Joey & Tim | when the party is over [grand army]

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  • @taylorstep1413
    @taylorstep1413 3 роки тому +687

    Tim is a representation how dangerous "nice guys" seeing woman respectable only when they're possessions.

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +109

      exactly! this is exactly how to describe it, mate! he was perfectly kind when joey was doing what he wanted her to do. but, the moment that she declared that she was her own person, capable of making her own decisions, tim decided that she deserved what happened to her / that it was okay. he's disgusting, honestly. it's awful to see how many people defend him, excuse his actions, and hope for him and joey to end up together ( this is especially sick, innit? ).

    • @taylorstep1413
      @taylorstep1413 3 роки тому +51

      @@elijahwinchester6690 because he saw her as his prize/possession to be won. So in the taxi his was brain was like "if I can't win you, let them win you over and see how they treat you"

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +14

      @@taylorstep1413 exactly. he's a prat.

    • @nkaresrotana4776
      @nkaresrotana4776 3 роки тому +7

      @@elijahwinchester6690 literally changed my opinion of him

    • @MeresteDuvelsaint
      @MeresteDuvelsaint 3 роки тому +6

      Fuck that .. Bitch tried tim, he was not possesive he simply asked her to cool it.... Bitch was playing with his feelings.

  • @LK-pi4fp
    @LK-pi4fp 4 роки тому +627

    Lets celebrate we are here before everyone is talking about this show... I mean it is so good like ahh

    • @LK-pi4fp
      @LK-pi4fp 4 роки тому +2

      this video has 428 views right now, someone remind me when it has 10k please :))

    • @creafwiends
      @creafwiends  4 роки тому +4

      @@LK-pi4fp bruh 10k is a lot, but if it ever happens, I'll remind you myself haha.

    • @celiafred9407
      @celiafred9407 4 роки тому

      Remind me too, it will be one day

    • @moonlight-qt3cj
      @moonlight-qt3cj 4 роки тому +3

      We need a season 2!!!!!

    • @editingtutorials8881
      @editingtutorials8881 4 роки тому

      rightttt, I watched it and I’m kind of well Idk excited but not for it to blow up

  • @IsabelMartinez-qz5rf
    @IsabelMartinez-qz5rf 3 роки тому +485

    Tim really watched her fall apart 😭😭😭

    • @riahnnaa667
      @riahnnaa667 3 роки тому +3

      right😭

    • @ki5644
      @ki5644 3 роки тому +39

      honestly and when he finally revealed that he knew what happened that sucked bc he should he been on her side instead of his friends

    • @avocadodip2157
      @avocadodip2157 3 роки тому +11

      Tim deserved better, she did him wrong right in front of him.

    • @fatiguemei2965
      @fatiguemei2965 3 роки тому +21

      @@avocadodip2157 wtf u sick

    • @Lalaoppise
      @Lalaoppise 3 роки тому +3

      @@avocadodip2157 no she deserves better, Tim is an ass, nobody should have to go through the stuff she sent through.

  • @kristal1324
    @kristal1324 4 роки тому +376

    i was really rooting for them too. i hope he confesses if there’s a season 2!

    • @billroland2797
      @billroland2797 4 роки тому

      Oh that's night....how are you doing today hope you are having a wonderful time?

    • @anacascuda6863
      @anacascuda6863 3 роки тому +46

      ?? he let others abuse her

    • @kristal1324
      @kristal1324 3 роки тому +7

      @@anacascuda6863 yeah i know and i was rooting for him before it happened

    • @nelyjtx1429
      @nelyjtx1429 3 роки тому +5

      he confessed just to late .

