If there’s one thing I’ve learned from watching Kibler, the intermediate-step discovers from this quest often impact the game more than the reward itself
That's actually true for every questline. Sometimes even just the first step already makes up for the 1 mana you invested on turn 1, then you get an extra booster on step 2 and then a wincon on 3. It's almost a mistake not to play the quests given the efficiency per mana spent. Hence why several of them are kinda broken.
For those who don't have Alura (such as dusting her when she was nerfed), try Grand Archivist. The extra cost doesn't tend to matter much, plus it's hilarious.
Nowadays the way cost reduction works with the quest is that it counts the actual mana you spend. E.g. if you draw Mutanus with a corrupted insight and play him for 5, it will count as a 5, and will not count as a 7. Back on release the system was a bit bugged, and a case I remember was that playing an 8-cost card that has been reduced by 1 counted for BOTH the 7 and 8-cost step, completing that whole step with a single card. Sadly it got patched, it's not like that fringe case made the card any good.
I always said the quest depends on the meta. I always knew the questline for priest was busted. I got to legend 2 months in a row with questline priest in standard. The best part is the quest becomes more busted the slower the meta. Having a way to just insta kill your opponent, heal, card draw/generation, and have board presence is nasty.
Standard meta is usually slower than wild in terms of powerlevels. You'll find a ton of aggro decks in wild, where as you'll find more balanced control decks in standard. Not to say either archetype doesn't exist in either. Just from my own experience.
@@RealityRogue I played it for a while some years ago when it had Ragnaros, Y'Shaarj and Lich King just because they were cool cards, the current version of big priest just seems so bland and uninteresting when it comes to the minions they run, seems like something that you'd get bored of playing in like 3 games
@@RealityRogue so far it's one of the hardest matchups i've seen for the pirate quest warrior. Even with juggernaut out, the minions it summons and keeps bringing back cost far too much to keep pounding through since pirate decks need to do their dmg with minions for the most part edit: I don't play hunter much but I assume they're also pretty hard for quest hunter as well
my quest priest deck building was similar, but i included the Elekk mount another pull from high abyss Aulura to have a better chance going into pirates warrior, token druid, elemental shaman and most of the board-based aggro matchups. its basically a win-con sometimes. i did not include Galakrond in the deck and filled it with lower curve, having nearly no cards to be able to complete the final stage is very bad, but surviving is more important so i have a lot of board competing minions instead to get a better chance to survive (decks like even warlock and token druid are nearly impossible to beat since we dont have other spells to play against them, fun and interactive eh?)
Good video as usual, Roffle! Though the audio seemed a lot quieter than usual, I had to turn my audio way up to hear it and got jump-scared by an end-of-video ad at full volume. Might just be me tho
You could equally just play Shadow Visions and discover the reward the turn you play Xyrella - thus still casting the shard the following turn. The only real benefit to this version is if you Xyrella Alura coin all in one turn. You can also run 2 shadow visions as opposed to 1 Alura
@@JustaBigMan you can also play Archivist on the same turn as Xyrella. But you have to go second to get the coin… and generate two more coins from Licensed Adventurer
Yeah, I love priest, but I'm not going to lie, I did not like this quest-line (from a design stand point, not power level). It feels like it forces priest into a tempo heavy deck and gives them card draw (which is fine, most priest lists in Standard win the most games when they push tempo while keeping enough value generation to win in the late game), but simultaneously while enabling a tempo-heavy playstyle, they shut out any slow value decks chance of winning. So many control deck options get straight murdered by this quest reward's existence. Dead Man's Hand Warrior (I know, it's painful to play against), but it never wins against this deck, ever. Any kind of fatigue deck (bar quest-line warlock) straight loses. Any deck that's too slow (like big priest, or old quest priest)? Always loses. You pretty much have to combo it out every time, because the discovers give you a good shot against midrange, and priest having really efficient taunts and heals make it solid against aggro (relatively, probably sub 50% w/r, but still). Yet it loses to combo every time. I don't know, I've come back to HS after a bit of a break, and it seems like the Stormwind set was designed specifically to keep control standard decks C tier. Ignite, Juggernaut from questline warrior, burn mage, questline warlock, hell even questline hunter, this priest deck forever lurking if combo loses favor- it's like every single archetype even if it isn't pushed enough to be anything above B tier exists to make sure control in any form never does. I get a lot of players want ~10 minute games they can jam on lunch break, but as an old collegiate competitor... I just miss control. :(
well, the deck probably sucks. It doesn't make much sense to add a slow wincon that requires a very specific design to a deck that already has it's own (and faster) wincon. Raza priest is supposed to be fast and use lots of cheap cards to OTK, quest just makes it awkward and bricky.
