2013-2019 Ford Fusion Hybrid Inverter (SOBDMC/TCM)

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  • @ronaldallen4917
    @ronaldallen4917 2 роки тому +4

    As the Ford buyer who manages the purchase of this exact inverter, I can say this is the best non-Ford video breakdown I have viewed on any inverter. Great job!

  • @sfbfriend
    @sfbfriend 3 роки тому +1

    I worked for an engineering firm for 22 years and built power applications for an experimental all wheel electric drive vehicle for FMC which was being used for the military. We used large IGBT's, however we had sill pads which insulated and had the white heat sink grease already applied to the pad. We always called our phases A,B and C which is common throughout the aerospace industry. Once thing I dont like about the automotive designed aluminum cases is the lack of helicoil locking inserts for the screws. Our traction drive motors, one at each wheel were 1000 HP each. Were wound with square wire and were of a wet motor design. These are excellent video's that you do, thank you I am subscribing, your explanations are clear and excellent.. Most of our designs were 3 phase AC fans and pumps for civilian and military applications.

  • @dj4ever27
    @dj4ever27 6 років тому +7

    Am a hybrid technician in New York since 2007 and always looking for more information as usual always learn something new ..and this video is a really good stuff thank you professor for sharing your technical knowledge..***** 👍🙏🙏

  • @AlanDennis1947
    @AlanDennis1947 5 років тому +1

    Thank you Professor Kelley for sharing your knowledge about this technology. I have been a hybrid owner for the past four years and now have stepped up to a hybrid plugin, Prius to Fusion. You have made me even more comfortable with this impressive technology. I am a loyal follower. Thank you again sir!

  • @alphawoolf5981
    @alphawoolf5981 6 років тому +5

    I would recommend your videos to anyone wanting a better understanding of how things (in this case hybrids) work. Very good.

  • @corski67
    @corski67 4 роки тому +1

    I've owned 5 different Ford Hybrids, starting with the original 2005 Escape which my son still drives with 280K on it. Thank you for the excellent video series on the eCVT and control modules! I've always wondered what the design looks like compared to the Prius. These transaxles are so reliable it's amazing and now I know why. You've earned another subscriber in me. I will be spending much time learning from your excellent work. :-)

  • @hugh3323
    @hugh3323 4 роки тому

    You are very up on this newer technology. By watching your videos I'm scared to death my 19 year old grandson bought a 2014 ford hybrid :(

  • @colindavis5619
    @colindavis5619 7 років тому +4

    Thank you professor, your videos are an inspiration. I was surprised to learn that the reactor module can reduce, (buck) voltage as well as boost it. Thank you.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +1

      Yes, a cool way to increase power for driving and reduce power for charging the battery. Thank you!

  • @TR19
    @TR19 3 роки тому +4

    You are like the Chuck Norris of electric vehicles.

  • @pauldusablon2073
    @pauldusablon2073 7 років тому +1

    good info. I am independent mechanical inspector and am always learning.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! I also am learning new stuff every day. I fall behind quickly if I do not keep up on my training, exploration, and research. Have a good day!

  • @carlosfranchi5043
    @carlosfranchi5043 2 роки тому

    Lots of everything but still a very nice classes thanks sir

  • @8953147
    @8953147 7 років тому +2

    Many parts inside. Sure Ebay or Amazon may sell the parts needed, hopefully! Amazing how close those electronic parts are to each other-lots of shielding inside.

  • @manuelpatron3119
    @manuelpatron3119 5 років тому

    The mating cable to the white connector at 30:00 is where the Midtronics external battery charger connects to the HV battery (this may have been mentioned in a previous comment somewhere).

  • @hishamalhusari7281
    @hishamalhusari7281 4 роки тому

    Thank you professor, your videos are an inspiration

  • @djklos602
    @djklos602 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for great information! I watch your videos all the time. You are awesome sir. Thank you again.

  • @NES50
    @NES50 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for your job. You are doing great things)

  • @killsoundpro
    @killsoundpro 5 років тому +2

    Спасибо, просто супер видео !!!!

  • @sfbfriend
    @sfbfriend 3 роки тому

    It appears to be an insulator between the computer board and that aluminum cover underneath. The computer board Im sure is conformal coated but you can have thin spots where moisture could cause issues being that the computer board is close to that aluminum cover.

  • @spwjones4797
    @spwjones4797 2 роки тому

    This is a great educational tool good job. I only wish there was reference to where the cooling vents in the car are and if there is cleaning maintenance do, such a c-max energi air intake in the right rear wheel well where a screen gets plugged and causes over heating of HV battery. This added info would be great.

