hub of Asia, but it would struggle to compete in terms of tech startups due to the insane housing prices & living costs.
When u financialise an economy, it’s d road to perdition. Economy must always b based on real things like manufacturing, tech etc, not just shifting money around.
This was always going to happen. China is going to forge ahead regardless of critcs and will sweep aside self-destructive HK protestors. It will never allow itself be bullied and humiliated by foreign powers (British, American, European and Japanese) ever again, as it was in much of the 19th and 20th centuries.
Electricity is not from China. btw HK People does not want to use water supply from china because it too expansive. They want to use the water from the seawater desalination plant. But china want that income from HK, so china supply water to HK.
@@TTKT236 Some commons sense plz, desalinated water is much more expensive, in 1985 more than 50% of water supply in HK already came from mainland, in 1991 it became 80%.
HK was always meant to be integrated in the Greater Bay Area project. The situation there just needs to stabilize first. Once the foreign fuelled anti-Chinese separatist frenzy dies down and the HK youth realise that the mainland is not the big bad wolf, then they'll be able to take advantage of the opportunities to come, which is exactly what they need.
Hong Kong's obsolescence, while inevitable, was expedited by the very rioters who claimed to be helping further their own city. They have no one to blame but themselves.
20 years ago, any mainland women would marry a man from HKG without hesitation and without even seeing the man. Today, mainland women’s don’t see anything special anymore. Some been shun those from HKG.
If you can have better living standards in the mainland then it is a fair game for both guys either Hong Kong or mainland while trying to court a bride.
The root of the problem in Hong Kong is their education system, and the ability to mass produce little rioters. btw, isn't opting out of the Greater Bay development one of the key aims for the anti-China rioters in Hong Kong?
@Lucas muller well, that’s not 100% true when you talking about voting. It’s interesting that so called communism focus on economy while capitalism is on politics.
Hong Kong and Shenzhen does two different things. Hong Kong is an international hub, while Shenzhen is a SIlicon Valley equivalent for China, which is national. Since both areas have different purposes, I do not see why Hong Kong should be worried about being overtaken for international hub activities by Shenzhen at this time, unless Xi decides that Shenzhen will take the same route and make the city also an international financial hub, which would then be a worrying development. But until then, it isn't that big of a concern. There is no competition for two different activities.
Hong Kong's prosperity comes from the fact that it's the hub to trade with the closed poor economy of China. When China is no longer these, Hong Kong would be surpassed by Mainland cities. For long HK was the financial hub of Chinese East Asia and now Shanghai retook its rightful position. So it is just natural for HK to feel less important than before. HK's Golden age in the 60s and 70s isn't coming back. They have to move on.
The biggest nail in the coffin for HK actually comes from the US. No more "Made in Hong Kong" allowed. I thought the US wanted to help HK. I guess not. 🤷🏻♂️
I disagree about the made in Hong Kong part. For one, Hong Kong barely manufactures anything in the 21st century to begin with. Most of its economy is service based. Besides, the labeling of “Made in Hong Kong” is only prohibited for goods exported to the US. It has no effect on goods exported elsewhere or intended for domestic consumption. In other words, the effect is next to none. The nail in the coffin for HK is actually the rapid rise of several Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Shanghai that could replace the role of Hong Kong in the future should the local political situation worsens.
Hong Kong's immediate decline is caused by a segment of the Hong Kong population. Do we need to act surprised ? Reminiscing about the 80's has no bearing on the current reality. Everything is very clear in front of our eyes. Mainlander used to think highly of the people of Hong Kong. USED TO, not any more. The large part of the younger generation has proved that they are more than ignorant. They are not only embarassing for the people in Hong Kong, but for all the ethnic Chinese all over the world. People in Hong Kong has very little understanding of international politics. They don't realize the same method of induced internal conflict has been deployed in many countries all over the world, damaging the economic foundation of those societies. The democratic processes available to the district councils and legislative council have already resulted in substantial number of members with hooligan behaviour, spending too much time bickering about nonsense, causing stagnant operations, and not moving forward productively. This is a sign that Hong Kong is far from ready for any further democratic process. Substantial amount of people in Hong Kong has asked for the disintegration of the fabric of their society, they got what they asked for. So Hong Kong is just incapable of being the leader of the great bay area. You don't need to be very smart to figure this out.
More competition more innovation, unlike some western company that will do anything to bring down competitor into bankrupt ASAP so they can keep the monopolist
No wonder that Hong Kong Manufacturing sectors had relocate Some Factories to Shen Zhen due to the lower costs and manpower employment labour cheaper than Hong Kong 🇭🇰.
@@fattyacid1901 Shenzhen average salary per month: 10,088 yuan HK average salary per month: 14,500 yuan Sources: www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201907/04/WS5d1d63cfa3105895c2e7ba4d.html tradingeconomics.com/hong-kong/wages
@@PyroMax Shenzhen average rental per month: 2,000 yuan. HK average rental per month: 9.999.999.999.999.999 yuan, oh and you live in a cage on a two floor bed.
Hong Kong’s economic growth rest solely on property bubbles, the financial services in Hong Kong solely serves the property developers and speculators. So it’s doom to fall.
I mean that’s how it is for a lot of Chinese company’s not all of them are pro China and the ccp is fine with it mostly the west just tried to emphasise china’s view
Hong Kong's only chance for survival would have been independence. If the HK people would have been able to gain independence, HK would become greater than Singapore.
