None of them. The W1 is ugly...Ferrari is a crap company...and nothing will excite me about an electric car. So...pass? Having said that...the real greatness coming from those companies right now is in WEC/IMSA racing...and once McLaren finally gets their thumb out you'll have a proper competition between Porsche/Ferrari/McLaren at the top level of motorsport.
Every discussion of a "New Holy Trinity" seems so forced... a decade ago it just happened, this time everyone is trying to make it a thing when it just isn't...
@@DevKumar-bi2ldValhalla is at another level compared to the SF90. And the Valkyrie is above these 3 and belongs in the top group alongside the AMG One and Jesko.
@ The Valkyrie is probably a better fit than the Valhalla but it’s a bit older than the others. But if you go after the ”old” holy trinity with the Laf, p1 and 918 where all cars where released in the same year the Valhalla or mission x is probably a better fit. But Porsche are probably not going to make the x so.
@@cookedit how so? Aston doesn't state 0-200 time for Valhalla which irons out that Valhalla is slower than half a decade old ferrari lol, also Aston doesn't even make their own engines, lol using gt black series engine for Valhalla ,sf90xx and Valhalla got similar aero, Valhalla is more like level below compared to sf90 ,it weighs more than sf90 even though it's based on a carbon tub and sf90 is based on aluminum lol, also after 3years Valhalla will be worth 50% off, while sf90xx will only appreciate in value
Yea I don't know how they haven't heard that yet. Porsche asked their customers and no one wanted a fully electric supercar. So they scraped it for a hybrid that's coming soon. It is a gorgeous car though. But EVs are just plain boring.
@@Craftyboy89 You definitely belong to a minority, because the majority would definitely take the Porsche. Anyone who can afford such a hypercar would simply buy both cars.
No they don’t. They’re leagues ahead of whatever this “holy trinity” has at the moment. In fact it’d be an insult to put them amongst these relatively mere mortals
Porsche missed the boat. Mclaren and Ferrari released their cars within 1 week . Porsche can’t just take more time to make a car which is obviously gonna be better than the 2 because they would have the time to see what the others did and improve on it. Aston Martin deserves the spot. They release the Valhalla a month after the W1 & F80. It’s a fair amount of time. That’s the whole point of the holy trinity. That’s how the P1, 918 & LA Ferrari did it. No one had extra time to make a better car
Dear Porsche, put an engine in it and actually make it. Dear Ferrari, put a v12 in it and make it look good, cuz it doesn't look good now. Dear McLaren, good job, but make it a bit more.... hypercar. Looks too much like a supercar with an aero kit.
Regulations have killed the ability for these manufacturers to do it again. Smaller companies like Pagani and Gordon Murray are the only ones that are much more interesting now.
It’s to match the brands of the old holy trinity Ferrari LaFerrari Mclaren P1 Porsche 918 All things being equal the Valkyrie is a much better candidate for a modern “trinity” but I get what they’re going for.
@@john_cullen Pointless when only 2 of those brands have cars this time and the Valkyrie doesn't fit because it was in a different tier and is from a previous era.
Aston Martin's contribution would be my choice and I'm disappointed you didn't include it. It's the cheapest here too so it's punching way above its weight!
Personally, I think of the Holy Trinity as the Mclaren W1, Aston Martin Valkyrie, and AMG ONE. The Ferrari looks like a Lego piece. The Porsche looks good, but it doesn't give me 'Holy Trinity' vibes.
Correct holy trinity should be F80, W1, and AMG ONE. Valkyrie is a level above anything else. F80 has LEGO vibes, and the W1 has HotWheels vibes with those disproportionately small wheels.
@@hugotogner168 They have a long history in making race cars and in racing, Radical is another brand they have competed against for years and they had the Nordschleife record for a long time. Praga specialize in making LMP3 style cars with the Praga R1 and in the Bohema case, we can call it LMP2/LMP1 style. I am 100% sure they have a really good product. All these new hypercars are all over 1,400kg and some even as much as 1,800kg. It just doesn´t seem right.
