Haw long it wos worck in real time, i lake your work , you give so match details you are very god educate, i am sure your perents had huge influence, good to give to you more inspiration to sare with us, thanks i see you
A really great video demonstrating your incredible skill and craftsmanship in producing this moulded capital.The combination of modern and traditional tools used throughput the construction was great to see. As a current 2nd yr stonemasonry student at Bath College, I have just completed a similar project - ( a circular column base with returns) , all fabricated with hand tools so I fully appreciate the skills, attention to detail and geometrical setting out demonstrated in your video.Keep producing such useful and informative posts - they’re inspirational particularly for those of us learning the initial stages of this incredible and satisfying craft. Thanks again!!!
Thanks so much for the comment Jeff. That was my intension for creating these videos if im honest. I feel that there is a lack of information out there for people learning the craft and that is resulting in standards dropping across the board. Im so glad that people such as yourself are getting involved with the trade as it needs people with great enthusiasm to keep the good work going. 👍
Tom, I'll be very much obliged if you answer one question for me. I studied the history of English architecture. This is what attracted me from a very young age. What intrigues me the most is the skill set of the artisans of that time. Especially masons and wood carvers. Few stonemasons could not do what woodcarvers can. What I couldn't find was linenfold decoration carved from stone. Could you enlighten me why this is so? Why are there many places decorated with linenfold wood panneling, but not a single stone carved in the same way? Or maybe there is, but I don't know about it?
Honestly, I don't know. the linenfold carving is pretty much just on wood panelling on internal work and stone panelling on interior work isn't really a thing. Don't get me wrong, interior stone work is obviously a thing and Sunken panels are defiantly a stone feature used externally quite a lot, but I have no idea why they have never had linenfold carvings. Your right though, I don't think I have ever seen it in stone. sorry I can't be more helpful.
Love this question. Just sharing what I know as a carpenter... Interior wood panelling originated from the Netherlands and Germany in pre-1500s. Usually a triparte system: wall panel at bottom dado rail in middle and coving at the top. In English carpentry we call wood wall panelling "Wainscote", originating from the Dutch word "wagenschot". Much of our wood craft terminology is European in origin. The name suggests that either these panelling products were made in NL/DE and imported over the channel, or the words/techniques were introduced to England by European craftsmen. Personally I think it would be a bit of both. England has always imported skilled workers. In Britain we ended up with the term "Wainscote oak" which Is high quality oak which is straight and regular enough to be riven (split along the grain with wedges, not sawn). All of the furniture in the houses of parliament are made of riven oak, not sawn, by law. It was considered the very highest quality, and most durable because it uses the natural strength of the woods growth direction. When riving wood, the grain dictates the direction of the split, therefore making it flat with a hand plane is extra work. Linenfold is a simple method of adding a decorative motif, you only need a couple of rounding planes and then add some gouge work at the top and bottom. You have to remove less material than trying to make it flat. It also looks great. Linenfold was super popular before the renaissance, which is the period when European artists leaent how to replicate human and natural forms more accurately, through formal education, and the styles changed. Linenfold is an impressive motif which gives the illusion of folded fabric, so it's cheap but also eye catching = fashionable. Why does linenfold not appear on stone work? I don't know, I guess it's because the motif is replicating interior drapes. You will see in many Dutch paintings that there are drapes and curtains dividing the rooms - wood panelling also served the same purpose, as a partition and wall covering. Therefore the linenfold motif forms a visual link between the two types of room partition. Interestingly, in late Dutch paintings it became fashionable to paint a realistic looking curtain around the sides of the scene. This is very much intended to make the painting look like "part of the room" from which you were viewing it from. Similar to Trompe L'Oeil paintings. Thus it might be borrowing the same illusion-like quality of linenfold panels, because it was super trendy and sold really well. I mean, we now see it everywhere in historic buildings and even in Victorian ones. Another theory is it looks like a scroll of paper, in Christianity the scripture is everything - the word of god. So it's a powerful motif that has probably been rehashed for this context. It is popular on the benches that choristers sit on in churches, near the altar. Ive certainly seen it in that location quite often, and mostly in Victorian churches. The Victorians had no style - they appropriated a huge amount of art and design from Europe, antiquity and older British architectural styles. This is just some speculation.
Apologies for the lack of reply. I somehow missed this. I am using 60 grit carborundum which it east enough shape to whatever profile required. I hope that's helpful
it very much depends own what type of stone im cutting and also what application I need it for. Generally, if I am cutting limestone, I will use a vacuum braised 5" vanity blade for most applications. Sandstone, I tend to use a standard soft compound 5" turbo blade. I generally use a segmented flush cut blade for my 9" for almost all stone types and applications.