  • @britneymastroianni4837
    @britneymastroianni4837 4 роки тому +309

    his situation reminds me of Justin in 13 reasons

    • @jazzie.3022
      @jazzie.3022 4 роки тому +2

      Sorry lol

    • @Magniloquentism
      @Magniloquentism 4 роки тому +37

      Completely see where you're drawing those conclusions from. I myself was just comparing them due to their similar roles as bystander/witness, and the victim being the witness's current romantic interest or partner. NOT TO MENTION it took both of them an extraordinarily long time to finally confess

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +23

      not at all. justin tried to defend jessica. if he'd been sitting beside her, he never would've allowed bryce to continue. the only reason he didn't save her was because he was locked out. justin lied to protect jessica, hoping that if she didn't know the truth, then she wouldn't be affected. tim lied to protect his friends, the rapists. justin _never_ lied to authorities, though he lied to some of the reasons why in order to keep jessica from finding out ( it wasn't right that he didn't tell her, but he genuinely had her best interest at heart, tim doesn't ). the moment jessica knew what happened, justin offered to turn himself in and to tell what really happened.

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +16

      @@Magniloquentism ↑ justin didn't confess until he realised that lying to jessica was actually putting her in more danger ( because she was comfortable around bryce ). he did the right thing by not telling clay and the others, because it's jessica's place to. so, you can't really blame him for that. he volunteered to tell the truth and to turn himself in the moment jessica really knew, because he wanted to fix everything. tim lied to the authorities ( i don't remember justin ever doing that ). and he did it after joey publicly opened up about what happened ( when jessica knew the truth and was ready to press charges, justin showed up to help her, he told the truth in court and served his deserved time in juvie for the crime he committed ). also, as said above, justin never would've let bryce take advantage of jessica if he was literally right beside her. he tried to fight bryce off and was thrown to the ground, locked out of the room. also, justin was in a position with bryce that explained ( _not_ justified ) why he continued to hang out with him afterwards. they were extremely codependent and justin literally needed bryce's help. tim and anna are not in the same boat, their home life isn't shown to be especially unhealthy or unsafe. yet, tim continues hanging out with his friends after actually witnessing the rape ( and i mean, he was quite literally watching them do it; it's confirmed ). justin was redeemable, because he was in a tough situation and he tried his best to protect jessica. he also serves his time for what he did and is immediately remorseful to jessica, quickly offering to do anything she needs to help with the case and such. tim isn't redeemable because he didn't even try to help joey, and he lied to authorities afterwards, ruining joey's case and destroying her chance to get justice ( for now ). he has no excuse.

    • @user-cm6vx4im2s
      @user-cm6vx4im2s 3 роки тому +7

      That’s sooo different Justin tried to intervene but he got locked out Yh kept it a secret which was fucked up but Tim let her get r**** just cause he was mad at her( for no reason may I add) and then he confesses when everything’s over to fill his hero complex ugh fuck Tim

  • @samscorner984
    @samscorner984 3 роки тому +149

    I broke down, at the fact that they got away with it. Tim sat and watched and my heart sunk knowing she was helpless. Hopefully, there's a season 2 so Tim can speak out.

    • @aminahlfc
      @aminahlfc 3 роки тому +9

      My heart broken when he $lut $hamed her at the police

    • @rasheemthebestfirstone3274
      @rasheemthebestfirstone3274 2 роки тому

      It’s canceled Tim shouldn’t have even been there he should’ve left before the taxi

    • @nairechorgais8730
      @nairechorgais8730 Рік тому

      That's reality. Sorry, reality sucks

  • @Xyliaaa
    @Xyliaaa 4 роки тому +225

    It's a beautiful edit

    • @pearlvalerieakhigbe9622
      @pearlvalerieakhigbe9622 3 роки тому +2

      I really wish he didn't mess up
      I still hope he confesses
      I doubt there's hope for them now

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +7

      if he's the type of person who would allow this to happen, then joey deserves better. whether or not it happens, he'd still let it happen, ya know? that's the type of person he is. i don't think they had any chance.

