A Real Anvil for the Shop: 242 Pound Peter Wright Anvil
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2018
- We finally have a real anvil for the shop in the form of a 242 pound Peter Wright anvil. I am very excited about this as it will really help me in the tool making pursuits I enjoy. The anvil is not perfect and needs a little work but as it is right now it is very usable. This tool will really make blacksmith work much easier. Pretty soon I will have to finish the big coal forge and make our hinges for the barn doors. Hope you folks enjoy this one and I'll see you on the next one.
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Well I just learned more about anvils in 8 minutes than I I'd learned in my whole lifetime. Thanks friend.
Morning Jim,
I used one for fifty years And I still want one now. Brilliant mate.
Congratulations you lucky bugger. I have been casually looking for quite a while now with nary a sniff.
Mike
Anvils have really gone up in price in the past few years. I have a couple nice anvils but nothing as large as the one you have. Nice find. :)
They have gotten nuts in price. I should have done it much sooner.
Very good. Happy for you and a Happy New Year to you and Family
Thank you David, happy New Year.
Very glad you found one finally. I know you have been looking for a long while now.
That is the business, that will out live you as is you want a slight bow in the top like it's got I wouldn't mess with it at all a part from a clean up once you start hitting on it till soon come back to life , get it on a big old stump and give it some beans . Lovely stuff Jim enjoy I know I would ! God bless hope you all had a good one 👍❤️
Hi jim happy for u one step closer enjoy and keep the videos coming thx
An anvil for new years! Permission to get hammered! :-)
Hammer away, happy New Year
@@TheTradesmanChannel Happy New year!
Thanks Dave
I have a small blacksmith shop, its in a cruck frame. The anvil came from an old smith shop here in town, I picked it up 20+ years ago before the rage. I had to weld the edges and its not in fantastic shape but it work. Nice this one has a new home.
Nice. I like cruck frames, those are like art work. Ten years ago I could've gotten this for half the price.
We need photos of this cruck frame.
@@aaronstroud5278 I'll shoot a short video of it.
@@aaronstroud5278 ua-cam.com/video/LDJD4rGMaJM/v-deo.html
Thanks for showing the trap door in use (and the chain hoist). Have a great new year!
You as well.
Morning Jim, nice addition to the shop. Michael
Wow! That’s a beautiful piece of metal. Nice ring too.
Thanks George
Awesome find. Definitely going to be some good projects pounded off that 👍
Great find Jim, I am part of that Forged In Fire crowd. I am interested in making a few blades because of that show. I went out and found some Crane Rail to play with. It's a bit thicker and heavier than train rail. I look forward to seeing what you do with your new anvil...
Jim, we are 8 hrs before the New Year, so, we from HK wish you and your family and all the FB viewers a very happy New Year. Be happy and healthy and all the best.
anything can be fixed. Looking forward to seeing it in action.
Dear Jim,
That's a lot of iron for just one night's viewing. It'll be interesting to see you restoring it to it's former glory. 2019 look likes a good year for you now; bring on the projects thick & fast. Kind regards.
I foresee some saw blade races in the future as well.
@@TheTradesmanChannel Oh wise young Jim, pray do tell, that ought to be mighty interesting. Are you sure you are not using substances ( like an overload of triple roast!!!). Have a wonderful & enriching New Year 2019. This is the new era for you that I was talking about, it's a coming dear boy. Kind regards.
Quadruple roast my friend, triple roast is for the weak.
@@TheTradesmanChannel
Crums Jim, are you telling me as a barn war veteran you need to upgrade for the meanest, toughest, strongest, take no prisoners kind of brew??? At this rate there is the distinct possibility of side effects such as Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde syndrome!!! What have you got in store for us mere mortals this year??? ( something monstrous???) I reckon we going to see some spectacular work in one form or another with or without blades. I better get prepared for a shock then. Kind regards.
Bonsoir Monsieur Jim . Je vous souhaite a vous et a toutes votre Famille de bonne fétes de fin d'année . Merci pour toutes les Vidéos que vous avait mie en ligne que j'ai eut le plaisir de regarder de mon petit village de France
Thank you William.
