M32 Quick Tip - DL32 FOH/Monitor Split

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  • @fabricejuniorbatouan8046
    @fabricejuniorbatouan8046 4 роки тому +46

    Hi Midas please make us another video that will explain us about outputs and gain control in this split configuration so we will be able to understand how make the setup process thanks

  • @OrlandoReyessonido
    @OrlandoReyessonido 8 років тому +25

    The outputs are not controlled by the main console, ONLY the GAIN, i have 2 Midas and a DL32 stagebox if you want separate control of GAINS, use an analog splitter snake

    • @scottcaldwell5806
      @scottcaldwell5806 7 років тому +3

      THIS is what I was looking for. So in this scenario, I cannot set up a separate gain structure on the M32R, correct? Not without using a splitter snake as you suggest (and I assumed was the case)? And I would have to only map the inputs on the M32R to the stage box, but leave the outputs local and use those local outputs for the monitors?

    • @BjorgenEatinger
      @BjorgenEatinger 5 років тому +4

      @@scottcaldwell5806 exactly. This Eric guy with MIDAS should go into that, and mention that the head amps on the FOH console are SHARED, thus the issue with not being able to control your gains at your monitor console.

    • @benedykt123313
      @benedykt123313 5 років тому +9

      @@BjorgenEatinger If you are using the gain structure right, then the monitor side won't have to change the gain ;) There is a HA gain split function though, which give some form of gain control in form of trim at the monitor end.

    • @BjorgenEatinger
      @BjorgenEatinger 5 років тому

      @@benedykt123313 There is an HA split function where? In the M32 console?

    • @benedykt123313
      @benedykt123313 5 років тому +1

      @@BjorgenEatinger Yeah, It's called HA Gain split in Setup -> Preamps I believe. I cant check it out right now since the musictribe site is fucked up at the moment and I dont have the editing software here.

  • @LaminarSound
    @LaminarSound 5 років тому +13

    Alright guys, this is what I need to do but I can't find answers as to whether or not it's possible: We have M32R at FOH currently and DL32 backstage. Love the setup, but want to add M32C to be used as the monitor console. What I want, is to free up all 16 mixbusses on my FOH console, and instead use the processing/mixbusses on the M32C for monitors, but I need all my monitor mixes to come out of the DL32. If I do that, where do I output my LR buss from to go to the PA? Do I need to pickup a second DL32???

  • @MimisK88
    @MimisK88 5 років тому +6

    In this setup, is there a way for Gain to have the stage console??

  • @rodbower6109
    @rodbower6109 7 років тому +9

    Can you show how to split outputs. Like 1-4 for FOH and 5-16 for Monitors... thanks

    • @benedykt123313
      @benedykt123313 5 років тому +2

      That's just basic routing. If you dont know how routing works, you might wanna catch up on some M/X32 basics first.

    • @robertduran4410
      @robertduran4410 2 роки тому +15

      @@benedykt123313 The guy just asked a question! Just answer that if you can, no need to try and make you look smarter! You don't need to be what letters 5, 6 and 7 of your name spell out!

  • @pkhumara
    @pkhumara 3 роки тому +1

    Our church has M32 and DL32 as well, and we want to setup in ear monitors for the musicians and vocalist. Can we get away without an additional on stage monitor?

  • @turfin2003
    @turfin2003 3 місяці тому

    Tried this in Cincinnati this weekend. But, I was trying to run my m32c/ dl32 as a IEM rack, and send to FOH(m32r).
    M32c to dl32 was on Aes50 A and ran Aes50 B to foh console. We set internal clock on foh to Aes50 B. No signal.

    • @estebanrojasr
      @estebanrojasr 3 місяці тому

      You want your IEMs coming from the DL32, right? And your mains from the M32R? That way you can control your IEMs with your m32c and still be able to control your mains (FOH mix) on your m32r. The only way to achieve this is to link the mixers directly. What I do is that I have my DL32 plugged into my x32 compact (which I use as monitor mixer) through AES50A and all my inputs go to there. Then I link this X32 Compact with my M32 via AES50B (since the "A" is being used with the DL32). I need to setup the routing correctly though. So, on the AES50B Output tab I make sure that I'm sending the correct channels. Then gotta do the routing on the M32 which is done on the Input tab. Of course, the M32 clock has to be set to whatever AES50 port you're using. I hope this makes sense.

  • @BjorgenEatinger
    @BjorgenEatinger 6 років тому +3

    Is there a way to do this WITHOUT the DL32? I noticed nobody answers any of the questions below, so I will probably not get a response, but it would be nice to know. Thank you.