  • @peepeepoopoo4751
    @peepeepoopoo4751 4 роки тому +71

    This is the best show I ever watched

    • @tamara3256
      @tamara3256 3 роки тому +3

      Same

    • @riahnnaa667
      @riahnnaa667 3 роки тому +2

      frrr

    • @ki5644
      @ki5644 3 роки тому +2

      fr i saw something about it on tiktok and I was so glad i decided to watch it

  • @oreabejide
    @oreabejide 4 роки тому +649

    ewww let’s romanticize a man that lied on her for his homiesss

    • @peacewrlddd
      @peacewrlddd 4 роки тому +8

      fr

    • @angeladarko88
      @angeladarko88 4 роки тому +7

      Truee.

    • @babygirleriss_
      @babygirleriss_ 3 роки тому +5

      TRUE .

    • @ki5644
      @ki5644 3 роки тому +27

      i really hate that he stuck with his friends instead of with her, I liked them and i hope if they do put them together then he has some serious character development but I'd be happy if they weren't together

    • @synthesav5013
      @synthesav5013 3 роки тому

      Bro code duh, but yuu right

  • @Rxnnrose
    @Rxnnrose 3 роки тому +91

    It doesn’t make what Tim did(well..didn’t) do in the cab better, but at least he feels bad about it. Luke and George aren’t very remorseful and that makes it worse. Tim was also very jealous and petty that night, so you understand why he would’ve been upset, but that, again doesn’t make it any better. I know i’m taking it almost too seriously, since it’s a show, but my best friend pinned me against a wall and violated me the same way, so i took that scene very personally, but i appreciate them spreading the word that rape doesn’t discriminate. anyone could force anything sexual on anybody.

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +13

      my best friend was the same one who assaulted me as well. it's a large part of why i started watching this show, honestly. i take it seriously as well. nonetheless, the fact that tim was angry actually makes it even worse. he seemed to think that, because she didn't want to be with him, and because he was upset, she deserved to be taken advantage of. as for george, he also displayed a bit of guilt. he's still a monster, as is tim, as is luke (who doesn't show any remorse at all ). feeling bad about it doesn't make any difference, ya know? george still hurt her, but if you watch him during the confrontation scene, he shows remorse.

    • @Lalaoppise
      @Lalaoppise 3 роки тому +5

      I got violated by my best friends older brother, so this story hit me hard Bc it can be the closest people to you that will Harm you in any way

    • @rasheemthebestfirstone3274
      @rasheemthebestfirstone3274 2 роки тому +1

      @@elijahwinchester6690 stop assuming we don’t even know if he was in his right he is a weak male that’s for sure

  • @katysinterlude
    @katysinterlude 3 роки тому +79

    Tim whole situation literally reminds me of Justin from 13 reasons why.

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +8

      not at all. justin tried to defend jessica. if he'd been sitting beside her, he never would've allowed bryce to continue. the only reason he didn't save her was because he was locked out. justin lied to protect jessica, hoping that if she didn't know the truth, then she wouldn't be affected. tim lied to protect his friends, the rapists. justin _never_ lied to authorities, though he lied to some of the reasons why in order to keep jessica from finding out ( it wasn't right that he didn't tell her, but he genuinely had her best interest at heart, tim doesn't ). the moment jessica knew what happened, justin offered to turn himself in and to tell what really happened. justin didn't confess until he realised that lying to jessica was actually putting her in more danger ( because she was comfortable around bryce ). he did the right thing by not telling clay and the others, because it's jessica's place to. so, you can't really blame him for that. he volunteered to tell the truth and to turn himself in the moment jessica really knew, because he wanted to fix everything. tim lied to the authorities ( i don't remember justin ever doing that ). and he did it after joey publicly opened up about what happened ( when jessica knew the truth and was ready to press charges, justin showed up to help her, he told the truth in court and served his deserved time in juvie for the crime he committed ). also, as said above, justin never would've let bryce take advantage of jessica if he was literally right beside her. he tried to fight bryce off and was thrown to the ground, locked out of the room. also, justin was in a position with bryce that explained ( _not_ justified ) why he continued to hang out with him afterwards. they were extremely codependent and justin literally needed bryce's help. tim and anna are not in the same boat, their home life isn't shown to be especially unhealthy or unsafe. yet, tim continues hanging out with his friends after actually witnessing the rape ( and i mean, he was quite literally watching them do it; it's confirmed ). justin was redeemable, because he was in a tough situation and he tried his best to protect jessica. he also serves his time for what he did and is immediately remorseful to jessica, quickly offering to do anything she needs to help with the case and such. tim isn't redeemable because he didn't even try to help joey, and he lied to authorities afterwards, ruining joey's case and destroying her chance to get justice ( for now ). he has no excuse.

