4 Things School Didn't Teach You About Ancient Civilization

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  • @JSCRocketScientist
    @JSCRocketScientist 10 місяців тому +133

    Hero of Alexandria was a great engineer. One of my daughters was in college with two majors: Classics (Latin & Greek) and engineering. To settle how she would do her senior project, her two department heads got together and suggested that she translate some Latin or Greek engineering tomes and build something. From the writings of Hero of Alexandria, she translated instructions to build a torsion catapult and built a scale model. She was extremely popular at the demonstration where she shot bean bags with horse’s heads appliquéd on them across the campus lawn.

    • @sko_psy
      @sko_psy 9 місяців тому +10

      That's real education!!! 🎉

    • @inklingsun
      @inklingsun 9 місяців тому +5

      We built trebuchets in community college, one group did an onager, with prelaunch predictions of weight, height, distance.

    • @jasonkrantz3643
      @jasonkrantz3643 8 місяців тому +11

      I’m an aerospace engineer with an undergrad degree in philosophy. This is the best thing I’ve read on the internet all day.
      Please give your daughter a high-five for me.

  • @greybeardedgamer9383
    @greybeardedgamer9383 11 місяців тому +635

    I bet Catullus had a collection of "Yo mama" insults that were pure gold.

    • @AndrewMitchell123
      @AndrewMitchell123 11 місяців тому +12

      I wouldnt doubt that, bro was an inventor of them 🤣😂
      jokes aside, now I wonder who actually came up with yo momma jokes 😅 💯 💀 😎

    • @chrisdab-
      @chrisdab- 11 місяців тому +18

      @@AndrewMitchell123 yo momma did. I heard them growing up, they were fun.

    • @amandafaulks2515
      @amandafaulks2515 11 місяців тому +9

      I saw a video, I can't remember video, but one of the first yo mama jokes is carved on the wall of a cave in china.

    • @AndrewMitchell123
      @AndrewMitchell123 11 місяців тому

      @@amandafaulks2515 oh thats cool

    • @kaseyboles30
      @kaseyboles30 10 місяців тому +1

      @@AndrewMitchell123 Likely one of the first 10 folk to actually have language, possibly merely speaking aloud what used be told in gestures and pantomime.

  • @Sillyboy1226
    @Sillyboy1226 11 місяців тому +894

    It's sad to think about all the history that has literally crumbled away never be learned.

    • @Yupppi
      @Yupppi 11 місяців тому +55

      Don't worry, we barely learn much about our own time either that's actually happening to us right now.

    • @deathbeforedishonor9012
      @deathbeforedishonor9012 11 місяців тому

      It’s even crazier to think (I think it’s something like) 90% of human history is undocumented and unknown

    • @d1o2c3t4o5r
      @d1o2c3t4o5r 11 місяців тому +17

      Modern human history, as in the stuff from the past 100,000 years, is not super interesting. What is really upsetting is how many fossils we're missing out on because scavengers smash skulls to eat brains.
      We were pretty lucky that dinosaurs were so big that smashing dinosaur bones wasn't a strict expectation.

    • @zappulla4092
      @zappulla4092 11 місяців тому

      @@d1o2c3t4o5rdon’t do drugs.

    • @Ensensu2
      @Ensensu2 11 місяців тому +10

      @@d1o2c3t4o5rI blame brains for being the closest thing that wild animals might ever get to french fries.

  • @longlivroc
    @longlivroc 11 місяців тому +530

    You forgot Heron's most awesome invention; the aeolipile, which was not only the world's first functioning steam engine, but also the world's first steam turbine engine. Mf was about 2000 years ahead of his time

    • @AndrewMitchell123
      @AndrewMitchell123 11 місяців тому +17

      Dayum son, dudes literally out of this planet 😂

    • @leonmusk1040
      @leonmusk1040 11 місяців тому +33

      His poetry and verse were pretty good too old hero really was the package deal in the day. When we say Davinci, Leonardo say's hero.

    • @thomasprislacjr.4063
      @thomasprislacjr.4063 11 місяців тому +8

      Real life Mechanicus

    • @johnmrke2786
      @johnmrke2786 11 місяців тому +5

      Or the steam era was about 2000 years behind.

    • @InteractiveMediaXVI
      @InteractiveMediaXVI 11 місяців тому +1

      Man, i can relate

  • @abstract5249
    @abstract5249 11 місяців тому +470

    People always talk about paper and the compass whenever talking about Chinese inventions, but few laymen realize China also invented guns and cannons (not just gunpowder), the bristle toothbrush, the banknote (paper currency), playing cards, equal temperament (part of music theory) and, most importantly, inoculation (specifically a method called variolation, which paved the way for vaccination). These are far more important in the grand scheme of history.

    • @Uns46
      @Uns46 10 місяців тому +27

      Soccer, chess

    • @yong9613
      @yong9613 10 місяців тому +12

      Blame hiding behind Great Wall mentality

    • @abstract5249
      @abstract5249 10 місяців тому +70

      @@yong9613 The Great Wall is overrated. China's Grand Canal is much more impressive and significant. Built since the middle ages, it remains the longest artificial river in the world and still functions to this day, facilitating modern commerce and transport.

    • @yong9613
      @yong9613 10 місяців тому +4

      @@abstract5249 Marco Polo didn't mention it at length, ofc it's unheard-of in Europe, even the 'Great Wall' actually site was not brought to attention, ONLY some small insignificant mound of constructed stones to pass of as the real thing

    • @LotusPost
      @LotusPost 10 місяців тому +22

      ​@@Uns46 playing cards and chess are Indian inventions not Chinese.
      The name chess even comes from ancient Indian Sanskrit name.

  • @j.a.weishaupt1748
    @j.a.weishaupt1748 11 місяців тому +416

    I think it’s time for a rapper to pick up the name Catullus 16 and continue the important work our ancient friend started

    • @davewhite3629
      @davewhite3629 10 місяців тому +5

      And like the Athenians boy lovers

  • @Shaneq718
    @Shaneq718 11 місяців тому +87

    and just like that i'm sitting here at work tracking down Catullus' greatest hits :)

    • @jessifer23f
      @jessifer23f 11 місяців тому +5

      Please share the translated one.

    • @TheLostCorner
      @TheLostCorner 11 місяців тому

      ​@@jessifer23fAt risk of having my UA-cam account deleted, a rough rendering of the first and last couplets of Catullus 16 would be "Fuck *you* up the arse and *you* in the face, cock-riding Aurelius and cock-sucking Furius", except it's apparently rather stronger than that in the Latin.

    • @TheLostCorner
      @TheLostCorner 11 місяців тому

      You can also track Catullus' relationship with Lesbia (almost certainly Clodia Metelli, sister of Clodius Pulcher) as it swings wildly from fervent love to accusing her of kneeling in shit-smeared alleyways sucking off Romulus' filthiest descendants. Catullus did not pull his punches.
      Clodia seems to have gone on to have an affair with a "Caelius" and a "Rufus", quite possibly both references to Marcus Caelius Rufus, protege of Cicero and Crassus. If we're to believe Catullus, his armpits stank like goats and made the women gag. Or, to quote Peter Green's translation, "It's a nasty creature with which *no* pretty girl would share a bed. So either kill off this brutal plague of noses or stop being puzzled why girls run away". Catullus did not pull his punches...

    • @TheLostCorner
      @TheLostCorner 11 місяців тому +29

      @@jessifer23fJust in case UA-cam has censored my reply, which does seem to have vanished, it can be rendered "F *you* up the a and *you* in the gob, c-riding Aurelius and c-sucking Furius", except apparently it's a bit stronger and more obscene in the Latin.

