5hp compressor Ingersoll Rand Burning up Motors

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  • @ajcates9136
    @ajcates9136 4 місяці тому +1

    I know how you feel I’m in my late 50 s and I do collision repair and I have one of these crap compressors and I’m paying for a vacation and next purchase will be fix my ingersol Rand compressor or take everything off the top and start from scratch I love the way you work and blessed I found you

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  4 місяці тому

      This one was used to run Da sanders as well. Lots of good solutions and tips in the comments below. Im thinking that ive heard some good words about the Harbor freight pumps but havent tried them myself. Whichever you go with find a good motor and add a magnetic switch. Any motors similar to these are junk. The compressor in the video still working well but move to the mechanic's shop. Runs Impacts and lifts. Thanks for watching and the kind comments. Glad you found me to.

  • @RJMachine62
    @RJMachine62 6 місяців тому +2

    I put a 5hp Leeson on mine (SS5) then also added a magnetic motor starter on mine later on because the pressure switches are junk as you said. Never had any issues since.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  6 місяців тому

      Best solution ever. So much weight off the shoulders knowing you wont have to fix a broken compressor instead of just using it.

  • @CharlesHastedt
    @CharlesHastedt 9 місяців тому +4

    The wire gauge and breakers are exactly the reason for so much failure on these motors. The crank up amps are the kick start of this motor, smaller wire other than 8 gauge will brown out on startup. This motor needs all available amps to start it, running amps are one thing, have enough amps on start up is another. If you have any thing less than 8 gauge wire from the breaker box, your headed for motor failure.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  9 місяців тому

      Thank You. I agree 100%

    • @G5Hohn
      @G5Hohn 9 місяців тому

      Also, many of these compressor designs lack any kind of pressure relief on startup, so when you combine a cheap motor (and super high inrush current) with cheap wiring and cable, PLUS ask it to start against full cut-in pressure, it's a recipe for failure.

  • @neely29607
    @neely29607 6 місяців тому +1

    I have this same 5hp compressor with 60 gal. tank bought from Tractor Supply. After about one year service the contacts on the pressure switch welded together. Tractor Supply had an exact replacement in stock. The new pressure switch states inside that it is intended for 2 hp load. I installed a Square D magnetic starter rated at 7.5 hp. Now I am having issues with blowing capacitors. The main breaker rated at 25 Amp in my power panel trips often. Not sure whether the motor is of poor quality, the capacitors are not adequate or if the unloader feature is failing. Nothing short of a recall would make me want to purchase this type equipment again.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  6 місяців тому

      If its the start capacitor burning up. Once the motor starts the motor should switch it to the run capacitor within seconds. If it doesn't and uses that start capacitor to run it will burn it up. The start capacitor and start winding are de-energized, usually by a centrifugal switch inside the motor. Now that you have bypassed the switch from that capacitor the burning has moved to the capacitor. Im thinking either the windings are bad or the switch is stuck or broken. Back pressure valve could be bad but not to likely knowing the history of these motors. Thanks for your support and let me know if you need further help.

  • @maxpain7197
    @maxpain7197 7 місяців тому +2

    Dude i thought you were Colin Powell

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  7 місяців тому +1

      Ive was told that once before. The man and woman were so happy to meet me. I thought it was a prank, but you have put my mind to rest that it wasn't. Thanks for watching, commenting, subscribing, putting a smile on my face and supporting my channel.

  • @JHarris
    @JHarris 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video. I'm doing research trying to figure out if I should buy this air compressor or not. It currently on sale $200 cheaper from Tractor Supply and I cant spend any more money on something larger. Wondering if I should buy something else.
    For my research purposes, how have the mods been doing? Have you had any issues since installing the new motor and magnetic starter? Thanks again!

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому +1

      The compressor in this video has been reassigned to a different part of the shop where it is only used for powering a vehicle lift, impact wrenches and a tire changer (Light duty). It has been problem free since these repairs and upgrades were made. If you plan on using it to run air sanders and grinders it will run constant and hot.
      My opinion would be that if you're only going to use it as a light duty compressor like I described above you should be ok if you add a magnetic starter. If you're going to use it to run body shop type tools, you'll have to dig deeper in the wallet and go with one of the very few that are made here in the US.
      The problem is that these compressors are everywhere disguised under different colors and name brands and all at that price range. With all that said the one you found may be your best bet but for home use only. Shopping around may be a waste of time. Be sure to get all the info you can about getting it serviced if a problem should arise during warranty. Im not sure how TC does that anymore.
      I hope this helps and thanks for watching.

