Driven- 2018 Ford Expedition Limited 4x4
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Do you have a family to haul and big toys to tug? Maybe you need something like the Ford Expedition. It gets F-150s aluminum skin and room for up to eight passengers. But maybe, just maybe, you don’t need all this capability. Tom Voelk checks out a mid-level Limited model.
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About Tom:
Tom Voelk is an award-winning automotive contributor to The New York Times. His podcast was the first to win an Emmy Award. He also married way out of his league. Now, stop reading this promotional copy bragging about Tom's photography and editing skills and watch a couple episodes. It's much more interesting.
“If you are looking for car-like handling...you should get a car” - excellent quip.
I just don’t get why 95% of automakers put Hard Scratchy plastic down on the doors and around the foot wells. To me makes it makes a car look cheap when it gets scuffed up and it’s inevitable. They used Carpet and Vinyl for Decades why the switch to hard plastic besides COST CUTTING. I think buyers would gladly pay an extra $100 to have carpet or some durable non scratch mateiral down low. That’s my Rant, and Thank you so much Tom for your usual Awesome Review.
Our 99 Grand entire dash & doors were soft touch.. The only problem was after a few years the top of the dash started popping up around the defrost grill... Got to give it to them for trying!
I'm so glad I was not the only one who noticed that, and I drive an Excursion so I know what you mean!
My guess as to why they did this - carmakers pinch pennies and that part of the door isn't a touchpoint like an armrest or a steering wheel. It's only after you live with it for a bit that you see they put cheap stuff down there.
Even my 81 Omni 024 miser had a strip of carpet on the door panel.
maybe for durability. footwells and doors take a beating and probably won't hold up with leather. or maybe its because people dont pay attention to places you cant see lol
Middle to end of the review, you started saying Titanium instead of Platinum ;-)
Thanks for these great reviews!
This thing is an excellent family hauler. We went New york for the Fourth of July (Which is about 3hrs away from Maryland) and rented one of these for the road. Compared to the Tahoe I can easily sit in the third row without a problem as long as it takes. We average about 17mpg which is what the Epa estimates it at so no false data on fuel economy from my experience. The only reason I'd consider the Tahoe over this is because it has a v8 but everything else the Expedition gets my vote.
you act like thats a far drive
Try sitting in the 3rd row of a Tahoe for 3hrs and see if you won't get uncomfortable. Then maybe you'll take back what you said.
Jordan Catcher
The Expedition engine kicks the V8's ass in every way
Im buying one now! Love it. Safe for my family & technology /quality is way above Chevy , GMC , Toyota.
dude if you wanna drive , rent one and return before its break
Tom, I lost track of the number of direct hits but then again, it was a rather large target.
All these knobs, gadgets, buttons that can do all this and all that for you..and I thought my uncle was lazy now 🤣🤣🤣
I‘d never buy this car (we use smaller ones in Switzerland) but Tom‘s review is great as usual. By far the best car reviews world wide in my opinion! 👍🏻👍🏻
We need a heavy duty Expedition Max!
Tom V, you deserve way more subscribers than you have. Your reviews are concise and entertaining. Diamond in the rough I guess...😬👍⭐️
I think Ford made a mistake in not offering a V8 option. At least offer the 5.0 Coyote V8 and I'll bet it would be just as good on gas as the 3.5 EcoBoost V6 WITHOUT the headache of potential turbo lag or even turbocharger failure. Not to mention a bigger engine like a 5.0 or a 6.2 doesn't have to work as hard to generate power/torque.
I've have a 2018 expedition with the 3.5tt. No issues in 100k miles, no turbo lag, and get 23mpg on the highway with 400hp/450tq. That's insane.Turbos were an issue perhaps on earlier models but not later engines. Cam phasers do get replaced under warranty but nothing to do with turbos. The only downside to v6's is the exhaust sound, but since it's a quiet family vehicle, not sure why anyone would want a loud exhaust.
I'd love to see it be all original around 200k like my old 98 Eddie Bauer model with a 5.4 ...the v6 isn't going to hold up as long or well I don't think.. Ford really should offer a V8 since it runs on f150 platform
2019+ Expedition owners as well as some 2019+ Navigator owners love to test me a 2019 Flex owner on the road. They don't know if i can keep up or not and they love how fresh mine looks compared to theirs.
I think we should all just get along as Ford owners but i don't think they like how short it is but can still haul just as much as they can.
I had a Chevy Suburban for 17 years and it was a great truck. But too damn big for nowadays. You really gotta need the interior space more than just once in a while to justify buying these big truck SUVs.