    • @TheLostCorner
      @TheLostCorner 11 місяців тому +21

      (I followed it up with another couple of gems. One where Catullus has clearly turned on Lesbia (almost certainly Clodia Metelli, sister of Clodius Pulcher) given he accuses her of kneeling in poo-filled alleyways err providing pleasure to Remus' filthiest descendants; and the other where he accuses one Caelius (almost certainly Marcus Caelius Rufus, protege of both Cicero and Crassus) of having armpits that stank like a rank goat that no girl wanted to share a bed with and he shouldn't be surprised they all run away. Catullus really did pull no punches.)

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 11 місяців тому +531

    So....as for that translation....
    Lord Yub-Tub will censor the comment if I write it out verbatim, but essentially, it starts with the author telling two guys to take a, or rather _his,_ bell end in both ends and calls one of them a "bottom"(literally) and calls the other one a very old fashioned word with a definition somewhere between Twink, Lolita, and Escort.

    • @WakenerOne
      @WakenerOne 11 місяців тому +1

      Personally, I was disappointed when I read the translations. I was expecting the filthiest insults ever written, but I've heard worse from the mouths of elementary school students in rough neighborhoods. To try to avoid the Yub-Tub punishment, I will (only slightly) paraphrase and say that in today-speak, what he told them was essentially (and specifying that the object of the object of the exercise was to be his own um . . . object) to "Jam it up your [donkeys] and eat a bag of [Richards], you [female dog]-[donkey] [bags of sticks]."

    • @mortache
      @mortache 11 місяців тому +13

      Is it catamite???

    • @mariovilas4176
      @mariovilas4176 11 місяців тому +51

      "…Take for instance poem 16, against the lean and treacherous pederasts Aurelius and Furius. They
      derided him for writing love-poems in which nothing beyond kissing was involved; that sort of thing,
      they said, wouldn't excite anyone but beardless boys. Waiting such soft stuff, Catullus must be soft
      himself, and sexually effemitate. Catullus threatens to prove his masculinity on them in person, and
      argues that 'soft' poems that play on the emotions can be as stimulating as sexually explicit descriptions.
      'Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo…': the very obscenity betrays the underlying conflict of attitudes; only thus
      could Catullus get his message through to sensibilities so much cruder than his own. What Aurelius saw
      as a high-class bit of tail was to Catullus something chaste and innocent, to be cherished and protected."
      T.P. Wiseman

    • @AsmallVictory
      @AsmallVictory 10 місяців тому +6

      This seems sadly rather tame.

    • @Cocoa_Kalypso
      @Cocoa_Kalypso 10 місяців тому +11

      @@AsmallVictory the actual poem is far from. My jaw hit the floor on the first line.

  • @cassiechristian1147
    @cassiechristian1147 11 місяців тому +7

    Fact Boi, that was an amazing video! Thank you for sharing and having such a great team! The editing and writing were impeccable

  • @claywest9528
    @claywest9528 11 місяців тому +73

    The Greek notion of a fembot can also be in the myth about Galatea.
    The Roman notion that a poet can be so angry at contemporaries that it can be censored two thousand years later can be found in Cattalus 16.

  • @siobhanomalley1968
    @siobhanomalley1968 11 місяців тому +240

    Omg 😂 I just looked up Catellus 16. Legend has it that Aurelius and Furius are still applying ice to that burn, to this day...

    • @bamacopeland4372
      @bamacopeland4372 11 місяців тому +12

      That burn was so bad, a 5th degree of major burn needs to be invited

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest 11 місяців тому +13

      😅recommending some solid mutual atm action to those who dare to doubt his manhood is quite the baller move😂

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 11 місяців тому +3

      @@YeeSoestWell put. :)

    • @velzekt
      @velzekt 11 місяців тому +10

      If poetry is supposed to be about expression, holy hell he was a master of poetry and expressing himself.

    • @janinewonnacott8651
      @janinewonnacott8651 11 місяців тому +23

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus_16 - has the literal translation as well as a more modern prose translation. Let's just say there's a reason I'm posting a link and not the actual poem.

  • @wilsonicsnet
    @wilsonicsnet 11 місяців тому +29

    Catulus 16, now that’s one of those things you just can’t unsee 😅 Totally worth the read.

  • @xorngoh7303
    @xorngoh7303 11 місяців тому +54

    Ancient Chinese invented gunpowder too, and also silk and the loom. Crossbows and arbalests were also invented at around the Three Kingdoms era by Yue Ying, the lesser known wife of the famous strategist Zhuge Liang.

    • @DccAnh
      @DccAnh 10 місяців тому +11

      Crossbow have been around thousands of years before the Three Kingdom era, China were the first civilization to adopt mass crossbow as standard ranged weapon for army.

    • @mailen7341
      @mailen7341 10 місяців тому +3

      weaving looms have been in use since ( at least) the beginning of the neolithic period. Of course they were not looking like our modern looms but the technique and the tool, did exist already.
      So they are waaaaayyyy older than ancient China’s existence

    • @DccAnh
      @DccAnh 10 місяців тому +9

      @@mailen7341 yeah weaving loom have been around since the dawn of humanity, pretty sure the Neolithic ancestors of the Chinese also have them. China later on improve on its design and invented the ground loom, around 5000 years ago, this loom saw the warp threads stretched horizontally close to the ground while the weft threads were passed through using a simple shuttle. This made weaving large pieces of fabric more comfortable and accessible, ground looms are still used even today, particularly in regions where traditional weaving practices persist or where there is a preference for simple, portable weaving equipment.

    • @mailen7341
      @mailen7341 10 місяців тому

      @@DccAnh yes, all societies improved ancien techniques, to fullfill their needs. The fact that these are only improvements only shows the greatness of our ancestors. Weaving, spinning extract fibers, the invention of the needle, potery, the creation of the knife, all of these are humanity REAL achievements.
      Knives have almost not evolve in concepts or designs for more than15000 years needles for more than 20000 years!!!!!!.
      Weaving whatever sort of loom you are using ( their forms depend on local practicalities and necessities) is done the same as it was 10000 years ago.
      We tend to forget how small our achievements are compared to those of our early ancestors

    • @downtomars6268
      @downtomars6268 8 місяців тому

      @@DccAnh Evidence of the first crossbow (locks) was one in the beginning of the Eastern Zhou dynasty and a trigger mechanism appeared shortly after.

  • @jorgelotr3752
    @jorgelotr3752 11 місяців тому +21

    Things that I was taught in school from this list:
    -Chinese inventions: movable type printing press (just in passing), paper, compass (but not their appearance); basically all of them.
    -Inca road system (and their courier system made possible thanks to them); I believe they didn't mention the tunnel, but they did mention the rope bridges and called them "a feat of engineering".
    -Catullus, but not the poems themselves, I believe. But after searching "Catullus 16", I'm pretty sure that my Classics teacher taught us at least the first line (and that despite the fact that he mostly taught us Greek and Greek culture and rushed through Latin and Roman history).
    The only one not really taught was the one about Greek robots, altough they did teach me, at least as mentions, about a lot of other mechanism, contraptions and thingamabobs (including, believe it or not, the automatic doors).
    I believe the issue here would be the anglocentrism, where when someone from an English-speaking country, mainly England (could be extended to all of the UK, but that's rarer) and the US, tweaks an existing foreign invention or introduces something that wasn't known in their specific country suddenly they become the "invento" or the "discoverer"/"introductor to the Western world", but if someone from outside that sphere achieves something that, when squinting, may appear loosely based on something vaguely related to someone from an English-speaking country, then all the credit goes to the English-speaking guy. There are many outrageous cases I've come across, but the funniest one is that some English botanist dude is credited with bringing camellias to Europe despite the fact that by the time there were centuries-old camellias in Europe (some of which are still alive today!), just not in the British Isles, and they were a relatively common ornamental tree for the wealthy in places like Italy or Portugal.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 11 місяців тому

      I am sure there are a lot of ancient technologies that were never recorded or the records themselves deteriorated. Then finally kept in records, and continued to be passed on.
      Chinese were incredible with their record keeping for sure. Meticulous, and had an entire caste of scribes century after century working. It is probably why so many things seem invented there when it could be invented somewhere else.
      Pasta is a good example. I bet it was created way before anyone decided to write about it.
      The ten digit numerial system I think is amazing. Zero is such an abstract idea, and didn't exsist in Europe really till the 12th century till conflict in the Middle East. The oldest trace is from Babylonia.
      Romans did not have zero. Greeks only occasionally used it.(So I guess Europe did have it).
      Anyway it blew my mind. Then when you think about it. Doing complex math in roman numerials is horrific. So Romans... Great Engineers. Terrible mathematicians.