When China is opening up in 1978 China need Hongkong as a gate for international investors to come. But for the last 40 years Hongkong economy will not be as big as what it is today if not due to China transformation and development. So Hongkong benefited hugely for the last 40 years. Start from when China was still poor until China transformed into a colossal giant today and Hongkong came along with it. In 1978 Hongkong economy was 14% of China, fast forward to 2019 Hongkong economy was only 2% of China. It's not like Hongkong was shrinking, but China oversized it until Hongkong became less significant in term of size. In the past when investors and traders want to enter China they have to go through Hongkong. Nowdays they just need to jump in to Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Hangzhou, Tianjin, Xingtao, your choice. Both benefited mutually, both needed each other. But as time passes China will need less and less Hongkong in the future.
I can understand why HKers are freaking out these days. Watching HK dramas in the 80s, Mainlanders were looked down up on. HK was better than mainland in almost every aspects.
On the contrary, I was referring to the fact that the Hong Kong people have forgotten that they are of Chinese origin and have rebelled on behalf of their colonial masters, ie. US and UK. Clearly a brainwashed bunch.
China has been giving HK port privelges for decades, but since HK repayed their gratitude with protests and disruptions, of course China would now start ramping up Shenzhen ports and focus solely there... They brought this one on themselves.
Shenzhen wouldn’t be where it is today without Hong Kong’s influence. The ccp didn’t help either. They were blocking trade for ages until they stopped and let private business into Shenzhen. If you stop punching someone, you are not helping them you have just stopped punching them.
Because this was what Hong Kong was afraid of when the handover happened in 1997. Hong Kong’s freedoms were limited by the CCP as the mainland wanted to turn Hong Kong into another Chinese city and create a new Asian hub in either Shanghai or Shenzhen. The protest were to protect these freedoms. Not arguing but just please just do research before blindly choosing sides
Y'all come visit me in Shenzhen, Imma bring you to the best restaurants I know 😤 people who are going to comment about corona, don't because it's practically not there anymore
@Anak Kalimantan Not going to list any names but coconut chicken restaurants are the best in Shenzhen! Coconut chicken if you didn't know is soup made with the coconut flesh and chicken. The soup has a rich taste of coconut and you eat the chicken with soy sauce. It's delicious!
Please Hong Kong,I am not from your country but I live in it,Please no protests,I feel like family in Hong Kong and receiving criticism about Hong Kong,makes me want to move out,so just let China be,there is no way to change it,It’s only going to make it worse
So better to earn more money than respect human rights? Yeah the world definitely needs more of that. I hope Hong Kong keeps fighting for their rights and keeps giving an example to mainland China. Of course how can their neighbours know about the riots if everything is censored anyway. But yeah lets get more money and more censorship, that is definitely the way to progress.
so you are supporting trouble maker? so riot in hongkong is your dream state of society? you're a joke. these rioters take away other people right and freedom for their own so called freedom and human right. rebels should not receive any right because their sparatist agenda. if they can't even act like a normal citizen, why are they asking for their right?? lastly, with hongkonger behavior like that, there is nothing to set as example to mainland china, how can a separist/rebelious/riot movement be an example hahahaha
@@立阿-o7d they make money by stepping over other people's rights. such an obvious concept I shouldn't be explaining. Do humanity a favour and check Xinjiang or Tibet please.
@@delvinrb I am supporting people who dont want to be judged by the law on Mainland China as that means you go to jail if you don't support the government. Are you gonna tell me know that I am lying? That would be a joke. Go and check Tiananmen Square 1989 please.
Shenzhen in an innovation engine, hk made its money skimming off the fat of the mainland. Now there are other options to access the mainland, hk has lost it’s only advantage.
the current hk education system is producing fascist chinese haters, instead of productive chinese citizens. as long as that doesn't change, Hong Kong's fate is quite dark. the national security law is just the first step in the right direction. however, the real core issue for Hong Kong actually is wealth inequality. this itself is the product of free and unabated capitalism. so the relative rise of Shenzhen against Hong Kong is unsurprising at all...
Sure sure. If that way you feel better with yourself. Look as the ppp which is the real data here and most importantly: growth rates lol SZ has 6 or more yoy while HK is around 0 to 2 max
@@DavidGonzalez-ff6yk And look at the companies in SZ and HK. SZ has Huawei, ZTE, Tencent, DJI etc IT, electronic giants and Huaxing Biotechnology giants etc. , native technology giants. not what MS, Google FB,Apple,Siemens, Ericsson etc US/EU branches. What HK has ? native technology giants? no. native bio giants? no. native Fiancial giants? no. HK, just an agent of EU/US , what a shame
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again? Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons. China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years. Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again. However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together. Why? Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING. Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them. Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich. SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them. As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese. Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world. Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule. Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control. In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world. -Thomas Lee www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa Discussing Hong Kong, Politics, Propaganda, Brainwashing, Media & Coronavirus With Dan Cohen ua-cam.com/video/trvrMWXM16o/v-deo.html
People say Shenzhen or Shanghai will overtake Hong Kong. But then why does Alibaba float on the Hong Kong stock exchange instead of the Shanghai stock exchange
@@reynango9645 when did they manage to develop "democratic system" over there? with all those oligarchs around... it seems anything could be called "democracy" nowadays, if it fits some kind of narrative or agenda
@@reynango9645 none of the two systems has to be necessary a "democracy"; a society, where couple of guys/corporations run virtually everything, is not supposed to be called "democratic"
@@rncmv NOPE IT IS THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THAT RULES HONGKONG NOT CORPORATIONS. I SEE THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE BRAIN DEAD ANTI-CORPORATE THAT ASSUMES BIG BUSINESS RUNS A COUNTRY.
Apparently many people in the comment section complaining why it is so hard for Hongkongers to give up their culture, identity, ideology and beliefs that define the people of Hong Kong as Hongkongers. My friends, what’s the price for your liberty ? Are you ready give up everything that makes you yourself for development and technology that probably will not benefits you and the people before you who fought to protect the land you born on ?