    • @michaelfoss7064
      @michaelfoss7064 6 років тому +1

      you can buy a analog splitter snake and just send to each console

    • @11sixJ
      @11sixJ 6 років тому

      In my church we use splitter snake, so adjusting the eq on the Midas x32 doesn't affect Midas 32r console except for the gain

    • @OrlandoReyessonido
      @OrlandoReyessonido 3 роки тому +1

      You can use 2 consoles without the Stagebox

  • @phoenixkfy
    @phoenixkfy Рік тому

    I have a set of Behringer S32 Stage Box in my hand, suddenly there is no response from 1-8, and 9-32 are all normal, do you know the problem?

  • @naklanksoundrajkot2799
    @naklanksoundrajkot2799 2 роки тому

    M32 praise

  • @nobodysdarlingsband
    @nobodysdarlingsband 5 років тому +2

    The whole reason I like a separate monitor board is separate gain staging for monitors verses FOH. If they share the same pre amp and gain stage I do not see the point.

    • @anthonydoyle6253
      @anthonydoyle6253 5 років тому +1

      Shawn Pasley on the monitor board you get + or - 18dbs of trim do you can stage it properly

    • @nobodysdarlingsband
      @nobodysdarlingsband 5 років тому +2

      Interesting. My understanding is that FOH and Mon when sharing an S32 or S16 they still had a shared gain stage and did not work independently

    • @drahcir70
      @drahcir70 3 роки тому +1

      @@nobodysdarlingsband You should set the gain first to your foh and the stage console follows, you can still add more trims on stage as needed but that wouldnt affect the foh settings.

    • @zephaniahcarter6134
      @zephaniahcarter6134 2 роки тому +1

      You still have trim bro

  • @TyTy-s5d
    @TyTy-s5d 5 місяців тому

    In this setup, if FOH console "has control of the outputs on DL32", how does the Monitor console get it's signal to the monitors?...

  • @phutran2006
    @phutran2006 Рік тому

    Hi, I am connecting Monitor and FOH to two x32 console as per your video, the only different is I have 2xS16 rather than 1xs32. The main console I connect it to port A of the first S16, port B of the first S16 then connected to port A of the second S16, then port B of the second S16 is then connect to port A of my monitor console. All my console light lit up green, however I am not getting signal into my monitor console. My main console have signal. Can you see what is wrong with my connections. Thanks

  • @calaverapelomorao
    @calaverapelomorao 5 років тому

    Thanks erick

  • @abdisoewoto6118
    @abdisoewoto6118 5 років тому +1

    Is it possible to have the 3rd console? So there are 1 DL 32, and 3 units M32. Thanks a lot.

    • @MidasOfficial
      @MidasOfficial  5 років тому +1

      Yes, it is possible to connect 3rd console whether to MON, or FOH console by AES50 multichannel protocol. The thing to keep in mind - proper clocking of the whole system (there should be just one master clock unit).

  • @jflemus4970
    @jflemus4970 6 років тому +3

    what can i do to control all the channels if i connect a Midas 32r to the DL32 stagebox B into the A of the Midas 32r? Is it possible? Can i use a dante splitter to do so? or what options to i have? Any help is greatly appreciated.

  • @alexismasse4213
    @alexismasse4213 Рік тому

    Hi ! If i link a Dl16 with a DL32, Does this method still work or would I only receive inputs from the dl16 ?

  • @bendowd5354
    @bendowd5354 9 місяців тому

    Can’t the monitor console then also control FOH?

  • @BerkantSERT
    @BerkantSERT 3 роки тому

    can we doing same thing for the wing console...

  • @chadolson7466
    @chadolson7466 2 роки тому

    Can you do this without a digital snake

  • @BossHoggGuitars
    @BossHoggGuitars 9 місяців тому

    I have a question. If I have an IEM rack that contains a Midas M32C and a DL32, can I set it up to use the AES50 B to split to FOH instead of having an in rack splitter? I'm trying to build a fly rack and keep it as small as possible

    • @MidasOfficial
      @MidasOfficial  5 місяців тому

      Absolutely. You can receive the incoming signals from the DL32 and then simply send AES50A to AES50B which can be picked up by front of house. Monitors will have gain control to make sure you agree the gain level with FOH for a seemless gig.

