MarathonGuy all the old games had halberds, scythes, axes, all kinds of different weapon designs that really do make sense with the weapons move set. MHW just realllllly drops the ball in this regard!
I was considering that but imo any LS playstyle prior to MHGen is at its core the same with just some minor differences, at least when you compare it to MHWorld which made LS more braindead with foresight and helmbreaker spam
CantaPerMe What are your thoughts on Gen LS specifically? I thought Adept was pretty braindead much like World “if you can foresight, you should foresight”, but Brave was broken AND still had a lot of things to play around with
You're making me want to start a longsword only new game. And here I started a greatsword only game today. I might do both though considering how badass this looks.
Honestly the World change to LS are so significant. In my opinion Foresight needs a rework. Helmbreaker is badass and fun, but Foresight is absolutely busted and when spammed can absolutely carry people. I mean it carried me through certain fights lol
Dave Chrome what make LS broken in world is how fast you can get the red spirit with foresight slash... it's a weapon that get more powerfull once charged, like cb but in world you can be in red in less than 15 sec in some cases. Not to mention how buster helmbreaker is
Not gonna lie Foresight makes LS pretty braindead in the hands of most people. You just shortcut to red everytime and try to helmbreaker whenever you can. I'm no speedrunner, but I've seen beginners up close, been a mid to kinda' high level player myself, and watched speedrunners, and most of the moveset doesn't get used due to these abilities. I'd argue that World LS requires less timing and understanding of the game to perform at any level than Gen 4 LS did at the same level (mainly due to Foresight, I think Helmbreaker is great due to it's emphasis on timing, positioning, and meter management). It's like how the SAED buff has invalidated the rest of the CB axe mode attacks. There's barely any reason to ultra, let alone do any other axe move. When you keep the charged shield buff from Gen but use the 4U damage model (or something similiar), you invalidate some of the weapon :(
LS is strong but its not game breaking strong. It doesn't interupt the gameplay of others, therefore it doesnt need to be nerfed. This is a pve game and ultimately game balance doesnt matter as much as what players find fun.
i still use this move set for my runs in MHW, just recently dived back in the game. still learning how to properly use the LS with foresight slash helmbreakers etc.
Hell yeah! Old school has a few more limitations but I'm interested in trying this out too. Also I'm very jealous of your shiny sword - PS4 player Edit: Yknow it's a bit strange how I questioned why you didn't helm breaker Nergi when it was on the ground lmao
lol I missed the long spirit combo (R, tri, R, tri, R, R). That's how it was done in 2G (freedom Unite) and 3. There's no side fade slash as well or round slash in 2 (freedom) if I remember correctly.
You should try the AT one with the old moveset, will be more interesting to see than the punching bag that is the normal Nergigante:P PS: Is that the best set for DPS for Taroth Fire btw (as in skills)? I keep forgetting to make a set for it so might as well imitate yours but with Gamma Nergi legs instead for slightly more defense...
I've seen it, but you do realize that video is SEVERELY outdated, it came out 7 months ago, most ATs weren't even a thing back then... With Nergigante Gamma some sets can be improved (if not skill-wise at least defense-wise) while others are only possible with certain pieces of it.
That's alright Canta, already farmed it on PC through mods to unlock him anyways so not in a rush to see him, just thought it would be interesting to try the old weapon movesets against him since old movesets almost never had overcommitted combos/animations, so they'd work nicely even if it means lower damage output
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I think I've done an old school GS run shortly after release already. As for hammer, the playstyle is still fundamentally the same so it wouldn't feel that much different imo
@@CantaPerMe Yes it is, the New combo. Old school didnt have that option where it swings back then foward in that cool move that increases the bar faster.
Set is shown at 2:24
Mod used:
www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/1092
Sugoi
Ah, the inevitable e-hentai x MHW collab
Hey Aki 👋
Those i-frame rolls were sooo crisp! And I love how deliberate those hits were, delaying to get staggers and breaks!
Canta Is not being honest with us.
Admit It: All you wanted was to clip that (0:09) ;D
😳
**grunts in blademaster**
Been fighting using old school LS until post double tempered bagel because I never knew what helmbreaker and foresight was lul
7.4/10 not enough tripping
Seeing it and thinking about it, a scythe fits the LS moveset pretty nicely doesn't it? A cool weapon skin to look at.
MarathonGuy all the old games had halberds, scythes, axes, all kinds of different weapon designs that really do make sense with the weapons move set. MHW just realllllly drops the ball in this regard!
@@J-Dizzle95 Ah I see, World is my first Monster Hunter so I wasn't too sure. It would've been cool to see some of those!
If you play mhgen go for the Ls that is made from Shogun ceanataur. It looks exactly like a scythe and has decent stats late game.
@@sharklemonade what about the Death Scythe LS from Freedom Unite? It's literaly a Scythe.