Hong Kong is still the gate for China open to the rest of the world, the HK elders could retire in Greater Bay Area, providing financial support inside the area and reduce the demanding housing problem in HK, freeing spaces to the younger generation.
HK lost all its competitive edge in 2019.... it wont come back...
totally agreed.
@Ray Leigh The National Security Law for HK was absolutely necessary to restore peace and stability broken by the youngsters rioters. You think America doesn't have National Security Law?
It not to late work . appreciate the one country and two system and work together with your sister brother to get the share and boost your economi your people will hv better life. You just like Singapore no resources and no military all surrounded by your sister and brother. Put all the traitors in jail. Your garmoment hv to work fast too slow. You hv lost your financial hub. Look at Singapore still maintain financial hup .
No, HK has been on the decline for years now. The instability and economic isolation of 2019 and 2020 may have accelerated this, but in the end it was the laissez-faire Capitalist system primarily driven by an unsustainable real-estate industry, and the self-serving, short-sighted wealthy elite ruling over the city that caused its decline. It also didn't help that instead of accepting further integration and economic assistance from the central government, Hong Kongers maintained a xenophobic, localist mentality towards any mainland interventions (a carryover from their British colonial era) and instead of adapting to a changing China, they stuck to their failing economic system.
In the end though, a small one-time fishing village will never outpace the greater Chinese economy forever, no matter what rose-tinted nostalgia glasses Hong Kong elitists wear.
@Ray Leigh Security law was to STOP CIA infiltration in HK youth. China shouldn't HELP HK because HK isn't China. HK is independent. All China can provide is Security and Rule of Law. Everything else is up the HK and it's people.
Why so shocked? Shenzhen was bound to surpass Hong Kong sooner or later.
It is possible for Shenzhen’s economy to be greater than Hong Kong since their population is already greater.
Its a serious mistake to destroy Hong Kong.
@Heather Larson have you ever heard of diminished returns?
@Heather Larson Declining? 🙂 clearly u r brainwashed
@Shawn Li Nope , HK is destroyed by Xi Jin Ping n Carrie Lam !!!
This was bound to happen sooner or later. Hong Kong’s advantage was their port, then their relaxed laws welcoming financial investing. But as we can see from financial markets, the real drivers is technology. This is where Hong Kong is falling behind. China’s government is pumping so much money into research, it’s almost impossible for Hong Kong to maintain their competitive advantage. Their status as a financial sanctuary is also in doubt. Most of my friends lost their jobs because investors pulled out. This was before Covid.
@Shane L A common trend in every unstable nation, the less riots and protests, the safer it is to have a business investment.
Whatever happen to HK, in the end its always win for china afterall
@Shane L Agreed
I'm from hk who lives abroad and can say Hk has been dead for at least 15years. Its an 80s city...feels old compared to shenzhen.
@@matthewang8934 No riots because everyone is just suppressed. You can get arrested before you even open your mouth, thats called thought-crime.
Natural progression, if HK still have the superiority mindset.
As China is opening up more, HK will lose its status as the only gateway for China.
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again?
Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons.
China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years.
Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again.
However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together.
Why?
Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING.
Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them.
Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich.
SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them.
As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese.
Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world.
Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule.
Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control.
In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world.
-Thomas Lee
www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa
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I feel PRC doesn't want HK to be great. It is like the lost child that came back after it has grown up as a teen. Resources were all poured into Shenzhen.
@@choonkeonglim6178 废青闭嘴
@@choonkeonglim6178 yes why would Chinese want HK to be great again and what was the definition of great. Is it so great while poor - lower average people in HK live in cage home or nano apartment and hk held as no. 1 Asian international financial city.
The only competitive edge of HK has always been its role as the trading channel to the vast Chinese public. Now that it’s possible to invest directly in the mainland, HK is just another Chinese city but with higher housing prices and stricter migrant worker policy. The only pro of HK is basically the freedom politically, which has proven to be an overrated quality in the past few yrs
Spot on.
HK was the lucky middle man back in the 80s and 90s while shenzhen was still in early development and China began to open up to the market.
This was all temporary and have nothing to do with the Brit.
Even at the height of HK prosperity, only the capitalists in HK were rich, the majority of the population remained poor.
The Brit thought democracy would be wrong for HK. For entire time HK under British rule, there was not a hint of democracy.
It also has the advantage of being a visa-free zone for most advanced countries. This makes it easier to do business with Hong Kong. Hopefully at some point China will have that policy as well.
@@misterhill5598 HKers weren’t even seen as British citizens. What coloniser does that ffs😅
@@aliwakanda7327 technically not a colony.
HK was on a 99 years lease.
But this is getting off track.
Shenzen is one of the best cities i've ever been, way better than HK in many ways!
@qwerty L. Its not like China cares about any of that lol. HK doesn't worth as much to China any more.
I mean nothing lasts forever
Been to both cities multiple times can confirm this
You're silly. Hong Kong is Asia's only World City for a reason. Shenzhen is underwhelming compared to HK.
Shenzhen is much more modern than Hong Kong, if you've been to both cities you should know. Hong Kong is full of third-world looking apartment buildings, for a supposed rich city it looks very bad.
Yeah, and Shenzhen kills its own people [Death Penalty], but Hong Kong doesn't.
@@iche9373 if you commit a severe enough crime, what’s wrong about that?
@@neitherlink6612 Prison For Life
@@iche9373 prison is a waste of money
@@Haotheman death row is more expensive than prison
Xi clearly said that China will be less tight with Shenzhen but more tight with HK... the value of HK was it has both tie with China and Western, similar to singapore, except singapore is closer with western but HK is closer to China... China is fine that HK has close tie with western as long as it remain closer to China, that was their bottom line, until balance broken in 2019 when Hkers try to make HK closer to western... So China is now using Macau Shenzhen Hainan as alternative of HK
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again?
Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons.
China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years.
Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again.
However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together.
Why?
Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING.
Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them.
Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich.
SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them.
As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese.
Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world.
Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule.
Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control.
In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world.
-Thomas Lee
www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa
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@@condorX2 China miracle is 100 times Hong Kong......
@@tanyeweestudent6856 singapore to diversify... some speaks chinese and remain close to China, but more speaks english only and are pro western
@@tanyeweestudent6856 i am from singapore too, studying in HCI a levels. I think you are only partially right, our government is aligned closer to Westerners, while citizens aligned closer to China.
@@corruptslayer3745 Citizens more aligned to China what drugs are you on? The people of Singapore are mostly descended from immigrants that came to Singapore during the Qing Dynasty or the Republic of China when it still controlled the mainland before retreating to Taiwan. The PRC is not your ancestral homeland not after they took over in 1949, the lands where your forefathers came from is current day ROC or better known as Taiwan.
What's HK's competitive edge exactly? Self-destruction riots? Mentally colonized herd? Anti-China frontier?
Shen Zhen is already surpassing Ameriscum silicone valley long shot due too many junkies, addict, poors, homeless, racist trouble makers, corrupt politicians, falling infractures, debtbeat and debt in San Jose, California and Ameriscum, so that no way can do better than communist China one.
Danny Kwan Until the National Security Law, Hong Kong was the Mainland center of individualism and creativity. Now Hong Kong has been stifled. 😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
@@John77Doe HK is a financial hub while Shenzhen is a technology center. Creativity is obviously not HK's strong suit.
@@yuegonghuamei6685 learn to spell before writing propaganda
HK’s competitive edge is same as d west. They ‘think’ they r superior. Well, let them keep thinking that...
Shenzhen has a higher GDP than Hong Kong for over 3 years now. While HK's economy has been stalling for years. 🤘
But ShenZhen is a 12.5 million population with 396 billion USD GDP compared with HongKong’s 7.4million population with 362 billion USD GDP.. I think Hong Kong is doing really well with 40% less people than ShenZhen.
@@ditsygirl5409 Yeah and for 100 years Hong Kong has been the number 1 financial hub in the region with its historical rivals (Guangzhou and Shanghai) gone overnight after 1949. Millions of Chinese fleeing the communists, poured into HK after 1949. If you want to blame anyone, blame Hongkongers for not adapting and being competitive in the new globalized capitalist market.
@@ditsygirl5409 Hong Kong's economy has been stagnant for years without any signs of growth. While Shenzhen's economy has been growing exponentially for 40 years and will only continue to grow as the backbone of the massively funded investments from the greater bay area project. Hong Kong is a has-been now.
@@leethal59 but Shenzhen is not as productive as Hong Kong in terms of gdp per capita. It’s not fair to compare these 2 cities like that. I hope that you guys be patient and claim your spot when you have beaten HK by gdp per capita. That is the only way you guys can claim superiority to beat them one on one, if not you guys are just winning because you have more people that’s all.
GDP again...sigh..
How much do u understand GDP ?
Does HK pay tax revenue like Shenzhen does? No? Ok
HongKong: Leave me alone
Also HongKong: Don't leave me alone
*How ironic*
$$$$$$$
Hongkong: we want to earn as much money from mainland we can.
Also Hongkong: we want to stay away from mainland as much as possible.
Mainlander: ok let's invest inShenzhen instead.
Hongkong: why are we losing?
what a futuristic looking city, this is the first time I see of Shenzen . I swear chinese megacities are very underrated but thats probably because china is a secretive country. I really respect and admire China
Chinese is not secretive country. Everyone can visit ,stay, apply for work and even live there. Actually many young inteligent women of Westen democracy love living and working in China.
Very importantly, the Chinese women have more rights than your kind of blondies in any democracy, especially in USA.
@India Raj well do you comment with your fact based on the western or not? because the western tried to lie their way in with ten thousands victims narrative, if you dont spread like those, then it will be fine to debate
It's not secretive. We just don't like to meddle with anyone else. We only meddle with our family, friends and relatives and not with other countries.
@@kimchongify your right ... Make love to me baby
@India Raj imagine walking into someones house, they accomadate you and you tunr around to insult them, thats what youre doing. A social credit system is not made to last in the long run, from a peasant background to a superpower, certain habits of rural backwardsness needs to be changed
Shenzhen has been rolling out some impressive incentives for highly educated scientists and professionals - sometimes *$100,000 - $300,000+* for talents just to _start their career in the city_ (I have post-doc friends who are applying). HK might still be the financial hub of Asia, but it would struggle to compete in terms of tech startups due to the insane housing prices & living costs.
When u financialise an economy, it’s d road to perdition. Economy must always b based on real things like manufacturing, tech etc, not just shifting money around.
Why live in tiny HK when you have a enormous beautiful landmass China to live on?
This was always going to happen. China is going to forge ahead regardless of critcs and will sweep aside self-destructive HK protestors. It will never allow itself be bullied and humiliated by foreign powers (British, American, European and Japanese) ever again, as it was in much of the 19th and 20th centuries.
Exactly
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whats to talk about hk, water and electricity comes from china
so is 90% of food.
@@Steven-xf8mz yep
Electricity is not from China. btw HK People does not want to use water supply from china because it too expansive. They want to use the water from the seawater desalination plant. But china want that income from HK, so china supply water to HK.
@@TTKT236 Some commons sense plz, desalinated water is much more expensive, in 1985 more than 50% of water supply in HK already came from mainland, in 1991 it became 80%.
@@TTKT236 you fool
What if Shenzhen and Hong Kong city are merged in a one mega city. It would be tech+finance mega giant.
That is the plan, CCP is going to merge most cities of Guangdong province into one big megacity. You could say the Rise of the Cantonese belt..