I'd argue if Ferrari McLaren and Porsche deserve the new Holy Trinity when it's about hypercar territory. Aston Martin, Rimac, Bugatti & Koenigsegg are building far more HYPER hypercars than these three at the moment. Jesko Absolut, Valhala/Valkyrie and Nevera can destroy these cars anywhere and everywhere, so maybe it's their time now.
The aston martin Valhalla is the 3rd member of this version of the holy trinity... At this point, Porsche is probably not going to go through with the Mission X
Really? I bet these cars drive worlds better than those. The P1 looks like a handful and entirely unenjoyable on public roads. The laferrari is aerodynamically unstable as the need for the fxxk. The only objective good one was the 918
The Ferrari is my pick they took the best engine they have and put in there the smaller engine allows for better aerodynamics, you won't be able to hear your car as your passing a valkarie. Ferrari said you want insane here you go
With the choices available, I’d choose a Bugatti TourBillion or a Koenigsegg Jesko or CC850, they are better than the rest and are at the top of the charts. Or a Rimac as they are silly fun.
This is really a downgrade going from LaFerrari and LaFerrari FXX Evo with v12 engines and beautifully designed to F80 with v6 engine and looked ugly 😒
I think Porsche recently said hybrid is the way to go. Perhaps the new 4.6L TT in the 963 lmdh. It is basically the 918 spyder engine with 2 turbos on it.
F50 was pig ugly! The F40 was race car awkward. The 288GTO was the best looking of the lot. This latest supercar looks special to me and will grow on people like the previous super Ferraris.
This is first time in my life when Aston Martin did a better job than the big three and made a much more interesting car. I would much rather have Valkyrie than any of those atrocities.
@jansedlak8505 it is true about the Bugatti it is not a street legal car although it could be if they wanted to. For the performance of the Valhalla we still do not know much only we can assume. There is also Aston Martin Valkyrie which is a street legal car.
I don't know about the T50 (or whatever it's final name was/is), as Murray came out and stated it wasn't at all about being a mega-super-hypercar, and I don't think it is. It's probably 10x a better car than any of the ones listed, but won't win you over on internet power points.
It's too bad the Porsche looks the best but has the most boring power train. The F80's engine is almost as uninspiring but the looks are growing on me. The McLaren is just as focused and ugly as most other cars they make.
Each car is a successor to the original holy trinity like the W1 is the success to the P1 etc but porsche haven't confirmed that the mission x is the 918 spyder successor, And they still haven't announced the successor of the 918.
Should be holy quattro. Mercedes AMG one, Aston Valkyrie, McCheese, Ferrari Lego. Those 4 should be in same hyper hybrid high performance segment on track and could be driven directly for road trip. The Protsch would be left behind because of charging.
From what I understand, Porsche isn't going to make an electric hypercar. They gauged interest from potential customers on the mission x unveiling and it wasn't up to their expectation. For the time being, I think we have to get the Aston Martin into the holy trinity.
The Mission X should not be apart of the trinity because it's fully electric where as the other 2 are hybrids. All cars need to be on the same playing field.
Which of the new ‘Holy Trinity’ hypercars is your favourite?
W1 by faaaar
Bugatti Tourbillon and Rimac Nevera R + Bugatti Bolide
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None of them. The W1 is ugly...Ferrari is a crap company...and nothing will excite me about an electric car. So...pass? Having said that...the real greatness coming from those companies right now is in WEC/IMSA racing...and once McLaren finally gets their thumb out you'll have a proper competition between Porsche/Ferrari/McLaren at the top level of motorsport.
The Aston Martin Valhalla
I really like the McLaren W1, I think people will start to dig the design like what happened with the P1
Funny how the 2013 cars still look like the proper next gen holy Trinity despite being more than a decade old
Because they set trends for years to come.