Except the stabbing part.. but yea.. previous mhgames had 1 ls that is scyth
Back in MHFU we even don't have that glowing bar lol
I think I'll try using the old movesets tonight. I miss hit and run greatsword.
The only way i beat arch nergi with hit and run crit draw great sword 🤣
Very satisfying to watch! Your spike breaks were so on point! 😍
i remember when ppl used to wave at the camera after a speedrun
Wait, where's the valor parry??
Old school it means mh4g
@@bobbysam1525 its a joke, fam
@@bobbysam1525 old school means 2g
@@xylashood6875 so you can do this (∆O + R ) combo in 2g? Hahahahhaa make it possible hahaha
@@bobbysam1525 I did not notice him doing that. Lol
What about prehistoric Ls run? (freedom unite move set)
Oh jeez
yeet
I was thinking the same thing XD
I was considering that but imo any LS playstyle prior to MHGen is at its core the same with just some minor differences, at least when you compare it to MHWorld which made LS more braindead with foresight and helmbreaker spam
CantaPerMe What are your thoughts on Gen LS specifically? I thought Adept was pretty braindead much like World “if you can foresight, you should foresight”, but Brave was broken AND still had a lot of things to play around with
You're making me want to start a longsword only new game. And here I started a greatsword only game today. I might do both though considering how badass this looks.
Am I the only one who find this more enjoyable to watch than the normal one?
Honestly the World change to LS are so significant. In my opinion Foresight needs a rework. Helmbreaker is badass and fun, but Foresight is absolutely busted and when spammed can absolutely carry people.
I mean it carried me through certain fights lol
Dave Chrome what make LS broken in world is how fast you can get the red spirit with foresight slash... it's a weapon that get more powerfull once charged, like cb but in world you can be in red in less than 15 sec in some cases. Not to mention how buster helmbreaker is
Not gonna lie Foresight makes LS pretty braindead in the hands of most people. You just shortcut to red everytime and try to helmbreaker whenever you can. I'm no speedrunner, but I've seen beginners up close, been a mid to kinda' high level player myself, and watched speedrunners, and most of the moveset doesn't get used due to these abilities. I'd argue that World LS requires less timing and understanding of the game to perform at any level than Gen 4 LS did at the same level (mainly due to Foresight, I think Helmbreaker is great due to it's emphasis on timing, positioning, and meter management). It's like how the SAED buff has invalidated the rest of the CB axe mode attacks. There's barely any reason to ultra, let alone do any other axe move. When you keep the charged shield buff from Gen but use the 4U damage model (or something similiar), you invalidate some of the weapon :(
Maybe the iceborne changes will balance it out more
LS is strong but its not game breaking strong. It doesn't interupt the gameplay of others, therefore it doesnt need to be nerfed. This is a pve game and ultimately game balance doesnt matter as much as what players find fun.
@@revelotear8936 "It doesn't interrupt the gameplay of others"
*Cries in Hammer while getting Flinched near head*
i still use this move set for my runs in MHW, just recently dived back in the game. still learning how to properly use the LS with foresight slash helmbreakers etc.
Also gg the title certainly delivers , it's definitely old school ls. Not much else to say lol
old school LS best LS fight me
Absolute beautiful, old school LS is like dancing with your opponent.
They say old school, but It has some great features from what I saw here :0
Last hit actually reaped his soul away
You crazy big baby, keep it up!💪
Suddenly it makes sense why crawling is in the game.
I've seen some intense LS user, but this is crazy amazing
since i can’t dodge with counter slash, i like this video
canta is an anime protagonist confirmed!!!
But this, does put a smile on my face.
I salute your for resisting the urge to use helm breaker. Lord knows that that's what kills me everytime I fight leshen...
I OG-ed for a year before learning to use foresight slash. Better late than never i guess..
I like this style, and not just because I can't land any big brain foresights or helmbreakers...
Ok but now do it with FU move set
What does peak performance and maximun might do?
What about old old LS move from MHFU
poor nergi got carted again by Arch Tempered Canta.
Not gonna lie, I miss old schiol LS.
Alax Wäng I dont miss that shit
Hell yeah! Old school has a few more limitations but I'm interested in trying this out too. Also I'm very jealous of your shiny sword - PS4 player
Edit: Yknow it's a bit strange how I questioned why you didn't helm breaker Nergi when it was on the ground lmao
Awesome run. I think a Switch-axe would be better with this T-elos mod tho
Just about to say, she's an axe in Xeno2. But I think the mod is definitely simpler as a LS than trying to cover the switch from axe to sword but idk.
Satisfying af
The old school without slash
But what about 2nd gen with no final spirit slash, no left or right fade, and no spirit after fade?
Stinko Stinkis in the grave where it belongs
The other veterans are here commenting, it's proof enough that it is old school.
Canta versus Nerg Old LS...meh...
Canta carving... 0o0!!!
What about old school bow run?