    • @jorgelotr3752
      @jorgelotr3752 11 місяців тому

      @@dianapennepacker6854 Pasta was indeed invented before anyone recorded it... and before anyone invented a method to record it. Dried noodle packets (as in protable lumps of dried noodles, not noodles wrapped in foil with condiment sachets) have been found in Neolithic camps in East Asia.
      And about Greeks and the 0... they only ever used it whe recording degrees with minutes and seconds, and it worked more like an empty set symbol than a zero (and it looked like an empty set symbol too).

    • @brotherfranciz
      @brotherfranciz 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, definitely agree with Eurocentric education - I was taught that European explorers "discovered" all these new continents and claimed the land.
      Mate, it's like me walking into your home and claiming I discovered it so I own it. 🙄

    • @jorgelotr3752
      @jorgelotr3752 11 місяців тому

      @@brotherfranciz technically, "discovered" is the correct term when you take into account the different meanings of the word. And I was taught that they either conquered or seized it, depending on the particular case.
      "Discover" with the meaning of "first discover" and "claim" are not terms that appeared in my curriculum, although I've found from cmments and conversations that those are the words used in countries like the US and the UK. Now, when you take into account that the problems of the US with the native americans in the seized mexican territories stemmed from literally treating the land as uninhabited and claiming it, despite the natives being the legal owners of their lands in the former administration (the issues with the native americans in the rest of the country come from forced treaties unilaterally broken), that may explain that choice of wording.

    • @rantymcrant-pants9536
      @rantymcrant-pants9536 9 місяців тому

      @@brotherfranciz If we use this as the standard for the use of the word then no one discovered anything, because it all existed prior to that moment.
      I would suggest you think more in terms that while Europeans discovered the Americas, on that day, the Americans discovered Europeans.
      Further, you can 'discover' a great holiday destination regardless of the people that have also discovered this.
      The world literally means to find something out you didn't know. There is no requirement for this knowledge to be exclusive or even new.

  • @stefiz
    @stefiz 11 місяців тому +41

    I decided to study mandarin during pandemic, I loved it. I’m addicted to ancient Chinese dramas now🤩

  • @bwar05
    @bwar05 11 місяців тому +130

    The first translation I read of the poem had me cracking up 🤣🤣. My guy DID NOT come to play 😂😂

    • @Ksoism
      @Ksoism 11 місяців тому +15

      He hits heavier than rappers beefing, and right from the first verse! Guy is brutal.

    • @miamor5929
      @miamor5929 11 місяців тому +3

      What explain ?

    • @chrisdab-
      @chrisdab- 11 місяців тому +1

      @@miamor5929 google search is your best friend.

    • @bwar05
      @bwar05 10 місяців тому

      @@miamor5929 check out Catullus 16. I can't type it without getting blocked lol

    • @BevenOiCarrinuinn
      @BevenOiCarrinuinn 10 місяців тому

      @@miamor5929 rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e16.htm

  • @steveswangler6373
    @steveswangler6373 11 місяців тому +12

    I always look at grade school as exposing children to different subjects, history, science, etc.
    Teaching children to think critically and then after the basics are taught, the children gravitate toward the subjects that interest them.
    I know this is an idealized thought, it’s how it worked for me, but I know that isn’t the way it is really set up.

    • @ArachnerdGC
      @ArachnerdGC 10 місяців тому +1

      They don't seem to teach critical thinking skills in schools these days. The world would be a much better place if it - and logic -was taught.

  • @Bubbaist
    @Bubbaist 11 місяців тому +295

    You know, the Phoenicians gave us the Phonetic alphabet, and they wrote on papyrus like the Egyptians. Unlike Egypt, Lebanon is a humid climate, so the papyri all rotted. That’s why we don’t have any writings from the people who gave us our alphabet.

    • @lionelmessisburner7393
      @lionelmessisburner7393 11 місяців тому +7

      they were goated

    • @davidjacobs8558
      @davidjacobs8558 11 місяців тому +9

      some claim Phoenician writing system is ultimately derived from Egyptian writing system.

    • @SkunkApe407
      @SkunkApe407 11 місяців тому +23

      @@davidjacobs8558 the Egyptians used four text styles in the past. Hieroglyphics, Heiratic, Demotic, and Coptic. None of which resemble Phoenician text. I don't know where you heard that, but it is vital to check your sources. Phonetic text was likely inspired by Egyptian hieroglyphics, but was in no way derivative of hieroglyphics. Derived and inspired are two different words, with entirely different meanings.

    • @liamhealy4511
      @liamhealy4511 11 місяців тому +9

      The phonetic alphabet is like "Alpha Bravo Charlie" etc.

    • @vinsanity982
      @vinsanity982 11 місяців тому +6

      @@SkunkApe407Google search shows several articles. Which means the OP 100% correct that “some people say”. And to your second point, the articles specifically say that the letters are simplified representations of hieroglyphics which would be a derivative. However, saying the information is wrong simply because the language “doesn’t look like it” seems pretty shaky and unscientific.

  • @Ivan_Ooze
    @Ivan_Ooze 11 місяців тому +80

    the ancient chinese dont get enough credit for just how much they innovated

    • @marksnow7569
      @marksnow7569 11 місяців тому +5

      Basic consequence of not letting outsiders wander round
      [EDIT: For example it's possible that the modern compass, with a needle, was not invented in China but 100% independently in western Europe, because such a compass is described being used in the English Channel before the first mention of Chinese compasses reaching the Indian Ocean]

    • @hzhang1228
      @hzhang1228 11 місяців тому +17

      @@marksnow7569 compasses with a needle is still first recorded in China. there is a long line of records for the evolution of the compass in China whereas Europe skipped to the maritime navigational compass.

    • @marksnow7569
      @marksnow7569 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hzhang1228 True, but the first description of a compass being used anywhere else outside the direct Chinese sphere of influence, about 40 years after the first European description, relates to a very Chinese-style "pointing fish". It's unlikely that the needle design was transmitted from China to the English Channel without somebody in either the Indian Ocean or the Mediterranean mentioning it earlier.

    • @hzhang1228
      @hzhang1228 11 місяців тому +12

      @@marksnow7569 historical recordings often follows common adaption. the common route of knowledge transfer from East to West happened along the silk route/Mongol invasions. different technologies found different popular use due to different needs. the lack of compass evolution and skipping to the more refined model indicate knowledge transfer. it may well be that it transferred through landlocked areas that had less usage and adaption and written record would lag the much more sea faring regions of Europe. movable printing press was also invented in China and was improved in Korea into metal cubes. but block printing was still more popular due to the fact too many Chinese characters made movable types have a huge upfront cost to produce even if the characters can be reused, where as in Europe the written language made the technology much more economical and thus more popular. you have to follow the line of technological evolution, not popular usage, because needs are different based on variety of factors.

