Grime comes from Garage music, Jungle music and Dancehall/Bashment music. But all of these forms of UK music have origins in Jamaican British culture. Raggamuffin music.
@@internationalferg Because the U.S music scene is so big the majority of American hiphop fans never would be able to hear our scene nor care too much back then plus youtube and the internet wasn't what it is today.
@@internationalferg US influence as well though, the NY sound like Wu and that really got big here way back a lot of UK hip hop is very Wu based, but Grime is a parallel stream its not born from Hip hop, but its influenced by it, but more of its foundation is Carribean based, to me Grime is to hip hop what Metal was to Rock and Roll, its made in the UK with the influences the UK has, Culturally we have a stronger connection to Carribean than US
Back then, grime wasn't mainstream at all. That's why he doesn't get the recognition he deserves. He peaked when radio wouldn't play grime and had to go pop to sell.
A guy called Durrty Goodz was on Wileys level back then. You can check out his FITB or check out his track Goofy which takes shots at drake for trying to leech off the uk scene
Durrty Goodz a proper UK legend, same as his brother! Durrty Whirl is one of my all time favorite mixtapes, but I think they are all good, even the newer ones, He has shown a lot of versatility and skill throughout the years, got a lot of respect for Goodz, His 2002 war dubs with Wiley are legendary!
Wiley/dizzy rascal and other were writing, fast rhymes to Drum and bass. The rhymes then sound like this flow on a uk garage beat. The flows just fit real tidy. "Fire in the booth Drum and bass special" if you're interested in drum and bass.
MF Doom was from the UK originally as well bro. I think a lot of Americans don't realise how big american hip-hop has been in the UK since the mid 90s its been as mainstream as it is in america, uk rappers were fully underground and got no radio play until the last 5-10 yrs. Grime originally came from a mix of garage and Jungle (similar to drum and bass music). Rapping first started in NY but originally it was called toasting (in Jamaica) when it was taken to america it was slowed down but when it was taken to the UK it sped up and thats now jungle music was born and was very big along with garage in the 90s
Grime is a combination of Jungle Music, Garage Music and even House music..... Wiley's Eski beats...i believe was inspired due to the fact that Wiley's a Caribbean (Barbados, i think) who moved to England....where its *COLD* .....Wiley is a person who came from a Tropical climate who moved to an area where it gets cold (and even after 20 years of living in London......you can tell that he _still_ isn't used to the Cold!) when you see Richard Cowie receiving his MBE award....his teeth is chattering! I think the creation of Eskibeats was a result of Mr. Cowie coping with living a freezing climate.
Wiley Wot U Call It? is the first track he made. It's a throwback to when they didnt know what to call it. Garage was the genre popular at the time. So you hear it's not garage. Is it two step? Urban? It eventually settled on Grime. But that is the start of it
@@internationalferg This is the crazy thing, your reaction to it will probably be the same as most people in the UK at the time. We hadn't heard anything like it before. But yes from what it is now it does sound dated lol but we have a soft spot for it.