Tom will run out of boat puns for the new Lincoln Nautilus.
5:25 ...a funny optical illusion. It looks like there are a couple of long screws protruding from the rear door panel. Just a bit o' sunshine playing a trick 😄
Watched within 2 seconds of seeing notification for this video. Honestly these car reviews are so well put together I officially have a problem, I'm addicted to Tom's videos. I've watched all of his reviews going back to like late 2016
Normally I'd say compulsive behavior is bad. Normally...
Driven Car Reviews YAY! I’m famous now lol. Jk, really tho I could for sure be worse off. I mean I could be watching the 20 minute long infomercials that seem to be most other car ‘review’ channels. Anyway please keep producing these videos they keep me sane!
Great review! I dont have a need for this but if I did I’d give it a look. The gas mileage may not sound that good but its amazing considering it weighs 6000 lbs and is the size of a house!
I think I am to practical too. These new interiors are great, but for a truck or Expedition that SHOULD be used for towing and offroad journeys, I just don't get them. My 2002 Expedition has seen over 350k miles, thousands offroad and it's been great. I love the Expedition. In every year it has been packaged quite well. This one is a bit soft for me.
Love my 01 expedition with well over 290k miles. It's been very useful, a blast to drive. Load floor is shorter than this new monster and frankly, I prefer the steering column mounted shifter over that hockey puck knob thingy. Cant even consider buying this newer style overpriced greenhouse.
I would love a new Excursion. It's based on the Super Duty pickup.
And the Explorer used to be based on the Ranger architecture. Things change.
Fun fact you get 28 more cubic feet in a Toyota Sienna and that is when compared to the Expedition Max. While I like these big vehicles (I love the Navigator) I just feel compelled to point out for any of those thinking about these for a large family.
SS S fun fact...if you are even remotely comparing this to a damn tasteless minivan, you must be a minivan customer because no one else in their right mind would even think about a sienna compared to a FULL SIZE BOF SUV
dnice pimpin Fun fact a large portion of people who buy this behemoth would be better served with a mini-van. Unless you tow over 3,500lbs a BOF SUV isn't needed (most unibody CUV's can do 5,000lbs depending on model and spec). I have no problem with people buying these or anything else for whatever they want I just like to point out these massive vehicles are less practical if your intention is to move people and cargo.
Some people haul trailers, boats and camp in the mountains and so forth. It's a good vehicle for that. The problem is most of these just schlep around suburbia going to soccer and baseball games.
The Excursion was HUUUUUUGE, Tom.
Another great professional review. Hello from Bothell.
LOVE the new ford front end.
0:34 I m sorry, did he just said it weights 3 TONNES?????
Its not the titanium it's the platinum
Seattle suburbs
My company work vehicle is a 2010 Ford Expedition with 112,000 miles or so, ironically in this similar shade of blue. Tom, how about recommending this Expedition upgrade to the powers that be on my behalf....lol? I'm sure the name Tom Voelk has some clout 🤔
Nice car too!
Nice review! 👍
I like it. I would enjoy having one as a rental on a vacation.
Also, the Excursion was a heavy duty truck. Not a light duty like the Expedition.
Thanks. Tom.
How's da kitchen?? Speaking of the F150...
Waiting for tile backsplash that's been backordered. Twice. Then I can put up the outlet strip, install the pot filler and finish painting.
I still prefer my '02 Sequoia over this. I get 20 mpg with my V8 with 270k miles on it. Will this Ford last that long?
You mean 20 mpg going down the hill? Or it's what your old computer says? Real world test is filling up tank and seeing how many miles you drive, then divide...
Toyota sienna front wheel drive averages 18-19mpg combined. In real world driving.
@@maniac32145 Since I bought it in March, the onboard comp says I've avgd 17 mpg. At the pump calculations range from 20 down to 15 per tank depending on highway / town use. Granted, I live in Illinois with no hills or traffic.
How hard is it on a motor and starter to be cranked over 100 times a day? And how much gas does a vehicle use at idle for one minute? Not worth it at all
@@snailguy5565 that's still doesn't help the starter
Donald Salkovick
It does not rely on the starter for Stop n Go
Then tell me how the motor restarts ?
The gear ratio from the starter-drive pinion to the flywheel ring gear is optimized to make the starter's motor turn more slowly. This can be done without materially changing the design of the transmission or flywheel at all on existing designs.
