Really good advice. I’ve been putting off continuing to Chinese for years as I imagined and planned an ideal process that would probably eat up all my free time, and so it would be infinitely pushed off into the future. Last week I picked up a comic I bought for my older daughter, 西遊妖猿專, and just started trying to read it to see how much I could follow (turns out just better than half). I got hooked on the plot regardless, so even though it’s rather difficult, I’ve set a pattern of reading it for an hour or better everyday. It’s the most Chinese I’ve read, maybe ever. And when I finish it, I’m lining up more comics for later.
44yrs and reflecting, not achieved anything in last 15yrs. It's not really the language to focus on. I say to myself it's better habit I'm learning for me and my daily life. With out pressure,I could do more with better mindset . Often, past routine forms and this often leads to nothing.
It was interesting to watch Lingo Steve and Luca's recent video discussion about the impossibility of learning a language via ALG method. They have never actually tried to acquire a language via this method which also stems from Krashen's theory. Pablo and Matt vs Japan might have some things to say about that! I also think that they only promote their businesses these days which means their own methods.
I looked at their prices and decided to ignore their courses, but watch the free UA-cam videos and I took notes of the methods. They learnt from their methods: they didn't learn from their own courses. I'm preferring to use some classes, then carry on with graded reading and YT video/podcasts. Online friends and tutors in the language are very affordable too.
I've just checked out the video on Luca's channel. I think they aren't saying it's impossible but more why would you do it when there are other faster methods. I like watching videos, listening to podcasts and reading so I'll do that, if people prefer other methods that's absolutely fine too. I personally notice a difference between words I have acquired over words I have looked up. That said I have looked up words I have repeatedly heard and still wasn't sure from multiple context so I don't think it is a binary choice between one and the other. Providing you're getting input who cares what other people think about the methods, right?
Maybe its a different discussion I saw but I didn't think they were dismissing ALG (perhaps I misunderstood, I just had a quick look). I think they were criticising the hard cover version of ALG, i.e. not outputting until very late in learning. I think their point was more that some ALG courses put ideology above common sense. I'm neutral on this as I've not seen any convincing comparative studies, but in my experience ALG learners of English do learn 'smoother' more fluent English, but its reasonable to think that it might take a lot longer if you are going for 'extensive' rather than 'intensive' learning. Its like the difference between walking/cycling for a few hours or doing a high intensity 20 minute gym workout. They both work at getting you fit, its really a matter of objective and opportunity as to which is better.
The biggest benefit to ALG is that there is no need to have knowledge of another language to use the material. I use this channel called Nihongo No Mori and they teach Japanese in Japanese, but they started it to be able to help people that people they were working with in Vietnam, so someone who is Indonesian or Vietnamese or someone from Latin America who doesn’t speak English is getting the same amount of benefit from the content that I am. And I think that is the purpose probably of some of the classes they mentioned with international students from different backgrounds that don’t speak the language and you have to teach all of them.
I stopped listening to Luca's advice when he argued with me that he had an American accent. I'm American, he isn't. There is nothing wrong with accents, but if you can't recognize that you don't know everything, then what else do you not know?
I love how you put your headphone recommendation in the description box. I'll seriously consider it as I look for new headphones for language learning :-)
Well timed - by a coincidence two people I follow on twitter today were talking about 'ramping up the pain' and 'needing to struggle' to improve their skills as if they were David Goggins. I didn't bother responding as... well, whatever. I think Stephen Kaufman had an important point about immersion that you always learn from immersion in language above your current level, but you don't always feel the improvement in the short to medium term. In other words, you have to trust the process. Its all about habit, not motivation, but you can only build that habit through an honest assessment of your own lifestyle and capabilities.
Hi Philip! If it's painful it isn't sustainable. Also, if you can do it in a more pain free way why would you choose something less enjoyable? Each to their own ultimately. I totally agree - I think changing my habits is the biggest thing that has changed my approach to learning a language. My habits now include comprehensible input and so over the long term it is inevitable I will acquire the language. With regard to harder content what I would say is that the benefit of easier content is I hear words and phrases I already understand but in a new context giving me a more innate sense of them rather than simply a translation, but yes, you have to move on at some stage
@@matt_brooks-green Yup. Of course, I shouldn't be handing out advice as I've nowhere near mastered the languages I'm working on, but I think the objective evidence is pretty clear. Its just frustrating to see so much bad advice and myths being thrown around - often by people who really should know better. I think the hostility expressed to Krashens idea has as much to do with a sort of macho belief that everything good comes from hard work as much as reasoned disagreement. Overwhelmingly, the majority of people I know who have learned English really well have done it by engaging with material they enjoyed, not through crunching through hundreds of hours of Anki or grinding through textbooks.
Hi Matt. Hope you are well. Thanks for the video. Sound sensible advice. Like any pastime or hobby, just enjoy it. If when going to Turkey I remember more things than before and my conversations last a sentence or two longer then that’s progress. But Turks just live you trying as so few English speakers bother so you get loads of satisfaction in return. At least I think that is why they laugh😂.