@@ArghyadeepPal Actually Cantonese belt is already very flourished and powerful. Kinda scary btw.
@@jaisarda8484 Cantonese people are indeed the richest group in China after all.
Wrong. Among all provinces in China, Jiangsu has the highest GDP per capita.
@@ArghyadeepPal shenzhen is mostly non cantonese, and a large portion of HK population were actually comes from shanghai area and northern china
HK was always meant to be integrated in the Greater Bay Area project. The situation there just needs to stabilize first.
Once the foreign fuelled anti-Chinese separatist frenzy dies down and the HK youth realise that the mainland is not the big bad wolf, then they'll be able to take advantage of the opportunities to come, which is exactly what they need.
Unfortunately, few people seems to understand this as western msm are still spreading misinformation, or even disinformation.
It is the big bad wolf.
hannesH3 ; u r Pinocchio...?
@@djtan3313 wrong movie
Hong Kong's obsolescence, while inevitable, was expedited by the very rioters who claimed to be helping further their own city. They have no one to blame but themselves.
HK is too arrogant, looking down on mainland Chinese and calling them locusts.
We have news for you, locusts are doing better than you 😅
But the problem is most people in Asia look down on mainlanders. Even Vietnamese don't like mainlanders.
20 years ago, any mainland women would marry a man from HKG without hesitation and without even seeing the man. Today, mainland women’s don’t see anything special anymore. Some been shun those from HKG.
If you can have better living standards in the mainland then it is a fair game for both guys either Hong Kong or mainland while trying to court a bride.
This "any Mainland woman" surely does not include me...
The root of the problem in Hong Kong is their education system, and the ability to mass produce little rioters.
btw, isn't opting out of the Greater Bay development one of the key aims for the anti-China rioters in Hong Kong?
How nobody talk about CIA roles is astonishing.
Nobody in China, taking about CCP role in 1989.....
HK took 150 years to get to what it is today. Shenzhen took only 40 years.
They're totally different though, so it doesn't make sense to compare them
Okay fine, then compare Singapore and Hong Kong. How long did Singapore take?
No matter how wealthy cities get it should realise their neighbouring cities are also developing.
Everything goes thru three stages, up, plateau and down. Where is Hong Kong now?
i think it plateaued years ago while the rest of china and many other parts of the world have caught up or even surpassed it
Rock bottom
It’s at the fourth, vanishing.
For the past few years, down. Now, it’s plummeting even faster
In the toilet.
The difference is not about how well SZ performed but HK focused on political issues in the pass 20yrs.
Yes, you are right. They all want to escape from China.
@Lucas muller well, that’s not 100% true when you talking about voting. It’s interesting that so called communism focus on economy while capitalism is on politics.
HK’s position is defined by HK people. HK people must work as a team. No leader would trust & give bigger task to an unstable chaos sick team. Period.
Hong Kong and Shenzhen does two different things. Hong Kong is an international hub, while Shenzhen is a SIlicon Valley equivalent for China, which is national. Since both areas have different purposes, I do not see why Hong Kong should be worried about being overtaken for international hub activities by Shenzhen at this time, unless Xi decides that Shenzhen will take the same route and make the city also an international financial hub, which would then be a worrying development. But until then, it isn't that big of a concern. There is no competition for two different activities.
Agreed
This is from SCMP, mind you!
Hong Kong's prosperity comes from the fact that it's the hub to trade with the closed poor economy of China. When China is no longer these, Hong Kong would be surpassed by Mainland cities. For long HK was the financial hub of Chinese East Asia and now Shanghai retook its rightful position. So it is just natural for HK to feel less important than before. HK's Golden age in the 60s and 70s isn't coming back. They have to move on.
thats early 2010s theory, now its 2020 where technology even more matters
@@GwyyshsbakIzjsbsbszjzjzjhh No. HK is still and will always be China's Premier Financial Hub. Shenzhen was never in competition with Hong Kong.
HK riots: We did a great job!
CCP: we did our job
Anyone who pays attention the politics & the economy in China would have seen this coming, very very obvious..
Hong Kong is very much lagging behind...
Hong Kong asked for it
HK "protests" looks very peaceful compared to those in USA... and China seems a much more better and cleaner place than any state of USA...
The biggest nail in the coffin for HK actually comes from the US. No more "Made in Hong Kong" allowed.
I thought the US wanted to help HK. I guess not. 🤷🏻♂️
Its under the control of the CCP right now, so what point is there to help
@Jam Lee You're missing the point
I disagree about the made in Hong Kong part. For one, Hong Kong barely manufactures anything in the 21st century to begin with. Most of its economy is service based. Besides, the labeling of “Made in Hong Kong” is only prohibited for goods exported to the US. It has no effect on goods exported elsewhere or intended for domestic consumption. In other words, the effect is next to none. The nail in the coffin for HK is actually the rapid rise of several Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Shanghai that could replace the role of Hong Kong in the future should the local political situation worsens.
Hong Kong is Past, Shenzhen is Future 🇨🇳💪
Hong Kong's immediate decline is caused by a segment of the Hong Kong population.
Do we need to act surprised ?
Reminiscing about the 80's has no bearing on the current reality.
Everything is very clear in front of our eyes.
Mainlander used to think highly of the people of Hong Kong. USED TO, not any more.
The large part of the younger generation has proved that they are more than ignorant. They are not only embarassing for the people in Hong Kong, but for all the ethnic Chinese all over the world.
People in Hong Kong has very little understanding of international politics. They don't realize the same method of induced internal conflict has been deployed in many countries all over the world, damaging the economic foundation of those societies.
