J.S. Bach on the Pedal Clavichord - Harald Vogel
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Johann Sebastian Bach (21 March 1685 - 28 July 1750)
Harald Vogel (1941~)
Biography here: www.bach-cantat...
From "Rund um Bach, 'The Bach Circle', Volume 1" Published by Organeum in 1997
"Little" Preludes and Fugues, Orgelbuchlein
BWV 553 Prelude and Fugue in C major
5:23 BWV 554 Prelude and Fugue in D minor
9:28 BWV 555 Prelude and Fugue in E minor
13:21 BWV 556 Prelude and Fugue in F major
16:51 BWV 557 Prelude and Fugue in G major
20:42 BWV 558 Prelude and Fugue in G minor
25:20 BWV 559 Prelude and Fugue in A minor
28:28 BWV 560 Prelude and Fugue in B-flat major
32:59 BWV 599 Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland ,
34:12 BWV 604, Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ
35:46 BWV 535 Praeludium in g-moll
39:11 BWV 614 Das alte Jahr vergangen ist
41:43 BWV 626 Jesus Christus, unser Heiland
42:54 BWV 629 Erschienen ist der herrliche Tag
44:21 BWV 533 Praeludium und Fuge e-moll "Cathedral, Nightwatchman"
49:40 BWV 641 Wenn wir in höchsten Nöten sein
51:29 BWV 642 Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten
53:58 BWV 572 Fantasie G-Dur "Pièce d'Orgue" (Très vitement, Gravement, Lentement )
Played on a copy of a 2-manual & pedal Clavichord by Johann David Gerstenberg c. 1766, from the collection of the Music Museum in Leipzig
Painting: "A View of the Maas at Dordrecht" c. 1645
Aelbert Cuyp (Dutch, 1620 - 1691)
From the Collection of the Getty Center, Los Angeles
To learn more about this painting: www.getty.edu/a...
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Quel bonheur ! De se lever le matin et d'écouter ça 🌻
He was among my organ teachers at Westminster Choir College.
as if the clavichord was not exotic enough! the pedal is cool as well, thx for this upload
Cool
Thank you for uploading this wonderful CD. I am disheartened that it is unavailable for purchase at this time as I would like it for my collection. As for the spurious attribution of the Eight to Bach, well to my ear this recording tells me they are most definitely by Bach. That’s no proof, I will admit, and there are eight not six, but anyway that’s what I think.
Update: I am happy to say that I found a copy on E-Bay.
Thank you for uploading. Harald Vogel is fantastic. Bach´s organ music becomes different on harpsichord.
This is not a harpsichord (Cembalo), but rather a pedal clavichord. The mechanism of sound production is very different, as is the history and historic use of the instrument. But regardless, Bach's music definitely becomes different when played on this (which is what Bach would have heard practicing at home) compared to the organ.
Bach’s music makes so much more sense on the clavichord.
This is not a harpsichord, but a clavichord. The harpsichord is an ugly sounding soulless instrument incapable of any expression, the clavichord is the most expressive keyboard instrument and Bach´s preferred instrument. All the voices in a contrapuntal structure sound clear and distinct on the clavichord, whereas on the cembalo they sound a cacophonous mess of confused sounds. Vogel is fantastic.
The clavichord has a completely different action than an organ so it doesn´t help to practice on a clavichord for better organ playing. The clavichord is an instrument on its own right, it was the most important household instrument in Germany (clavier), Spain (clavicordio) and Scandinavia.
Yes, I recently discovered Wim Winters and both his playing and his instrument are extraordinary, comparable only to Keith Jarrett playing the clavichord (but not Bach which is a pity). Now I can add Vogel. On UA-cam also can be found Gulda playing 4 of Bach´s preludes&fugues. Also Thurston Dart. Apart from these, I haven´t found sofar any other good clavichord players with a good instrument. Kirkpatrick and Troeger are not satisfactory, with uninteresting playing and bad clavichords.
Regarding Vogel, I can hear him playing some choral preludes and other pieces which are undoubtedly Bach´s and composed for the organ, although they sound wonderful on the clavichord and on the piano as well.
Anyway UA-cam is not the best medium for fully appreciating the music or the instrument, with its bad, low fidelity sound. Let´s hope Winters records all his repertoire on CD some day.
@@1805mdq u have some personal issue, dont project your dislike to other people who enjoy what they prefer.
very interesting; good idea to include BWV 533; a kind of "9th" to the "eight".
I completely agree - although maybe a little more interesting than most from the "little eight."
Magnificent and COOL
Sounds lovely to me on this 'authentic' pedal clavichord!
I guess the painter is Albert Cuyp (we have an Albert Cuypstreet and -market here in Amsterdam but it might be the 'old spelling' ;-)
Yep, Albert Cuyp! I'm always very impressed by this painting when I visit the Getty center.