    • @ogre-m2z
      @ogre-m2z 9 місяців тому +6

      @@marksnow7569 China was a VERY open country, it is only during the late Qing (so the last ~200 years) that it changed. Unsurprisingly it matches their downfall from world's #1 superpower.
      But before that, it was extremely well connected to the outside world with trade, scholars, politics, etc. - including up to Africa and Europe.

  • @masonh3468
    @masonh3468 11 місяців тому +95

    Was very disappointed that no one had posted the first line in English yet so I found the translation. Now I know why.

    • @jimgsewell
      @jimgsewell 11 місяців тому +8

      Don't leave the rest of us disappointed

    • @jimgsewell
      @jimgsewell 11 місяців тому +18

      Oh, 😳 never mind

    • @masonh3468
      @masonh3468 11 місяців тому +10

      @@jimgsewell Yup, those were my thoughts exactly.

    • @TheLostCorner
      @TheLostCorner 11 місяців тому +21

      I actually did. I think my comment was censored by UA-cam since I can see it in my history but it didn't appear under the video.
      This isn't a *surprise* but I thought it was worth a try.

    • @travisinthetrunk
      @travisinthetrunk 11 місяців тому

      “I’ll push your s**t in and stuff your face.”

  • @randomramblings2325
    @randomramblings2325 11 місяців тому +21

    Great video, please do a part 2

  • @vedicdharmonaut
    @vedicdharmonaut 9 місяців тому +2

    Love the content! Keep up the great work! Please do a similar video on ancient India. There is a lot to unpack from ancient India! I would recommend Indian knowledge systems, 6 big philosophies, Vedas, vedangas, upavedas. There are some great videos out already but take a look into it!

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 11 місяців тому +23

    I loved ancient history as a kid and my father encouraged me to learn, being a classics graduate who became a deputy headteacher who taught Latin and English. I still have a set of ancient history books I brought, as a junior school kid. So I know some of this already.
    Did you know the Viking raiders also used primitive compasses using magnetic stones, that they got from the Silk Road, but most Europeans as you said didn't have them. Recent archeological finds of longships have occasionally found them. But they were nowhere near as sophisticated as Chinese or later European ones. Just magnetic stones in boxes, that you needed a primative map to use, along with a knowledge of the night sky and sun positions.
    I love that the Greeks knew about steam power, but left it to us Brits in the late 18th century to create the Industrial Revolution. 😁

    • @leonmusk1040
      @leonmusk1040 11 місяців тому +1

      Also prior to getting lode stones they used a piece of feldspar to see the sun through cloud cover.

  • @Techstriker1
    @Techstriker1 10 місяців тому +1

    This is why I like the Civilization games. You just passively pick up so many cool history stuff like this.

  • @ChinaJalette
    @ChinaJalette 11 місяців тому +33

    I’ve taught the first two things to my kiddos in 10th grade world history this school year! I’m a first year teacher at a public school in Kentucky so they’ve not had a chance to burn me at the stake for teaching history thoroughly yet.
    I read/translated these Catullus poems in high school Latin myself. It wasn’t in the curriculum but as a bunch of degenerate seniors, we were translating these recreationally.

    • @robwo
      @robwo 11 місяців тому +10

      My college library contained volumes of Catullus' poems printed in the 19th century. Most of the poems were printed in English, with the naughty bits in Latin. This encouraged the desperate schoolboys to top up their Latin studies.

    • @annabarr1304
      @annabarr1304 11 місяців тому +2

      Off topic, but I'm thankful for my 3rd grade teacher who also went off grid. She was Canadian and made sure we learned the metric system because the majority of the world used. That little move on her behalf was a huge move for me.

  • @jordanwalker2804
    @jordanwalker2804 11 місяців тому +38

    Catullus over there with the earliest of dis-tracks...

  • @nicholascecil6733
    @nicholascecil6733 11 місяців тому +143

    Catullus 16 did NOT disappoint 😂😂

    • @durk5331
      @durk5331 11 місяців тому +13

      It really did not, that's amazing XD

    • @velzekt
      @velzekt 11 місяців тому +26

      I laughed uncontrollably at the first line, "Pēdīcābō ego vōs et irrumābō"
      It's like hearing a kid insult you on Xbox voice chat.

    • @bretthompson5343
      @bretthompson5343 11 місяців тому

      What's is it !! Lol ​@@durk5331

    • @ScionStorm1
      @ScionStorm1 11 місяців тому +9

      C16 is a whole ass mood

    • @edwardbookman5791
      @edwardbookman5791 11 місяців тому +12

      I know it would be dirty, but goddamn! Catullus was a gansta!

  • @renee_3364
    @renee_3364 11 місяців тому +2

    One of my most vivid memories of grammar school was having to translate Catullus’ poem about a woman “playing with/petting the little sparrow in her lap” and being violently uncomfortable with the innuendo when having to read it out loud. Specifically how excited our teacher got over it…😅

  • @christiancook3118
    @christiancook3118 11 місяців тому +80

    This video got Googles search history looking REAL suspect the last 12 hours.

    • @AveCaesar2025
      @AveCaesar2025 9 місяців тому

      Put it this way, for some reason google won't let me access Catullus 16, apparently access is blocked.

    • @m2burles1
      @m2burles1 9 місяців тому +1

      @@AveCaesar2025I read it through a wiki link in one of the comments

    • @AveCaesar2025
      @AveCaesar2025 9 місяців тому

      @@m2burles1 I tried that but google wouldn't let me so I used my tablet and a totally different search engine and had no problems. Can see why you might not want to read it out loud in a video though. He definitely had the knack of getting his point across in a very very direct - and unmissable - way.

  • @jasonlucas2328
    @jasonlucas2328 10 місяців тому +4

    A book was written five thousand years ago in China. The book describes huge-sized animals like dinosaurs and provides geographic descriptions of Chinese mountains and seas. Chinese thought it was a fairy tale until they entered the industrial era. Then, they realized that the book accurately described the Chinese coastline. Also, in Chinese folk knowledge, some farmers in rural China can name many stars in the sky.

    • @downtomars6268
      @downtomars6268 8 місяців тому +1

      Stories of werewolves, vampires, dragons came to Europe from East Asia via the Slavs.

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 11 місяців тому +3

    Oh. The title of Catullus 16 just literally made me burst out laughing. DEFINITELY not something I would ever expect in a high school classroom, that's for sure!
    Maybe in the schoolyard, though. 😏😂

  • @the5THofNOV
    @the5THofNOV 11 місяців тому

    Great video Simeon and team!

  • @dplj4428
    @dplj4428 8 місяців тому +4

    1:24 bi-sheng invented a printing press that pre-dated that of Gutenberg.

  • @OscarSchneegans
    @OscarSchneegans 8 місяців тому +1

    I learned about the Chinese inventing the compass and printing press in school (and water clocks). Same with the Inca road system.

  • @MJC-yo5kj
    @MJC-yo5kj 11 місяців тому +27

    In the United States they gloss over the eastern Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, because of its relation to the Eastern Orthodox Church’s relationship with the Soviet union at the time and was taken out of textbooks during the Cold War

    • @inklingsun
      @inklingsun 9 місяців тому

      Plus, dumb people work for less

  • @joegagliardi3984
    @joegagliardi3984 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m a history professor, and since I can remember, I’ve always enjoyed learning. When I was a high school student in the late-90s, it was obvious that there was simply not enough time to learn about all of world history. It’s difficult enough to get through the main events and issues in U.S. history, all 400 years of it, let alone expand on it. In addition to this, there’s thousands of years of ancient history and world history to teach. When I see titles like, “What They Didn’t Teach You in School,” it’s as if you’re suggesting that teachers purposely ignore certain subjects because they only care about western history and culture. Nothing could be further from the truth. What you’re forgetting is that if you want to learn more about the Ming Dynasty or the Kingdom of Benin that’s what the library, internet, and college are there for. Nobody is blocking your access to knowledge; at a certain point, your education is in your hands. It’s also important to keep in mind that the same is true for high school students in other parts of the world. In China, India, Zimbabwe, and other Asian and African countries, they did not study American history. They were taught more about their own history and regional experiences.