Hahaha. Mainland Chinese sometime do the same. Something like pluralising hello to a group of people and they start saying how incredible my Chinese is 😂
Like someone else in the comments, this isn't what I was expecting. I thought it was going to be either a) literal, like, watching ads in a language (because they use the same vocab over and over) or b) another joke video, like "They said you could be fluent in 3 days - so use that as motivation!" This is another great video. Genuine question: how long does it take you to make a video (let's say, this one) start to finish? (I know it will be an estimate... but if you work out writing, filming, editing... it should be pretty close.)
Hey chap, thank you. Still genuinely shocked people on the internet are being so nice. It depends. I typed out the longest response here but to keep it simple I will drop you an email. For anyone interested at least 12 hours at a guess...
Hi Matt ! I love your videos, but just wanted to point out that 我可以说有点汉语 (if I understood correctly) might not be the most natural way to say what you're trying to say. I think that 我会说一点汉语 would sound better as 有点 is more often used to say things like 我有点累 and 我有点忙 (adjectival verbs, I believe they are called). Alternatively, you could say something like 我汉语说得不错. If there's a native Chinese speaker in the comment section, I would love to know if you agree! Cheers 🙌
Hey Romain, thanks for the comment. You’re right. I thought I would spice up the intro without thinking about it. Really need to get back on the Chinese at some stage and try and remember everything I’ve forgotten 😅
I'm not a native speaker but ur definitely right, besides there's one little thing I wanted to add 漢語 sounds really official like u can hear it in 漢語課，漢語橋 or 漢語水平考試 for instance, people in general prefer using 中文 (obv it depends on where u live I've heard other terms like 華文/華語 more popular amongst 華裔 (in Sg n Malaysia for example) 國語 in Taiwan I've heard Also some people in Mainland could also say 普通話 or a term I dun really like 中國話) So 我會說一點中文
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Visualizing who you want to be is huge! Love how you approached this from a marketing analogy. Took me a bit by surprise! ;)
Thanks Max 😊
I’d definitely like to see a breakdown of your regular day to include which graded readers and podcasts you’re using! Please!
Hi Jeffrey! Okay, okay. I'll do it 😅. My life isn't that interesting so please manage your expectations 😂
Really good advice. I’ve been putting off continuing to Chinese for years as I imagined and planned an ideal process that would probably eat up all my free time, and so it would be infinitely pushed off into the future.
Last week I picked up a comic I bought for my older daughter, 西遊妖猿專, and just started trying to read it to see how much I could follow (turns out just better than half). I got hooked on the plot regardless, so even though it’s rather difficult, I’ve set a pattern of reading it for an hour or better everyday. It’s the most Chinese I’ve read, maybe ever. And when I finish it, I’m lining up more comics for later.
Hey Anthony 👋. Yeah, just get started and get some sort of habit going. Sounds great. I can't wait to get back to Chinese!
44yrs and reflecting, not achieved anything in last 15yrs. It's not really the language to focus on. I say to myself it's better habit I'm learning for me and my daily life. With out pressure,I could do more with better mindset . Often, past routine forms and this often leads to nothing.
Thank you,Matt.🌟🔥🌹🔥🌟
Thank you! 🙏
It was interesting to watch Lingo Steve and Luca's recent video discussion about the impossibility of learning a language via ALG method.
They have never actually tried to acquire a language via this method which also stems from Krashen's theory.
Pablo and Matt vs Japan might have some things to say about that!
I also think that they only promote their businesses these days which means their own methods.
I looked at their prices and decided to ignore their courses, but watch the free UA-cam videos and I took notes of the methods. They learnt from their methods: they didn't learn from their own courses. I'm preferring to use some classes, then carry on with graded reading and YT video/podcasts. Online friends and tutors in the language are very affordable too.
I've just checked out the video on Luca's channel. I think they aren't saying it's impossible but more why would you do it when there are other faster methods. I like watching videos, listening to podcasts and reading so I'll do that, if people prefer other methods that's absolutely fine too. I personally notice a difference between words I have acquired over words I have looked up. That said I have looked up words I have repeatedly heard and still wasn't sure from multiple context so I don't think it is a binary choice between one and the other. Providing you're getting input who cares what other people think about the methods, right?
Maybe its a different discussion I saw but I didn't think they were dismissing ALG (perhaps I misunderstood, I just had a quick look). I think they were criticising the hard cover version of ALG, i.e. not outputting until very late in learning. I think their point was more that some ALG courses put ideology above common sense. I'm neutral on this as I've not seen any convincing comparative studies, but in my experience ALG learners of English do learn 'smoother' more fluent English, but its reasonable to think that it might take a lot longer if you are going for 'extensive' rather than 'intensive' learning. Its like the difference between walking/cycling for a few hours or doing a high intensity 20 minute gym workout. They both work at getting you fit, its really a matter of objective and opportunity as to which is better.