@@internationalferg It's not his first record. He was part of a collective called Pay As You Go Cartel and they had bare records from the late 90s into the early 2000s
Literally one of the founders (but not the only one) of what is now known as Grime. He was one of the first to start taking old garage and dancehall samples and making new dubplates/beats from them, many still used today. When he first hit the scene there wasn't even a name for the genre, based on Garage at 140 bpm. Grime also draws heavily on both Dancehall and Hip Hop but maintains the same Garage bpm, he even has a legendary track from that era called "Wiley - Wot do u call it?". He is not and has never been the most lyrical but he has some of the best flows and dubplate originals in the Grime game. You also need to remember we had sick sound system spitters and hip hop rappers 20+ years before Wiley 💯🔥
@@internationalferg I don't believe any one person if the originator of any musical genre, including Grime but he certainly helped lay the foundations. It takes a village to raise a child as the saying goes. There are too many contributing people and factors for me. I mean I can go as far back as tracks like "Genaside II - Narra Mine" from around 1990/1 which was essentially a "dance" track but the last 3 minutes of it are Killerman Archer going absolutely ham at over 140 Bpm. Archer was a sound system / dancehall spitter and he would in turn have been influenced by both his ragga/reggae roots as well as the early UK Jungle scene. All genres take bits from other genres I feel. I think we would have to go back hundreds or thousands of years to find the real originators of "music", everything is family. Sorry for a crazy long answer 💯👊
@@internationalferg I know this is the wrong video for the following comment but, hell, I just came from seeing NoLay's new premiere (an hour old), she tore off a couple of heads "Nolay | The Godmother (Wiley War Dub) [Audio]: SBTV" 🥶 If he is claiming to be the Godfather she is not happy about it, she went ham! Shots sent in more than one direction, jump on that while it's hot off the press 🔥
Bro, i noticed in from watching alot of your reactions, that you have never reacted to Wileys Crew, Roll Deep, where alot of things started, before dizzie left, roll deep were beefing with so so solid crew, which is where all the dizzie and wiley drama started (long story) but roll deep were huge for the grime scene, the stuff with dizzie is rare but u should def react to them
Grime merged from jungle, garage. So Solid Crew were the first sound of grime, Wiley, Dizzee, Roll Deep, Nastee Crew (Marcus Nasty, Nasty Jack, Griminal, DdoubleE, Ghetts). If youre looking for a documentary you got to check: RiskyRoadz. Any beats from the UK are influenced by Maniac production and Rude Kid. Maniac is 1 of the main producers from the begining who is still relevant with newer artists like DigDat, Unknown T.
The main hub was Rhythm division in roman road. WILEY - wot u call it, was recorded in the shop. Few freestyles on Risky Roadz dvd have loads of legends spitting bars outside etc. But yea.. Wiley, Gods Gift, Crazy Titch, Stormin, Ghetts, Tempa T, Bomb Squad, Roll Deep, Ruff Squad, Devlin and Dogzilla, JME, Frisco, Skepta, Big H, Prez T, Chipmunk, Ice Kid, Shizz/Lil Shit, Wolf Pack E3... this was the formation of grime at the begining.
it stems from MC's wayy back rapping over UK Garage, Drum & Bass & Dubstep because Rap instrumentals from america was too slow and it was America's thing but most UK rappers just attempted to sound american and flow like americans then the generation of Wiley came along and decidied lets do our own thing lets rap at a faster pace with a different genre of beats influenced by Garage & dubstep then these MC's would go and battle rap for fun with this sound and the flow but Grime is so much more than just a genre it became most young black mens way of life it was a style an aura and a tool to go out rap other MC's then by this point the UK fans grew up with it lived it attempted to rap like these guys and started loving the UK scene and sound for what it was rather than just listening to Dr Dre Eminem 50 Cent all these guys who started becoming massive with MTV back in the day
International Ferg nah, personally I think Wiley’s Skengman series is slept on. I just think that’s the general consensus that he got smoked. I think Stormzy’s beat choice had a major impact on opinions, and some of the bars in Still Disappointed just hit harder than a lot of Wiley’s punches, that’s where he really edged him out for me. Wiley definitely came with it too though.
So solid Crew were also pioneers as they had a sound that was more garage but with rapping in English accents. Previously everyone who rapped tried to sound American.
At the time of this freestyle Wiley ghetts and skepta where the best 2007/2008 times. Honorable shout to dot rotten as he was seriously leveling at this time
If you want to know more about the history of grime this book is defo worth a read. Inner City Pressure: The Story of Grime g.co/kgs/1BNdTz Its probably only one version of story but basically teenage DJs slimzee and genius who weren't in with the coked up dancefloor UK Garage sound in early 2000s set up Rinse FM pirate radio playing a darker garage sound and jungle mcs started spitting on it. Dancehall clashing culture mixed in and people like wiley started producing, called his sound eskimo or eskibeats. No one called it grime til much later hence wiley's 2003 tune 'wot u call it'. Wiley wasnt the only one but definitely one of main originators. Many pirate radio stations and crews started across London but centred in east London. Lots of it was about availability of pirated production software like fruity loops which led to bedroom producers creating those trashy sounding 140bpm beats but if you want to hear it done brilliantly check danny weed, ruff squad and loads of others. Wiley has always given younger artists a leg up and he did that with Dizzee Rascal whose 2004 self produced album won that year's mercury music award (best album of year in uk) which put him and grime into mainstream. Journalists called it grime because they had to give the dark garage sound a name. It's basically diy punk music made by poor inner city multicultural kids with influences from all over but obviously dancehall, European dance music and hip hop. Other mcs there at or near the start were nasty crew, kano, ghetts, jme, skepta, lethal bizzle, crazy titch, d double e, roll deep and absolutely loads of others but many of these have had lasting success. Wiley and others cashed in and went pop (fair play £) in mid to late 00s, many said grime was dead but some people stayed true to the sound and there has been a resurgence in last 5 years which has also shone the spotlight on other uk black/urban music like drill, uk rap and afrobeats scenes which have replaced indie rock as most popular sounds in uk now. Noone has ever really broken America, Stormzy or Dave might. My money is on dave too, he's a phenomenal talent.
