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  • @murlimanohar8520
    @murlimanohar8520 Рік тому +6

    Great discussion sir please keep doing the more video
    Sir mai waha se hu janha chuha sharab pi jatata hai😂😂😂😂

  • @triptisingh5516
    @triptisingh5516 Рік тому +39

    I remember Sanjay's joke " India me Science ko aese treat krte h jaise ladke wale ladki walo se, ki inse jo mil raha h le lo aur phir ye bhi bol do ki ye to mere pas pehle se tha.😂

  • @Bhagat_singh611
    @Bhagat_singh611 Рік тому +5

    Sir , I have been following Sanjay rajouri from starting. You are so rational, logical . And I love watching.

  • @anandhunt1000
    @anandhunt1000 2 місяці тому

    i am so fascinated by Physics I get astounded whenever i think of equations and laws and applies on the level of nature, how beautifully these formulas explain happenings around us. i can literally feel it the beauty.

  • @neerajverma9167
    @neerajverma9167 Рік тому +7

    I see most of the religious people making fun of science and technology by using mobile and computer and the worst part of it that people believe it

  • @neerajverma9167
    @neerajverma9167 Рік тому +7

    In India people take science degree only for job, not for understanding of beauty of science

    • @sudoanonymous96
      @sudoanonymous96 Рік тому +3

      sure, but lets not be harsh on them. In a country where people are struggling to make ends meet such taking a good job for a comfortable life is the top priority. Once a large mass of people will acheive certain privileges of comfort such ideas will develop.

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      If logic would prevail, life will be much productive

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Agree, but there is no excuse for ignoring science and logic, and awaiting miracles.

    • @neerajverma9167
      @neerajverma9167 Рік тому

      @@sudoanonymous96 Let's hope this will happen in future

  • @RaviKumar-tf1or
    @RaviKumar-tf1or Рік тому +8

    We are so sincere to our hypocrisy we get our kundali made by computer.

  • @TheTrueRationalist
    @TheTrueRationalist Рік тому +12

    Dabholkar Sir ne maharashtra me Scientific temperament pe bahut kam kiya tha unhiko maar diya... Maharashtra me anti superstition forum ispe bahut umda kaam kar rahi hai... North me iski kami bahut khalti hai... Har state me scienfic temperament badhane ke prayas hone chahiye kyoki aap science ke background se nahi bhi ho, fir bhi common sense use karke scientific temper istemal kar sakte ho... Aur ye samvidhan ne 51 A) H) me har Indian ki duty batayi hai...Aap unki kitabe padh sakte ho dabholkar sahab ki... Science kya hai samaj me aayega... Aur aap science ko kam nahi aakhenge ya manhus chizo se tulna nahi karego...

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +4

      Very well said. And it is indeed a challenge to drive scientific temper in our society, but we all have to keep doing it. Eventually it will increase, hopefully faster.

  • @sandymittal8007
    @sandymittal8007 Рік тому +1

    Again great discussion 🙏

  • @abhayinfotech
    @abhayinfotech 6 місяців тому

    Intellectual personalities.. very logical thinking.

  • @ArijitBiswas
    @ArijitBiswas Рік тому +4

    So many things to discuss and learn from these podcasts. Keep doing these.

  • @AmitAnand-kq4dj
    @AmitAnand-kq4dj 2 місяці тому +1

    I think it's because in India bureaucrats i.e. generalists have been running the show. Now slowly and steadily technocrats are taking over

  • @Gillrav
    @Gillrav Рік тому +2

    Great to see you back on UA-cam
    At your rational best 👌 👍

  • @spearhead5940
    @spearhead5940 Місяць тому

    As he said once - " basically,society is irrational. " People talk about Aristotle,Plato and wear 10 rings in five fingers simultaneously.
    This no scientific temperament made power vacuum in global south which led to superior militaristic commanders come over and rule us.