Damn, if you could have given the enemy in your first game just one more turn to see if they would actually have gotten the winning card... This will keep me awake xD Also it would have been like the most amazing bamboozle to get bitten in the ass by your own win condition ^^ I think I would have thrown the round on purpose just to witness it.
@@josiahogilvie1736 They're THE SAME PERSON. Josiah doesn't understand Roffles™ #CancelJosiahOgilvie For real, dude, just watch the show match between them on Solem's channel, they are joking they're the same person, start googling before cancelling anyone, I really feel bad for you
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from watching Kibler, the intermediate-step discovers from this quest often impact the game more than the reward itself
Its 1 mana draw two in Priest. Pretty rare effect.
That's actually true for every questline. Sometimes even just the first step already makes up for the 1 mana you invested on turn 1, then you get an extra booster on step 2 and then a wincon on 3. It's almost a mistake not to play the quests given the efficiency per mana spent. Hence why several of them are kinda broken.
@@lMarcusl except warlock
@@kemalsorucuoglu3689 Where it is undeniably and utterly broken.
Laughs in hunter
You know how cultured Roffle is when his 4 drop of choice is the CHEESE
To be fair every warlock in history has been playing cheese on turn 4 since voidcaller came out.
Cheese is quite cultured, in deed.
VoidLord really made it pop
VoidLord really made it pop
As a soulsborne veteran in can confirm this. There cant be enough cheese.
he finally plays this deck huh
The stream those games are from was almost 2 weeks ago though. And he went 5/3 overall, only losing to 2 warlocks and a hunter.
Just asking, wouldn't if feel better if the shard's animation straight STABBED the opponent and exploded? Would be nice
Nah a gun is fine
Here we have a holy artifact of immense power. Shank this guy with it.
For those who don't have Alura (such as dusting her when she was nerfed), try Grand Archivist. The extra cost doesn't tend to matter much, plus it's hilarious.
Nowadays the way cost reduction works with the quest is that it counts the actual mana you spend. E.g. if you draw Mutanus with a corrupted insight and play him for 5, it will count as a 5, and will not count as a 7. Back on release the system was a bit bugged, and a case I remember was that playing an 8-cost card that has been reduced by 1 counted for BOTH the 7 and 8-cost step, completing that whole step with a single card. Sadly it got patched, it's not like that fringe case made the card any good.
Yep my opponent played celestial alignment yesterday, cannot complete the quest cos of it
@@lazykun5614 use more win condition's
I always said the quest depends on the meta. I always knew the questline for priest was busted. I got to legend 2 months in a row with questline priest in standard.
The best part is the quest becomes more busted the slower the meta. Having a way to just insta kill your opponent, heal, card draw/generation, and have board presence is nasty.
Standard meta is usually slower than wild in terms of powerlevels. You'll find a ton of aggro decks in wild, where as you'll find more balanced control decks in standard. Not to say either archetype doesn't exist in either. Just from my own experience.
"I hope this is big priest" The first time anyone has ever said this phrase.
Wrong, I play a fair amount of mill rogue and big priest is free.