  • @MKahn84
    @MKahn84 11 місяців тому +5

    Excellent video!
    I was taught many of these things in school (Chinese invention of paper, printing, and gunpowder; Incan Quipu). But then, I'm old, which means that, sadly, what you're documenting is the decline in modern schooling. I have a problem when you say certain inventions "made their way" to Europe. Yes, there was printing - some with movable type - in China and the Arab world as well. It did not take off and remained nothing but a little-known "side project" or curiosity in both because their writing methods did work with movable type (and apparently problems with their inks).
    There have always been a lot of smart people, and many things have been invented in multiple places at different times without any communication between the cultures. The wheel and the related waterwheel are two examples, as is rope, watercraft of various types, sails, oars, etc. Printing and the compass also are both examples of this. Gutenberg's real genius came with the invention of the process by which he molded the type, including the particularly metal alloy used, and of the printing press itself. But consider that it was Italy that provided the primary route by which ideas passed from east to west. Gutenberg invented his press in Mainz yet 20 years later half known printing presses were built in Italy. Had printing "made its way" to Europe from China, it would have arrived in Italy first, not been invented in Germany. But let us not forget that Gutenberg's invention could not have happened without paper, a Chinese invention that definitely made its way to Europe. I vaguely recall that there was some skullduggery involved in the process of smuggling that whole process out of Chinese control.
    Part of the reason printing did not really take off in the Chinese and Arab worlds was their method of writing wasn't amenable to printing. It really took off in the west because the Ancient Egyptians set in motion alphabets with stand-alone letters, thus allowing type cases full of individual letter type. Standard practice was, for each font and size, the capital letter type was stored in the case above the type case with the smaller, normal letters, which is why we call them "upper case" and "lower case" letters.
    The compass also didn't "make it's way" to Europe. The Arab world (the normal route for travel of inventions from China and India to the west) didn't begin using the compass until the 13th century. That was not only decades after the first European compasses were developed in the late 12th century, but the Arabs' first compasses were of the Chinese spoon design while the first European compasses were already needles by the last decades of the 12th century. Marco Polo would not make his journey along the Silk Road to China until almost a century had passed after the development of the compass in Europe.
    The invention of quipus was total genius. The climate is inhospitable for anything like paper and ink, yet they had the need to record and communicate information. Clay tablets could have worked, but they're heavy and difficult to transport without damage across any distance given the landscape. The quipu provided a robust, lightweight, easy-to-transport recording and communication system.
    No doubt it was lack of time that prevented mention of Hero's steam engine (aeolipile). Absent the abundant slave labor that the Roman Empire depended on, it's very likely that Hero's invention would have produced a Roman industrial revolution, especially when coupled with further developments of the mechanisms in his robot. A steam-powered Rome with its roads becoming railroads may have never fallen.

    • @brunchmuncher51
      @brunchmuncher51 11 місяців тому +2

      Most of the time, people don’t pay attention in school hence “oh it was never taught to us” , a lot of these types of videos or who mention europeans are just trying make a jab at europeans.

    • @hzhang1228
      @hzhang1228 11 місяців тому +3

      in China there is a long record of the evolution of printing press and the compass, whereas European lacks records of that evolution. plus printing did take off in China, block printing was just cheaper. movable type was at first expensive but when introduced to Korea they then refined with metal blocks. they were instrumental in preserving important text and thus was not some little known side projects that has centuries of development and usage not the mention the high cost involved. it was not Italy that provided the primary route of ideas from east to west, it was the Mongol invasions which drove ideas first to Germany before Italy. also by the time the compass was used for navigation in China it was a needle. European records skipped to much more refined knowledge of such technologies, indicating a transfer of knowledge happened.

    • @amadeojacohinde3630
      @amadeojacohinde3630 10 місяців тому +3

      Many people underestimate the influence or Marco Polo journeys to China and it's permanent footprint on later European development of science, education and navigation (just 3 big examples). It is actually not even in the official narrative of education systems, mainly because, you guess: eurocentrism yet lives in western cultures. But yeah, China played a much more important role in Western history than we give them credit for...

    • @nungiceman
      @nungiceman 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@amadeojacohinde3630 I think most people thought of the Marco Polo's journey to the east as a joke or fictional at the time. Watched a documentary years ago about that journey. Can't remember by which channel. Could be discovery. They retraced his entire journey and confirmed that he definitely went to China. Some of the things that was documented, really was eye opening.

  • @trishapellis
    @trishapellis 11 місяців тому +4

    Too bad the sections that schools cut out of the curriculum for time are often the ones that make the whole concept interesting in the first place.

  • @TheKris333
    @TheKris333 7 місяців тому +1

    I just spent almost a month visiting the "Inca" ruins and road systems in Bolivia and Peru. The local guides said that "Incan" is inaccurate - these pre-dated the Incan rulers.

  • @limlim1630
    @limlim1630 11 місяців тому +5

    The short intro had someone using a yellow highlighter pen...they highlighted the space between the words..i won't sleep tonight !

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim 11 місяців тому +1

      Ocd that bad?

  • @martytrueblood5902
    @martytrueblood5902 11 місяців тому +2

    the medicine wheel is the greatest invention
    as that led to navigation ..humanity and reason..
    it is a first nation conception and long calendar
    as well as the natrual compassion of earth

  • @johngriffon2118
    @johngriffon2118 11 місяців тому +7

    Catallus really said "Bring It"

  • @exmcairgunner
    @exmcairgunner 11 місяців тому

    Simon you’ve nailed it again.

  • @johnfyten3392
    @johnfyten3392 11 місяців тому +3

    It's the first and last verse of the poem that really say it best

  • @angelodira6193
    @angelodira6193 9 місяців тому +1

    I'd like to thank Civ V for teaching me about China's contribution to paper. That green dragon is a fun civ to play.

  • @zoopdterdoobdter5743
    @zoopdterdoobdter5743 11 місяців тому +9

    Ancient Egypt: _35' long scrolls are a limiting factor._
    'X" Today: _280-characters and attention spans half-as-long._ 😩

  • @jontsang7334
    @jontsang7334 11 місяців тому +3

    Before the Yuan Dynasty (1274-1368) China's Emperor's rule was far from absolute; the locals retained much power. China became a centralized political entity starting from the Ming Dynasty (1368) up to now.

  • @tavonfenwick-yb5xv
    @tavonfenwick-yb5xv 11 місяців тому +5

    Great video as always!
    Love from Baltimore, Maryland, USA

    • @tristanhallmark2724
      @tristanhallmark2724 11 місяців тому +2

      You watched a 14 minute video in under 3 minutes? Doubtful.
      Sure this will be a good one though

    • @philbarlow8645
      @philbarlow8645 11 місяців тому +1

      Came here at minute 4 to say the same thing

    • @willisgirl1
      @willisgirl1 8 місяців тому

      Wow! I’m from Baltimore too!!!

  • @Paste4brains
    @Paste4brains 8 місяців тому

    I see this guy in multiple channels covering different genres. If he owns all those channels then I'm impressed.

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 11 місяців тому +63

    BTW, it's hypothesized by an article that the Printing Press likely spread because of the Uighurs because the first text came from Dunhuang, China. Metal Movable type was Koreans, Choi Yun Ui, who started at first with Chinese letters in Goryeo, but later applied it to hangeul. The first metal movable type text is in France, The Jikji ,because France commandeered it during a World Exhibition from a Korean Prince, but then didn't give it back. The thing that Gutenberg invented was the adjustable type mold, which allowed for different fonts more easily, etc of different sizes, but people still want to attribute a whole host of other things to him instead of the thing he did invent.