@@edrcozonoking 2004 car from the then holy trinity looks sharp.
Every discussion of a "New Holy Trinity" seems so forced... a decade ago it just happened, this time everyone is trying to make it a thing when it just isn't...
Yep, it's like the UFC trying to keep the BMF belt alive. It was a one-time thing that just happened, leave it alone.
Just let people be happy 😂
I couldn't agree more, well said dude
Yeah, considering what Koenigsegg are doing these days, seems kinda pointless.
Love how the Porsche looks but I think the aston deserves a seat in the holy trinity.
You mean valkyrie?? Cause Valhalla is more like sf90xx and revuelto svj competitor, in price as well as in performance
@@DevKumar-bi2ldValhalla is at another level compared to the SF90. And the Valkyrie is above these 3 and belongs in the top group alongside the AMG One and Jesko.
What if we just bin off this idea and just wait to see what the best of the best is first before picking prematurely.
@ The Valkyrie is probably a better fit than the Valhalla but it’s a bit older than the others. But if you go after the ”old” holy trinity with the Laf, p1 and 918 where all cars where released in the same year the Valhalla or mission x is probably a better fit. But Porsche are probably not going to make the x so.
@@cookedit how so? Aston doesn't state 0-200 time for Valhalla which irons out that Valhalla is slower than half a decade old ferrari lol, also Aston doesn't even make their own engines, lol using gt black series engine for Valhalla ,sf90xx and Valhalla got similar aero, Valhalla is more like level below compared to sf90 ,it weighs more than sf90 even though it's based on a carbon tub and sf90 is based on aluminum lol, also after 3years Valhalla will be worth 50% off, while sf90xx will only appreciate in value
TBH Porsche aint even gonna make the mission x
Yes the design is probably the next gen electric cayman
they should just make a 919 strassenversion nd call it a day
Yea I don't know how they haven't heard that yet. Porsche asked their customers and no one wanted a fully electric supercar. So they scraped it for a hybrid that's coming soon. It is a gorgeous car though. But EVs are just plain boring.
@@PEACEOUTXX1"going fast is boring" every EV hater ever
@@souvikmondal6161Nop thé design of the next gen Electric Cayman will be based on the Mission R smh
Take me back ten years!!! I think the AMG one and the Aston Martin Valkyrie and maybe the T50 are the new holy trinity IMO.
Very true
Yes I agree
I want to see them lined up on track or at the very least 1 driver 3 laps in each obviously on the same track!
FR
Valkyrie is faster than everything else, and the T.50 has a totally different purpose.
Nahh. Aston is bringing some heat this year, they deserve it more than porsche.
Aston Martin would have no chance against a new hypercar from Porsche.
@@Raptile07 Doesn't matter, I'd take the Aston over any Porsche anyday. I don't think I'm alone.
@@Craftyboy89 You definitely belong to a minority, because the majority would definitely take the Porsche.
Anyone who can afford such a hypercar would simply buy both cars.
@@Raptile07nah electric is lame nobody wants it. Aston is way better in every way. Prob why Porsche is smart enough to not make it. Such a let down
No they don’t. They’re leagues ahead of whatever this “holy trinity” has at the moment. In fact it’d be an insult to put them amongst these relatively mere mortals
Porsche missed the boat. Mclaren and Ferrari released their cars within 1 week . Porsche can’t just take more time to make a car which is obviously gonna be better than the 2 because they would have the time to see what the others did and improve on it. Aston Martin deserves the spot. They release the Valhalla a month after the W1 & F80. It’s a fair amount of time.
That’s the whole point of the holy trinity. That’s how the P1, 918 & LA Ferrari did it.
No one had extra time to make a better car
Dear Porsche, put an engine in it and actually make it.
Dear Ferrari, put a v12 in it and make it look good, cuz it doesn't look good now.