Before Grime was Garage. So Solid Crew ( Where Asher D/Ashley Walter's came from) probably opened the gates for Grime/ UK urban in general. Check out So Solid - Oh No, 21 Seconds and They Dont Know.
Dizzee was Wiley's protoje so to speak. Grime was influence by UK garage and dancehall. Boy in da corner was the first grime album that went mainstream.
Grime came out of a cross between UK garage and Jungle Drum and bass with spittin. fire MC's back then. and jungle was cross between dancehall ragga and hardcore. old school hardcore darkside.
This is true uk grime at its best, things have moved on a bit now with drill and other styles taking over but grime came from a mixture of scenes that were already going mainly garage which was a little more instrumental electronic, jungle which was kind of like drum and bass but with mcs on top, also uk hip hop which was around a long time before plus a mixture of american hip hop and Caribbean culture like bashment etc and a little bit of house music tempos, Wiley just took it to another level,
Dizzee and all roll deep sketchy, Eski boy (wiley) tinchy strider, Skepta, jme, jammer, all the OG's were in roll deep. They refined the eski beats Wiley produced into grime. Saw a flipping great gig at East River Park New York back in the day with roll deep, Dj cameo, Kano and Ghetto(Ghetts) back to back freestyle for 45 minutes straight. Jules Santana as well. Faith SFX. New York crowd weren't ready for grime. They rude af. Booed and everything lol. Used to have it on tape but it got chewed up. Gutted I was.
Sup bro think i commented on your first wiley reaction. Gave a bit of history about wiley. Maybe give Roll Deep a listen its just one of many of his crews he started. Roll deep - when im era. Roll deep - badman They would be good start. Hes from Trinidad and Tobago Heres a good 5min document ua-cam.com/video/Zkntuu1CsMI/v-deo.html
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I don’t know why I’m going throw your videos and writing all this lol but How Grime started. Dance music was big and its also called garage but they were like our version of RnB because they had the big budget music videos and could go on tours but Wiley (who’s Jamaican and London has a big Caribbean and African population) wanted to make music that’s more relatable to what he sees in his surrounding which is grimy (that’s where it gets it’s name), he wanted it to be more lyrical than the dance songs like the HipHop but it’s also fast and beats are usually at 140 that’s why people nominally say Ghetts is the best also clashing is a big deal in Grime and if you see Beenie man v Bounty Killer on verzuz you can see we get the influence
Need to durrty goodz switching songs part 2 he raps from garage jungle into grime over all beats and flows is like 6 and half minutes long is epic and should also check out his beef with Wiley is sick 👌🏻✌🏻
Wiley doesn't get the credit he deserves because grime is a niche underground genre, very few people have gone mainstream with grime songs. The problem grime has is it doesn't appeal to the majority, the lyrics are too fast for someone who doesn't frequently listen to it, the lyrics are creative and filled with so much slang that the majority of people don't understand it. If we take rap for example the African American and Hispanic communities are quite big minority groups and you rap at a tempo most people can understand. Where as the black British population is only 3% of the population and we speak a slang which is heavily influenced by our relation to the Carribbean. Meaning the white British majority just doesn't understand. A lot of white British people speak patwa because they grew up around us, but they just think it's English slang. 😂
he would be like one of the OG in the industry, but lets just say he aint no sell out so he may be one amongst the fans but the industry doesn't promote him.