  • @Aman_nyc
    @Aman_nyc Рік тому +1

    Sanjay I admire your soch 🤝 allwyz waiting for ur content to show up !! After watching ATT you made me thinking to see the world in reality hats 🎩 off to you . Keep it up

  • @safiafarooqui1468
    @safiafarooqui1468 Рік тому

    Please upload these videos on daily basis I'm eagerly waiting for this....

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. We would love to do that, but not yet possible. Hopefully with support of people like you, one day we will. That is the aim.

  • @123xyzabccba
    @123xyzabccba 2 місяці тому +2

    Maharashtra mein blind faith aur jaadu tona karnewale babaa log aane mein dar jaate hai …. lately ek dhirendra naam ka babaa nagpur aayaa thhaa aur rato raat bhaag gayaa 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @theravikatariya.
    @theravikatariya. 2 місяці тому

    Greate dimension of talk☺☺☺

  • @mnkntmn6
    @mnkntmn6 2 місяці тому +2

    Hum science ke taraf se hai

  • @kumarnarayana5105
    @kumarnarayana5105 Рік тому +1

    Good to see you Sanjay Bhai after a long time. To me: Science is objective truth. Any culture is a subjective interpretation of truth.
    This subjectivity, typically, is limited to the worldview, experiences and perceptiveness of the people practising a so called culture.
    For example, science is like a set of musical notes and culture is akin to a musical instrument. And definitely, not all instruments are capable of delineating all notes in a complex musical piece. Cultures of this world are yet to evolve to possess the finesse to understand that the basic unbiased purity integral to science is the only unifying truth for the universe. 🙏

    • @Amritanshuupadhyay
      @Amritanshuupadhyay Рік тому +1

      "Unifying truth for the universe" is a bit of an extension of epistemological method .

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Science is a continuum where objectivity improves each day. Subjectivity persists in science too but gets minimised as we advance in each field. However, society as a whole takes much longer to update itself but it will have to eventually as there is no other choice. The speed matters though for an individual's life time is limited.

    • @kumarnarayana5105
      @kumarnarayana5105 9 місяців тому

      We are perhaps talking about the same thing here ! I am referring to science in my statement as a 'noun' while you are viewing it as a 'verb', as a process. And it will be a process till our minds are encapsulated in 'duality' the 'dwait'. Fundamentally, the human mind is 'free' and 'enslaved' at the same time. Science is a constant reflection of the objective nature of truth. Thanks! @@TheFourthDimensionChannel

  • @tapasvibhardwaj
    @tapasvibhardwaj Рік тому

    Bhai kamal kiya...itne kum subscribers mein sanjay rajoura aa gaya....😮...bahut umda content ❤respect for both sanjay and fourth dimension team.....

  • @shruti-rk1tr
    @shruti-rk1tr Рік тому

    I had discussion with someone who is hardcore supporter for science and technology..and discussion was about installing ai signs and descriptions in a historical site ....my stand was people are already submerged in selfies more than the buildings or historical ruins in front of them and now we are adding another technology in that space...in middle of discussion he said why are u so afraid of technology...i am not against science or technology but the kind of technology now being introduced in our world ...people who are investigating in the research so that the scientists can go on with their research are mostly from 1 % of world....they are interested only in making money...so technology now being invented or designed is focused on earing money ...these kinds of technology doesn't have enough research about possible negative impacts it would bring with it because that 1% of our population doesn't give a shit...and everything has has positive or negative or grey sides...but now technology is being introduced with the problem- solving and money earning mechanisms but doesn't tell that this could have these negative impacts also...and now in this crucial time we are living we really need to study in detail about negative impacts of any technology a lot before introducing any technology to sustain..maybe i could be wrong about this....but right now this is my understanding...