Dear McLaren, good job, but make it a bit more.... hypercar. Looks too much like a supercar with an aero kit.
The holy trinity is now McLaren, Ferrari and Aston.
Porsche with a skinned Rimac EV doesn't deserve the spot anymore.
I would say the tourbilon aston valkrye and mclaren
Regulations have killed the ability for these manufacturers to do it again. Smaller companies like Pagani and Gordon Murray are the only ones that are much more interesting now.
Why puting porshe here, aston is the 3rd of the trinity now
Not the new aston? And bringing the concept that is the Porsche?
Holy shit top gear keeps going down.
That thing is competitor to sf90 platform
It’s to match the brands of the old holy trinity
Ferrari LaFerrari
Mclaren P1
Porsche 918
All things being equal the Valkyrie is a much better candidate for a modern “trinity” but I get what they’re going for.
@@john_cullen Pointless when only 2 of those brands have cars this time and the Valkyrie doesn't fit because it was in a different tier and is from a previous era.
Valhalla equal to the sf90xx and the revuelto. Not the f80 and the w1
GET THE STAKES /s
V8>V6>electric
cope kid
At least ferrari build their own engines and v6 have some motorsport heritage unlike mclaren which outsource w1 v8 engine
Womp Womp
@@yusufcanaktas6929why are you so upset?
You probably don't have to worry about choosing between the three so calm down😂
Is this video just a compilation of three videos Ive already watched?
You know... i kinda didn't like the new Ferrari looks. But, its kinda growing on me. It kinda has this old school 90s look to it.
It's growing on me too. It reminisces me of F50 A LOT
Yes, it looks like an old silhouette 90's concept car and the front headlight design is from the 365 Daytona.
@@AdiMercuryIt has more CLK LM vibes.
Bugatti EB110
Unholy Trinity
Not a fan of the video recycling.
This is what you'll always get around Christmas holidays, so no worries.
Agreed
More like Blade Trinity, definitely not Holy.
Aston Martin's contribution would be my choice and I'm disappointed you didn't include it. It's the cheapest here too so it's punching way above its weight!
Personally, I think of the Holy Trinity as the Mclaren W1, Aston Martin Valkyrie, and AMG ONE. The Ferrari looks like a Lego piece. The Porsche looks good, but it doesn't give me 'Holy Trinity' vibes.
Correct holy trinity should be F80, W1, and AMG ONE. Valkyrie is a level above anything else.
F80 has LEGO vibes, and the W1 has HotWheels vibes with those disproportionately small wheels.
Somehow, it’s not the same without cries of “Powwwweerrrrrrr!!” emanating from the cockpit.
Also anyone heard of the Praga Bohema? 720hp and 975kg. 900kg downforce at 250 kmh
To add - this is the basic version. A more hardcore version is possible with more power and downforce if a customer wants it. 800+ hp
Glad you mention Bohema. As Czech, I'm really proud of this car. It's engineering masterpiece.
@@hugotogner168 They have a long history in making race cars and in racing, Radical is another brand they have competed against for years and they had the Nordschleife record for a long time. Praga specialize in making LMP3 style cars with the Praga R1 and in the Bohema case, we can call it LMP2/LMP1 style. I am 100% sure they have a really good product. All these new hypercars are all over 1,400kg and some even as much as 1,800kg. It just doesn´t seem right.
Pragas are race cars mostly.
What... Where's Valhalla??
They all look like works of art. They look like they should be on a pedestal in an art gallery, rather than going around the nurburgring
But still ..V12 is a V12.....
Soul cannot be replaced 😢...
Didn't Porsche cancel the mission x many customers weren't interest
Pretty sure they’re not even making it anymore this video old and they released it late
Good work to the Top Gear-Team, I enjoyed this video.