    • @JHarris
      @JHarris 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CaptFerd Fantastic info, I appreciate it. I'm glad to hear the mods worked well. Definitely going for home garage use. Impact wrench and sandblaster mostly. Maybe a sander or small paint booth one day or even vehicle lift. I liked the 15,000 hour lifetime on this two stage compressor but after digging into it iv found this issue with the electric motor. It definitely seems like getting the magnetic starter is a must. Not sure if straight installing the magnetic starter would void warranty at all, but that's an Ingersoll Rand question. At the very least I know I can go with the magnetic starter if the first one fails outside of warranty. I appreciate your response!

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому +1

      @@JHarris Hopefully they've addressed the issues, and you'll enjoy years of problem free service like the old Ingersoll brands once did. Thanks again for your support of my channel

  • @Cars-food
    @Cars-food 11 місяців тому +1

    We have two at the shop 80 gallon running all day long no problems at all so far

    • @G5Hohn
      @G5Hohn 9 місяців тому +1

      I doubt it's the same model.

  • @G5Hohn
    @G5Hohn 9 місяців тому +2

    The TS5 appears to be the pump model only. And while made in India might not seem like ultimate quality, it seems like its your motor and pressure switch giving you all the problems.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  8 місяців тому +1

      You are so right. This repair is still working and no issues since

  • @pipewrench83dewig81
    @pipewrench83dewig81 3 місяці тому +1

    I have the same compressor the motor reads FLA 24.9 would it be ok to set the amperage at 28 amps.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  3 місяці тому

      That would be an idea setting. You could dial it down but may find yourself resetting the breaker every now and then.

  • @waynotogo
    @waynotogo 5 місяців тому +1

    After almost a year, has this compressor had any more issues? Did the magnetic starter do the trick?
    Thank you sir,

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  5 місяців тому

      It set a record. longest time running without issues. 1 year. Thanks for your support.

  • @jamesconn4608
    @jamesconn4608 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the heads up ,I’m in the market for one .

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  6 місяців тому

      Hope it helps and thank you for your support.

  • @ginfizz20
    @ginfizz20 3 місяці тому

    You have just hit the tip of the ice-burg on air compressors. I have purchase several air compressors over the last 60 some years. The first one for my use I was advised to get a "5hp". That compressor served me very well so every air compressor I purchase after that said "5hp--MAKE" painted on the side. Most of the time they said "hp--5" on the motor. This time as I looked at the various compressors, they looked about the same size as my 5hp had been, but they had no obvious 'hp" rating on the tank nor did the motor say "hp-5"; it said "hp-- spl". Also, I have a problem accepting advice on air compressors from a clerk that moments before was an expert on "dog food" to another customer. So I picked one that looked about like my old 5hp compressors. As I "broke it in" I clocked it and it took 8 minutes to get to shut-off pressure. On the tank it did say if you have problems "DO NOT TAKE IT BACK TO WHERE YOU PURCHASED IT-- Call this 800 number". I called it and they answered the phone with, "Campbell Hausfield". I said I was calling DeWalt. The person explained that his company makes many compressors and put various company names on them. He explained that they don't rate air compressors by "horse power". They are rated by "Cubic Feed per Minute ---CFM's. I asked how many CFM's was my 5hp compressor rated at so I could decide which CFM air compressor would equal my 5hp. He couldn't say. As you, I saw the "Assembled in the USA", so I looked at each component and found that the "tank" MIGHT have been the only USA part on it. Stanley Black and Decker have purchase many old US brand names such as Craftsman, Proto, Mac and gone through and made product changes so they could make a bigger profit.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  3 місяці тому

      It couldn't have been said any better. While working at Sam's Club, I watched a man come in and switch all the stickers on the batteries we had in stock. They went from Exide to Duracell right before my eyes. What a deception with name brands. Thank you for sharing.

  • @uwbadger1996
    @uwbadger1996 Місяць тому +1

    I am dealing with the EXACT. SAME. ISSUE. Burned up two motors, then bought that Home Depot Vevor motor. Guess what? It burned up after three weeks. I have 8 gauge wire.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Місяць тому

      The compressor in this video has been reassigned to a different part of the shop where it is only used for powering a vehicle lift, impact wrenches and a tire changer (Light duty). Doesnt get used much at all over there. Im sure if they continued to run the sanders and grinders on it that it would have burnt again but it hasnt to this point. Dont know if I mentioned it, but I put a new check valve in it as well. Ive often wondered if the pump itself may be the problem, a bad configuration of pulleys or something like that. No one can figure it out. Feel bad for all the people going through this and there are a lot. They've been selling them for years and continue to sell them today with this same problem.