  • @mithahtoo8563
    @mithahtoo8563 7 років тому +1

    how about splitting for another aes50 console for broadcasting

  • @SoundBarrierEntertainment
    @SoundBarrierEntertainment 6 років тому

    So there is no way for your monitor console side stage to run monitors out of the stage box .. I can only seem to have them comming out of the console itself. Now I have to run another damn snake onto the stage or to my amp rack for monitors. Is there a solution

  • @BigFerrisL
    @BigFerrisL 8 років тому +1

    Nice!!!!!!!

  • @jrscheile
    @jrscheile 7 років тому

    So in essence the consoles are mirrored correct? with the exception that the gains and outputs are controled by the console clock set to 'internal".. both consoles should be able to make changes to any of the busses, eq's etc.

  • @NightFeverVar
    @NightFeverVar 2 місяці тому

    Configuration
    Hello I bought an x32 rack I have in configuration an X32 Compact for the facade with a Box DL32 Midas internship, with WiFi Router,.My question I was told that we could have a different EQ between the facade and the returns I speak of EQ EQ and not of the eq master on returns.If you have configuration I am interested, the connection everything works with the sound, but nothing works in EQ on each edge on the returns.Routing connection I start from the AES50-A of the compact to the X32 rack in B and then a rack to the A DL32 Midas
    Small details the inputs and outputs are coughing connected to the DL32 Midas

  • @charleyrickard1781
    @charleyrickard1781 3 роки тому

    Would be helpful if you explained the cable and connector type as well

    • @djjazzyjeff1232
      @djjazzyjeff1232 2 роки тому

      Did you get it figured out? They're called Ethercon cables, I use ProCo, I have a 150ft to FoH and a 3ft to a rack mounted one in the rack with the DL32 and my X32Rack (For in ears)

  • @jeffpence5402
    @jeffpence5402 7 років тому

    Isn't the M32R just using the input channels of the DL32 and using the physical outputs for the monitors from the M32R?

  • @TheRedEyeChannel
    @TheRedEyeChannel 7 років тому

    this wouldn't allow redundancy in the case the FOH mixer would go down, correct? Is there any setup that would allow that short of hotswapping the AES50 ports? this is assuming that nothing is directly plugged into the FOH and output is going through the stage boxes

    • @BjorgenEatinger
      @BjorgenEatinger 5 років тому

      Use a DL251 or DL253 to add redundancy. Dual Ethernet cables.

  • @iwanbpratama1249
    @iwanbpratama1249 Рік тому

    I did more simple....I use M32 in stage as monitor mix and another M32 for FoH mix. All input are going to M32 in stage and all output for PA and monitor coming from it. I use 2 Main out to go to PA line array and 1 out more for PA subwoofer....7 out for monitor wegde and 6 out for IEM. In this case I use sharing mic pre....monitor mix will control all mic pre gain....and the FoH mix still has digital gain control....

    • @abbyjust
      @abbyjust Рік тому

      Berarti ini tanpa digital snake yah bang iwan?

    • @iwanbpratama1249
      @iwanbpratama1249 Рік тому

      tetap pakai kabel CAT5 utk koneksi dr M32 stage ke M32 FoH.
      @@abbyjust

  • @lestudiogarci
    @lestudiogarci 3 роки тому

    How do the routing with 2 DL153 instead of DL32 please ?

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 6 років тому +1

    Is there a way to send individual local channel direct outputs from the M32, to the outputs of the DL32 on stage?
    We use a Movek MyMix IEM system, which can take input via ADAT or analog.
    Since there are no individual channel outs, I thought to use the ADATs on a stage box to do it, but the routing would have to allow for it and I’m not sure it does.
    As an alternative, what I have to use 16 aux sends for this, and even so could I do that? Or is there just no way to get channel direct outs in this fashion?

    • @urbanstreet6502
      @urbanstreet6502 11 місяців тому

      Did you ever get your dl32 to work taking advantage of the adat outs?

  • @austinfarley4971
    @austinfarley4971 7 років тому +2

    Can you guys do something crazy with this? I'd love it if when I did this that whatever I name the inputs on my FOH Mixer that they'll automatically match what is on the Monitor mixer. If that's doable. Say so! If not. Make it happen! It would make things just that little bit easier.

  • @Kuuuks
    @Kuuuks 7 років тому

    How do you lockout/Restrict band members from have access to their individual in-ear monitor mix 'BUS' so they can only access their own mix and not mess with the other parts of the console/Mix on the X32/M32 Mix app?

    • @ToBi-xr2mg
      @ToBi-xr2mg 5 років тому +1

      Kuuuks I got the Behringer P-16M for that. Sends through the Ultranet.