    • @radaka
      @radaka 11 місяців тому +2

      Wow. Just curious, how do you know all that? Sound pretty smart

    • @AndrewMitchell123
      @AndrewMitchell123 11 місяців тому +8

      oh, so is this another reason for the Uighur oppression then... challenging the Han-Chinese view of their domination of Ancient Chinese history

    • @SEAZNDragon
      @SEAZNDragon 11 місяців тому +5

      @@AndrewMitchell123 Not to mention China became fairly isolationist in the 1500s. Went from sending fleets as far as Africa to keeping to China's immediate area. There's also the issue of Chinese print using characters craved into wood blocks which still a long and tedious process even if the print made writing easier.

    • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
      @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 11 місяців тому +2

      @@SEAZNDragonThey also did clay for a time, but those broke under the weight.

    • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
      @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 11 місяців тому +7

      @@AndrewMitchell123Definitely spread by Uighur people, invention, as mentioned was Han people. But the spread of the ideas of printing, according to the article I cited to another person was likely Uighurs. If you missed it, the Islamic Empire was pretty awesome all around. As outlined in this video, I mean autmatons from the Islamic Empire? We need more of that kind of cool history--which is why I think being focused only on your country can be boring. If you never see how everything interconnects and how awesome trade can be, you think that your people are the best, rather than the cooperation of humanity is the greatest.

  • @user-cf4ti9id7x
    @user-cf4ti9id7x 11 місяців тому +9

    I'm dying laughing, I think that's my new favorite poem.

  • @CrisMind
    @CrisMind 11 місяців тому +8

    The ancient Chinese are also the inventors of the clock

  • @aceloco817
    @aceloco817 11 місяців тому +1

    Dang, how many shows does this dude host?! Gotta be the busiest host in the business! 😆

  • @KhaoticKalm
    @KhaoticKalm 11 місяців тому +30

    Catullus… I’m going to need to speak to your mother young man 😑

  • @r.uuriintuyah.2053
    @r.uuriintuyah.2053 10 місяців тому

    I love that I can see the ikea cactus set in so many UA-cam channels

  • @devamjani8041
    @devamjani8041 10 місяців тому +4

    I wish you also had mentioned the Indian civilization and its inventions. India was the global epicenter for maths, science, logic and philosophy for the longest amount of time and was also the richest and most industrious for the longest right until the brits arrived. India was the richest and most industrious country before the brits came amd also the scientific and mathematical capital of the world. That is why everyone was searching for a way to get there. Because they read from the accounts of amcient Greece and Rome about how great India is. Aristotle mentioned it while tutoring Alexander. Romans were worried that Indian goods are capturing all of their market and too much of Roman gold going there to pay for these imports. India's contributions to STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics), political science, civilization, philosophy, concepts of human rights, civil rights, economics, diplomacy, etc. The list of these facts is infinitely long so you will have to do a lot of research by your own, but i will list my favorite ones here.
    1) The entire decimal number system, which may as well be the greatest invention/discovery ever in the history of humanity, the system that we use today world wide, was developed in India. That is why it is called the Hindu numerical system. Some history textbooks call them Hindu Arabic system, which is totally false. The arab/Persian mathematicians themselves NEVER claimed them, they themselves called them the Hindu numerical system. This system was developed in India by contributions of various mathematicians whose name and works i will give below, then when the muslims came they learned about it and one mathematician, called al Khwarizmi, who was the greatest mathematician of the islamic world at that time and arguably of the entire islamic golden age, wrote a book about it called On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals, written about 820, which was principally responsible for spreading the Hindu numeral system throughout the Middle East and Europe. It was translated into Latin as Algoritmi de numero Indorum. Al-Khwārizmī, rendered in Latin as Algoritmi, led to the term "algorithm". His another work, called al-gebre, also based on primarily Indian mathematics but also greek and his own contributions, gave rise to the term algebra. When i say the Hindu numeral system, i don't just mean the ten symbols from zero to nine, but the entire system which also includes the rules ( algorithms) on how to do all types of calculations with it. How to apply addition, subtraction, multiplication and division amd other mathematical operations on these numbers. Further, this system allows us to represent any rational number just by using these 10 symbols, something not present in ANY OTHER system that ever existed. You can't do it with roman numerals, Greek numerals, Persian, Mayan, etc, not a single one can do this or any of the above mentioned features. Not only that, when later negative numbers and fractional numbers where discovered, Indian mathematicians developed rules for doing calculations with them as well. All of this was done by Indian mathematicians, namely Brahmagupt, Aryabhatta, Bhaskara I, Bhaskara II, Virahamahavira, Mahavira, Pingala, Madhava, Nilikantha Somayaji, etc. These mathematicians also made other fundamental and pioneering and revolutionary contributions to mathematics. Brahmagupt discovered the quadratic formula, zero, lots and lots of contributions to algebra, lots of theorems, etc. Madhava, who also founded the Kerala school of Mathematics, almost discovered calculus over 250 years before newton or leibnitz were even born. He made pioneering and fundamental contributions to many fields of maths such as study of infinite series, calculus, trigonometry, geometry, and algebra. He was the first to use infinite series approximations for a range of trigonometric functions. Among his many contributions, he discovered infinite series for the trigonometric functions of sine, cosine, arctangent, and many methods for calculating the circumference of a circle. One of Madhava's series is known from the text Yuktibhāṣā, which contains the derivation and proof of the power series for inverse tangent, discovered by Madhava. Aryabhatta invented/discovered trigonometry among a lot of other things. I encourage you to look this mathematicians and contributions to maths, physics and astronomy online. There is so much more, and this continues to this day, in the modern times there were Ramanujan, S N Bose, etc.
    3) India is the oldest civilization in the world, called the Harrappan civilization or the Indus valley civilization. We invented city planning, underground drainiage system, buttons, soaps, shampoos, diamonds, steel, etc. The world's oldest living language is Indian ( one of Sanskrit or Tamil ), the world's first Port was built in India by the Harrappan civilization in Lothal, Gujarat, the world's oldest religion is Hinduism, etc. Everyone from ancient greece to ancient Persians, to Chinese, whoever came to India sang praises of India. The ancient Greeks called India the Cradle of the civilization. India was the richest country in the world for over 1600 years.

    • @RAJAT6555
      @RAJAT6555 8 місяців тому

      It's a waste of time trying to even expect this from a non-Indian. Itna energy aur samay laga diya bhai, lekin sachchai yeh hai ki kisi ko koi interest nahi hai. At best, they will ignore you, at worst, they will come up with stuff like 'Hindu nationalists' or 'caste system' or 'sati', whenever you try to even ask for a fair treatment of Indic civilization's contributions to the world, and by 'fair treatment', I mean just the sort of dispassionate, attention-to-detail analysis which they use for China or the Mayans.
      Kadva sach yeh hai ki puri duniya hamse (yaane ki Indic logon se) bhayankar nafrat karti hai. Phir bhi hamaare log inke approval ke liye foreigners ke talve chaatte hain, aur is bhram mein rahte hain ki baakiyon ke saath ham bhi 'fit-in' ho sakte hain. Main toh bas yahi maanta hu ki jaise ko taisa karna yehi akal vaali neeti hai, aur jaise poori duniya hamse nafrat karti hai, vaise humko bhi saare non-Indians se utni hi nafrat karni chahiye. Vyaapaar karo sab ke saath, par dosti nahi, koi hamdardi jataane ki zarurat nahi unse, aur madad karna toh bohot door ki baat hai.