  • @beforebefore
    @beforebefore Рік тому

    A note about the "reactor" (which is really just a large inductor, which uses external transistors and diodes to complete the DC-DC boost/buck circuit).
    The reason for stepping the inverter DC bus voltage up - is for higher motor/vehicle speeds. At low speeds the motor needs high current, but not much voltage... but as the motor RPM increases, so does the motor BEMF (Back Electro-Motive Force), which effectively cancels out the drive voltage "head-room"... so it cannot continue to turn faster.
    So without increasing the drive voltage, the motor speed (and therefore the vehicle speed) would stop increasing above maybe 40 MPH. By increasing the inverter bus voltage, you now have more voltage headroom, allowing higher RPMs before the BEMF stops us again, and can still acellerate the vehicle.
    Typically the Toyota boosts the bus voltage from 288V DC up to a maximum of about 650V DC for maximum speeds. The boost voltage is only pushed up high enough for the required speed, because it is "Power Limited". If the Boost circuit is limited to 20kW, and if it's only boosting to say 350V DC for 50MPH (where you still need some torque), it can produce 57 Amps. As the vehicle speed increases and we need the full 650V DC, the boost inverter can only produce 30 Amps DC. This tracks the requirement of the drive motor in lock-step.
    At high RPM, the motor doesn't produce a lot of torque, so the DC boost circuit doesn't need to be huge.
    This is one of the aspects of the original Toyota hybrid design that really captivated me as an old EE, and is one. reason why I ended up with a 2008 Highlander Hybrid... which now has very close to 300,000 miles on it, with amazing reliability.

  • @santino_xt
    @santino_xt 9 місяців тому

    Great job!

  • @6orik
    @6orik 3 роки тому +2

    Hi. I liked this video. Thank you very much professor.I have ford fusion hybrid 2014.The coolant is low in my inverter system. Which coolant I must add? Concentrated or prediluted ?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Always use premixed coolant. Thanks for watching

    • @6orik
      @6orik 3 роки тому

      Ford doesn't produce orange coolant now. they stopped. They changed it to yellow. Can I mix orange with yellow for engine and inverter coolant?Thanks

  • @nathanrobison3160
    @nathanrobison3160 3 роки тому +1

    Do you guys know common place for them to leak and consume fluid? Mine emptied the expansion tank in about 1200 miles, no visible leaks that can be found

  • @dariuszpiotrowski9489
    @dariuszpiotrowski9489 Рік тому

    Thank a million. Good lesson. Can someone explain to me what the hole on the bottom of the inverter (yellow wet sticker) is for?

  • @richardjones5480
    @richardjones5480 5 років тому +1

    Hello. I have a 2013 Ford C-Max Energi with the inverter module shown in your video. How do I drain the inverter coolant? It appears that I will have to remove either the inlet or outlet hose.

  • @hadherramadhanmohammed3699
    @hadherramadhanmohammed3699 2 роки тому

    great great man thank you prof.

  • @Techn0man1ac
    @Techn0man1ac 3 роки тому +1

    Я люблю электромобили, интересно, а реально ли попасть к этому профессору Джон Келли в Америку?
    Смотреть одно дело, а пощупать всё это в живую, прочувствовать саму суть электромобилей - совсем другое.

  • @theamazoner4075
    @theamazoner4075 4 роки тому +1

    In the Energi model of this veichel isn't there an electronic resistive element heater, where would the terminals be?

  • @johnpappas2060
    @johnpappas2060 3 роки тому +2

    Bless The hybrid videos are awesome since at our monastery we own a 2016 Fusion Hybrid. Unless I’ve missed it, how do you drain & flush the inverter? Thanks Fr. John

  • @Martinsp16
    @Martinsp16 7 років тому +1

    100th like! Great content. Thank you Professor Kelly.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @LarryCook1960
    @LarryCook1960 Рік тому

    I'm curious. Are the smoothing and/or filter capacitors of the electrolytic type? Once upon a time, they would need to be electrolytic to obtain the capacitances mentioned, but they had a definite lifespan. Perhaps there's something better these days.

  • @billycroan2336
    @billycroan2336 Рік тому

    Do you have a video on the hvb and it's charging circuitry? I'm curious what it would take to find a 7200w charger from a different car and hack it in place of my 3600w charger to fill up faster.