  • @M2VisualSound
    @M2VisualSound 7 років тому

    Hello, I have already a Midas M32R and a DL32. I wish to buy a M32C. Kindly send me in details how to connect both consoles to the DL32 and use the M32R as FOH and M32C for stage monitors. I want to separate the controls, having for instance 8 outs dedicated to the stage controlled only via the M32C while the others 8 outs are being controlled separately by the M32R FOH with another sound engineer. Your kind help is appreciated.

  • @rafaeltrejo8113
    @rafaeltrejo8113 2 роки тому

    hello from mexico i already have 2 behringers wings and 3 stage boxes sd16 and i cant meke it work together as foh and monitor can you help guys with it? thanks

  • @electroman6913
    @electroman6913 4 роки тому

    Can you do this with local channels and not use the digital snake.

    • @MidasOfficial
      @MidasOfficial  4 роки тому

      You can use local I/O although the inputs are limited

  • @wahoo236
    @wahoo236 7 років тому

    We are seeking to do exactly this EXCEPT with a M32C in place of the M32R shown here. MY QUESTION: Can the bus outputs of the M32C be mapped to the physical XLR outputs on the back of the M32 console, while the bus outputs of the M32 console are mapped to the XLR outputs of the DL32? Is that level of swaparound possible, or will the M32C require its own independent DL32?

  • @marcuswalker7897
    @marcuswalker7897 4 роки тому

    Is this the same process for the X32?

  • @arloarlo5812
    @arloarlo5812 3 роки тому

    Say you set the M32 to be the master (internal) and connect it to the DL32 with a digital snake, will the DL32 automatically detect that the console is the master and then become a slave? Or.. must you manually set the DL32 up with rotary dials to become the slave? (provided that it wasn't already set to slave mode out of the road case from some previous show) With the S16, you must manually set the stage box to either master or slave regardless of what the console is set to.

    • @OrlandoReyessonido
      @OrlandoReyessonido 3 роки тому +2

      Dl32 doesn’t have rotary dial to change like the S16

  • @Vintageman87
    @Vintageman87 6 років тому

    Is there a chance to get a MatrixMix or a MainOut Signal from M32 to the M32R. I want take the FOH Main Signal for my Inears Monitors ?

    • @MidasOfficial
      @MidasOfficial  5 років тому

      Hi Mathias, please email solutions@musictribe.com with this question.We have specialists there who will be able to give you a comprehensive answer, we will need more information about the exact setup, so we can help you with the best and most efficient solution.

  • @michaeltjin679
    @michaeltjin679 7 років тому

    we have the same setup, m 32,mr32 & dl32 - where not getting any outputs of the dl32- ch1 through ch12 (monitors )... where ch14 ,15,16 does have output for main....1ch through ch12 is assign through mr32....we check the routing menu...but still no output ,only local from the mr 32 desk itself...any help with the routing would be appreciated...thanks in advanced

    • @MidasOfficial
      @MidasOfficial  7 років тому +1

      Hi Michael. How are you connecting the M32 & M32R to the DL32? If you're connecting each console directly into the stage box, whichever console that is connected to AES50 A port will have outputs. If you want some outputs on the DL32 to come from the M32 and others from the M32R you will need to configure the setup differently.
      Please email us at careente@music-group.com and we can get you sorted!

    • @mauriciovelez4120
      @mauriciovelez4120 7 років тому +5

      This video is incomplete, no info on the outputs, no info on gains... Sad.

  • @vishalmotilal5062
    @vishalmotilal5062 3 роки тому

    Can you say If the Behringer s32 is compatible with the Midas m32/r?

  • @בנציקלצקין
    @בנציקלצקין 3 роки тому

    How can I get it downloaded to my phone?

  • @benjaminamarosalazar
    @benjaminamarosalazar 8 років тому +3

    but how am I supposed to be able to use my M32R for monitoring if the outputs of the DL32 are being controlled by the M32?

    • @BrendanWestBogPerson
      @BrendanWestBogPerson 8 років тому

      Looks like they are assuming you run the monitor outputs from the analog outputs of the M32r.
      Alternatively, you could use another DL16/32 on the AES50 "B" port to get another 8 analog outputs if needed. Personally I would rather have the bigger surface in monitor-land for most shows...

    • @florianhammer1425
      @florianhammer1425 8 років тому +1

      what do I need 16 outputs on stage if you don't do monitor from foh? doesn't work for the m32c with no analog outputs - any solution for?