  • @rajendraagarwal7524
    @rajendraagarwal7524 Рік тому +1

    I come across many people on daily basis, who had taken science as a subject to become a professor somewhere or working in MNC but they are not even using common sense in simple little things. unscientific community is actually helped by these kind of people who had taken science as career option rather then actually bealiving on it. It's because of these people the most unscientific peoples are using scientific means as a tool to propogate their Unscientific ideas.
    I have been declared a negative and frustrated being by people around me for asking just simplest of questions.

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      We hear your pain and you are right. But the truth is in science and not in opinions. So buddy keep at it , as thats the only way we would know. No?

  • @tapasvibhardwaj
    @tapasvibhardwaj Рік тому +2

    I would humbly sugess....you also share these content on linkdin platform

  • @tapasvibhardwaj
    @tapasvibhardwaj Рік тому +2

    I am also a Social Scientist 😂but i do believe in science and your arguments too❤

  • @Fireddoctor
    @Fireddoctor Рік тому

    Science education is soaring to new highs and scientific mindset is stooping new lows

  • @yashagar4443
    @yashagar4443 Рік тому

    Awesome

  • @avanindrabismil734
    @avanindrabismil734 Рік тому

    Very happy to see you back Sanjay bhai..
    I think the reson of non-scientfic temperament in highly educated people in India is our upbringing.
    I totally agree with dr sahab that we taught so boringly science in schools,books of science in schools are not written responsibily they are not written for to teach something they are written for to pass the exams but the most important thing we as a society are highly religious,in every day life we are doing some irrational rituals because of religious beliefs.we as a society is not a democratic,not a rich,so free thinking also not existed in our society
    And now from 10 years this new government which is anti intellectual anti science,they are promoting irrationality, illogical things so science is now a villain for people..

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      Very well said. Thanks. Indeed scientific temperament has been suffering for various reasons. We all should push it around us. no?

    • @avanindrabismil734
      @avanindrabismil734 Рік тому

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel yes we have to push every day
      It's very hard in our society
      Logic and common sense is not common👍

    • @avanindrabismil734
      @avanindrabismil734 Рік тому

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel the biggest reason of non scientific temperament,we as a society is a feudal till now,that's why bhakti in every thing seems in our society and bhakti is feudal idiology..
      Nothing wrong in bhakti,but it is more centric on faith and belief not thinking,logic that's why we as a society are more emotional,love the litrature,from childhood we are starting feel more not think more👍

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      @@avanindrabismil734 in my view there is everything wrong with 'Bhakti' of any sorts. Rational thinking does not take one away from love, emotions etc...

  • @utkarshsrivastava7959
    @utkarshsrivastava7959 Рік тому

    Best rebuttal of every unscientific source around..

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      Thanks. Let us spread and normalise the word of science around us. This will help all of us.

  • @udaydesai9634
    @udaydesai9634 Рік тому +1

    I Believe In Science & Technology...🔭🥈

  • @skpaanda
    @skpaanda Рік тому

    Interesting discussion!

  • @skpaanda
    @skpaanda Рік тому

    One person comes to my mind. PB.

  • @zuesr3277
    @zuesr3277 Рік тому

    Donkeys are actually very intelligent animals they can remember complex routes and can remember their owner they recognise shapes and all and ultimate super hardworking

  • @tingneihatkuki8337
    @tingneihatkuki8337 Рік тому

    It's really nice ti see the conviction and passion with which Sanjay Rajoura ji speaks and Dr. saheb on the other hand has very calm presence.
    Really love the topics discussed and the dynamics that they share.
    Thank you for doing this.

  • @myhonestcomments
    @myhonestcomments 2 місяці тому

    Chill guys! Why even bother about those wokes?
    Simply, science just reveals all possibilities. End of it's responsibility.
    Then it's up to people what possibilities they use and what not.