I'd argue if Ferrari McLaren and Porsche deserve the new Holy Trinity when it's about hypercar territory. Aston Martin, Rimac, Bugatti & Koenigsegg are building far more HYPER hypercars than these three at the moment. Jesko Absolut, Valhala/Valkyrie and Nevera can destroy these cars anywhere and everywhere, so maybe it's their time now.
Out of all the cars that you have mentioned, only Valkyrie would beat them on track. It's barely driveable on track, though.
I love the colour of the interior
The random orange vs the black
Kinda jumped the gun with the Holy Trinity there
Valkyrie would have been more fitting
Valkyrie is a level above. Valhalla is a level below.
The aston martin Valhalla is the 3rd member of this version of the holy trinity... At this point, Porsche is probably not going to go through with the Mission X
Exactly my thought 🤨
Oh how sad.
The OG trinity will never be topped.
My holy trinity is still the cgt, enzo and slr. But i get your point
Really? I bet these cars drive worlds better than those. The P1 looks like a handful and entirely unenjoyable on public roads. The laferrari is aerodynamically unstable as the need for the fxxk. The only objective good one was the 918
@@supermanblackeditionI bet you’re a BLAST at parties. 🙄
I was not a big fan of how the new hyper Ferrari looks, but that Porsche looks even worst in my opinion.
these wont be remembered as the sane breath as the original trinity
that Ferrari looks like a mix of Lamborghini and Ferrari and it looks sick
The F80 has really grown on me. Yeah, v6. But Its what the race cars use. Cant ignore that
The Ferrari is my pick they took the best engine they have and put in there the smaller engine allows for better aerodynamics, you won't be able to hear your car as your passing a valkarie.
Ferrari said you want insane here you go
And made a proper improvement when it comes to downforce levels.
With the choices available, I’d choose a Bugatti TourBillion or a Koenigsegg Jesko or CC850, they are better than the rest and are at the top of the charts. Or a Rimac as they are silly fun.
Only Jesko can match F80 and W1 performance on track.
@ true the Bugatti would be the champion on the roads for most real driving, also I think the Jesko is probably a bit faster on most tracks.
Too many 1000 hp cars to have a holy trinity.
That Aston is drop dead sexy.
Absolutely
I don't think Ferrari can make gorgeous cars anymore
Why keep it trinity? Add the Aston, add the Nivera...what else?
F80 IS THE KING
If the Mission X is anything like it is in Gran Turismo I would be EXTREMELY concerned
Never clicked faster
Imagine how fast you’ll click when the drag race happens next year 😂
@ lolllll trueeee
Valhalla would have been much more interesting than a nonexistent Porsche
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This is really a downgrade going from LaFerrari and LaFerrari FXX Evo with v12 engines and beautifully designed to F80 with v6 engine and looked ugly 😒
I think Porsche recently said hybrid is the way to go. Perhaps the new 4.6L TT in the 963 lmdh. It is basically the 918 spyder engine with 2 turbos on it.
Add the Valkyrie and call it a Holy Quadrinity. It's got the same ring to it, yes?
meanwhile the Rimac Nevera R is going to smoke any of those puny supercars.
Other than maybe the MissionX, if they should ever make it
Nevera has no chance on track.
F50 was pig ugly! The F40 was race car awkward. The 288GTO was the best looking of the lot. This latest supercar looks special to me and will grow on people like the previous super Ferraris.
The f80 is soo nice, love it❤
This is first time in my life when Aston Martin did a better job than the big three and made a much more interesting car. I would much rather have Valkyrie than any of those atrocities.
All electric mission x is not happening. Valhalla has nothing to do with w1 or F80
Idc what people say, the F80 is gorgeous.
But low-key the Ferrari looks stunning especially for back ❤
I actually like the f80 and I think it could sound good. Pipes on a 296 don’t sound bad in person. Hate me all you want.
The Ferrari looks amazing.
the selection of Ferrari, McLaren and Porsche to be the Holy Trinity is arbitrary. Historical selection is not a good criteria.
What about Bugatti Bolide and Aston Martin Valhalla?
