"The Final Song" - Boss Analysis - Drakengard 3

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  • @velveetaenthusiast
    @velveetaenthusiast Рік тому +498

    Yoko taro is an scp that sqaure enix is containing

    • @diamondhamster4320
      @diamondhamster4320 3 місяці тому +5

      Nah, he is one of the Japanese Game Dev Holy trinity along with Miyazaki and Kojima. Also there is a bunch Japanese Game Dev angels like Suda51 and others.

    • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
      @Thiago_Alves_Souza 3 місяці тому

      ​@@diamondhamster4320homie, you missed the reference

    • @diamondhamster4320
      @diamondhamster4320 3 місяці тому

      @@Thiago_Alves_Souza No, I did not. I made a comment.

    • @ZombiiChix
      @ZombiiChix 3 місяці тому

      He's a treasure and I adore him lol

    • @ZombiiChix
      @ZombiiChix 3 місяці тому

      The best part of this whole thing is the utterly mesmerizing song that plays.

  • @Ale-Y
    @Ale-Y 9 місяців тому +79

    This is why emulators have save states

  • @solracstormhunter3023
    @solracstormhunter3023 2 роки тому +564

    "Suffering defeat after defeat... the man's mind reached past it's limit... breaking down to insanity. But he couldn't stop yet. The man had still a job that MUST BE DONE: To finally beat the directors cruel joke."
    Nero the Sky:
    *unsheathes Controller with masochistic intent*
    "Yokotaro..."

    • @ancientnight
      @ancientnight Рік тому +33

      *looks away from screen*
      *hits the first rings*
      "... rhythm beats. that does freeze my bOOOOOONESSS AAARRRRRROUUUUUUUUNND!"

    • @tanuki01
      @tanuki01 Рік тому +1

      Lacks the really fucked up twist at the end of your average Yoko Taro story

  • @nicholaskane69
    @nicholaskane69 Рік тому +329

    47:09
    "...I often think about the God who blessed us with this cryptic puzzle and wonder if we'll ever have the chance to kill him."

  • @ryukiiko
    @ryukiiko Рік тому +492

    I love how at the end when Kuroi Uta (Zero's theme) properly starts playing all the intoners move with her. Because it's her realizing all the intoners are Herself. They're not people, They are not individuals, They're reflections of herself. And the final dance symbolizes her knowledge of it, they can have their own movement, they can try to be their own people, but at the end of the day, it all comes back to Zero.

    • @advmx3
      @advmx3 Рік тому

      And the saddest realization is that you cannot actually analyze it because the game is constantly trying to fuck you :D

    • @cryguy0000
      @cryguy0000 6 місяців тому +33

      I think she did know they were a part of her. It's why her name is "Zero" because without them in her she was empty. They were pieces of herself and the magic that kept her alive. Perhaps the intoners are a reflection of humanity itself, people drown themselves in vice, lies, curiosity, love and justice. Whether or not it's genuine or truly right, and without those we are nothing, but we can never truly kill them. Humanity's core is the final boss, all of its disgusting truth and we live on despite it

    • @engineerengifar5713
      @engineerengifar5713 Місяць тому +1

      Kind of recontextualizes the fact that she hates them so much.

  • @sarahtonin6367
    @sarahtonin6367 Рік тому +84

    "FUCK you, sir. I loved it."
    Yoko Taro, A Summary

  • @-libertyprimev1-902
    @-libertyprimev1-902 Рік тому +151

    The sole reason there is not a 4th Drakengard is because Yoko Taro hasn't come up with a more *player hostile,* in this video's terms, Final Boss YET.
    The game could have the smallest budget, least amount of advertising or hype, most minute sales expectation, ect, and none of it would matter. The day some 7 circles of hell level s**t manifests itself in Yoko Taro's mind, there will somehow some way be a 4th Drakengard released and no one could stop it from happening...
    Edit (Around 24:43) From this point I could not stop laughing, not an exaggeration for the 2-3 minutes I lost as much control as he had...

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 10 місяців тому +15

      Let’s be honest, this game needs the NieR Replicant treatment. The story and characters are great. And more people need to actually experience the bit of gamer bullying

    • @fuckugplus
      @fuckugplus 2 місяці тому

      Neir is the continuity of drakengard 3

    • @randomanifan
      @randomanifan Місяць тому +6

      I can't find the post anymore but allegedly Yoko Taro joked that he would skip Drakengard 4 and instead leap to 5, where the plot was the characters looking for the 4th game. So if he ever makes a new drakengard game it'll be the meanest meta joke to grace gamers.