  • @16vjohnny
    @16vjohnny 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent videos Prof. Kelly. I enjoy watching your videos even though I'm only about an hour away from the Weber campus. Hopefully my kids can attend there some day. On a more technical note, I'm curious if you can answer a question about my 2013 Fusion Energi. When in EV mode, accelerating or decelerating, you can hear a distinct sound coming from the engine bay. It's definitely not gear noise and sounds electrical in nature, perhaps similar to water running through pipes in the house. You can make it louder or softer depending on how far you press the accelerator pedal.
    The only thing I can think is that it might be the capacitors.
    To be clear, it's not an issue. In fact, I've had multiple Fusions that do it. I'm more just curious.
    Cheers, and keep up the great work.

  • @crushsmith7534
    @crushsmith7534 2 роки тому

    wish all of youtube was like this.... did you ever try this inverter to see if it still worked after it was full of water?

  • @bubbasue317
    @bubbasue317 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much professor for making these videos! I have been searching for info on my 2019 Ford Fusion Energy. Several weeks ago I unplugged my Fusion to drive to work. It was pre-cooling the car on a hot summer day per my scheduled warmup/cooldown settings. Since then the Fusion always thinks the power cord is plugged in. I have to do a little on/off with the start button & then select a menu question about if the car is plugged in. My dealer thinks it’s the charge plug in connection but I doubt that as I believe it’s only a dumb plug in connection. Any ideas from you or others would be appreciated! I’m an industrial electrician so I would love to fix this and learn at the same time. Thanks!

  • @davidbarthel9976
    @davidbarthel9976 4 роки тому

    What is the longevity of the electric motors in both the 2.0 Fusion and MKZ hybrid. The MKZ does not have an alternator . Why does the Fusion Hybrid have one?

  • @mattjones1301
    @mattjones1301 3 роки тому

    Once the fasteners are removed, how did you open the coolant channel? Did you apply heat or wedge?

  • @fvresonanator
    @fvresonanator 2 роки тому

    Hi withe the system de-energised (service disconnect removed) and HV presence measured absent as the HV battery connector to inverter module, can you tell me why my 2-pole tester still buzzes with a resistance value? Is this due to some capacitance in the battery?

  • @kalebryan1133
    @kalebryan1133 6 років тому +1

    Is there a way to modify a hybrid, with a solar panel roof. Possibly running through the brake charging system.
    Or into in the inverter

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому

      I don’t think so

    • @kalebryan1133
      @kalebryan1133 6 років тому

      @@WeberAuto I know they had a prototype, with solar. Granted my only thought would likely just be a full charge when I leave in the afternoon. I park outside.
      Make when it's time to junk it, I'll mess around with it.

  • @OregonCoastVideo
    @OregonCoastVideo 7 років тому +1

    nice work!

  • @Ferretack
    @Ferretack 7 років тому +2

    These are really well made, do you use these videos as aides for your classes? Cool stuff!

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +1

      Yes, these videos are used in some of my advanced vehicle systems classes. There are questions, discussions, and quizzes as well as hands-on exercises are part of some of the classes. There are also some of my online classes through the university where these videos are used. Thank you!

  • @callmenos6271
    @callmenos6271 2 роки тому

    Just started watching this vid. This looks like a good page to ask my question! Is there a way to convert a 2013 ford fusion hybrid into a plug-in? It would be nice to have the ability to charge it at home sometimes without using gas to drive it and recharge it. Thanks!

  • @teveongolston1615
    @teveongolston1615 9 місяців тому

    I have a 2013 ford fusion hybrid and there's the problems I'm having and would appreciate your help.
    One morning I started my car and that red waring triangle showed on the dash. I turned the car off, started it back up and it drove normal but i did feel a few minor jerks. The next day as I being to drive the jerks had got worst and I could not accelerate over 10 mph without the car shaking and vibrating like crazy. I got it towed a shop but the weird part is that I drove it from the shop I initially got it towed to, to two different shop and back home in it drove normal with no jerks nor shaking. But the DTC codes that all three auto repair shop gave me including the Ford Dealer were P0A2A, P0A78 and P0A90.
    P0A2A Drive Motor A Temperature Senor A Circuit
    P0A78 Drive Motor A Inverter Performance
    P0A90 Drive Motor A Performance
    Would highly appreciate your response.
    Thank you.

  • @timowolff1105
    @timowolff1105 6 років тому +1

    Very very informative and professional video. Great!! I got some questions and maybe you got some answers. So there‘s the intelligent Power Module. In an electric vehicle traction inverter I Think there is a reference and carrier signal to generate an sinusoidal Pwm. Are they generated with this intelligent Power Module or with the Generator Motor Control Computer? Or how are they generated generally? Analog or digital today? And do you know, if the position sensor of the throttle Pedal is controlling the amplitude if the of the reference and carrier signal or how can I control the amplitude of the sinusoidal pwm information which is then given to the gate Drivers of the Igbt Modules. And in an inverter in 2018 they don‘t use analog curcuits do they?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому

      Thank you. I believe the IPM generates the signal for the MCC to use. I am sure they are all digital. I do not know who the throttle pedal input is used, but it seems logical that it would e used for frequency and amplitude (PWM) control.