  • @ManiKumar-ht1cf
    @ManiKumar-ht1cf Місяць тому

    I do not accept science AS A border less concept
    - O2 ,
    H2O
    or even H2o2
    or N3 orNH4
    I am a retired medical consultant
    Please tell me if my statement is Right orWrong if why and how?
    DrMani kumar Sharma

  • @somnathmaity9384
    @somnathmaity9384 Рік тому

    Science matlob Nehi malum...Every science basis on logic।But material science is logically proved with application...

  • @siddharthsharma-cm9of
    @siddharthsharma-cm9of Рік тому

    It was a good discussion...but it would be great if u could name some familiar or even unfamiliar Liberals with such thought process!! I haven't seen any popular Liberal in the media space, both new and traditional with such a thought process

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      Thats very surprising. Dissing science is very cultural around us and liberals do it in various ways. Pick anyone and you will find it.🙏

    • @siddharthsharma-cm9of
      @siddharthsharma-cm9of Рік тому

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel OK, KARAN THAPAR, BARKHA DUTT, RAM GUHA, SHASHI THAROOR, SHEKHAR GUPTA, RAJDEEP SARDESAI, JAVED AKHTAR ETC...HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING SPECIFIC FROM THEM IN THIS REGARD

    • @RavikantBargale
      @RavikantBargale Рік тому

      @@siddharthsharma-cm9of don't know about others, but Javed Akhtar is a rationalist. He often talks about scientific temperament.

  • @supreetsahu1964
    @supreetsahu1964 Місяць тому

    @12:00 😂😂😂😂

  • @shamakuma1967
    @shamakuma1967 2 місяці тому

    Yeha davai aur injection muft milta hai aur junk food machli biriyani ityaadi hazaro lakho rupye lagte hai.

  • @ae.ron-men_ezes
    @ae.ron-men_ezes Рік тому

    Kindly let us know books on basic science.

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Depends on what area of life you are interested in reading on... Food/nutrition, health, space, sports, technology, relations, mind, society....

    • @ae.ron-men_ezes
      @ae.ron-men_ezes Рік тому

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel I m from social science background, how science can be discussed in day to day talk or even simply explain it so that it becomes normal rather science is thought of something more than normal. So want books on that.

    • @supreetsahu1964
      @supreetsahu1964 Місяць тому

      ​@@ae.ron-men_ezes feynman's books- six easy lessons, six not so easy lessons. Start form here. If you want to go in detail try feynman lectures

  • @aniltuli5860
    @aniltuli5860 Рік тому +1

    Talking bluntly and making a statement... which may hit like a strong slap on the face of most of us Indians... who due to their unrealistic beliefs... have lost their ability and capacity to reason...
    Now the statement 👇
    _Commonsense is not very common in India_
    Like it or dislike it...
    To add further am sure that degrees with these fellas are either fake... or have just been obtained by mugging / cheating / copying / or by using any other false means...
    Just for this reason degrees awarded by our educational institutions... alone don't have any value as such....
    🙏

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your effort. But kehna kya chahte ho dost?

    • @aniltuli5860
      @aniltuli5860 Рік тому

      बंधुवर सख्त जरूरत है देश की बुनियादी से लेकर उच्च शिक्षा में एक मूलचूल बदलाव की जिसके बिना देश की दिशा और दशा बदले इसमें संदेह है... क्योंकि पिछले लगभग 5 दशकों में शिक्षा के स्तर में गिरावट को साफ देखा और महसूस किया जा सकता है...
      समाज के एक बेहद छोटे और आर्थिक रूप से मजबूत वर्ग को ही यह सुविधा उपलब्ध है... बाकी वर्ग को इस विषय में जागृत करने वालों की भी संख्या बहुत कम है... रही बात जनप्रतिनिधियों की...
      तो अफसोस की बात है कि यह करना हमारे देश प्रबंधकों की ना तो प्राथमिकता लगता है... और ना ही यह लगता है कि सत्ता की राजनीति साधने वालों के मन में शिक्षा सुधार का विचार भी आता होगा...
      🙏

  • @politicsofthings.
    @politicsofthings. Рік тому

    Yh h, modern interpretation of the words, hmne ruin kr diya h meaning, communism, liberal, secular. Yh itne pyaare awesome words h lekin moder interpretation ruin ho gya h. Secular, liberal toh gaali bn gyi h aaj kal.