    • @alanlim4830
      @alanlim4830 8 місяців тому

      No words of how the modern Indians are so delusional… there is no India back then, just a bunch of Kingdoms. It’s the Brit’s that came in, conquer the whole Indian subcontinent and that’s it. How can India be the richest country for as you say 1600 yrs if there is no India??? And even that, it’s debatable if the all the kingdoms of India gather all their riches together, they are richer than the Chinese back then. What’s with modern Indians? Are they so insecure and have to sprout all this to boost their confident? Sad

    • @Ivan-bg1jp
      @Ivan-bg1jp 7 місяців тому

      @@RAJAT6555 You can't expect that from white people. It's a lucky situation that the ancient Chinese were fond of record-keeping that made it impossible for the whites to revise history now. But unfortunate for you Indians since your ancestors weren't into writing to keep records LOL

  • @benlap1977
    @benlap1977 11 місяців тому

    Wow, did someone from Side Project actually read my comments? Excellent intro!

  • @satyrosphilbrucato9140
    @satyrosphilbrucato9140 8 місяців тому +8

    Not until I saw the terra cotta warriors touring exhibit about eight years ago did I realize that the technologies of assembly lines, standardized parts, and mass production of goods with interchangeable modular elements are Chinese innovation that date back several centuries Before Christ.
    We Yanks were, of course, taught that those are modern inventions of the Industrial Age occurring roughly TWO MILLENNIA later.

    • @kmoustakas
      @kmoustakas 5 місяців тому

      Thank me later, the oldest Terracota army is in north cyprus.

  • @deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813
    @deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813 9 місяців тому +2

    1:30 no I think most people know that paper originated in China. It just feels like part of the lore.

  • @themcqueendream6797
    @themcqueendream6797 11 місяців тому +10

    Well hot dang if that is poetry then call me Shakespeare 😂

    • @grumpyoldnord
      @grumpyoldnord 11 місяців тому +4

      Just wait till you find out what all Shakespeare wrote. 🤣

  • @ashr7307
    @ashr7307 11 місяців тому +2

    There's a hell of a lot more than just 4 things!

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 11 місяців тому +7

    "The Four Great Chinese Inventions -- compass, gun-powder, paper, and print -- are legendary. Less talked about are meritocracy and banknotes."
    -- Thorsten J. Pattberg

  • @elessartelcontar8208
    @elessartelcontar8208 8 місяців тому

    History is best served coherent. It makes sense to teach Euro-centric history within Europe. You would only need a few references here and there. For example when it comes to modern book print. There needs to be a reference to anschient techniques but Gutenberg did invent typesetting which actually is more important than pressing inked letters onto paper as such.

  • @AreUmygrandson
    @AreUmygrandson 11 місяців тому +14

    I chose to read the text books at school and there was a lot they weren’t teaching. Was very confusing

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 11 місяців тому +2

      I always read the whole thing too. But in class we used like 10-20% of it....

    • @jamesberdine8574
      @jamesberdine8574 11 місяців тому +3

      I think a lack of time has a lot to do with not covering the whole text. I grew up overseas and did not live in the U.S. until I was a sophomore in high school.having been to many of the places discussed in history and geography class I found some of the information wrong. Got into many heated discussions with the teachers.

    • @davethompson3326
      @davethompson3326 11 місяців тому

      The lot they weren’t teaching was generally the most interesting

    • @AreUmygrandson
      @AreUmygrandson 11 місяців тому +2

      To be honest I only read the books out of boredom as I didn’t enjoy schoolwork. I was often in “ISS” in school suspension. My only options were the dictionary or text books. Subsequently, I actually did really well on standardized tests.

  • @mariededkova603
    @mariededkova603 11 місяців тому +1

    We learned about Bi Sheng in high school! Granted, I studied publishing and book selling and we learned this in the book history class.

  • @jhanner80
    @jhanner80 11 місяців тому +5

    Catullus basically starts with the poet saying, I will conduct an unsolicited probing of you cranium.......orally!

    • @leonmusk1040
      @leonmusk1040 11 місяців тому

      you forgot after going via your sphincter earliest record of a2m. lol

  • @competitionglen
    @competitionglen 11 місяців тому +2

    Oh my, Cattulus you did wax lyrical. 😂. I will never see the number 16 and not think of you.

  • @CinnastixChick
    @CinnastixChick 11 місяців тому +3

    History is not as Eurocentric as we've been taught to believe? Who would've thought 😂

  • @brunozeigerts6379
    @brunozeigerts6379 9 місяців тому +1

    They mentioned the printing press in MASH. 'Frank, these BARBARIANS were printing with movable type in 400 BC." Pearce: Yeah, I was in 401.. the noise kept me awake all night.

  • @Umski
    @Umski 11 місяців тому +6

    Yep, just been watching a documentary on the Khmer Empire in Cambodia - fascinating what we aren’t aware of 🤔

  • @gregrea9578
    @gregrea9578 11 місяців тому +1

    I love these "Things they didn't teach you in school videos" that then go over the things that I, as a *high school* world *history teacher* , actually _taught in school_ 😆.
    If you didn't learn this stuff in high school, it's probably cause you were stoned or too busy texting your girlfriend during my class.
    (or maybe I was boring that day).

  • @whatitmeans
    @whatitmeans 10 місяців тому +7

    A chinese mathematician near year 450 A.C. found Milü = 355/113, an approximation of pi which match 5 decimal places

  • @Xind0898
    @Xind0898 8 місяців тому +1

    One of the benefit of East Asian education is that what's in the curriculum is a a much more balanced view of the world (vs western centric view that is very prevalent in western education system). If you chat with average joe from each country, you often find the East Asian knows alot about EU/US/Middle Eastern history than the other way around

  • @megaflux7144
    @megaflux7144 11 місяців тому +63

    who the hell didnt know china invented paper?

    • @JonHancockUK
      @JonHancockUK 11 місяців тому +10

      You, at some point in your life.

    • @megaflux7144
      @megaflux7144 11 місяців тому +2

      @@JonHancockUK not really, I just assumed Rice paper came from... china

    • @leonmusk1040
      @leonmusk1040 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah when he was 5 maybe lol.@@JonHancockUK

    • @abstract5249
      @abstract5249 11 місяців тому

      Ikr?😂Paper is overrated. What most people don't know is that China also invented guns and cannons (not just gunpowder). And when I say "gun," I mean a handheld, metal tube that shoots projectiles.
      But the single most important Chinese invention has got to be inoculation, which paved the way for vaccination. Imagine where we would be without vaccines. Smallpox and polio would still be rampant.

    • @mariovilas4176
      @mariovilas4176 11 місяців тому +3

      You'd be surprised how often that fact is not taught in schools in the West.

  • @blbaugctvc8071
    @blbaugctvc8071 7 місяців тому

    did a vehicle come from somewhere out there? Just to land in the andes? Was it round? And did it have a motor? Or was it something different?

  • @lukedumoulin8204
    @lukedumoulin8204 9 місяців тому +10

    people don't realise that china was the most advanced, most powerful nation in the world for thousands of years, right up until the 12th century, and if u consider the Mongols as part of China(they eventually become Chinese), then until the 15th century. Very underrated

  • @dalhaw6760
    @dalhaw6760 10 місяців тому +1

    Actually I was born 1981 and i learned in school that the Chinese came up with gunpowder flame thrower and fireworks and paper and indigo and spaghetti, but I think I might have might have learned. that last one from tv Muppet babies . Is when kermit was magellan

  • @BartOppeel
    @BartOppeel 11 місяців тому +8

    Pēdīcābō ego vōs et irrumābō.
    UA-cam does not allow the translated version ;)

  • @vladciobanu7480
    @vladciobanu7480 10 місяців тому

    Nice ones. For sure, there are a whole log of others not mentioned, but most of them are for historians, not for everyday students.