  • @stehfreejesseah7893
    @stehfreejesseah7893 2 роки тому

    Don't mention the gain?

  • @KGEntertainment365
    @KGEntertainment365 4 роки тому

    Can I bypass the stage box and connect the two consoles with a Cat5 cable, 1 for FOH CONSOLE and the other for Live Stream CONSOLE and will I be able to add effects compressors FROM the Live Stream CONSOLE going to the stream ?

    • @Audiomajik
      @Audiomajik 3 роки тому

      Are you sending prefade or postfade from the M32 FOH console?

    • @KGEntertainment365
      @KGEntertainment365 3 роки тому +1

      @@Audiomajik Post

    • @Audiomajik
      @Audiomajik 3 роки тому

      @@KGEntertainment365 thank you.

  • @andyemery85
    @andyemery85 7 років тому +1

    Can you provide details on how to hook up an M32(FOH), M32R(Mon) and 2xDL231. We want 32 channels to be used with independent gain controls on both consoles. Also would want all outputs coming from the stage racks. Is this possible?

    • @11sixJ
      @11sixJ 6 років тому +1

      Suggest getting a splitter snake

    • @jeremymccoy5036
      @jeremymccoy5036 5 років тому

      You would need 2 separate preamps for independent gain control. A split snake is what you will need.

  • @drum101keane
    @drum101keane 8 років тому

    Hi Midas, what is the gain control like when setting up the consoles in this manor? For example, do both consoles have full control of their gains? Or does the FOH console have full control, whilst the monitor desk has none?

    • @PhotonCommander
      @PhotonCommander 7 років тому

      Depends on which console you set as the master I believe. One console will control the gain and the other will be able to fine tune with trim (instead of gain).

    • @PhotonCommander
      @PhotonCommander 7 років тому

      Im fairly certain that's how it works, based off of my research.

    • @drum101keane
      @drum101keane 7 років тому

      Makes sense, Cheers James

  • @srenpetersen9733
    @srenpetersen9733 8 років тому

    Hi midas.
    I have 2 midas dl153, what will be the Best way to setup foh and monitor up with the 2 stagebox??
    Best Regards:
    Søren

    • @srenpetersen9733
      @srenpetersen9733 8 років тому

      With the m32

    • @BjorgenEatinger
      @BjorgenEatinger 5 років тому

      I believe the DL153 would only add redundancy to your setup. You will still have to run an analog snake at stage side to have a properly configured monitor mix situation.

    • @dsarmi88
      @dsarmi88 5 років тому

      @@BjorgenEatinger there is no redundancy on x or m 32 systems. DL153 will work as they operate on aes, same as x32 & m32. It will work only at 44 and 48 freq rate, not 96.

  • @MangueAboubacarSylla
    @MangueAboubacarSylla Місяць тому

    Comme utilisé hi sub bass sur matrice

  • @nelydk
    @nelydk 6 років тому +2

    lol what about outputs

  • @signossonorizaciones5894
    @signossonorizaciones5894 8 років тому

    vientos asipara sacarle mas probecho a la midas

  • @peterlockwood8284
    @peterlockwood8284 Рік тому

    How would this work if we use M32c w DL32 for our IEMs? Should I go FOH AES50 A to the DL32 A, Then FOH DL32 PORT B to our DL32 B..but in order to use our M32c to mis our ears, could I then go from our Dl32 A to M32c A??

  • @emtpaudiovisuals5883
    @emtpaudiovisuals5883 Рік тому +1

    Uhm....nope. only the gains are controlled. And thats why this type of videos sucks. I dont want the main in control of my mon gain. And i dont want my mon in control of my foh gain. So i still use the old school analogue split to seperate them for 10 years now......

    • @ReverbAndBeer
      @ReverbAndBeer Рік тому

      I've been mixing on my analog Midas Venice32 and Verona boards (and Meyer speakers) since 2003 or 04. I broke down and got an M32R this year because... well my excuse was that my outboard compressors and delay and reverbs were all at the end of their days, and it was time to join the digital world. What a mistake. What did they do to Midas??? Music Tribe doesn't even sell replacement fader knobs for any Midas analog board.
      I'm going to use my CBI splitter snake and let the youngsters do monitors on the M32R, while I mix FOH on my analog boards in the dark, using fingertip sensation and muscle memory
      Such a shame about Midas.

  • @hummhed
    @hummhed 2 роки тому

    Dude needs air quote lessons.