Check out new wiley stuff igloo freestyle is a new one just dropped the godfather returns to grime Grime came from a raw urban version of uk garage wiley done garage with dizzee rascal befor creating grime
Grime originated from East London Wiley the godfather, alongside Dizzee rascal; Kano; d double E; Crazy titch (who’s in jail) Many others. Then the like if Skepta; Ghetts etc came through, still same era. Grime started by Wiley and his turn called Wot you call it, was what started of grime.
Please check silverdrizzle or dametalmessiah channels for the best experience of grime in its purest form. Its integral you do this if you want to understand our culture.. and how it was pioneerd. you'll learn so much from those 2 channels. From clashes, sets to beats and old dvd documentarys.
If you want some history to Grime here's a pretty decent video from VOX, it would be dope to see you react to it ua-cam.com/video/Am2sYBhg_hM/v-deo.html
Is this Wiley best freestyles ever?
Dope is it like one video each
He’s gotta few Iv been listening to Wiley since the beginning when he battled Kano, you should
Do a reaction video on that one bro
Lord of the mics Wiley vs Kano
smuntdogmillionaire definitely is it lord of the mic?
International Ferg ua-cam.com/video/nTF_T47CDnI/v-deo.html
This is the one bro
Grime comes from Garage music, Jungle music and Dancehall/Bashment music. But all of these forms of UK music have origins in Jamaican British culture. Raggamuffin music.
Dope thanks a lot yeah I can tell is so dope man is crazy surprised it’s not huge
@@internationalferg Because the U.S music scene is so big the majority of American hiphop fans never would be able to hear our scene nor care too much back then plus youtube and the internet wasn't what it is today.
@@internationalferg US influence as well though, the NY sound like Wu and that really got big here way back a lot of UK hip hop is very Wu based, but Grime is a parallel stream its not born from Hip hop, but its influenced by it, but more of its foundation is Carribean based, to me Grime is to hip hop what Metal was to Rock and Roll, its made in the UK with the influences the UK has, Culturally we have a stronger connection to Carribean than US
An hes influenced by punk music
He was in a crew called “pay as you go cartel” had a nice clash with “Heartless Crew”.
Wiley didn't start it by himself but he was probably the most important figure in the creation of grime.
he started eski which branched from garage
he was MC'ing over garage beats and the garage scene didnt want him involved, so he said fuck u ill make my own sound, hence "what do call it?"
Dope dope!!!
Wiley - 6 in da bloodclart morning
This song bangs #freewiley
9 months later I’m listening to him 6 in da morning 😂
Back then, grime wasn't mainstream at all. That's why he doesn't get the recognition he deserves. He peaked when radio wouldn't play grime and had to go pop to sell.
Godfather Of Grime 👑 🔥
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Agreed that he not getting the reconition he should from the todays youths but he got a OBE (award from the queen) for contibution to music.
MCR Gaming dope who else ever got one
@@internationalferg skepta refused one
He is west indian and his dad was a reggae artist - -- He is a genius.. he turned old school jamaican mc style to grime amazing
you might as well react to Wiley vs Kano - Lord of the Mics
100% such a sick battle
I got you I will do it Asap
International Ferg same bro my request as well. Still waiting. You’ll enjoy this to!
A guy called Durrty Goodz was on Wileys level back then. You can check out his FITB or check out his track Goofy which takes shots at drake for trying to leech off the uk scene
Durrty Goodz a proper UK legend, same as his brother! Durrty Whirl is one of my all time favorite mixtapes, but I think they are all good, even the newer ones, He has shown a lot of versatility and skill throughout the years, got a lot of respect for Goodz, His 2002 war dubs with Wiley are legendary!
FR Agreed........ Ferg defo needs to check em out
Wiley/dizzy rascal and other were writing, fast rhymes to Drum and bass. The rhymes then sound like this flow on a uk garage beat. The flows just fit real tidy.
"Fire in the booth Drum and bass special" if you're interested in drum and bass.
The bpm is grime bpm which is 140bpm
Dope is UK drill taking over?