  • @becho6871
    @becho6871 4 роки тому +16

    I love this show so much.

  • @ariannamartina
    @ariannamartina 3 роки тому +39

    i need a season 2 asap

  • @morganlv13
    @morganlv13 3 роки тому +12

    I can't believe they cancelled this show

  • @sophiacrutch
    @sophiacrutch 4 роки тому +7

    i cant🖐 this is so good-

  • @alexandrabolocan7618
    @alexandrabolocan7618 3 роки тому +18

    We all know Tim is inside a good boy, he will tell the truth.

    • @ev1490
      @ev1490 3 роки тому +17

      The thing is no matter what he does in the next season, he will never be a good boy again. All he can do is partially right some of his wrongs.

  • @rosiedeherrera6808
    @rosiedeherrera6808 3 роки тому +8

    REMINDS ME SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH OF JUSTIN,JESS AND BRYCE

  • @lydia163
    @lydia163 3 роки тому +3

    ommggg !! sososooo beautifull 😭

  • @aedenflorish5991
    @aedenflorish5991 3 роки тому +17

    Not here for any kind of redemption arc or anything like that. But who I do feel bad for is the sister. Because I would absolutely believe my sibling over pretty much anyone in this world. And to find out that you mistreated your best friend like that just because your brother couldn't open his fucking mouth. She must have felt so awful in that moment. I can't relate to Tim at all but I could have been the sister.

  • @mariafigueroa4973
    @mariafigueroa4973 2 роки тому +7

    When this first came out I really thought this show would blow up but then it was canceled 😢

  • @jeremiah7043
    @jeremiah7043 3 роки тому +15

    i just finished grand army and i loved it so much, and i loved tim and joey so much until everything happened..

  • @asmrlucyy
    @asmrlucyy 4 роки тому +5

    love this

  • @abrildavalos8056
    @abrildavalos8056 3 роки тому +39

    i was so angry tim didn't say or do anything but i was so happy in this scene when tim finally realized he shouldn't have lied and stuff i would like it if they maybe got together in season 2

    • @meryemkizilkaya1195
      @meryemkizilkaya1195 3 роки тому +20

      Hell no what Tim did is fucking wrong just because he feels bad now it still doesn’t justify or erase what he did and if Joey and Tim get together (which I can’t imagine because I don’t think Joey will forgive him) they would be very toxic

    • @fatiguemei2965
      @fatiguemei2965 3 роки тому +8

      he is a sick person overall 🤢 please just watch it again or think about it

  • @Popodelavemora
    @Popodelavemora 3 роки тому +3

    Omg es hermoso muy hermoso

  • @naaatsw3i454
    @naaatsw3i454 3 роки тому +2

    I've never watched this show but ... Jesus. I'm really really really upset, even if it had been a boy, I would be. We seriously need to step up!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ashlynbarbee5356
    @ashlynbarbee5356 3 роки тому +10

    You know what’s so fucked up it’s Anna’s fault really, because she wouldn’t let them be together and Joey was a good friend

    • @ev1490
      @ev1490 3 роки тому +4

      It will never be Anna’s fault that her brother watched his friends rape his crush just because he was angry at her

    • @ashlynbarbee5356
      @ashlynbarbee5356 3 роки тому

      @@ev1490 Nobody asked you

  • @cmw81
    @cmw81 3 роки тому +5

    Okay but before he did what he did I thought Tim was a hot version of Clay Jensen lol