  • @0wnf4c3
    @0wnf4c3 Рік тому +602

    Yo I was on the QA team for the NA release (check the credits for my name!). I was the first person to beat this and this shit took me two full shifts....to get to the final note moment. No debug tools, no guide or walkthrough, no warning. I thought I might burn down the office at that point. I would have rather been paid to be waterboarded by the CIA for two days.
    Only one other person on the QA team beat this branch/"boss" fyi.

  • @leonhighwind2305
    @leonhighwind2305 Рік тому +275

    It's no mistake that the timing to hit the final note is right at the start of Mikhail's line after Zero speaks, and that the rings always spawn at the same height as the Intoners' mouths.
    The Final Song is an art piece, a boss fight, and a final conversation between Zero and Mikhail.

  • @yubelia
    @yubelia Рік тому +299

    If you look at this from the lore of the game, it does make a lot of sense actually. The intoners are goddesses of song. So it makes sense, that the flower, the big bad boss is using music as a weapon. The boss is mean but.... well this is the final batlle. The dragon is the only one left to save the world. At this point, Zero is gone. He has to do this himself. So even the fact that one mistake means death makes sense.
    This boss is mean, but for this situation, it is perfect.

    • @maniau
      @maniau Рік тому +32

      also mikhail constantly yells -that's mean, Zero!"

  • @ruikirisame1744
    @ruikirisame1744 Рік тому +78

    If Neir Automata had half of the amount of bullshit as that final note. I would be in jail for premeditated murder.

    • @hoovy8081
      @hoovy8081 2 місяці тому

      Only 0.000000001% is the final ending itself but you can cheat at the beginning of the game so its not bull shit.

  • @kindofoutthere
    @kindofoutthere 11 місяців тому +46

    "So of course you play as Mikhail here. He's the only one who could get through this."
    It's New Years Eve. I've had a hell of a year, and NieR/Drakengard means everything to me. This hits a lot harder while I'm hearing everyone shoot fireworks into the sky.
    Thanks for this video. Entertaining and fulfilling, every time.

  • @HeavenlyEchoVirus
    @HeavenlyEchoVirus Рік тому +141

    I didn’t get rage, but I did notice the repeated failures over a few nights actually sunk my mental health a bit. Didn’t realize this was the cause until the night I beat it.

    • @thirdwheel9938
      @thirdwheel9938 Рік тому +24

      That's actually.... worse
      Congrats on beating it 🎉

  • @RaysofLight98
    @RaysofLight98 Рік тому +74

    ‘THAT CLOUD LOOKS LIKE A LOOOSER!’ 😂😂😂
    @17:40
    Also how dare you throw in the Shadowlord theme I’m trying to get over how sad it is… 😂

    • @Maxificent
      @Maxificent Рік тому +3

      Literally my favourite line as well 😂

  • @a.dykeman1980
    @a.dykeman1980 Рік тому +303

    *slaps the roof of The Final Song*
    This bad boy can fit more high-pitched screams in it than a Five Nights at Freddy’s playthrough on the hardest difficulty

    • @GensokyanImperialism
      @GensokyanImperialism Рік тому +6

      Five Nights at Mikhail's?😳😳😳

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 10 місяців тому

      ​@@GensokyanImperialismSpend 5 nights with Mikhail instead

    • @GensokyanImperialism
      @GensokyanImperialism 10 місяців тому

      @@Fermin-hw5pd why not all nights with him instead🥰🥰🥰

  • @kingdomo101
    @kingdomo101 Рік тому +162

    Me and my sister have owned this game for 9 years. We with our combined efforts have still not beaten it.

    • @maniau
      @maniau Рік тому +21

      you can do it! you could try watching a lets play, and gain some confidence in the last fight, then just try for yourselves. it's not that hard after you get into the song.
      (took me months, but because I didn't want to fall into "hating" the game, i just told myself I would only play while I was having fun, the moment it wasn't anymore I would stop, and try again later when I felt like it, now I can redo the fight while enjoying it fully...kinda n_n)

    • @Lh0000
      @Lh0000 Рік тому +52

      4 monthes late but clearly you just need more sisters, a total of 6 should do the job

    • @RealGateGuardian
      @RealGateGuardian Рік тому

      Easiest way to do it is sync the start with the song of someone who did beat this to your playthrough.

    • @MrTempoedoeloe
      @MrTempoedoeloe 11 місяців тому +1

      There is guide in yt that can use to match each tone, u can use that

  • @butter7451
    @butter7451 Рік тому +100

    22:59 "The white girls are trying to dance!" got a chortle out of me.