MF Doom was from the UK originally as well bro. I think a lot of Americans don't realise how big american hip-hop has been in the UK since the mid 90s its been as mainstream as it is in america, uk rappers were fully underground and got no radio play until the last 5-10 yrs. Grime originally came from a mix of garage and Jungle (similar to drum and bass music). Rapping first started in NY but originally it was called toasting (in Jamaica) when it was taken to america it was slowed down but when it was taken to the UK it sped up and thats now jungle music was born and was very big along with garage in the 90s
Wow dopeeee. Respect brother a lot of people want to learn this information!!
Check out his Vladtv interview to hear about his scar & just about him in general, it will be insightful for you.
ARTificial Intelligence dope checking at the second
His influence was garage Bro he was in a collective called payasyougo,
That was a half hearted reaction bro. How can you talk without pausing? And you didn’t even react to the whole thing? Damn
Grime is a combination of Jungle Music, Garage Music and even House music..... Wiley's Eski beats...i believe was inspired due to the fact that Wiley's a Caribbean (Barbados, i think) who moved to England....where its *COLD* .....Wiley is a person who came from a Tropical climate who moved to an area where it gets cold (and even after 20 years of living in London......you can tell that he _still_ isn't used to the Cold!) when you see Richard Cowie receiving his MBE award....his teeth is chattering! I think the creation of Eskibeats was a result of Mr. Cowie coping with living a freezing climate.
Yeah dance hall,garage, hip hop
Wiley Wot U Call It? is the first track he made. It's a throwback to when they didnt know what to call it. Garage was the genre popular at the time. So you hear it's not garage. Is it two step? Urban? It eventually settled on Grime. But that is the start of it
Vambo 13 dope bro imma react to that song so is that the originator song?
@@internationalferg Yes it's his first record
Vambo 13 dopeeee I bet it sounds super dated lol
@@internationalferg This is the crazy thing, your reaction to it will probably be the same as most people in the UK at the time. We hadn't heard anything like it before. But yes from what it is now it does sound dated lol but we have a soft spot for it.
@@internationalferg It's not his first record. He was part of a collective called Pay As You Go Cartel and they had bare records from the late 90s into the early 2000s
Payasyougo were big in garage and thet were around when grime started to kick off
Literally one of the founders (but not the only one) of what is now known as Grime. He was one of the first to start taking old garage and dancehall samples and making new dubplates/beats from them, many still used today. When he first hit the scene there wasn't even a name for the genre, based on Garage at 140 bpm. Grime also draws heavily on both Dancehall and Hip Hop but maintains the same Garage bpm, he even has a legendary track from that era called "Wiley - Wot do u call it?". He is not and has never been the most lyrical but he has some of the best flows and dubplate originals in the Grime game. You also need to remember we had sick sound system spitters and hip hop rappers 20+ years before Wiley 💯🔥
Dopeeee so would you say he is the originator
@@internationalferg I don't believe any one person if the originator of any musical genre, including Grime but he certainly helped lay the foundations. It takes a village to raise a child as the saying goes. There are too many contributing people and factors for me. I mean I can go as far back as tracks like "Genaside II - Narra Mine" from around 1990/1 which was essentially a "dance" track but the last 3 minutes of it are Killerman Archer going absolutely ham at over 140 Bpm. Archer was a sound system / dancehall spitter and he would in turn have been influenced by both his ragga/reggae roots as well as the early UK Jungle scene. All genres take bits from other genres I feel. I think we would have to go back hundreds or thousands of years to find the real originators of "music", everything is family. Sorry for a crazy long answer 💯👊
ɛƈʂɬąʂıơ naw that dope bro I love learning about the culture
@@internationalferg I know this is the wrong video for the following comment but, hell, I just came from seeing NoLay's new premiere (an hour old), she tore off a couple of heads "Nolay | The Godmother (Wiley War Dub) [Audio]: SBTV" 🥶 If he is claiming to be the Godfather she is not happy about it, she went ham! Shots sent in more than one direction, jump on that while it's hot off the press 🔥
Bro, i noticed in from watching alot of your reactions, that you have never reacted to Wileys Crew, Roll Deep, where alot of things started, before dizzie left, roll deep were beefing with so so solid crew, which is where all the dizzie and wiley drama started (long story) but roll deep were huge for the grime scene, the stuff with dizzie is rare but u should def react to them
Wiley was an MC on pirate radio n dnb n garage raves in the 90’s, mixed with uk hip hop and that is where Grime has come from
Same goes for Dizzee Rascal
And there are videos of old skool beef from 20 years ago
The flow state is real. Wiley is a top don
Grime merged from jungle, garage. So Solid Crew were the first sound of grime, Wiley, Dizzee, Roll Deep, Nastee Crew (Marcus Nasty, Nasty Jack, Griminal, DdoubleE, Ghetts). If youre looking for a documentary you got to check: RiskyRoadz. Any beats from the UK are influenced by Maniac production and Rude Kid. Maniac is 1 of the main producers from the begining who is still relevant with newer artists like DigDat, Unknown T.