    • @lmaoidgaf
      @lmaoidgaf Рік тому +1

      Ha bro literally 😢
      Mai toh secular and liberal ko starting se acha maanta tha but logo mai bhot galat interpretation hai...
      Communism toh rehene hi do 😂
      Uska toh interpretation uske base se alag kr rkha h
      Marx Lenin wale communism 😂😂

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      We all need to continuously reflect on our beliefs and improve. No 'ism' will give us 'akal' forever. These 'isms' do have the capacity to introspect and evolve, unlike rigid conservatism/radicalism.

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      Aaj kal fashion ho Gya haï har cheez ko Gali banane ka. Adipurush ki definition hi change ho Gayi hai.

  • @zuesr3277
    @zuesr3277 Рік тому

    College ke first year Tak sab science padhte hi hai India Mai par inke Ghar Mai ek achi kitab nai hoti matlab it's weird Personally I imported lev laundau books just for collecting them even phds can't understand them properly

  • @abuzarshaikh6537
    @abuzarshaikh6537 Рік тому

    Send sanjay on arnab show

  • @somnathmaity9384
    @somnathmaity9384 Рік тому

    Science kanha Nehi hai....😢😢😢😢

  • @somnathmaity9384
    @somnathmaity9384 Рік тому

    Oxygen kuchh second bandh ho jayega up kya koroge...

  • @samk6051
    @samk6051 Рік тому

    I saw chandrayaans scientists going to temple for blessing yesterday...
    Sir, what do you say about that..??

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      Pls dont get us started. In short, many tickets could have been fuelled by the 'boiling blood' event after seeing that unfortunate event. Very disappointed.

  • @bishnuprasadswain4111
    @bishnuprasadswain4111 Рік тому +1

    Ek baat, sciene hai wo thik hai, lekin ye maanne me dikkat kyun ki ye scienec already hamare ancestors na seekh liya tha in one way or the other ??? Tab problem kyun hoti hai?? Modern banne me toh mar rahe ho, tradition follow karne me kyun fatt rahi hai??

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому

      ancestors ne jitna seekha woh unke saath rha, science gives us new things everyday. WE have to make our lazy minds work and update ourselves otherwise we suffer more. Just like we update our phones, otherwise try communicating with pigeons. we do give up our traditions eventually, we have done that a lot too. so keep up with science is the key.

    • @bishnuprasadswain4111
      @bishnuprasadswain4111 Рік тому +1

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel fir, Scientist jitna sikhe wo v unhe sath hi rehna chahiye, ham kyun 300-400 saal purana Scientific statement ko aaj v maan rahe hai? ... Gazab hai, kitne aasani se bole, ki Ancestors ne no seekha, wo unse sath Raja !!! Waah.. wo seekhe, aur hame v sikhaya, taki hame bhi seekh mile, aur usko apne next generation ko pahucnhaaye..

  • @amitmohapatra1987
    @amitmohapatra1987 Рік тому

    Sanjay bhai..... padhe likhe sanghi MBBS HOD anesthesia dept dekha hai bhai odisha mein jo Muslim and Christian ko Gali dete dekha hai bhai.... liberal nahi dekha hai....

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      Surf minorities ko Gali déjà hi galat Nahin haï. Vaise ashwgandha khane Wale sur science based medicine ko rdiciule Karne Wale bahut liberals Hain, Nahin?

    • @skpaanda
      @skpaanda Рік тому +1

      Ashwagandha recommend karne wale modern medicine doctors bhi hain!

  • @vedantpatil15
    @vedantpatil15 4 місяці тому

    Waste of time. 15 mins into the video, they are still repeating the topic (issue). Looks like two college guys having a conversation in cafeteria.