She is a beaut Jim! Sure beats the heck out of my Grizzly pot metal special.
HAPPY NEW YEAR when it arrives ! To you and your family Jim ! LANG MAY YER LUM REEK ! 🏴🥃🏴🥃
Thank you Jamie. I spent it smelling sawdust, it was great.
That is a fully functional Anvil Jim. Make sure you pre-heat with a good Rosebud before welding. A friend of mine in the California Blacksmith Assoc. has repaired many Anvils with similar defects. I'll see if I can get some information for you on what type of welding rod he uses and any procedures that might help. It can be restored to like condition. Score!
Thanks Tim. I figured for that price and size I couldn't go wrong.
+TheTradesmanChannel hey Jim the damage is more than likely from drawing out stock as opposed to using the horn, i would simply use what in Australia we call weldall rods or stainless steel rods, make sure you preheat as already suggested and just do a little bit at a time, you want to keep the higher temps localised, weldall electrodes are commonly used in the repair of dies, also dont fuss about trying to build that edge back all the way i would keep the radius and just continue to use that area for drawing out stock
Happy New Year.
Same to you.
Jim, Happy New Year. That certainly is a great find. Want to see what you will use for the stand. A hefty chunk of hardwood log. All the best my friend and the same for Mary and the kids.
Thanks Tom.
Bit of a ball buster that one, hope you do some videos on the re-instatement, happy of the new year.
You know I will. Now that the frame is on a fast road to being finished we'll be getting into some really good content.
Morning Jim.... Nice! Us old guys aren't too bad to deal with!
I guess not. I wasn't too happy when he almost changed his mind.
I'd like to see how you go about making those repairs some day. Nice find!
I will run the camera for sure on that one.
nice find. I remember My Dad wanted an anvil back in the mid 50's never found one he could afford any way.
Well sir, Happy New Years. I see a set of hinges in the near future coming of that anvil,I now next year! All the best
Thank you. Hope you brought in the new year in style.
Yep, that anvil should serve the purpose! A little time and a few melted rods and it'll be fine.
Looks like it is just fine Jim.
$1.75 per pound for that anvil is a great price. It can be fixed. It's a good size for what you're doing. Typically, anvils are going for around $4 to $5 per pound, at least in my area.
love it
I'll have to check mine tomorrow and see what markings are on the side!
A Happy New Year from Edinburgh Jim & Mrs Jim and Bairns Lang Mae Yer Lum Reek
Thank you Charlie, thank you for all of your support and comments. It truly means a lot to me.
And I thank you for your entertaining videos if I was thirty years younger I would love to have a go at timber framing I wish you a very prosperous New Year stay fit and healthy mate
Viewed & liked!!!!
Thank you, you must be playing catch up.
@@TheTradesmanChannel - Jim I'm trying to watch 2 a day but I'm also playing catch up on *Out of the Woods*
I got a good deal on a 190# Vulcan anvil , about the same wear as yours....paid 150 dollars for it....a friend of mine at work was using it as a plant stand on his front porch ...I'm happy with it , cuz your right , they are hard to find.....Vulcan anvils were forged in Illinois back in the day ....
That is a great deal.
Awesome
Nice 👍. It’s repairable
Yes it is.
@@TheTradesmanChannel I know I am getting a little ahead of the plans. BUT can you go over the steps you would like to do any why?
Sort of a white board type of description of the needed work and how it's done.
Please.
.... C L A N G... round 1 begins lol... I happened to be listening to a Tedeschi Trucks Band video right before this... so that's why i'm happy, so don't foul that up please ( like ya could ; )... proceed with care ... But, ya sure started with a great find.. Congratz !! Tell the ol'geezer you'll piss in his cornflakes ( while grinning of course ) & keep him smiling, he won't go back on his word i don't care how old he is ; )... so Thanks for the video & i'll see ya down the road, count on it ; )
Get some tool grade stick weld sticks and fill those holes and valleys, a "little" grinding and your set....
You will take good care of that piece of history, it found a good hone
Thank you.
Good night Jim. Do not use it as a pillow..... I'm actually curious about how you will repair it. Shop is taking shape!