Thanks. My grinder of choice is makita. I go for a variable speed for my 5" and the larger 2500w 9". As far as blades are concerned, I change them up dependant on what material im working with. I generally use a segmented flush cut blade for my 9" and then change up my 5" blade on the task at hand.
Ever thought of building a vertical lathe and then cutting two of those in half? You did a splendid job on those Tom but I always hated carving rounded mouldings as they're a lot of work and need a lot of attention to get them right. You can easilytell you're very skilled with those angle grinders though☻
Thankyou. yeah I've looked into lathes but they are very expensive and I don't really have the space or additional electric supply to my workshop so its not really viable for me. These wouldn't be able to be turned and cut in two anyway as they have a 4mm joint between the two stones which wouldn't be possible to achieve with a normal stone saw as they usually have a 10mm to 14mm cut thickness.Great idea though. 👍
@@mainstonecarving ok so make two of them and cut off both of them nearly in half, so that you end up with two halves that are within spec and two halves that are waste product. Of course that’s if you had the lathe in the first place. But why not fabricate a turntable, and it doesn’t need power, and then fasten that turntable to a base. Connected to the side of the base would be some kind of articulating arm that can be tightened at angle angle/height/orientation (you could make some of it out of cross-slide-vice in order to dial in the accuracy). At the end of that arm is where you fasten your grinder tool. So you fasten your piece to the turntable, you use the cross slide to move the grinder slowly towards the stone, making sure the wheel will hit exactly where you want it. Then cut to the depth you need it to be, then lock the arm tight. Now go to the other side of turntable and just rotate the stone slowly on the turn table. It’s a lathe, but super cheap.
Great work. It’s even more amazing that the mediaeval stonemasons who helped to build the fantastic cathedrals had no power tools. 4:13
Haw long it wos worck in real time, i lake your work , you give so match details you are very god educate, i am sure your perents had huge influence, good to give to you more inspiration to sare with us, thanks i see you
Nice work
What do you think of the ancient stonemason work?
Pretty impressive.
Thanks Eric
Love the videos 👍
Thank you. Its always nice to get good feedback.
I have a lot of experience in this craft on gypsum.
A really great video demonstrating your incredible skill and craftsmanship in producing this moulded capital.The combination of modern and traditional tools used throughput the construction was great to see. As a current 2nd yr stonemasonry student at Bath College, I have just completed a similar project - ( a circular column base with returns) , all fabricated with hand tools so I fully appreciate the skills, attention to detail and geometrical setting out demonstrated in your video.Keep producing such useful and informative posts - they’re inspirational particularly for those of us learning the initial stages of this incredible and satisfying craft. Thanks again!!!
Thanks so much for the comment Jeff. That was my intension for creating these videos if im honest. I feel that there is a lack of information out there for people learning the craft and that is resulting in standards dropping across the board. Im so glad that people such as yourself are getting involved with the trade as it needs people with great enthusiasm to keep the good work going. 👍
Talent.
Tom, I'll be very much obliged if you answer one question for me. I studied the history of English architecture. This is what attracted me from a very young age. What intrigues me the most is the skill set of the artisans of that time. Especially masons and wood carvers. Few stonemasons could not do what woodcarvers can. What I couldn't find was linenfold decoration carved from stone. Could you enlighten me why this is so? Why are there many places decorated with linenfold wood panneling, but not a single stone carved in the same way? Or maybe there is, but I don't know about it?
Honestly, I don't know. the linenfold carving is pretty much just on wood panelling on internal work and stone panelling on interior work isn't really a thing. Don't get me wrong, interior stone work is obviously a thing and Sunken panels are defiantly a stone feature used externally quite a lot, but I have no idea why they have never had linenfold carvings. Your right though, I don't think I have ever seen it in stone. sorry I can't be more helpful.
Love this question. Just sharing what I know as a carpenter...
Interior wood panelling originated from the Netherlands and Germany in pre-1500s. Usually a triparte system: wall panel at bottom dado rail in middle and coving at the top.
In English carpentry we call wood wall panelling "Wainscote", originating from the Dutch word "wagenschot". Much of our wood craft terminology is European in origin. The name suggests that either these panelling products were made in NL/DE and imported over the channel, or the words/techniques were introduced to England by European craftsmen. Personally I think it would be a bit of both. England has always imported skilled workers.
In Britain we ended up with the term "Wainscote oak" which Is high quality oak which is straight and regular enough to be riven (split along the grain with wedges, not sawn). All of the furniture in the houses of parliament are made of riven oak, not sawn, by law. It was considered the very highest quality, and most durable because it uses the natural strength of the woods growth direction.