The main hub was Rhythm division in roman road. WILEY - wot u call it, was recorded in the shop. Few freestyles on Risky Roadz dvd have loads of legends spitting bars outside etc. But yea.. Wiley, Gods Gift, Crazy Titch, Stormin, Ghetts, Tempa T, Bomb Squad, Roll Deep, Ruff Squad, Devlin and Dogzilla, JME, Frisco, Skepta, Big H, Prez T, Chipmunk, Ice Kid, Shizz/Lil Shit, Wolf Pack E3... this was the formation of grime at the begining.
Can't forget about Heartless Crew
Wiley back in the day was a different level MC
Everybody fuck with wiley bro he the godfather of this whole shit man
it stems from MC's wayy back rapping over UK Garage, Drum & Bass & Dubstep because Rap instrumentals from america was too slow and it was America's thing but most UK rappers just attempted to sound american and flow like americans then the generation of Wiley came along and decidied lets do our own thing lets rap at a faster pace with a different genre of beats influenced by Garage & dubstep then these MC's would go and battle rap for fun with this sound and the flow but Grime is so much more than just a genre it became most young black mens way of life it was a style an aura and a tool to go out rap other MC's then by this point the UK fans grew up with it lived it attempted to rap like these guys and started loving the UK scene and sound for what it was rather than just listening to Dr Dre Eminem 50 Cent all these guys who started becoming massive with MTV back in the day
Dope man that was deep. Is there any dope documentary’s
International Ferg yeahh man there’s loads of documentaries I can link you a few if you want let me know
Cannot believe that you think the 2nd beat was trash 😳
It's an absolute banging evocative classic.
Wiley is a monster bro. I think a lot of younger folks don’t appreciate his legacy because Stormzy kinda smoked him in the beef.
🤦🏾♂️ I wouldn’t say smoked him lol
International Ferg nah, personally I think Wiley’s Skengman series is slept on. I just think that’s the general consensus that he got smoked. I think Stormzy’s beat choice had a major impact on opinions, and some of the bars in Still Disappointed just hit harder than a lot of Wiley’s punches, that’s where he really edged him out for me. Wiley definitely came with it too though.
Stormzy did not smoke Wiley
Sam January I’m not saying he did, but that’s the common perception.
only little kids think stormzy smoked wiley... wiley is the godfather of grime...
East London
Fully paused the best bar. “Your girlfriends not satisfied by you so she got a rabbit”
So solid Crew were also pioneers as they had a sound that was more garage but with rapping in English accents. Previously everyone who rapped tried to sound American.
Where did you get that Bugs Bunny hoodie?