Bolide isn't a road-legal car. Valhalla is closer to SF90 Stradale in terms of performance.
@jansedlak8505 it is true about the Bugatti it is not a street legal car although it could be if they wanted to. For the performance of the Valhalla we still do not know much only we can assume. There is also Aston Martin Valkyrie which is a street legal car.
@@stealth1379 According to the configurator, you cannot even order Valhalla with Cup 2Rs. Valkyrie is a level above them.
Unholy Trinity > Holy Trinity
Pls bring topgear back
I couldn't bring my self to finishing this video that's how I respect the old holy trinity
Still I would have put the more interesting and real Valhalla here and a Koenigsegg maybe Murray?
I don't know about the T50 (or whatever it's final name was/is), as Murray came out and stated it wasn't at all about being a mega-super-hypercar, and I don't think it is. It's probably 10x a better car than any of the ones listed, but won't win you over on internet power points.
Ferrari is brutal!
i say we have a 4 way tie for the f1 derived hypercars: the p80, amg one, valkryie/ valhalla, and the w1
Why not the Aston😒
this is not the trinity. porsche haven’t even shown their halo hybrid yet. you’re TOP GEAR for god’s sake
We need to add the Valkyrie 😎
Holy Trinity to Virtue Signaling Barber's Quartet
CHICKEN SANDWICH
It's too bad the Porsche looks the best but has the most boring power train. The F80's engine is almost as uninspiring but the looks are growing on me. The McLaren is just as focused and ugly as most other cars they make.
The Ferrari looks like a Lego car
McLaren looks like a "HotWheels" car.
Should be named 'The Ferrari Bandit'
I think it's just the Dynamic Duo
The Holy Trinity used to be about cars someone drove (not proto)
Not including the Aston is silly. This "holy trinity" is old.
Each car is a successor to the original holy trinity like the W1 is the success to the P1 etc but porsche haven't confirmed that the mission x is the 918 spyder successor, And they still haven't announced the successor of the 918.
The fact that no one here commenting could’ve watched the whole vid (3 mins ago uploaded)
9:55 agree to disagree! The W1 is probably the best looking of this supposed Holy Trinity with Ferrari looking like a specially abled kid designed it!
Should be holy quattro.
Mercedes AMG one, Aston Valkyrie, McCheese, Ferrari Lego.
Those 4 should be in same hyper hybrid high performance segment on track and could be driven directly for road trip.
The Protsch would be left behind because of charging.
Valkyrie is a level above those 3.
My holy trinity would be the McLaren W1, Ferrari F80 and the Aston Martin Valhalla in this order.
From what I understand, Porsche isn't going to make an electric hypercar. They gauged interest from potential customers on the mission x unveiling and it wasn't up to their expectation. For the time being, I think we have to get the Aston Martin into the holy trinity.
Should’ve picked either of the Aston hyper cars
The three aren't in the crew motorfest😢
Very cool…I’ll have the Valhalla
“F80’s beauty is in its truth” is kinda like “she has a nice personality”.
The Mission X should not be apart of the trinity because it's fully electric where as the other 2 are hybrids. All cars need to be on the same playing field.
The McLaren looks like a Senna, the Porsche looks like an Utopia, and the Ferrari just looks like shit
La ferari will be their all time delicious hypercar
patiently waiting for porsches entry
I heard there was a new car with a 0.13 CD, what do you know about it?
I actually like the F80. It’s so unapologetically brutal. Really curious about lap times.
Love the Ferrari F80!!
why is everyone ignoring the mercedes AMG one??
Because it can't stay running long enough to test and hasn't met any if the benchmarks Mercedes said it would.
If the Mission X is all electric I’m no longer interested in the Holy Trinity.
I am warming up to the pontoon boat-shaped Ferrari, honestly, but the McLaren is amazing. The Aston should be in there though.
I actually really like how the new Ferraris look