    • @dawn7706
      @dawn7706 3 роки тому +2

      right? i literally has the same thought, why is nobody talking about how much these 2 look alike

  • @zf1lm.s
    @zf1lm.s 4 роки тому +5

    how do you get the clips

  • @KamikazeK219
    @KamikazeK219 3 роки тому +4

    Just remember y'all used to hate Justin from 13 reasons why

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +3

      they're so different. justin tried to defend jessica. if he'd been sitting beside her, he never would've allowed bryce to continue. the only reason he didn't save her was because he was locked out. justin lied to protect jessica, hoping that if she didn't know the truth, then she wouldn't be affected. tim lied to protect his friends, the rapists. justin _never_ lied to authorities, though he lied to some of the reasons why in order to keep jessica from finding out ( it wasn't right that he didn't tell her, but he genuinely had her best interest at heart, tim doesn't ). the moment jessica knew what happened, justin offered to turn himself in and to tell what really happened. justin didn't confess until he realised that lying to jessica was actually putting her in more danger ( because she was comfortable around bryce ). he did the right thing by not telling clay and the others, because it's jessica's place to. so, you can't really blame him for that. he volunteered to tell the truth and to turn himself in the moment jessica really knew, because he wanted to fix everything. tim lied to the authorities ( i don't remember justin ever doing that ). and he did it after joey publicly opened up about what happened ( when jessica knew the truth and was ready to press charges, justin showed up to help her, he told the truth in court and served his deserved time in juvie for the crime he committed ). also, as said above, justin never would've let bryce take advantage of jessica if he was literally right beside her. he tried to fight bryce off and was thrown to the ground, locked out of the room. also, justin was in a position with bryce that explained ( _not_ justified ) why he continued to hang out with him afterwards. they were extremely codependent and justin literally needed bryce's help. tim and anna are not in the same boat, their home life isn't shown to be especially unhealthy or unsafe. yet, tim continues hanging out with his friends after actually witnessing the rape ( and i mean, he was quite literally watching them do it; it's confirmed ). justin was redeemable, because he was in a tough situation and he tried his best to protect jessica. he also serves his time for what he did and is immediately remorseful to jessica, quickly offering to do anything she needs to help with the case and such. tim isn't redeemable because he didn't even try to help joey, and he lied to authorities afterwards, ruining joey's case and destroying her chance to get justice ( for now ). he has no excuse.

  • @amara1850
    @amara1850 3 роки тому +9

    No no no don’t ship them, I hope the writer don’t put them together, she deserves so much better

  • @maddieconnelly7893
    @maddieconnelly7893 3 роки тому +4

    I am sorry but he was fucked up, high drunk and wasn't thinking straight, that is no excuse for letting them do that to her but that should come into play and i still ship them so much but he needs to apologize and if they were to get together netflix needs to take the relationship slow. I hope in season 2 he confesses what they did to her. But they need to fix what happened, her and anna and tim need to talk geroge and luke need to apologize but i do not want joey to interact with them. So yeah don't come at me :)

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +3

      you're disgusting, i'll come at you if i want to. joey deserves better. also, have you ever been high / drunk? literally _ever_ in your life? you don't lose control over your body and mind. he could've easily intervened. you can say that's not an excuse, but that is quite literally you excusing his actions. you must be a child, otherwise you're an ignorant git, aren't you? you've clearly never experienced this sort of thing / you most definitely do not understand how serious this situation is.

  • @fatimafatima8604
    @fatimafatima8604 Рік тому +2

    لهاذا السبب نرتدي نحن الحجاب ولا نسلم مع الرجال باليد تفاديا لكثير من المعاصي منهم ما حدت للفتاة المسكينة

  • @samsalsamsal2799
    @samsalsamsal2799 3 роки тому +1

    Is there part2??