The repairs will be interesting indeed.
That's great, Jim! Sure glad the guy came back around about selling to you. Is it possible to fill in and re-machine the part that's all boogered up? Or not so much being on top of cast iron? I know squat about metal work. Happy New Year to you, Mary and the kids.
Here where I live they want 5.00 a pound. I just am not paying that. There is alot in the Detroit area but they are expensive. You got a deal. God bless collectors hoarding these anvils so it's going to be hard to find a gem. Also hoarding bench vises which I have many.Detroit is great for old iron lathes milling machines boring mills. Hidden wonders in old family factories. Still here.
Flattening out a bar is best done on a surface with a deprssion in it. Steel works by bending itbpast flat so springback is allowed for. My Trenton is like waves on the ocean. Works fine.
Nice anvil. Nice timberframe building. Hot steel... Lots of heat and sparks. I have always done my metalworking in a metal building, well separated from the workshop where I do woodworking. When you get it set up and start using it, please be very careful about the fire hazard.
Thank you. I have started setting up my smithy on the first floor where the floor is concrete and have been putting metal on the walls. After all of this work I hate the thought of this place burning to the ground.
I've got two small ones one nice, one cheap junk one. But neither one is anywhere near as big as this guy! Nice history on it as well!
Good morning Mike.
Morning Jim. I was wondering why you brought it up to the wood shop area, then you told us. "Put it off until I get the time" has killed more projects than natural disasters. But I'll try to be patient. Please preheat the anvil before striking the repair welds, and then reharden the top when the primary grinding is done. Oh, boy, a real beating surface for hot steel, can't wait to see it in action with you. Congrats on $1.75/# when the average (in this condition) is approximately $6.00/# right now. Great find. I'm so jealous.
It'll be used before I do any real work to it. I brought up to the second floor to build the stand for it.
@@TheTradesmanChannel yeah, that's why I said "then you told us". Are you going to do a video on the anvil stand and on making the hinges? I'll be watching. Be careful and use lifts or get help with moving that Wright beast.
I just picked one up for 1.00 a lb 400 lbs same thing but the guy was 101 years old changed his mind about selling it he said he had some projects for it then one of his kids called about a week later and said he felt bad about me driving all that way 2hrs so he delivered to my house for 1 buck a pound
You got a great deal. That is massive.
Prof it is useable and better than nothing, crack on
i have 3 that size and 2 that are 60Lbs and 1 thats 3 feet long and 700Lbs iv collected over the years in free barn finds and widows old shed clean outs all in great shape, i will have to do a video for you on all of them, if i can get them out of the corner, last i seen the big one was half sunk in the ground
please do the video.....I would love to see them!!!!!
@@shopdoc i sure will.. sub so you know when things are up
As promised and delivered, you have a piece of history and will get lots of use out of it. Overtime you will refurbish it the proper way because you do it right or not at all. I do not understand the thumbs down Jim all you did was talk, some people are just miserable pieces of sh#t who have nothing better then to be miserable haters and bring the world down the toilet with them. Keep up the great videos, and thanks for yoy channel.
Couple of passes with welder and it’ll look brand new Jim did you get the elm up the same way as the anvil 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I have to ask, why didn't you build one of those beams that stick out of the hayloft on old barns that has a hoist hanging from it so you could lift stuff up from the outside. They even have them on houses in Holland so residents can get there Chesterfield up to the apartment because they can't use the stairs. It would seem like a must-have in the hayloft design. You know what I'm talking about right? I've had this on my mind for weeks and finally on the last day of the year I spring it on you. Oh yea, wishing you and yours many, many good things. Happy New Year James.
I didn't do it mostly because I didn't want the extra penetration through the wall, not that that would've hurt too much. I figured the trap door would do the same thing for me.
I don't know the first thing about restoring anvils, but can they be machined back to flat?
Lol I just got one from my grandpa and it is in a little better shape
And very true on them not letting them go
It's funny but I guess we will be the same way. I ended up repairing this anvil, it came out really well.
Same here still had the belly on the face plate and my hardy hole is in pretty bad condition
Made in England. Dudley 10 miles from my home. Enjoy it.