The biggest benefit to ALG is that there is no need to have knowledge of another language to use the material. I use this channel called Nihongo No Mori and they teach Japanese in Japanese, but they started it to be able to help people that people they were working with in Vietnam, so someone who is Indonesian or Vietnamese or someone from Latin America who doesn’t speak English is getting the same amount of benefit from the content that I am. And I think that is the purpose probably of some of the classes they mentioned with international students from different backgrounds that don’t speak the language and you have to teach all of them.
I stopped listening to Luca's advice when he argued with me that he had an American accent. I'm American, he isn't. There is nothing wrong with accents, but if you can't recognize that you don't know everything, then what else do you not know?
I love how you put your headphone recommendation in the description box. I'll seriously consider it as I look for new headphones for language learning :-)
Honestly, they're great. Though obviously shop around for what works for you. Makes it super easy to get input everywhere
Well timed - by a coincidence two people I follow on twitter today were talking about 'ramping up the pain' and 'needing to struggle' to improve their skills as if they were David Goggins. I didn't bother responding as... well, whatever. I think Stephen Kaufman had an important point about immersion that you always learn from immersion in language above your current level, but you don't always feel the improvement in the short to medium term. In other words, you have to trust the process. Its all about habit, not motivation, but you can only build that habit through an honest assessment of your own lifestyle and capabilities.
Hi Philip! If it's painful it isn't sustainable. Also, if you can do it in a more pain free way why would you choose something less enjoyable? Each to their own ultimately. I totally agree - I think changing my habits is the biggest thing that has changed my approach to learning a language. My habits now include comprehensible input and so over the long term it is inevitable I will acquire the language. With regard to harder content what I would say is that the benefit of easier content is I hear words and phrases I already understand but in a new context giving me a more innate sense of them rather than simply a translation, but yes, you have to move on at some stage
@@matt_brooks-green Yup. Of course, I shouldn't be handing out advice as I've nowhere near mastered the languages I'm working on, but I think the objective evidence is pretty clear. Its just frustrating to see so much bad advice and myths being thrown around - often by people who really should know better. I think the hostility expressed to Krashens idea has as much to do with a sort of macho belief that everything good comes from hard work as much as reasoned disagreement. Overwhelmingly, the majority of people I know who have learned English really well have done it by engaging with material they enjoyed, not through crunching through hundreds of hours of Anki or grinding through textbooks.
@@philipdavis7521 Yeah, very good point
Hey Matt, love the perspective and also I want help to improve my English language speaking for marketing...❤️
Hey Arun. Thanks for checking out the channel 👌
Sick thumbnail!! Nice video too
Thanks chap
Hi Matt. Hope you are well. Thanks for the video. Sound sensible advice. Like any pastime or hobby, just enjoy it. If when going to Turkey I remember more things than before and my conversations last a sentence or two longer then that’s progress. But Turks just live you trying as so few English speakers bother so you get loads of satisfaction in return. At least I think that is why they laugh😂.
Hahaha. Mainland Chinese sometime do the same. Something like pluralising hello to a group of people and they start saying how incredible my Chinese is 😂
Like someone else in the comments, this isn't what I was expecting. I thought it was going to be either a) literal, like, watching ads in a language (because they use the same vocab over and over) or b) another joke video, like "They said you could be fluent in 3 days - so use that as motivation!"
This is another great video. Genuine question: how long does it take you to make a video (let's say, this one) start to finish? (I know it will be an estimate... but if you work out writing, filming, editing... it should be pretty close.)
Hey chap, thank you. Still genuinely shocked people on the internet are being so nice. It depends. I typed out the longest response here but to keep it simple I will drop you an email. For anyone interested at least 12 hours at a guess...
Hi Matt !
I love your videos, but just wanted to point out that 我可以说有点汉语 (if I understood correctly) might not be the most natural way to say what you're trying to say.
I think that 我会说一点汉语 would sound better as 有点 is more often used to say things like 我有点累 and 我有点忙 (adjectival verbs, I believe they are called).
Alternatively, you could say something like 我汉语说得不错.
If there's a native Chinese speaker in the comment section, I would love to know if you agree!
Cheers 🙌
Hey Romain, thanks for the comment. You’re right. I thought I would spice up the intro without thinking about it. Really need to get back on the Chinese at some stage and try and remember everything I’ve forgotten 😅
I'm not a native speaker but ur definitely right, besides there's one little thing I wanted to add
漢語 sounds really official like u can hear it in 漢語課，漢語橋 or 漢語水平考試 for instance, people in general prefer using 中文 (obv it depends on where u live I've heard other terms like 華文/華語 more popular amongst 華裔 (in Sg n Malaysia for example)
國語 in Taiwan I've heard
Also some people in Mainland could also say 普通話 or a term I dun really like 中國話)
So 我會說一點中文
Common sense, constructive advice!