  • @konscious6765
    @konscious6765 Рік тому

    Your conversation is going no where i feel.

  • @shamakuma1967
    @shamakuma1967 2 місяці тому

    Malayalee bohut hi dikhavati hai.apne aap ko sabse jyaada buddhimaan samjte hai.superiority complex jiska ilaaj nahi.yeha dikhavati ka culture hai chaahe mandir ho university ho ya hospital health sector.materialism nay inko bohut ghamandi bana diya hai.

  • @trendygiftsemporium
    @trendygiftsemporium Рік тому

    Sanjay ek video tum banau krishna par, jaise ganu par banaya tha, atleast Pata to chale itni kitni ladkiyon ko janta hain ki shadi nahi kar pa raha

  • @somnathmaity9384
    @somnathmaity9384 Рік тому

    Social science galat kam korti hai...

  • @somnathmaity9384
    @somnathmaity9384 Рік тому

    😂😂😂

  • @diamond_dew
    @diamond_dew Рік тому

    Kehna kya chahte ho?
    Theres no sexism in the scientific community?
    Disappointed to hear such views

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      There is sexism in the scientific community, surely. Much less than society in general though. And equality is a fight we all have to continue fighting.

    • @amitojha9649
      @amitojha9649 Рік тому

      Jitna bola hai bol diya. Kehna kya chahate ho matlab? Jitna bola hai utna suno na aap or us pe comment karo na.

  • @prabhattiwari3310
    @prabhattiwari3310 11 місяців тому

    Bhai aap apni knowlegdge badhayen... aapki ek comedy video se pata chala ki aapko ilm ki kitni kamtari hai. Aap khud se open minded hoke research karen thoda...

  • @gif5496
    @gif5496 Рік тому

    But sanatan culture Vedas are more scientific than science you didn't belive so go and learn Sanskrit and read vedas

    • @skpaanda
      @skpaanda Рік тому +2

      Ye comment copy paste karna hi aata hai .. thoda padhai khud bhi kar lo

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +2

      It's time to wake up bandhu. Life is limited don't waste it. :)

    • @gif5496
      @gif5496 Рік тому +1

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel and also tiny Nadar and isro chef all ready say Vedas are scientific it's mean you think you are bigger than isro chef and tony Nadar

    • @TheFourthDimensionChannel
      @TheFourthDimensionChannel  Рік тому +1

      @@gif5496 haha... in science evidence is bigger than the biggest of names. Infact names don't matter, proper evidence does. Seek truth not bhakti.

    • @gif5496
      @gif5496 Рік тому +2

      @@TheFourthDimensionChannel ok I challenge you go and make video on Quran and Bible and exposed them

  • @Zelda2950-k7y
    @Zelda2950-k7y Рік тому

    𝗘𝗸 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗮𝗮𝘁 𝗽𝗲 𝗸𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗮 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗵𝗶𝘆𝗲 𝗷𝗼 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝗱𝗵𝗸𝗲 𝗯𝗵𝗶 𝗱𝗼𝗴𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗸𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗸𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗲, 𝗵𝗮𝗶𝗻... 𝗦𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝗱𝗵𝗸𝗲 𝗯𝗵𝗶 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰 𝘁𝗲𝗺𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘇𝗲𝗿𝗼 𝗵𝗼𝘁𝗮 𝗵𝗮𝗶 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮 𝗺𝗲𝗶𝗻 𝘂𝗻𝗸𝗮.. 𝗜𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮 𝗺𝗲𝗶𝗻 𝘀𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘀𝗶𝗿𝗳 𝗲𝘅𝗮𝗺 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗸𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝘂𝗿 𝗽𝗮𝗶𝘀𝗲 𝗸𝗮𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗲 𝗸𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘆𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝗱𝗵𝗶 𝗷𝗮𝘁𝗶 𝗵𝗮𝗶.