Nice, thank you.
With all the research you do and with all the specialized fora you inhabit, I'm sure I don't need to point out Essential Craftsman (and his friend, Cy Swan) as resources worth exploring viz a vis anvils. Even AvE has done an anvil post or two.
The Essential Craftsman is very good. You ought to check out Old Sneelock as well
i have one a bit smaller than that find. I think mine is a female, maybe we can mate them. If so bring yours to indiana but you will need to leave it for awhile they move slower than snails.
Oh sure, anvil love he says.
So how much is 1/2 " thick tool steel going for now days?
Nothing wrong with that anvil jim....a very good price at 1.75 a pound
I can't find a good one and you have a lead on two more. nice find now you just need a real blacksmith hammer.
I have a few hammers...I do have some proper steel for making a couple though.
Hammers are fun to make by hand I do them from 4140, and I use 4140 to make my punch and drifts. But 1045 is also a good steal to use for them.
What is the received wisdom on supporting a pounding surface? Not for blacksmithing, just for leatherworking. For instance, if I wanted to hammer inside a van, would that work, or would the vehicle suspension make that a non-starter?
For leather work I would think a van would be just fine.
Remember for striking the most important thing is to be rigidly attached to something heavy. It's the inelasticity (hardness) and inertia of your striking surface that ensures that the power put into the strike ends up in the work. For your purpose, find something relatively heavy to firmly attach the anvil to and you will be fine.
Ah, @@boooshes thank you. I was never a great one for basic observational physics: I always want to understand deeper concepts which made me a very bad student! Is it to do with inertia relative to gravity, rather than somehow the physical connection to the earth? I have often wondered, for instance why soil can work as a place to rest say an axing chopping block, when soil is so soft. yet put a chunky log on it, and you get a great axe block. So it is hardness & inertia, rather than purely connection to ... the bedrock? That would explain why Jim could put an anvil on the upper floor of his barn, which mystified me.
@@nigelwylie01 first, Jim simply took the anvil upstairs to the wood shop to construct the wooden base for it. He is transferring it back down to use it. With regard to inertia, suffice it to say that as a general rule, the more inertia and the less elasticity, the better. The heavier the striking and the longer the impulse of the blow, the more inertia (mass) you want to react the force. So for heavy work having a massive anvil directly connected to a massive concrete floor is a nice way to go. Many times that isn't practical or necessary. Remember that the softer the material, the more time the force is being applied and the longer the force has to be dissipated. Therefore, the further it will travel. The extreme example is a constant force like the weight of a building which requires not inertia to support it, but a constant force of opposition provided by the foundation and soil (which is relatively soft compared to an anvil). An extremely fast application of force is resisted by the inertia of the struck surface body - it is a collision where the applied energy from the hammer gets translated into 1. Return velocity of the hammer mass, 2. Energy absorbed in the soft metal (or leather) being struck, 3. Velocity of the anvil mass 4. Energy absorbed in the connection of the anvil to its base, 5. Velocity of the base mass, etc., 6. Other losses that become heat due to the collisions. The objective is to get as much energy delivered to the struck object as possible. Since energy is related as a square function of velocity and a direct function of mass, more mass of everything not being struck is better. Also, harder and more rigid means less absorbed energy in the collisions.
How many anvils will you end up with and why so many?
Anvils are a good investment, if you can get a couple for a good price you can double your money. Of course I have a lot of junk kicking around for some reason.
Why are you putting the anvil on the second floor in't that wood working floor?
Hello Gary. I put it up there for better lighting for the video and to make a stand. Then in gets lowered back down to the first floor.
mine is about 2/3 that size.same damage. bought 2 30yrs ago. lm 76 you can buy mine in 5 yrs
Five years? I hope your not putting an expiration date on yourself.
@@TheTradesmanChannel play cards u are dealt. but you gotta come get em. hee hee going to send pic of my shop, aerial one day.
You stole that! Lucky bastard! I'm happy for you, but jealous as hell. Everything I see out west is 6-8$ a lb. -Will
Same thing I run into here.