Crucially, this reduces starter-motor speed (in RPM), since 90 percent of starter-motor brush wear occurs not during cranking, but during the coast-down after the start has finished. If a higher-torque motor can spin more slowly, its coast-down time is shorter, increasing its longevity. The composition of the carbon and copper brushes on a start-stop motor differs from its traditional counterparts to increase longevity without accelerating the wear on the commutator. Rather than rely on oil-impregnated bushings for the rotating assemblies, start-stop starters mostly use needle bearings. The solenoid on start-stop starters decouples the mechanical action of engaging the drive pinion into the flywheel from the electrical action of stopping and starting the motor.
This allows for a dedicated design to turn power on and off to the motor, optimizing contact design and wear, against contacts that have to be integrated as part of a spring-loaded plunger.
This also reduces the electrical load requires to turn the engine, so that there is enough current available for accessories/lighting to operate during the start event.
Finally, start-stop motors are integrated with other technologies that identify when each cylinder of the engine will reach top-dead center.
That lets the fuel injectors pulse and fire during the middle of a complete rotation of the crank, against having to wait for a complete revolution that lets the first cylinder reach that position to start the fuel-spark timing sequence.
Donald Salkovick turn it off!!
Where the video is recorder?
Personally, I'd miss the optional refrigerator available in the Ford Flex. :)
Love the fridge!
"Electronic limited slip differential" Is this just another way of saying an open diff with brakes that stop the spinning wheel?
All these signature packages on a model vehicle is ridiculous and just fluctuate the base price of vehicles today.
“Expedition has the refinement, room, and brawn to take families on major Expeditions”. You couldn’t help yourself lol. And why do Ford, GM and FCA price something so high when they know dealers will offers incentives anyway? I would think the price would turn people off, but these big SUVs still sell in high numbers.
Because everyone loves feeling like they're getting a bargain.
Tom "Truck-Based SUV" Voelk
Over 80k 😱
ford has some pretty good deals and incentives. should be a lot lower
So. Much. Plastic. Until I saw this I didn't realize just how much better the Navigator was on the inside, the interior here looks like a Yugo compared to the Navigator lol. Nice vehicle, but if you're going to spend 80 grand on this you might as well get the Navigator lol. But FYI I drive a Ford Excursion, and the 5. 7 liter diesel engine is amazing, and it has a better interior than this thing! Which is sad! and remember folks don't miss any of Tom's videos, ring that Bell! Oh wait that was the other guy lol! I love all your videos Tom!!!
Your Excursion has a better interior than this? In what way? Because it's certainly not overall material quality.
@@baddriversofcolga Haha. Funny Guy. Great joke there sir.
5.7 L diesel? I'm not aware of any diesel engine in that size from any maker. Anyway, my truck is an 05 F250 Harley Davidson. And no, the interior of an Excursion, even Eddie Bower, is not better than this. You have to judge it in person, not over video for fair comparison.
Great reply, John. It's well known that's Ford interior quality was quite bad in the era of the Excursion, and this comes from someone who owns a 2006 Explorer.
@@baddriversofcolga Wow....look, the Excursion is nothing like an Explorer. Lol. That's like comparing a Toyota Land Cruiser to a Toyota RAV4, totally different vehicles. I honestly thought you were joking. I just find it funny that my Excursion has real wood and a lot more leather than it does plastic, and to me the new Expeditions carpet also looks unbelievably cheap.
In fact I was at a Ford dealership recently and when comparing the carpet that came in mine, versus the carpet that's in the new Ford Expedition, you can see the difference up close, they're using some sort of really cheap material, if you're at a Ford dealership try rubbing some of it with your hand, you will notice immediately what I'm talking about. I was honestly shocked with the poor quality, it starts to flake away, this is what happens when you use cheap Chinese knockoffs to cut corners for price controls...
Yanno if you take care of the interior and exterior of your vehicle, it will look nice for a long time, just saying. Treat your vehicle right and it will treat you right.
Also, I have Monster torque with the diesel engine, and their latest diesel engine feels a little rubbery to me(like a cvt) Also my Excursion is an inch longer than a Dodge Ram 3500 or a King Ranch Super Duty.
Since I use it for work a lot, it's a great vehicle for hauling and towing stuff, and when is really bad weather, it goes through it with no problem, it has outstanding four-wheel drive. Whether you're in the mountains or at the coast, it drives like a champ.
And you've got to love that hand of God torque that comes from the 6.0 liter diesel engine. Oh, by the way, thank you sincerely for pointing that out!! 😎 I've been saying it wrong this whole time, I popped the hood and looked under there and you're right, it's a 6.0, I work over a hundred hours a week so sometimes I make mistakes sir. The joys of being self-employed. I guess I'll sleep in the next life lol.