The democratic processes available to the district councils and legislative council have already resulted in substantial number of members with hooligan behaviour, spending too much time bickering about nonsense, causing stagnant operations, and not moving forward productively. This is a sign that Hong Kong is far from ready for any further democratic process.
Substantial amount of people in Hong Kong has asked for the disintegration of the fabric of their society, they got what they asked for. So Hong Kong is just incapable of being the leader of the great bay area. You don't need to be very smart to figure this out.
let the competition begins between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.
both are chinese cities . Actully not bad for the whole country
More competition more innovation, unlike some western company that will do anything to bring down competitor into bankrupt ASAP so they can keep the monopolist
It doenst fair at all
Hong Kong has failed to catch the wave of Internet development. China's famous Internet companies are all based on the mainland.
I always prefer to say in Hong Kong than mainland, I need my daily dose of free media and internet or should I use a VPN in mainland and Shenzhen?
No wonder that Hong Kong Manufacturing sectors had relocate Some Factories to Shen Zhen due to the lower costs and manpower employment labour cheaper than Hong Kong 🇭🇰.
@@fattyacid1901 Shenzhen average salary per month: 10,088 yuan
HK average salary per month: 14,500 yuan
Sources:
www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201907/04/WS5d1d63cfa3105895c2e7ba4d.html
tradingeconomics.com/hong-kong/wages
@@PyroMax Shenzhen average rental per month: 2,000 yuan.
HK average rental per month: 9.999.999.999.999.999 yuan, oh and you live in a cage on a two floor bed.
Every cities need to competitive and cooperate at same time
Hong Kong’s economic growth rest solely on property bubbles, the financial services in Hong Kong solely serves the property developers and speculators. So it’s doom to fall.
Hong Kong is in the middle of becoming a history
not really, its still a very famous city, and shenzhen and hong kong play different roles
Shenzhen is amazing!!!
We love Shenzhen.
1:02 this is how you know SCMP is definitely not a CCP mouthpiece when Taiwan was not shown on a Chinese map.
is a traitor channel
I mean that’s how it is for a lot of Chinese company’s not all of them are pro China and the ccp is fine with it mostly the west just tried to emphasise china’s view
Last time we dealt with HK manufacturers. Nowadays it's all Shenzhen. We don't bother with HK anymore.
Hong Kong's only chance for survival would have been independence. If the HK people would have been able to gain independence, HK would become greater than Singapore.
You are dreaming. You dont know how dependent HK is on China. If China just cut off the water supply HK is dead.
When China is opening up in 1978 China need Hongkong as a gate for international investors to come.
But for the last 40 years Hongkong economy will not be as big as what it is today if not due to China transformation and development. So Hongkong benefited hugely for the last 40 years. Start from when China was still poor until China transformed into a colossal giant today and Hongkong came along with it.
In 1978 Hongkong economy was 14% of China, fast forward to 2019 Hongkong economy was only 2% of China. It's not like Hongkong was shrinking, but China oversized it until Hongkong became less significant in term of size.
In the past when investors and traders want to enter China they have to go through Hongkong.
Nowdays they just need to jump in to Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Hangzhou, Tianjin, Xingtao, your choice.
Both benefited mutually, both needed each other.
But as time passes China will need less and less Hongkong in the future.
I'm jealous
Proud to be Shenzhen people😆😆😆
Shenzhen needs Hong Kong, Hong Kong needs Shenzhen.
Thank you for sharing this video. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nice job teenagers for ruining hk reputation wow all your ancestors hard work gone to waste
I can understand why HKers are freaking out these days. Watching HK dramas in the 80s, Mainlanders were looked down up on. HK was better than mainland in almost every aspects.
Just thinking of the fish caught in the fishing village of HK makes me hungry.
Hong Kong people should be adjacent with mainland China that will be better in the long run for both.
with Trump (US) uninterested to trade with China, Hong Kong has tiny role.
nope, it is the most easy place to exchange any currency into RMB.
HK rioters really ruined their city 😳
Too bad their 'fingers bent outwards instead of inwards'.
On the contrary, I was referring to the fact that the Hong Kong people have forgotten that they are of Chinese origin and have rebelled on behalf of their colonial masters, ie. US and UK. Clearly a brainwashed bunch.
proud to be chinese .... china , land of culture
Not enough English speakers in Shenzhen. It can never replace Hong Kong. 😐😐😐😐😐
So I heard Donald Trump's grand daughter was learning Chinese.
@@cheungchingtong she learned it very well. You can watch the video of her reciting a Chinese poem.
Rioting high school and college students usually don’t signal “development” to investors, innovators, and entrepreneurs.
Hong Kong is the dad of Shenzhen, now Hong Kong is a grandpa and Shenzhen is a dad
HK has ceased and SZ took over.
@@haha4581 it still exists tho
Hong Kong is a rich kid of China. now Hong Kong smokes drug and daydreams everyday while Shenzhen overtakes it by hardworking.
HK needs to innovate more. It is stuck in the past.
China has been giving HK port privelges for decades, but since HK repayed their gratitude with protests and disruptions, of course China would now start ramping up Shenzhen ports and focus solely there... They brought this one on themselves.
How can they empty such a huge tank ? I don't see any pump.
Shenzhen wouldn’t be where it is today without Hong Kong’s influence. The ccp didn’t help either. They were blocking trade for ages until they stopped and let private business into Shenzhen. If you stop punching someone, you are not helping them you have just stopped punching them.
Because this was what Hong Kong was afraid of when the handover happened in 1997. Hong Kong’s freedoms were limited by the CCP as the mainland wanted to turn Hong Kong into another Chinese city and create a new Asian hub in either Shanghai or Shenzhen. The protest were to protect these freedoms. Not arguing but just please just do research before blindly choosing sides
Shenzhen, international hub (?), got access to the free web and media ???