  • @csherpa21
    @csherpa21 3 роки тому +2

    im just confused why tf tim waited till she left like what

  • @user-cm6vx4im2s
    @user-cm6vx4im2s 3 роки тому +7

    I literally thought they were siblings until they kissed 😭🤚

  • @juliaassis4438
    @juliaassis4438 3 роки тому +1

    cara isso é tão----

  • @Destinnies
    @Destinnies 4 роки тому

    Tbh, I was so head empty about time but chile-

  • @ETAbunny.
    @ETAbunny. 3 роки тому +1

    it sucks cuz they were her friends!

  • @natemai7700
    @natemai7700 3 роки тому +6

    Can you please put a trigger warning this triggered my ptsd

  • @luckpoof7261
    @luckpoof7261 4 роки тому

    I'm literally gonna die if fucking Netflix cancel this show too,I'm gonna commit some crimes.

  • @mirellepensa2731
    @mirellepensa2731 2 роки тому

    when i watch grand army i scrolled all the time joey and Tim places

  • @Marie-mj6jb
    @Marie-mj6jb 10 місяців тому

    I honestly thought Tim passed out and then woke up afterwards unsure of what happened. But I guess he fully was aware. I think he was just hurt and in shock and felt helpless in the moment too. Who knows.

  • @SonYonatan
    @SonYonatan 4 роки тому +18

    I just wish Tim got out the car or didn’t get in the car with Joey and the other 2. Lol she was saying “ I get to do that, and you can’t stop me”.
    Alright bet I’m not stopping you... peace ✌🏾

    • @anacascuda6863
      @anacascuda6863 3 роки тому +1

      ???????

    • @SonYonatan
      @SonYonatan 3 роки тому

      @@anacascuda6863 question ?

    • @elijahwinchester6690
      @elijahwinchester6690 3 роки тому +5

      right. yeah, you're saying that he shouldn't have helped her at all.. fuck you, you ignorant git. she was raped, it wasn't her fault and it wasn't her choice. she didn't want to have sex with george / luke.

  • @awesomesaucy3549
    @awesomesaucy3549 4 роки тому +3

    Nah fuck this ship, when you love someone and is dating with them you protect them no matter what! Speak up for your girl bro. High or not he saw and did nothing about it

  • @ssoorrcc
    @ssoorrcc 3 роки тому +11

    I think the viewers highly confuse what Tim knew during the cab ride with what they did. Joey told him to back off several times before they started assaulting her. She said Tim's name and asked the guys to wait, but there was loud music playing and he did not hear her at all.
    People, think about this. He would have loves to save her from these guys, he would have loved to be her knight in a shining armor, he just thought she explicitly told him not to do anything and that what they were doing was her choice. Do not confuse what the viewer saw and heard with what Tim saw and heard.
    The guys should have stopped, like 1000% absolutely that was assault and I think they know, but Tim? He would have loved a reason to stop them, he would have jumped at the chance.

    • @kyraadams8578
      @kyraadams8578 3 роки тому +5

      So why does he feel guilty and is confessing. If that was POV he would be confused would have asked her if something happened but he didnt do that he sided with the boys and didnt say anything. Cause he knew she was raped. Stop defending his actions. This is not giving you hate I just genuinely think this should be addressed

    • @replykz
      @replykz 2 роки тому

      @@kyraadams8578 jajajajajajaa

    • @Lia-be6ug
      @Lia-be6ug Рік тому +2

      This is a disgusting comment idc if it was a year ago he let it happen

  • @mia7061
    @mia7061 3 роки тому +3

    Tim let them do that to her because he wasn't getting any attention, poor Tim

  • @julieyil5618
    @julieyil5618 3 роки тому +2

    I‘m such a bad person that i ship them 😫

  • @sm_91
    @sm_91 Рік тому

    I liked Joey till she started making out with two of friends to make tim made and she desereved that consequences.
    I felt bad for Tim for what she did to him and angry at the same time he did not helped her when she was assulted