YO HE CARVED
Can somebody tell me what are the combos that canta used...pls cuz I'm a keyboard user not a ps controller. -Thank you a lot 😊😊😊
Old school hasnt the 3 LS charge
Damn that mod looks anime af 👌
lol I missed the long spirit combo (R, tri, R, tri, R, R). That's how it was done in 2G (freedom Unite) and 3. There's no side fade slash as well or round slash in 2 (freedom) if I remember correctly.
3rd gen onwards is correct. 2G/Unite is still the oldschool fade slash/4th spirit hit
Movement feels way too smooth, reeeeee
What the?!! What kind of weapon and armor.is that?
I wanna see old school charge blade to plss
2:54 why
How can I get that sword? :)
Mods
Jesus. Just wow! 😮😮😮
You should try the AT one with the old moveset, will be more interesting to see than the punching bag that is the normal Nergigante:P
PS: Is that the best set for DPS for Taroth Fire btw (as in skills)? I keep forgetting to make a set for it so might as well imitate yours but with Gamma Nergi legs instead for slightly more defense...
Check out jinjinx and tuna max deeps ls build you ll find the best one there
I've seen it, but you do realize that video is SEVERELY outdated, it came out 7 months ago, most ATs weren't even a thing back then... With Nergigante Gamma some sets can be improved (if not skill-wise at least defense-wise) while others are only possible with certain pieces of it.
Tho tho they have a new one to
AT Nergi is planned for the stream when he comes out on PC, I won't be making a video of it though
That's alright Canta, already farmed it on PC through mods to unlock him anyways so not in a rush to see him, just thought it would be interesting to try the old weapon movesets against him since old movesets almost never had overcommitted combos/animations, so they'd work nicely even if it means lower damage output
and that mod is for all long sword series????
I'm afraid to ask, but how many times did you have to reset because your muscle memory kicked in?
0 times. Did reset a few times because I couldn't stop limp tho
Are you italian? Be cause your UA-cam name is. (For this e Who don't know, it means "Sing For Me") i allo ask be cause i'm italian too. Also (i feeling bad asking this), arte you a boy or a girl? (I honestly can't tell). One more thing, i'm one of your new subscribers now, just subbed a few minutes ago.
Nah I'm german
So... Why an italian UA-cam name? You Also forgot to answer the second question (i still feeling bad asking this).
was it hard for you not to foresight slash? there's no way I'd voluntarily give up that skill lol
Not at all actually.
@@CantaPerMe I suppose it's just like back in the day for you, so can we expect old school hammer and old school greatsword runs too? :p
@@Angels-Haven Yes please! Old school GS is the best! I still use it in world
I think I've done an old school GS run shortly after release already. As for hammer, the playstyle is still fundamentally the same so it wouldn't feel that much different imo
@@CantaPerMe But we want more Old School GS Canta-sama!
Oldschool longsword used to lose sharpness
why you make me feel bad .... i have to get good now
Now this is epic, how about other weapon and only using old school ammos
Can you also download mods on PS4? I loved the Xenoblade ones 😁😍
Gervin Baquiran Sadly no. Gaming community wants us to get depression
My main weapon in mh3u
Finished the whole game just by using LS hahaXD
RIP Spiky boi
This is aminal cruelty
Should've been called "dark chocolate vs spiky Boi"
When you’re so good that you run out of ideas and make a video about being a noob without pro move sets
Jk good run, canta.
Could u get banned for using such mods or its client only and u arent affected ?
It's client only, other people won't see the mod unless they have it installed too.
@@CantaPerMe noice,ty
You know whats sad is i could do the same thing and get like 2 views :/
Old school longsword is just great sword
Wow , an actually good mod for once. Nothing amazing but at least it's not eye searingly ugly.
Wait...really?
Damn! That's fantastic! Praise the mod!
Das war...atemberaubend...diese mühelose Eleganz mit dem Langschwert...einfach unglaublich gut.
Gilette hat angerufen.
Sie wollten wissen wie du so eine glatte Rasur hinbekommen hast.
Its not old school If you do the trick for faster charging at the very 0:30 of the video
what do you mean that's just the 3rd spirit combo attack?
@@CantaPerMe
Yes it is, the New combo. Old school didnt have that option where it swings back then foward in that cool move that increases the bar faster.
@@hectorjuarez730 That wasn't a Foresight Slash lmao
Yo is that a mod or a new weapon on mhw
Best Mod Ever.
A esos de pc sin sus mods no viven jajaja
Not old school just want us to see his clip...clickbait
Telos 👍🏼
Sees mod.
*Crying in console*
@Undead Meme thank u
Try Harder Yeah, you need a mod to cry and you cannot get that mod for console. So do not cry, just cart
Hame run
Im i thr only one sees the Hitbox of all the weapons in MHw is to OP?
Anime hunter world
Shows that LS is overrated with new school
Honestly, how i would play LS when i am to start world. The extra flashy nonsense is nonsense. But eventually i would do that nonsense
His combo was mh4u it's not old school .
Kos-mos xd
1st >:)