Do you know sth called VPN
I'm kinda surprised this video has narrator.
Y'all come visit me in Shenzhen, Imma bring you to the best restaurants I know 😤
people who are going to comment about corona, don't because it's practically not there anymore
I'm sure there are very nice restaurants:)
@Anak Kalimantan Not going to list any names but coconut chicken restaurants are the best in Shenzhen! Coconut chicken if you didn't know is soup made with the coconut flesh and chicken. The soup has a rich taste of coconut and you eat the chicken with soy sauce. It's delicious!
@@minnkosviv sound yummy, does the dish have rice?
@@fatpigeon1066 mm..not really, you just drink the soup. I mean, unless you want to mix the rice with the soup and eat it together. But it's sweet so-
@@minnkosviv nice
Please Hong Kong,I am not from your country but I live in it,Please no protests,I feel like family in Hong Kong and receiving criticism about Hong Kong,makes me want to move out,so just let China be,there is no way to change it,It’s only going to make it worse
So much toxicity in the comments. Funny how Chinese users only come out in force on China vid and nothing else
So better to earn more money than respect human rights? Yeah the world definitely needs more of that. I hope Hong Kong keeps fighting for their rights and keeps giving an example to mainland China. Of course how can their neighbours know about the riots if everything is censored anyway. But yeah lets get more money and more censorship, that is definitely the way to progress.
Making more money guarantees you human rights, and I don't think people in Africa have more human rights than we do, even if they are in a democracy.
so you are supporting trouble maker?
so riot in hongkong is your dream state of society? you're a joke.
these rioters take away other people right and freedom for their own so called freedom and human right.
rebels should not receive any right because their sparatist agenda.
if they can't even act like a normal citizen, why are they asking for their right??
lastly, with hongkonger behavior like that, there is nothing to set as example to mainland china, how can a separist/rebelious/riot movement be an example hahahaha
@@立阿-o7d they make money by stepping over other people's rights. such an obvious concept I shouldn't be explaining. Do humanity a favour and check Xinjiang or Tibet please.
@@delvinrb I am supporting people who dont want to be judged by the law on Mainland China as that means you go to jail if you don't support the government. Are you gonna tell me know that I am lying? That would be a joke. Go and check Tiananmen Square 1989 please.
@@macroscopes Limit small rights, and then give big rights. This is not a violation of rights.
It's not Shen-Zenn, it's Shn-jn
@califood3618 No worries Caley
Hong Kong is so expensive so why are people even surprise.
Yeah and real estate in Shenzhen is even more expensive.
Beautiful cities... I wish we were friends..
Shenzhen in an innovation engine, hk made its money skimming off the fat of the mainland. Now there are other options to access the mainland, hk has lost it’s only advantage.
the current hk education system is producing fascist chinese haters, instead of productive chinese citizens. as long as that doesn't change, Hong Kong's fate is quite dark. the national security law is just the first step in the right direction. however, the real core issue for Hong Kong actually is wealth inequality. this itself is the product of free and unabated capitalism. so the relative rise of Shenzhen against Hong Kong is unsurprising at all...
Agreed.
I pity young hongki minds being misled and confused.
Free Hong Kong
@Go Live Free the chinese muslims
@@makillafofilla101 they are pretty free, most of them...
I guess my grandpa was wise to leave HK. haha!
where'd he leave to
I just don't understand how these people have anything to do with communism anymore
Historically Hong Kong is part of Shenzhen. It is natural to merging back with Shenzhen after decolonization no matter you like it or not.
shenzhen didnt exist 30 years ago lol
Population is the key. HK 7.5 million, Shenzhen 20 Million, Guangzhou 20 million.
HK must be edged, just as Philadephia edged by New York.
Sure sure. If that way you feel better with yourself. Look as the ppp which is the real data here and most importantly: growth rates lol SZ has 6 or more yoy while HK is around 0 to 2 max
@@DavidGonzalez-ff6yk And look at the companies in SZ and HK.
SZ has Huawei, ZTE, Tencent, DJI etc IT, electronic giants and Huaxing Biotechnology giants etc. , native technology giants.
not what MS, Google FB,Apple,Siemens, Ericsson etc US/EU branches.
What HK has ?
native technology giants? no.
native bio giants? no.
native Fiancial giants? no.
HK, just an agent of EU/US , what a shame
I like that president speaks, and everybody is guessing the meaning. So productive...
he's telling the truth...no matter how you hate this man
smthg wrong? hk will be returning into a small fishing village, as it had been hundreds years ago
Nothing wrong with that. HK is actually lucky to have Shenzhen.
It's a very simple thing when Hong Kong does n' t listen to Dad
HK's Economy will follow its entertainment industry, soon or later.
Some Hkers are like: young people protesting out on the street is way more productive.
Can the CCP make Hong Kong great again?
Hong Kong has had one of its economic miracles being one of the 4 Asian little dragons.
China CCP had performed possibly, the BIGGEST economic miracle in human history to have lifted over 600 million people from poverty and transformed its economy to become the second largest in the world in less than 40 years.
Logically, there is STRONG evidence and reason to believe that China working with Hong Kong will and can deliver GREAT results for Hong Kong and make Hong Kong great again.
However, unfortunately, there are many, especially young people in Hong Kong do NOT want China's involvement in Hong Kong even to the extent that they promoted their idea of rather having Hong Kong die economically than to work with China. That's called “Naam Chau”, meaning die together.
Why?
Some Hong Kong people blame Mainland Chinese for EVERYTHING.
Those Hong Kong people, from before 1997 and a few years after 1997, felt they were SUPERIOR to Mainland Chinese due to the earlier economic development of Hong Kong than Mainland China. They felt Mainland Chinese were their poor and silly relatives across the border and didn't think highly of them.