  • @ajcates9136
    @ajcates9136 Рік тому +1

    Get you a weg electric motor it’s more money but it is a commercial motor I’m a body and paint guy and we run the heck out of our snap on compressor we burned up 2 other motors that were some cheap azz motor we got from parts store. My ingersoll rand 3 hp 60 gall has had the motor replaced twice so motor quality motors are crucial for longevity! Thanks 🙏 for the content I subbed quickly 😂

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Рік тому

      Ill keep that recommendation in mind. When you mention weg, Im thinking that the compressor in that axillary tank video I recently did has that name brand motor. Its a year old high dollar compressor from Eaton Aire that burnt a motor. (US was its brand) The motor they sent that I installed I believed was one of those weg motors. Warrantied but its cost is $2700 and took 3 of us to lift it up there. What a beast. The auxiliary tank was a blessing for the painter there. I had my doubts and was wrong. That extra tank cured the painters water problem 100%
      ua-cam.com/video/cNbe8IjrdDQ/v-deo.html Thanks for watching

  • @inscoredbz
    @inscoredbz Рік тому +1

    So, is there a comparable compressor for just a little extra cast that don't need a bunch of extras added into it to keep it from burning out motors? $1500.00 compressor should be a good compressor, but I've seen to many reviews of these same things you said in this video. So what would compare to it for $200-300 extra dollars?

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Рік тому

      Eaton air in Dayton Ohio has nice air compressors. Tractor supply wants $1600 for this same one now. Heres a beast 7.5hp for $500 more with 5 year warranty and trust me they stand behind them and have excellent customer service.
      eatoncompressor.com/product/7-5-hp-air-compressor-single-phase-v4-80-gallon-vertical/ Weve bought 2 since this video. This one is still running fine. That magnetic starter makes a big difference.
      They have anouther line they sell Named the freight train. 1 year warranty on this one. We have 1 of those. Almost the same price as the TSC junkard.
      eatoncompressor.com/product/freight-train-5hp-2-stage-80-gallon-air-compressor/

  • @zoranostojich681
    @zoranostojich681 Рік тому +2

    Great info to know thanks for sharing

  • @nephtalilucero8084
    @nephtalilucero8084 2 місяці тому +1

    Can't get mine to work. The motor not receiving power. Followed instructions. Can I send you a picture to confirm connections

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому

      Sorry to hear that. Would be glad to help email your pic

    • @nephtalilucero8084
      @nephtalilucero8084 2 місяці тому +1

      Found out the problem. It was A2 I was needing to connect to and the wire from the switch to L1 instead of L3. I found a video showing it with this brand. It could of changed over the years.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому

      @@nephtalilucero8084 Glad that you figured it out. Thanks for watching

  • @gregorygillis7671
    @gregorygillis7671 Рік тому +1

    If you have problems with that motor again, I'd recommend getting a motor with an rpm of 1700-1800 instead of 3600 rpm and double the size of the drive pulley. Them "compressor duty" motors have too small of frame size for the output they got. You might have to modify the motor mount to work with it as the original motor would be a 56 frame and the low speed one would likely be 184 frame

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Рік тому

      That is a great option to consider.

    • @gregbowen9546
      @gregbowen9546 9 місяців тому

      If I went with a slower motor I would need to double the size of the original pulley? I thought It would need a smaller pulley to make it spin faster. Am I wrong about that? Would I need to go with a bigger pulley? Thanks for any info.

  • @meg8berg8
    @meg8berg8 3 місяці тому +1

    excellent! thank you.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  3 місяці тому

      You are welcome!

  • @Steeg-vd7rf
    @Steeg-vd7rf 5 місяців тому +1

    My boss bought the same. Unit at the farm store.. 2 yrs ago.as i see now they don't sell them anymore..i was told to many complaints and returners. Quality today ?? Not good. I bought a new sailor - Buell. American made. For my home shop..made in st. Johns Mich.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  5 місяців тому +1

      Good choice on that compressor. Saved yourself a lot of grief.