*laughs in combo deck*
Big priest has been bullied for over a year. I don’t know why people still play it
@@RealityRogue I played it for a while some years ago when it had Ragnaros, Y'Shaarj and Lich King just because they were cool cards, the current version of big priest just seems so bland and uninteresting when it comes to the minions they run, seems like something that you'd get bored of playing in like 3 games
@@RealityRogue so far it's one of the hardest matchups i've seen for the pirate quest warrior. Even with juggernaut out, the minions it summons and keeps bringing back cost far too much to keep pounding through since pirate decks need to do their dmg with minions for the most part
edit: I don't play hunter much but I assume they're also pretty hard for quest hunter as well
my quest priest deck building was similar, but i included the Elekk mount another pull from high abyss Aulura to have a better chance going into pirates warrior, token druid, elemental shaman and most of the board-based aggro matchups. its basically a win-con sometimes.
i did not include Galakrond in the deck and filled it with lower curve, having nearly no cards to be able to complete the final stage is very bad, but surviving is more important so i have a lot of board competing minions instead to get a better chance to survive
(decks like even warlock and token druid are nearly impossible to beat since we dont have other spells to play against them, fun and interactive eh?)
Finally the deck I’ve been waiting for. Hope I actually get to see the final spell played.
“Become the hero this world needs” just never gets old enough in this obscure meta
alura is actually very in flavor with the quest
Wand thief is pretty good in this deck
You really think you can put a mage/rogue minion into a priest deck?
@@fangerzstanky i think they must have meant wandmaker
it's finally here. I was wondering how long it would be until we saw you play it. My bet was on after you played the rouge quest but I was mistaken.
6:48
Oh it would be quite a meme if he casted your own shard on you...
Ah nice idea a deck full monster from play the quest of priest
"Bird. *BANG*"
Bolf would be significantly better if he just had taunt. He still wouldn’t be good, but he might be kinda maybe useful as a tech card sometimes.
I've been playing a Reno dragon version for the last month and loving it.
Good video as usual, Roffle! Though the audio seemed a lot quieter than usual, I had to turn my audio way up to hear it and got jump-scared by an end-of-video ad at full volume. Might just be me tho
Cheese dude is such a funny card
I totally forgot that Alura can cheat out the spell. This is smart, I may just try n get the deck LOL
You could equally just play Shadow Visions and discover the reward the turn you play Xyrella - thus still casting the shard the following turn. The only real benefit to this version is if you Xyrella Alura coin all in one turn. You can also run 2 shadow visions as opposed to 1 Alura
Betteridge's law of headlines
A sincere thank you for informing me of this law.
Wouldn't Grand Archivist as your 8s be a more efficient way of doing it? Then you don't have to run spell generators
No, becoz you have to play xyrella and then the archivist. 8 mana do nothing is just bad
@@Multillision High Abbess Allura is also a dead card unless the quest in is your deck, but she’s the only thing that makes the deck even playable
@@XDak0 you can play Allura and Xyrella at the same time, but not Archivist and Xyrella
@@JustaBigMan you can also play Archivist on the same turn as Xyrella. But you have to go second to get the coin… and generate two more coins from Licensed Adventurer
@@XDak0 That sounds like Allura with extra steps but worse
Wouldn't jeweled scarab be better than wandmaker?
This is kind of a budget deck for wild.
What do u think about Quest + Reno priest Roffle ?
Sludge Belcher in 2021 les go. Best card ever.
fun deck but drop galakrond, the pirate and the wandmakers for watchtower pack
Does Purified Shard work if your opponent has Mal'Ganis on the board?
yes, same as mechathun
@@youtubehandle102 ty!
Yeah, I love priest, but I'm not going to lie, I did not like this quest-line (from a design stand point, not power level). It feels like it forces priest into a tempo heavy deck and gives them card draw (which is fine, most priest lists in Standard win the most games when they push tempo while keeping enough value generation to win in the late game), but simultaneously while enabling a tempo-heavy playstyle, they shut out any slow value decks chance of winning.