Hong Kong, from 1997 to 2003, suffered one of the MOST serious economic depressions in its 150 years history due to the broke out of the Asian Economic Crisis in 1997. Housing prices dropped over 70% and stock market dropped to historical lows. During that same time, China was developing VERY quickly and MANY Mainland Chinese started to get rich and VERY rich.
SARS hit Hong Kong during early 2003 and further devastated the Hong Kong economy and the livelihoods of Hong Kong people. After SARS, in order to help revive Hong Kong economy, the Central government in Beijing approved Chinese tourists visiting Hong Kong with a much simplified visa, causing millions of Mainlanders to visit Hong Kong and to shop at LOWER prices in Hong Kong as there was ZERO tax and duties in Hong Kong as free trade port. Hong Kong's economy in a very short time was REVIVED with the new found spending powers of millions of Mainland Chinese going to Hong Kong every month.The downside of this incoming Chinese tourists was that MANY Hong Kong people who used to despise and look down on Mainland Chinese, had to face the reality that SOME are MUCH richer and smarter than them.
As usual, when economies did well, prices went up. Prices of Housing, stock market, products of daily use ALL went up and went up SIGNIFICANTLY. More and more smart and hardworking Mainland Chinese studied in Hong Kong or overseas were getting better jobs in Hong Kong and with better pays than Hong Kong people due to their higher caliber. Hong Kong people were LOSING OUT BIG TIME and were forced to face the reality that they were WORSE OFF, at least to those Mainland Chinese who could afford to visit and work in Hong Kong. That caused unrepairable damages to MANY who felt any superiority over Mainland Chinese.
Many Hong Kong people, especially those young ones, had witnessed the improving economy but that only benefited the richer and smarter ones and they themselves suffered DECLINING standards of living. The anger and resentment grew BIGGER as Hong Kong depended on Mainland China more and more and MANY Hong Kong young people were just NOT competitive enough in the freest and most capitalistic city in the world.
Therefore, some Hong Kong “scholars” and opinion leaders over the years INVENTED a story for the youngsters that in Hong Kong things WERE much better during British colonial rule than after returned to China in 1997. Resentment, angers, frustrations, ignorance GREATLY built up among Hong Kong young people and they wanted to overthrow the Hong Kong government and reduced the influence of Chinese central government on Hong Kong. They wanted to make DRASTIC CHANGES to Hong Kong to “improve” Hong Kong in the names of freedom, human rights and democracy. As a matter of fact, most youngsters who believed this “story” were born AFTER 1997 and had NEVER lived a single day during British colonial rule.
Some, especially young people, in Hong Kong believed the story that things WERE much better before 1997 and China was responsible for making their lives difficult. Therefore, they viewed UK and USA as their HELP and SAVIOR to hope to seek assistance and support from them to overthrow Hong Kong and Chinese governments for their “DREAMLAND” to occur in Hong Kong under WESTERN influence and control.
In conclusion, it is VERY UNLIKELY Hong Kong will be great again having declining quality of people, especially young ones, and resisting the support and cooperation from China, the MOST dynamic economic powerhouse of the world.
-Thomas Lee
www.quora.com/Can-the-CCP-make-Hong-Kong-great-again/answer/Thomas-Lee-1181?ch=10&share=2726f7c2&srid=uvAeWa
Discussing Hong Kong, Politics, Propaganda, Brainwashing, Media & Coronavirus With Dan Cohen
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@@condorX2 can you please copy and post your comment again? I missed to read it. Thank you
@@PyroMax 😁🍻
People say Shenzhen or Shanghai will overtake Hong Kong. But then why does Alibaba float on the Hong Kong stock exchange instead of the Shanghai stock exchange
I look at d naivety and gullibility of young hongkis, I shake my head...
WHAT I SEE IS A CREEPING HANDS FROM AUTHORITARIAN CHINA TRYING TO DEFILE THE DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM OF HONGKONG
@@reynango9645 when did they manage to develop "democratic system" over there? with all those oligarchs around... it seems anything could be called "democracy" nowadays, if it fits some kind of narrative or agenda
@@rncmv IT IS LITERALLY CALLED ONE COUNTRY TWO SYSTEM AND YOU ARE STILL NOT CERTAIN IF ITS A DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.
@@reynango9645 none of the two systems has to be necessary a "democracy"; a society, where couple of guys/corporations run virtually everything, is not supposed to be called "democratic"
@@rncmv NOPE IT IS THE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT THAT RULES HONGKONG NOT CORPORATIONS. I SEE THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE BRAIN DEAD ANTI-CORPORATE THAT ASSUMES BIG BUSINESS RUNS A COUNTRY.
Apparently many people in the comment section complaining why it is so hard for Hongkongers to give up their culture, identity, ideology and beliefs that define the people of Hong Kong as Hongkongers. My friends, what’s the price for your liberty ? Are you ready give up everything that makes you yourself for development and technology that probably will not benefits you and the people before you who fought to protect the land you born on ?
Love for China from Pakistan 🇵🇰.
most of my online buying product's come from Guangdong
I thought hongkong said they don't need china? What now?
Hong Kong is still the gate for China open to the rest of the world, the HK elders could retire in Greater Bay Area, providing financial support inside the area and reduce the demanding housing problem in HK, freeing spaces to the younger generation.
再也不是香港货车司机在深圳包二奶三奶的年代了。
货车司机房都租不起，还特么做梦包二奶？
I don't think the protests have tarnished Hong Kongs reputation considering most of the international community supports the protests.
Oh wow 3 days and this video is already flooded with CCP bots
Bots??
Do you have a factual and proveable facts? Or just got butthurted or dickhurted because got outnumbered?
@@theasianboy315 you should never try to argue with haters.
Hongkongers can always leave for other countries as China doesn't need them!