When riving wood, the grain dictates the direction of the split, therefore making it flat with a hand plane is extra work.
Linenfold is a simple method of adding a decorative motif, you only need a couple of rounding planes and then add some gouge work at the top and bottom. You have to remove less material than trying to make it flat. It also looks great.
Linenfold was super popular before the renaissance, which is the period when European artists leaent how to replicate human and natural forms more accurately, through formal education, and the styles changed.
Linenfold is an impressive motif which gives the illusion of folded fabric, so it's cheap but also eye catching = fashionable.
Why does linenfold not appear on stone work?
I don't know, I guess it's because the motif is replicating interior drapes. You will see in many Dutch paintings that there are drapes and curtains dividing the rooms - wood panelling also served the same purpose, as a partition and wall covering. Therefore the linenfold motif forms a visual link between the two types of room partition.
Interestingly, in late Dutch paintings it became fashionable to paint a realistic looking curtain around the sides of the scene. This is very much intended to make the painting look like "part of the room" from which you were viewing it from. Similar to Trompe L'Oeil paintings. Thus it might be borrowing the same illusion-like quality of linenfold panels, because it was super trendy and sold really well. I mean, we now see it everywhere in historic buildings and even in Victorian ones.
Another theory is it looks like a scroll of paper, in Christianity the scripture is everything - the word of god. So it's a powerful motif that has probably been rehashed for this context. It is popular on the benches that choristers sit on in churches, near the altar. Ive certainly seen it in that location quite often, and mostly in Victorian churches. The Victorians had no style - they appropriated a huge amount of art and design from Europe, antiquity and older British architectural styles.
This is just some speculation.
Bravo
How do you not get dirty while drycutting limestone? I swear if I only do one cut my clothes are as white as snow.
haha. I do get very dirty but I think having good dust extraction and using my grinder so the dust fires away from me helps a lot.
@@mainstonecarving thanks
@@mainstonecarving what kind of dust extraction do you use?
@@GrimmGF I have a Sigma 2metre water wall. Water walls aren't cheap but I find them to be the most effective extraction method I know of.
@@mainstonecarving hello Tom, i was curious about the water walls, do they run on single or 3 phase do you know? cheers
AWESOME VIDEOS!! So happy to see our craft moving forward. Question: what are you using to wet sand? Great finish.
Apologies for the lack of reply. I somehow missed this. I am using 60 grit carborundum which it east enough shape to whatever profile required. I hope that's helpful
What blades do you use?
it very much depends own what type of stone im cutting and also what application I need it for. Generally, if I am cutting limestone, I will use a vacuum braised 5" vanity blade for most applications. Sandstone, I tend to use a standard soft compound 5" turbo blade. I generally use a segmented flush cut blade for my 9" for almost all stone types and applications.
Sick, what grinder and blade is your choice?
Thanks. My grinder of choice is makita. I go for a variable speed for my 5" and the larger 2500w 9". As far as blades are concerned, I change them up dependant on what material im working with. I generally use a segmented flush cut blade for my 9" and then change up my 5" blade on the task at hand.
@@mainstonecarving nice one !
Ever thought of building a vertical lathe and then cutting two of those in half? You did a splendid job on those Tom but I always hated carving rounded mouldings as they're a lot of work and need a lot of attention to get them right. You can easilytell you're very skilled with those angle grinders though☻
Thankyou. yeah I've looked into lathes but they are very expensive and I don't really have the space or additional electric supply to my workshop so its not really viable for me. These wouldn't be able to be turned and cut in two anyway as they have a 4mm joint between the two stones which wouldn't be possible to achieve with a normal stone saw as they usually have a 10mm to 14mm cut thickness.Great idea though. 👍
@@mainstonecarving ok so make two of them and cut off both of them nearly in half, so that you end up with two halves that are within spec and two halves that are waste product. Of course that’s if you had the lathe in the first place. But why not fabricate a turntable, and it doesn’t need power, and then fasten that turntable to a base. Connected to the side of the base would be some kind of articulating arm that can be tightened at angle angle/height/orientation (you could make some of it out of cross-slide-vice in order to dial in the accuracy). At the end of that arm is where you fasten your grinder tool. So you fasten your piece to the turntable, you use the cross slide to move the grinder slowly towards the stone, making sure the wheel will hit exactly where you want it. Then cut to the depth you need it to be, then lock the arm tight. Now go to the other side of turntable and just rotate the stone slowly on the turn table. It’s a lathe, but super cheap.
I'm a skateboarding Stonemason too. We should start a gang.
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