And I agree, we need more Pedal Clavichord recordings! Something like the trio sonatas would be wonderful - and devilishly hard!
Here in Amsterdam, I visited a pedal clavichord recital (which is very rare in the whole world!) last November when Menno van Delft played a very attractive program on an instrument built by Wolff (the builder was also present during the concert)
Program:
Johann Christian Kittel (1732-1809)- Fantasia, D-groot Christian Michael Wolff (1709 - 1789) - Was Gott thut das ist wohlgethan, G-groot Johann Gottfried Müthel (1728 - 1788)- Herzlich thut mich verlangen, g-phrygisch Johann Christian Kittel - Preludio pro Organo pleno, a-kleinChristian Michael Wolff - Meine Seel’ erhebt den Herren, d-klein Johann Sebastian Bach (1685 - 1750)- Valet will ich dir geben, D-groot, BWV 736 Johann Nikolaus Hanff (1665 - 1711)- Ach Gott, vom Himmel sieh darein, b-phrygischJohann Kuhnau (1660 - 1722)- Uit Neuer Clavier-Übung, Erster Teil (Leipzig, 1689)
Suite 2, D-groot Praeludium
Allemande
Courante
Sarabande
Gigue - Johann Sebastian Bach Vijf koralen uit het Orgelbüchlein (gecomponeerd vanaf 1708) Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, a-klein, BWV 599 Der Tag, der ist so freundenreich, G-groot, BWV 605 Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger, Geist; G-groot, BWV 631 Wenn wir in höchsten Nöten sein, G-groot, BWV 641 Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten, a-klein, BWV 642 Dietrich Buxtehude (1637-1707): - Fuga in C, BuxWV 174 - Passacaglia, d-klein; BuxWV 161
More at www.orgelpark.nl/nl/Agenda/Pedaalclavichord@13:13
@@HarpsichordVinylGallery Thank you so much for listing that highly interesting programme given by Menno van Delftt. Might the instrument he played on that occasion at the Orgelpark not have been by Dick Verwolf?
@@monsieurgrigny yes sorry. I probably had the composer Wolff still in my head writing down w the name of the builder.
@@HarpsichordVinylGallery Of course, there is an important builder of pedal clavichords in Mass, US called Charles Wolff, as you may well know.
What is the meaning of the epigraph "Nightwatchman" for the small Praeludium und Fuge e-moll (BWV 533)?
Sorry for the late reply! I've heard some organists call it the "Nightwatchman" fugue at least here in the US, just because of the horn-like theme.
Dang, skipped from 560 to 599. I had hoped to hear 565 on a clavichord, oh well. Wonderful in any event.
I'm honestly glad they didn't. Whenever I bring up Bach organ work, people always think of that cheesy piece (which probably wasn't even written by him and possibly wasn't written for organ in the first place).
Well, I personally wouldn't mind 565 on the clavichord ;)
E.Power Biggs has a recording of it on the pedal harpsichord - admittedly not a clavichord but still worth a listen.
ua-cam.com/video/Lq7Gp70hYH4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=HarpsichordVinylGallery
I personally prefer that they didn't put 565, I'm not a huge fan of that particular toccata.
Who is this instrument made by?
I have no idea, to be honest. The liner notes only say the instrument it was copied from (Leipzig 1766 Gerstenberg)
Joel Speerstra is probably best known for his pedal clavichord copies after Gerstenberg, so I assume that it is rather his instrument.
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so lurchy
Absolutely horrible tone and timbre. I hope this is not an accurate representation of what Bach played on...I can't picture him putting up with such a horrible sound...no way.
Actually, by far, more accurate than any modern piano rendition! The clavichord was existent during Bach's time and was used by many organists as a training/rehearsal instrument for several reasons. First of all, they didn't need a boy to pump the bellows which costed money after all and they could rehearse/ train in a warm parlour as the churches in winter time were just heated for the Sunday services.
According to Harald Vogel the "Acht kleine Praeludien und Fugen" are no organ work - they tend to sound "unbachian" and from the organists perspective they might be spurious - but are idiomatically Bach on a clavichord. About one he is right, they sound more like a "proper" Bach on the Clavichord.
Regarding the instrument, Prof Vogel used a copy of the 1766 Gerstenberg which can be found at Leipzig - it is a great example of how a clavichord, with all it's mannerisms, should sound! It just might sound weird to people who are just acquainted with bad recordings as Richter or Gould which are unnecessary in comparison!
When Bach died, he possessed 3 harpsichords and no clavichord.
"...horrible tone and timbre..." I couldn't disagree more. Quite the contrary.
You probably don’t ever heard a clavichord or seen anything like it.That does not matter. I got nightmares of Bach played on such a box they call piano.
@@martinh1277 Nice jump to conclusions. Bach definitely made use of several different clavichords.