    • @WardofSquid
      @WardofSquid 10 місяців тому +2

      lol, lkr😅

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 10 місяців тому +9

      Only on Drakengard you look up the sky and see 6 giant white girls dancing, only on Drakengard

  • @skyrah1365
    @skyrah1365 2 роки тому +50

    18:49
    Timestamp for personal enjoyment

    • @ruikirisame1744
      @ruikirisame1744 4 місяці тому +1

      just goes to show how good the script is

  • @OneColdRepublican
    @OneColdRepublican 10 місяців тому +9

    14:00 - 14:13
    That right here is the highlight of this video. Nevermind the rest of this shit. Komeda pulling a gun on himself and saying "Duck" then "I didn't say Simon Says~~~" is COLDEST line ever. That is some tomfoolery of the most unkind.

  • @kaygirl10101
    @kaygirl10101 Рік тому +20

    I came expecting a breakdown of the story, themes, and references. I got a breakdown about how much the director is a troll in every sense of the word. Perfect video.

  • @KaiTenSatsuma
    @KaiTenSatsuma Рік тому +14

    27:50 : "For how mean this boss could be it was ultimately fair"
    And then they turned the lights off.

  • @Aylinmelissaa
    @Aylinmelissaa 2 роки тому +584

    Personally I think this is a work of art

    • @franconunez925
      @franconunez925 Рік тому +55

      My definition of art is something that uses the unique tools of it's medium to share a feeling aside from mere entertainment... And MAN this one sure is using it's medium to share a LOT of hatred and spite to life itself.

    • @IPODsify
      @IPODsify Рік тому +29

      It's art in the truest form, it has the balls to use gameplay to evoke emotions other than fear or joy. It evokes pure anger

    • @peen2804
      @peen2804 Рік тому +12

      ⁠@@franconunez925 that’s a pretty narrow and pretentious definition of art, and that’s before considering that your definition doesn’t make a lick of sense.
      “Using the unique tools of its medium to share a feeling aside from mere entertainment” is as nonsensical as it is asinine. Entertainment is entertainment regardless of the feelings being conveyed. This boss is literal entertainment.
      Sure, maybe it makes a thing mean more to you personally, but it has 0 bearing on said thing being art or not. Defining art in the first place with such broad sweeping black and white strokes is a self-servicing masturbatory endeavor.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean Рік тому +3

      Disagree.

    • @Astareia7312
      @Astareia7312 Рік тому +5

      @@peen2804 i think your just projecting your insecurities
      (also defining art is a very simple task what are you even on)

  • @chibmaniac2
    @chibmaniac2 Рік тому +19

    Nearly 10 years on and I still think about this boss fight on the regular. Thank you for putting this experience into words!

  • @gawkers12
    @gawkers12 Рік тому +47

    As someone who has beaten this song blindfolded, I think I can confidently say this is the hardest boss I’ve ever played in a game ever, next to maybe Galdera in Octopath. But that’s what made it all the more rewarding. I’d still say it’s probably my favorite final boss in a game ever.

    • @БогданКрименюк
      @БогданКрименюк Місяць тому

      The fact that beating it blindfolded is actually EASIER than looking at it because of the crazy misleading camera is honestly incredible

  • @john9920-f4l
    @john9920-f4l 4 місяці тому +2

    Yesterday i finally beat the boss after 1 year of trying and rage quitting over and over again. But the thing that made me the angriest and what kept me going was that this boss was NOT cheap and NOT trash it was a beautifull peace of art that is completly unique in Gaming not because of difficulty but because of the hatred towards the player as it turns the srongest part of Drakengard 3 its music into your enemy fitting for the flower and the intoners but in complete dissonance with the gameplay of this game. I love it but i never want to play anything like it ever again.
    I realy apriciate your analysis because you show the terrible experience and beauty at the same time.

    • @nerothesky
      @nerothesky  3 місяці тому +1

      Yo thank you for the donation! Congrats on your victory, the feeling you get from landing that last note is something that just stays with you. Glad you saw it through to the end.

  • @lunerblade13
    @lunerblade13 Рік тому +144

    6:49 to be fair this game has a strong hold on music. Every intoner has their own song that they use to spread harmony or calamity that also grants them the ability to summon monsters demons dragons and angels.
    Heck they are call in”TONE”rs.

  • @alijahb1962
    @alijahb1962 Рік тому +37

    this was probably my favorite game moment I've ever played. The realization that it was a rhythm game, not being able to fail once, 8 minutes, the final note. All of it was so mesmerizing and beautiful and it gives me such joy that I can't fully explain. I'm like halfway through though and this video is a great depiction of such a cool moment.