Of course you can always upgrade the interior a bit with aftermarket stuff if you don't like the interior of your Explorer. There's a huge quantity of aftermarket material out there and a good bit of it is not very expensive, and then it will make your Explorer look a lot nicer. In the end sir, to each their own.
So who knows maybe before I got my truck somebody spent a little time upgrading the interior, but it definitely has better quality when compared side-by-side with this Expedition, when I looked in that truck, I was surprised just how cheap the materials were. Anywho, Have a good day. 😎
V6 Engine sounds weak and turbo will prob fail at 100k
Currently at 114k
It needs a plug
Did he say KEEP THIS CRAP 💩 FUEL⛽️. 👀🙈ouch that’s a LOW BLOW i guess he wasn’t HAPPY with his PAY 💰 😁
"keep this craft fueled"
Call me persnickety but I couldn't look away from that flap hanging down at the front.
Aerodynamics. Most SUVs, crossovers, and trucks have them. Most manufacturers allow you to remove them, if you choose.
At this price I'd rather buy a used LX570 or Land Cruiser. It'll actually outlast the Expedition after 15 years.
Fastest SUV ever made
u can almost get a land cruiser for 80k
Awesome profile pic
The Land Cruiser is so old though and has less interior space and less hitech interior features and it has a somewhat unrefined driving experience for its cost and interior space is disappointing for how big it is.
Land Cruiser, yes please
yizhou chen this is wayyyyy better than Land Cruiser. Pls. Expedition is safer, better technology, better engine, comfort, design. Ford truck /SUV buyers don't shop Toyota.
53k starting price ... 80k for a Ford ... Shiiidddd smh
Amazing isn’t it? I look forward to seeing loyal Trump supporters burn their brand new Expeditions since Ford is standing with the NFL players’ right to #takeaknee.
Jermaine Crump well worth it. Its better built, safer, better technology & drives smoother than my Lincoln MKZ hybrid & BMW 5-series!
Nicholas Gauthier no Ford is not. Don't forget Ford family owns Detroit Lions!
Why does everyone keep saying “$60 to $80 thousand for a Ford”. Why not? That’s the price for high end Yukons and Tahoe’s. What makes them better than Expedition? Interior on Expedition is far superior.
@@davesmith3052 because it's a Ford and believe me I'm not paying that much for no damn yukons and tahoes either
good suv on paper. but ford and GM needs to lower their price to compete.
Ford and GM own this segment. There is no other competition (maybe the Nissan Armada but it’s the same price).
That's MSRP. Incentives and deals tend to be generous in this segment, especially with Ford and GM battling out.
CTO Information
To compete with whom ?
$80k for a fucking ford expedition.... just wow...
Kids; Do your homework!
Ford backs Nike, no sale.
Ford backs NFL player's right to protest police brutality. Not Nike.
Ugly front and rear end...
Cars this thirsty for personal transport is a perversion. We all know that the climate change is real and should do our best to limit our impact on climate - driving something like this is not doing that.
Your point is well taken but your ire is more appropriately directed at cars like the Mustang GT than behemoths like this.
I agree there are other cars where the same can be said, however mileage is just one factor it also matters how many miles a car is gonna be driven. Now I don't have data on this, but I would think that on average family cars drive many more miles on average than say muscle cars.
I would really wish people prioritized a little different when buying cars and it can start with the small stuff. For example many cars are only really driven by the same person, so why do seat adjustments and steering wheel adjustments need to be electric - why not have a car with manual adjustment that is then a little lighter. It is a small thing, but everything adds up considering millions of cars are sold every year.
bzdtemp Well said man! I agree!
Tree hugger convention in progress
I'll take that as a compliment.
Does it mean you don't agree many cars these days and especially cars like this huge SUV aren't overweight and overpowered, which makes them using gas like there is no tomorrow?
I'm not saying people should not buy cars, but merely that when doing so thinking about the environment should be a given. Doing so will not only mean fewer visits to the pump it will also mean impacting a little less on our climate.
interior is so dated
troy smith I like it! I think it modern looking compare to the Tahoe, Escalade, Yukon, Range Rover, which is real dated!
troy smith yeah. I like the Suburban, Escalade, and Yukon XL interiors better. If you ask me I’d rather buy a GM SUV than the Expedition tbh. Ford just had a massive recall on the expedition.
HW2800 The Range Rover interior was just updated and is gorgeous - when it works.
ktpinnacle I agree! Range Rovers are super luxurious.
range rovers are beautiful but reliability is a huge issue