  • @narjolprado3223
    @narjolprado3223 6 років тому +1

    Great educational video I'm learning about batteries so if you don't mind I have a question for you learning about batteries because I am charging my house and I have 12 truck batteries with an inverter I have solar panels but they're not cutting it for me so I have two little chargers at 15 amps constantly working charging batteries and every half an hour a big battery charger with 40 amps kicks on and off every 30 minutes when I get home from work I disconnect the car battery then when I go to work I can make that again and has been working fine I have 19 Outlets working off the inverter so my question is if I was to get one of those hybrid batteries is it possible to connect to the system that I want to been doing

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому

      These batteries are high voltage 300-400V. You would need to split them up into lower voltage sections.

  • @andyweaver5432
    @andyweaver5432 4 роки тому

    If I pull the orange safety plug on the battery is it safe to remove the TCM without gloves, or do I still need them? I need to change the transmission mount housing, and have to remove the TCM to do it.

    • @andyweaver5432
      @andyweaver5432 4 роки тому

      I'm watching these videos and learning a ton, and exactly what it looks like which is fantastic. What I really want to know in the short term, if I pull the orange safety plug, is there still electricity up front? Or am I safe to move the TCM aside with regular tools?

  • @Ant-mj9wf
    @Ant-mj9wf 6 років тому +1

    My 2015 Ford fusion Hybrid make a noise when it's idle or when I go on the gas. It kinda sound like gears turning but also like a whirming noise and then cuts off. Ford said it's the transmission, local mechanism said it's the fan and another one said it is the transmission. Do u know what noise am referring to? Thanks

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому +1

      There has been a problem with a countershaft bearing failing. Check with the dealership tor possible warranty repair. Best wishes

    • @Ant-mj9wf
      @Ant-mj9wf 6 років тому

      @@WeberAuto is that in the transmission? I uploaded a small video moments ago. U can listen to the sound.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому +1

      Yes, inside the transmission

    • @Ant-mj9wf
      @Ant-mj9wf 6 років тому +1

      @@WeberAuto gonna relay that'll info to the mechanic tomorrow thanks

    • @16vjohnny
      @16vjohnny 4 роки тому

      Might be too late for this comment, but the gearbox issues seem to be with 2013 to late 2015 hybrids only. There's a TSB and Ford seemed to catch on by 2016. If you had a gearbox fail, they'd install a new one from 2016+ revision. It does not seem to affect the Energi models, possibly due to auxiliary lubrication.
      As another side note, bearing failure would be covered by Ford's hybrid parts warranty which is 8 year, 100,000 miles.

  • @6orik
    @6orik 11 місяців тому

    Hi professor. I have a new problem with my ford fusion hybrid 2014. I changed the transmission filter and fluid in my car and also transmission damper. after that if I want to make full throttle it comes stop safety alert icon suddenly. The computer checks P1920 code. Then I stop the car. Turn off the key and turn on and the stop safety alert goes on.But it is not always repeated.this problem come only in full throttle. Please help me to solve this problem .Thanks

  • @AF6LJSue
    @AF6LJSue 6 років тому +1

    Good Stuff Thank You

  • @donberg01
    @donberg01 7 років тому +2

    What make/model wet sand blaster do you have?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +1

      it is the Aquablast 915 www.vixen.co.uk/aquablast-915.html

  • @jaseralomary8854
    @jaseralomary8854 5 років тому

    you are excellent

  • @sudinebabz8651
    @sudinebabz8651 4 роки тому

    👍🏽 I would have really liked to be one of your students

  • @geojor
    @geojor 7 років тому +1

    thanks for this ...

  • @fazn1880
    @fazn1880 4 роки тому

    I have 2014 ford fusion hybrid high voltage battery is drained from sitting for a year won't start code is showing becm module and sobdmc error the 12v battery is fully charged engine won't start display show ready to drive and a triangle Do I need to charge the high voltage battery externally to run the car now is there a button like the older escape has to boost the high voltage battery from the 12v any help would be appreciated. Thank you

  • @anthonyrstrawbridge
    @anthonyrstrawbridge 3 роки тому

    ♥️

  • @589nm6
    @589nm6 3 роки тому

    Shame they dont sell service parts for the inverter assembly. It looks modular and very easy to service.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  3 роки тому

      Agreed. Thanks for watching!