So many control deck options get straight murdered by this quest reward's existence. Dead Man's Hand Warrior (I know, it's painful to play against), but it never wins against this deck, ever. Any kind of fatigue deck (bar quest-line warlock) straight loses. Any deck that's too slow (like big priest, or old quest priest)? Always loses.
You pretty much have to combo it out every time, because the discovers give you a good shot against midrange, and priest having really efficient taunts and heals make it solid against aggro (relatively, probably sub 50% w/r, but still). Yet it loses to combo every time.
I don't know, I've come back to HS after a bit of a break, and it seems like the Stormwind set was designed specifically to keep control standard decks C tier. Ignite, Juggernaut from questline warrior, burn mage, questline warlock, hell even questline hunter, this priest deck forever lurking if combo loses favor- it's like every single archetype even if it isn't pushed enough to be anything above B tier exists to make sure control in any form never does. I get a lot of players want ~10 minute games they can jam on lunch break, but as an old collegiate competitor... I just miss control. :(
Yesterday i got priest quest reward as warlock. Damm that was fun
Yogg->Devour mind
Next turn i won with spaming voiceline: *OH HO HO*
have you tried discard warlock yet?
has this spell been put into the yogg pool?
please tell me it has
no
I imagine casting the fragment giving your opponent the vaccine. Just as a joke.
I've been trying Raza Priest with this quest. Either the deck sucks or I suck at this game, bc the winrate is pretty low :(
Still fun though.
well, the deck probably sucks. It doesn't make much sense to add a slow wincon that requires a very specific design to a deck that already has it's own (and faster) wincon. Raza priest is supposed to be fast and use lots of cheap cards to OTK, quest just makes it awkward and bricky.
Roffle is the cheesiest hearthstone creator I know!
Lemme see how this hits
Damn, if you could have given the enemy in your first game just one more turn to see if they would actually have gotten the winning card...
This will keep me awake xD
Also it would have been like the most amazing bamboozle to get bitten in the ass by your own win condition ^^
I think I would have thrown the round on purpose just to witness it.
you were definitely not wrong dont worry
New deck: cheese priest
WandMAKER, not wand thief. Streamer doesn't know the game he plays( #Cancel_Solem
ROFFLE, not solem.
Commenter doesn't know the streamer he watches( #Cancel_PrayingHermit
@@josiahogilvie1736 They're THE SAME PERSON.
Josiah doesn't understand Roffles™ #CancelJosiahOgilvie
For real, dude, just watch the show match between them on Solem's channel, they are joking they're the same person, start googling before cancelling anyone, I really feel bad for you
"kill hero cards" is why I'm slowly hating this game
wow!
When Hunter and Warrior??? Why so priest? Stranger
Good afternoon Roffle, Runze and Deathwing, hope you have a good day
Have the nicest day guys
Good afternoon Jakob
@@Dylan03917 good afternoon
@@diddledulanyi4641 you too
good afternoon jakob, hope you have a good day
No.
I hopped that Bolf will stick long enough to see how useless card he is.
Ikr
It is ridiculos. 3 Priest and 1 Mage opponent. Where is the rest, especially Warrior? I guess, you lose.
21st like, 9+10?
Big Priest deserves to lose every game.
They do
It’s moooore easy with Primordial Protector instead of playing with 29 minions 😂
29 minions mean you can win on turn 10 primordial you win on turn 11 minimum
@@fangerzstanky but you have to play with 29 minions, the meta is aggro dude, you have to play some removal spells
@@Pain-hm9yd minions with removal work better these days
@@fangerzstanky i don’t think so, the priest has the best removal spells in the Game..
High Abbot Alura costs only 5, so it's possible with just a coin to win in the same turn as the Xyrella is played.
This deck sucks in standard unplayable actually.