Wiley’s from Bow E3, In East London 💯
Bow been gifting us! Dizzee and Wiley inside 6 years of one another 🔥
At the time of this freestyle Wiley ghetts and skepta where the best 2007/2008 times. Honorable shout to dot rotten as he was seriously leveling at this time
the whole of the UK was fucking with back then ngl, and I was around 9/10 then
Listen to the movement fire in the booth its sick
If you want to know more about the history of grime this book is defo worth a read. Inner City Pressure: The Story of Grime g.co/kgs/1BNdTz
Its probably only one version of story but basically teenage DJs slimzee and genius who weren't in with the coked up dancefloor UK Garage sound in early 2000s set up Rinse FM pirate radio playing a darker garage sound and jungle mcs started spitting on it. Dancehall clashing culture mixed in and people like wiley started producing, called his sound eskimo or eskibeats. No one called it grime til much later hence wiley's 2003 tune 'wot u call it'. Wiley wasnt the only one but definitely one of main originators. Many pirate radio stations and crews started across London but centred in east London. Lots of it was about availability of pirated production software like fruity loops which led to bedroom producers creating those trashy sounding 140bpm beats but if you want to hear it done brilliantly check danny weed, ruff squad and loads of others. Wiley has always given younger artists a leg up and he did that with Dizzee Rascal whose 2004 self produced album won that year's mercury music award (best album of year in uk) which put him and grime into mainstream. Journalists called it grime because they had to give the dark garage sound a name. It's basically diy punk music made by poor inner city multicultural kids with influences from all over but obviously dancehall, European dance music and hip hop. Other mcs there at or near the start were nasty crew, kano, ghetts, jme, skepta, lethal bizzle, crazy titch, d double e, roll deep and absolutely loads of others but many of these have had lasting success. Wiley and others cashed in and went pop (fair play £) in mid to late 00s, many said grime was dead but some people stayed true to the sound and there has been a resurgence in last 5 years which has also shone the spotlight on other uk black/urban music like drill, uk rap and afrobeats scenes which have replaced indie rock as most popular sounds in uk now. Noone has ever really broken America, Stormzy or Dave might. My money is on dave too, he's a phenomenal talent.
Before Grime was Garage. So Solid Crew ( Where Asher D/Ashley Walter's came from) probably opened the gates for Grime/ UK urban in general. Check out So Solid - Oh No, 21 Seconds and They Dont Know.
Dope imma on it as I do it Imma shout you out !!
Wiley smashed that and you do a great job breaking down the uk 🇬🇧 rappers Wiley the king of grime no doubt grime king 👑 savers 💯
Wiley don’t get the credit he deserves. Wiley is King
Dizzee was Wiley's protoje so to speak. Grime was influence by UK garage and dancehall. Boy in da corner was the first grime album that went mainstream.
Grime came out of a cross between UK garage and Jungle Drum and bass with spittin. fire MC's back then. and jungle was cross between dancehall ragga and hardcore. old school hardcore darkside.
This is true uk grime at its best, things have moved on a bit now with drill and other styles taking over but grime came from a mixture of scenes that were already going mainly garage which was a little more instrumental electronic, jungle which was kind of like drum and bass but with mcs on top, also uk hip hop which was around a long time before plus a mixture of american hip hop and Caribbean culture like bashment etc and a little bit of house music tempos, Wiley just took it to another level,
You need to look into uk hip hop pre garage and grime era, some amazing artists, DJ louis Slipperz £10 bag will blow you away link below
ua-cam.com/video/qxQ0lR5mvBE/v-deo.html
Crazy
140 bpm. Pure. Grime.
You may have missed the lyrics, patrol foot locker, ex brown shotter. Meaning he used to sell heroin
Wiley and Dizzee Rascal made Grime famous then Kano and Lethal Bizzle came shortly after who blew it up further then Boy Better Know blew up
I love when Americans do reactions I did the same when I watched it all the years ago he was really hungry then he went all in
Dizzee and all roll deep sketchy, Eski boy (wiley) tinchy strider, Skepta, jme, jammer, all the OG's were in roll deep. They refined the eski beats Wiley produced into grime. Saw a flipping great gig at East River Park New York back in the day with roll deep, Dj cameo, Kano and Ghetto(Ghetts) back to back freestyle for 45 minutes straight. Jules Santana as well. Faith SFX. New York crowd weren't ready for grime. They rude af. Booed and everything lol. Used to have it on tape but it got chewed up. Gutted I was.
love this freestyle
Wiley = legend
Ye know what bro I never realised how shit the beats were man did man dirty 😂
Sup bro think i commented on your first wiley reaction. Gave a bit of history about wiley.
Maybe give Roll Deep a listen its just one of many of his crews he started.
Roll deep - when im era.
Roll deep - badman
They would be good start.