  • @fredjackson8408
    @fredjackson8408 11 місяців тому +3

    Bro socialcredmaxxing with that thumbnail

  • @PC-vx6ko
    @PC-vx6ko 5 місяців тому

    I learned about bridges made of grass in South Carolina public schools in the 80s

  • @TheRangerDanga
    @TheRangerDanga 11 місяців тому +8

    UA-cam won't let me post Catulus 16 poem lol its too vulgar, but it's very entertaining!

  • @xbroadwaybx
    @xbroadwaybx 11 місяців тому +3

    I wish this video was 3 hours long

    • @jrmckim
      @jrmckim 11 місяців тому

      Same

  • @bochica3562
    @bochica3562 11 місяців тому +8

    "Pēdīcābo ego vōs et irrumābō." Now, that's what I call poetry! 😅

  • @thomasmiracle7826
    @thomasmiracle7826 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video would love to just sit down and have a conversation with you have you ever thought of doing a pod cast

  • @philbarlow8645
    @philbarlow8645 11 місяців тому +7

    13 minute video released 4 minutes ago and already comments on it…🤨

    • @SilentRacer911
      @SilentRacer911 11 місяців тому +4

      Yup, people click on new vids just to say “first” or “this guy is so stupid” or anything in between and at least half doesn’t make sense

  • @andregonzalez1496
    @andregonzalez1496 11 місяців тому +1

    No mention of Hemp paper. 😊

  • @atthelord
    @atthelord 11 місяців тому +7

    So is it only in the west that it was taught this way? I grew up in India and was taught about ancient civilisations, paper/ printing being Chinese and a lot of things you went over today.

    • @jejbsh2191
      @jejbsh2191 11 місяців тому

      The west was too busy learning about things that would keep us from living in a straw hut

    • @SilentRacer911
      @SilentRacer911 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, pretty much. We can’t wrap our small brains around all the information. We have so many “mental health issues” people don’t want to push their kids anymore, it’s disgusting

    • @trnogger
      @trnogger 11 місяців тому +2

      Well, don't forget the west is also pretty diverse in education. Just because this isn't taught in some parts of the west doesn't mean nobody learns these things.

    • @francislutz8027
      @francislutz8027 11 місяців тому

      In public schools I was in "gifted classes" from 3rd grade to 8th. 9th grade through 12th I took a handful of Advanced and then AP classes, just slightly more in depth courses yielding 1/2 again as much credit as a standard class towards your diploma.
      I didn't learn any of this. Gutenberg, Tigris and Euphrates history, Egypt, Greek, Roman, some European but eastern history only and then a lot of American history although much was untrue. We were taught Columbus landed in the continental US, Native Americans started it, British and French were both good and bad depending on when, the US saved the world in WW1 and WW2 with the US fighting both fronts and beating not only Japan but Hitler and crew. All laughably false. I just learned last week, at 42 years old that I've been lied to my whole life and the US didn't beat Germany because we barely winning in the Pacific. The Soviets handled Germany, and they were allies just months before

    • @berzerkbankie1342
      @berzerkbankie1342 11 місяців тому +3

      Don't listen to these idiots I learned about all of those things in highschool and had to pass a state mandated history test about these topics.

  • @texashustler9845
    @texashustler9845 11 місяців тому

    We need more Cattulus. Cattulus 16 is truly the most badass poem ever written

  • @nnf9431
    @nnf9431 8 місяців тому +5

    The Chinese also invented gunpowder

    • @downtomars6268
      @downtomars6268 8 місяців тому +2

      Related to this which no one talks about is the gun in its most basic form sometimes the hand cannon was invented in China. A military weapon most advantageous in the conquest of cultures, countries, continents and made the West.

    • @sola4393
      @sola4393 7 місяців тому +2

      Gunpowder, silk, paper, china/porcelain, compass, ramen(hand knead noodles), tea, fireworks, clock not the type of clock of these days, the kind that tells time, weiqi/go a form of chess but not chess, abacus a form of calculator, plus many more if to dig deeper.
      China was rich and very advance in ancient time, they even have astronomy mapping and reading of the stars. There were many different sectors with scholars that handles different type of needs through out the history of every dynasty.
      I am sure there are tons of stuff people have never heard of and still being discover in countries with rich long history.

  • @AveCaesar2025
    @AveCaesar2025 9 місяців тому

    You didn't mention the Greek/Roman version of the modern day tachograph, ironically used on rental carts so the owner knew exactly how far they had travelled and could thus charge the appropriate amount (apparently they charged by distance rather than time hired). And it used small pebbles and some probably fairly complicated gearing.

  • @jamesw7381
    @jamesw7381 8 місяців тому +31

    When the ancient Chinese poets were writing poems, the ancient Europeans were still busy at forming their languages. 😂

    • @elessartelcontar8208
      @elessartelcontar8208 8 місяців тому

      And now both ancient people are long dead and only very few specialists can understand either ancient languages.

    • @kingyangyi
      @kingyangyi 8 місяців тому

      @@elessartelcontar8208Oh?

    • @19447427
      @19447427 7 місяців тому +9

      @@elessartelcontar8208 most chinese ppl understand old chinese date back 2000 yrs its a continuous civilization

    • @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ
      @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ 7 місяців тому +3

      @@elessartelcontar8208 The writing used in the Han Dynasty (200 BC) was exactly the same as today's. The only difference was the reading direction, wording and lack of punctuation. All students had to start learning "classical Chinese" from middle school. I don't quite understand what you mean by "only very few specialists can understand"

    • @sola4393
      @sola4393 7 місяців тому

      @@眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ That is why the typical west are very ignorance of the world except those few who venture out trying to understand other civilizations. Their ancient people are long dead yet they think others follows the same path as theirs with nothing to pass on.

  • @edwinwhitaker5679
    @edwinwhitaker5679 11 місяців тому +4

    Lodestone is not a magnetic metal, it is a magnetic mineral which is magnetite (ferric iron oxide )

  • @rossharper1983
    @rossharper1983 11 місяців тому +1

    I googled the C16 poem like a lot of people in these comments but found over a dozen different translations. While they all got across the same point, some were clearly using modernised words.

    • @wheeze_sanchez
      @wheeze_sanchez 11 місяців тому +1

      Using modern words is kind a necessity when translating a dead language to living people. But yes, they had a specific word for that. Also, you may be surprised to find that some turns of phrase are as old as history. I've seen "plowing" used to refer to intercourse in written works from the 9th century BCE

  • @LadyMoonweb
    @LadyMoonweb 11 місяців тому +4

    Papyri: say "pap-eye-ree".
    Come on, I believe in you!

  • @gravemomnito
    @gravemomnito 10 місяців тому

    Catullus 16 was my favorite poem to be assigned in college

  • @phoenix5103
    @phoenix5103 11 місяців тому +3

    When is a Llama not a Llama? - When it's an Alpaca

    • @petdoiseauR.H.
      @petdoiseauR.H. 11 місяців тому

      Ahahahaaa, ja. "affirming spit." 🦙😗

  • @PhredLG
    @PhredLG 10 місяців тому

    There was an article many years ago that listed dozens of inventions that the Chinese came up with and that not much came of them because they also invented bureaucracy.

  • @The_Hagseed
    @The_Hagseed 9 місяців тому +3

    These videos are just turning into compilations of free stock footage.

    • @jeremybieri8412
      @jeremybieri8412 9 місяців тому

      Read this comment before zi watched and yes your right lol but still fun to watch

  • @kylelong9176
    @kylelong9176 8 місяців тому

    Master Audio Compressor is badly setup and there is a distinct ring I'm hearing in the audio - get your sound guy on it! 👍
    Thanks for the poem!