  • @trains11111
    @trains11111 5 років тому +1

    I built many computers and never had a static charge problem and never used anti static protection. Those compotes are more likely to be damaged by low or over voltage when it is in the car. You can soak computer parts and the will still work after going though that. The damage happens when you put power to it when it is wet. The makers of the computer parts do not care if you use that or not because it is more likely that will not happen. More and more makers are not including the antistatic information on computer parts that are being sold.

  • @vladiklass1890
    @vladiklass1890 5 років тому

    Does anyone know how much the whole inverter module weighs?

  • @lucky6018
    @lucky6018 6 років тому +1

    Sir its a special alternator for lithiom battery

  • @donberg01
    @donberg01 7 років тому +1

    I thought 3 phases were id by A B C?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому

      I have seen reference to the A, B, C phases when they are used on a "Delta Wound" stator (Example is the Saturn EV1 from 1996-1999), but the phases used to drive the "Wye Wound" stators used in later electric vehicles and hybrids are referred to as U, V, W. I do not know if that is a standard practice or not. I need to investigate further. Thanks for your feedback.

  • @staticxr
    @staticxr 7 років тому +1

    Does anyone know the output voltages of the SOBDMC?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому

      The input is 281.2V. There is no boost inverter, so the output voltage will be the same or lower. The input voltages can be higher.

  • @musinclind37
    @musinclind37 6 років тому +1

    Anyone? My 2013 fusion hybrid makes a loud click noise when in electric only whilte stopping and then taking off again. Click noise when brake pressed for stopping, then loud click noise when pressing gas pedal starting out, all this while engine off when battery power permits. Anyone have an idea what it causing this?? Thanks and great vid!

  • @GreaseMonkChronicles
    @GreaseMonkChronicles 10 місяців тому

    Any1 I got a 16 ford fusion hybrid with this code on the SOBDM-C u0151:00-2E lost comm with RCM AND P2533:62-2E Ignition Switch On/Start Position Circuit. Please help, no start or intermittent start

  • @dennisthemenance5433
    @dennisthemenance5433 7 років тому

    So where are the Warnings about the 2016 Hybrids?

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому

      What warnings are you referring to?

  • @jorgevelasquez9955
    @jorgevelasquez9955 Рік тому

    Professor Kelley, Thank you for your great videos. We have a 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid. We just replaced our transmission, 112,000 miles, it was whining. Any idea why this seems to be a common problem with this car?

  • @de-bodgery
    @de-bodgery 9 місяців тому +1

    13:07...this is incorrect. The back diode is NOT for rectification! It is there to absorb that collapsing magnetic field that creates a high voltage spike when an inductor loses power. If what you said was true, then you would have zero control of regen braking and every controller on the planet would support regen. This is all patently wrong!

  • @berdia0305
    @berdia0305 5 років тому

    like!! )

  • @suggesttwo
    @suggesttwo 3 роки тому

    Disconnect battery and discharge capacitors no danger anymore in the SOBDMC/TCM.

  • @markrampersaud
    @markrampersaud 6 років тому

    Where would I start with this code P0A7A:96-AF generator inverter performance. My 2010 fusion stop moving and this is what I have.

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 6 років тому

    Seems very silly, relying on the cableside connector for weather sealing.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  6 років тому

      Thanks for your feedback

    • @agenericaccount3935
      @agenericaccount3935 6 років тому +3

      @@WeberAuto That's feedback for Ford more than anything. Since it's not serviceable (on the record, at least) it would make more sense to pot/seal in the external connections instead of leaving giant gapes in the housing. Only Ford can do brilliant and questionable in one sku 🤣

  • @AntoineWG
    @AntoineWG 10 місяців тому

    PSA: THE SMOOTHING CAPACITORS CAN KILL YOU IF NOT PROPERLY DISCHARGED AND IT WILL HURT THE ENTIRE TIME! NEVER ASSUME THE DISCHARGE RESISTOR CIRCUIT WORKS!!1!

  • @thomaskelly5802
    @thomaskelly5802 7 років тому +1

    engine charges battery through inverter wastes 50% of power transfered in heat so hybrids over hyped.

    • @WeberAuto
      @WeberAuto  7 років тому +5

      Thanks for your feedback. The battery is also charged every time you decelerate. The best fuel economy, and cleanest emissions vehicles on the planet are hybrid electric vehicles. No gasoline or diesel even comes close. That is not over hyped. Join the revolution ;)