Hes from Trinidad and Tobago
Heres a good 5min document ua-cam.com/video/Zkntuu1CsMI/v-deo.html
Dope thanks a lot saving it now
ORIGINAL CREATOR OF UK GRIME.. NO QUESTIONS DO YOUR HOMEWORK LOVE ALL THE REAL PAYG NASTY ROLL DEEP EAST CONNECTION BOYZ IN DA HOOD.... EAST LONDON ALL DAY O. G
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Wiley started it all and skepta used to be wileys DJ lol
You need to react to wiley off the radar
Snap capone fire in the booth 👌
check out skepta morgue or autopsy
I don’t know why I’m going throw your videos and writing all this lol but How Grime started. Dance music was big and its also called garage but they were like our version of RnB because they had the big budget music videos and could go on tours but Wiley (who’s Jamaican and London has a big Caribbean and African population) wanted to make music that’s more relatable to what he sees in his surrounding which is grimy (that’s where it gets it’s name), he wanted it to be more lyrical than the dance songs like the HipHop but it’s also fast and beats are usually at 140 that’s why people nominally say Ghetts is the best also clashing is a big deal in Grime and if you see Beenie man v Bounty Killer on verzuz you can see we get the influence
Why is it hard for your boy to catch our accent? We sound so plain anyway, lol🤣
He's from Bow e3
The Don
Need to durrty goodz switching songs part 2 he raps from garage jungle into grime over all beats and flows is like 6 and half minutes long is epic and should also check out his beef with Wiley is sick 👌🏻✌🏻
God of grime.that is
yo man really like you're reactions but could you turn your voice down slightly and the music up slightly xD
Also that first beat is legendary wdym
Influenced from reggae and dancehall garage and rap
Wiley said he was influenced from reggae as his dad was a musician I think
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Bpm is 140 Bro, quick flows
Wiley doesn't get the credit he deserves because grime is a niche underground genre, very few people have gone mainstream with grime songs. The problem grime has is it doesn't appeal to the majority, the lyrics are too fast for someone who doesn't frequently listen to it, the lyrics are creative and filled with so much slang that the majority of people don't understand it. If we take rap for example the African American and Hispanic communities are quite big minority groups and you rap at a tempo most people can understand. Where as the black British population is only 3% of the population and we speak a slang which is heavily influenced by our relation to the Carribbean. Meaning the white British majority just doesn't understand. A lot of white British people speak patwa because they grew up around us, but they just think it's English slang. 😂
It come from the streets
140bpm Dun know!
he would be like one of the OG in the industry, but lets just say he aint no sell out so he may be one amongst the fans but the industry doesn't promote him.
140bpm, I'm a G in
Influences are dancehall/ragga, dumb and bass music and hip hop
Tommy gun was here 🇬🇧
React to ghetts Westwood freestyle from 2009, will blow your head off
He from bow
Check out new wiley stuff igloo freestyle is a new one just dropped the godfather returns to grime
Grime came from a raw urban version of uk garage wiley done garage with dizzee rascal befor creating grime
Bow E3 East London
Probably 140bpm
Grime originated from East London
Wiley the godfather, alongside Dizzee rascal; Kano; d double E; Crazy titch (who’s in jail)
Many others. Then the like if Skepta; Ghetts etc came through, still same era. Grime started by Wiley and his turn called Wot you call it, was what started of grime.
Them beats are grime bro.
Can't believe he called that beat "trash" 😳 nah, I'm not having that at all.
My man's gone down in my estimation.
Chip v Yungen beef
Chip v Bugzy
180 bpm
Also the beat ain’t trash 😂 it’s eski beat it’s wileys sound
Please check silverdrizzle or dametalmessiah channels for the best experience of grime in its purest form. Its integral you do this if you want to understand our culture.. and how it was pioneerd. you'll learn so much from those 2 channels. From clashes, sets to beats and old dvd documentarys.
He dont get the credit ca the new gen would rather listen to a rainbow haired snitch with a sex position tattooed on his head😂🤦♂️
140bpm
He got stabbed 21 times dude
If you want some history to Grime here's a pretty decent video from VOX, it would be dope to see you react to it ua-cam.com/video/Am2sYBhg_hM/v-deo.html
Dope I got you Imma shout you when I do it
Why do Americans not able to understand British urban accents!!?
Bruv you keep talking over it
140bps
Talked over the best bars ffs
Wiley kano jammer
no
Westwood always plays wack grime beats I swear. Poor mixer as well