  • @amundsen575
    @amundsen575 11 місяців тому +1

    when a motor has SPL in its HP rating be aware it is not a 5hp motor it is about 2.75HP as the one you are showing . A true 5HP motor will draw 20-22 Amps at 230V and needs a magnetic starter or contactor, and those import pressure switches can barely handle 2HP without burning up the contacts .square-D pressure switches do last. Also the S.F. (Service Factor) of a quality motor may be 1.15 as compared to cheap imports with a SF of 1

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  10 місяців тому

      good info thanks

  • @vin9114
    @vin9114 Рік тому +3

    I have an Ingersoll Rand 5hp 60gal 2stage i bought 20yrs ago. Its an oldie but goodie...100% American made...i have had zero issues. The only thing I've ever done is change the oil a few times. Even the air filter is clean. It's a shame that everything you buy these days is a P.O.S.💩

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Рік тому

      Like you I had one back in the 80's. Used it for years and later sold it to a friend who still has it to this day. The one I use in my shop is an older Campbell Hausfeld I bought used made in Ross Ohio. Cant beat that older stuff.

    • @roberthayes5037
      @roberthayes5037 5 місяців тому

      Mine is over 10 years old and the only thing Iv done is change the oil. Hopefully it will last me until I kick the bucket 😂

  • @HoneyBerighthere-Saysarath
    @HoneyBerighthere-Saysarath 3 місяці тому +1

    If you that scared, you should carry a CCW to turn it on.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  3 місяці тому

      That will fix it

  • @jt-fs8wx
    @jt-fs8wx 7 місяців тому +1

    just installed starter wired like your video and compressor would not run

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  7 місяців тому

      anything I can do to Help?

    • @jt-fs8wx
      @jt-fs8wx 7 місяців тому +1

      @@CaptFerd could starter be bad wired compressor up it works without starter wired to it

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  7 місяців тому

      ​@@jt-fs8wxIf you're using the same starter box as the one in the video and everything is wired just as shown, it's very possible that the box is faulty. With the tank pressure absent and the switch set to on, A1 should be hot. The magnetic starter should click, and you should have power coming out the bottom end. If there's no click, check the yellow wire for bad connections and ensure the reset button hasn't been tripped. If everything seems okay and there's still no power at the bottom, then the starter is likely bad. I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing this issue, and I'll help as much as I can.

    • @jt-fs8wx
      @jt-fs8wx 7 місяців тому

      @@CaptFerd thanks ill check it

  • @stoneycarter5546
    @stoneycarter5546 Рік тому +1

    Its made in India and that number you read off was for the compressor itself, the ser number is on the plate on the tank not the compressor it will start with CBV just food for thought.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  Рік тому

      Went back and found it . Thanks

  • @BG-xh5rb
    @BG-xh5rb 11 місяців тому +1

    Good subject content. But filled with too much around and about off-point content.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for the input.

  • @tonygoins7446
    @tonygoins7446 2 місяці тому +1

    Mine is junk also I will never buy one again

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree 100%. Dam shame they just change the color and name and keep ripping people off with these things. Thank you for watching, commenting and support.

  • @henrymiecz8566
    @henrymiecz8566 2 місяці тому +1

    I can understand you replacing the motor once but if you have to put more than one motor on it then pick a better motor! There are electric motors entirely built in the US you can buy. Fool me twice shame on me. WHy are you putting trash motors on this compressor? WAIT! I know why because you don't want to PAY FOR IT! People complain about trash products but won't ever pony up for a quality product made here. The problem is people not the companies because the companies know YOU won't buy it if it's expensive. I buy only quality on products I care about. I never have this problem. If everyone purchased like me there would be no such thing as junk products. When I have a problem it's because I cheapened out. People don't care about quality at all. All they care about price. My electrician once told me he has customers that complain about an extra $50 on something they KNOW could kill them if it fails. That's how stupid people are. It's the same type of people that will go on strike to make $40/hour then complain that cars cost $60k. People are stupid.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  2 місяці тому

      You may have missed the part where a different motor was ordered, but the same motor I was trying to get away from was sent instead. This is not my personal compressor. The work was being done for a company that I do service for. You are so right that people get what they pay for and the damaged we suffer by not supporting our US products, but there are not many options out there for these compressors. Thank you for your patriotism, comment and for watching.

  • @brandonkrebbs
    @brandonkrebbs 6 місяців тому +1

    Buddy you talk slow af

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  6 місяців тому +1

      Sorry. Had a stroke a few years back that caused that. A good tip is that the fast talkers are usually feeding you BS. Thanks for watching and thanks for the input. I have tried fixing this with editing videos since then.

    • @brandonkrebbs
      @brandonkrebbs 6 місяців тому

      @CaptFerd Sorry bud I thought you were just from Oklahoma or something.

    • @CaptFerd
      @CaptFerd  6 місяців тому

      @@brandonkrebbs LOL Ohio ranks the same with that state for people that talk slow according to google. Very interest stats I didnt know about. I think there tornados come here from there also.