  • @joshuayung5158
    @joshuayung5158 11 місяців тому +49

    "No fear."
    *bells begin chiming*
    "One fear."

    • @sansfangirl4life439
      @sansfangirl4life439 4 місяці тому

      legit me on the final boss in Paradigm's Breach in XIV xD the moment i heard those first few notes i was like 'oh......oh no.....'

  • @shiningstar737
    @shiningstar737 Рік тому +165

    I’m in a online writing class and we talked about other medias writing we enjoy and I brought up Yoko Taro, recommended playing both NieR;s and WATCHING drakengard 3 as it was intentionally boring to play because Taro’s birthing concept of the story were that it’s weird you get rewarded for killing 100 enemies, what a horrific thing that is and that you should never be rewarded for murder.
    Anyway, one of the other students screamed in excitement that she recently beat the last song. I have never played drakengard 3, I have no intention to play it, but I have watched every single part of it also I’m full convinced that kuroi hana is the toughest boss in history. There’s no cheese, no git gud, no secret, no leveling, no nothing except you at the none existent mercy of a flower taking you through torture for 8 minutes for many hours asking for perfection. I have nothing but huge respect for her and others that completed it

    • @chstens
      @chstens Рік тому +22

      Drakengard 3 is not boring to play, the problem is it runs like shit on PS3. It runs fine if you emulate it though (assuming you have a decent enough computer). Drakengard 1 on the other hand, THAT game is extremely boting to play.

    • @amaterasumaster8781
      @amaterasumaster8781 Рік тому +7

      ​@@chstens and now I am here to say Drakengard 1 isn't boring to play.... to me. I can't really speak for anyone else but after recently beating the entire game for the first time, I loved every second of it, including the Ending E boss fight

    • @chstens
      @chstens Рік тому +9

      @@amaterasumaster8781 That one's a much harder sell, but I'm not going to argue with you. But D3 is at its core a competent action game. Not nearly as good as Automata or the Replicant remake, but it's by no means a bad game.

    • @amaterasumaster8781
      @amaterasumaster8781 Рік тому +2

      @@chstens yea I agree with you all around. Tbh, D3 and MGS 4 are two of the main reasons I never wanted to get a PS3. Most secondhand titles that weren't Sony lag so damn bad it's atrocious

    • @chstens
      @chstens Рік тому +1

      @@amaterasumaster8781 Both games that could really use a re-release

  • @spvvky
    @spvvky Рік тому +50

    After losing my mind I used an assist visual I got to the final phase and spent hours. That being said I think the boss is fitting. Zero ultimately doesn't want to go and every part of her quite literally doesn't want it to allow to happen you have to understand suffering, her suffering. Yes it's ridiculous. But yes it's beautiful.
    Also it was fun watching you lose your mind thanks for that!

  • @futanahriadventures
    @futanahriadventures Рік тому +51

    I know many people who used the video timing guide on youtube (including myself) to sync with this "boss fight", just so you don't get those crappy stages of grief all over again. It's not shameful, it's just a way to avert malding hard.
    Drakengard 3 is probably the only gaming media that pissed me off so badly, be it with horrendous frame drops, repetitive battles and recyled enemies, bland graphics, great content behind DLC (like the sisters' story, II's dlc is still engraved in my mind to this day), sluggish story pace, and this frigging boss battle.
    ...
    ...
    And i remember it fondly, the music, the themes, Zero's fuckery, mikhail's voice, the subvergion of the intoners (specially IV's). This is a masterpiece. A mean one, that i probably can't recommend, but a masterpiece either way.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 9 місяців тому +5

      I think if it got the NieR Replicant treatment, it could be a good game. I personally love the story, Mikhail is a precious bean, and I want to fight this boss even though just hearing the song makes me sweat and I subconsciously tap my finger while I hear it

  • @anameglass1607
    @anameglass1607 Рік тому +43

    To play Yokotaro game is to learn suffering

    • @pankotheseaweed
      @pankotheseaweed 5 місяців тому +2

      both physically and mentally

    • @sansfangirl4life439
      @sansfangirl4life439 4 місяці тому +1

      and to realize that some part of you likes that suffering because 'music is nice' xD

    • @arikoment3560
      @arikoment3560 2 місяці тому

      It's just another way of saying, playing his games is a waste of time because he isn't respectful enough to value YOUR time

  • @gagejoseph91
    @gagejoseph91 9 місяців тому +4

    Yooo, my comment was mentioned in this amazing video!! That's awesome! Great video, man, seriously. I was regularly screaming with laughter. Fantastic comedic timing, and great editing! I'm glad to have gotten a shout out in this!

  • @justj.r.670
    @justj.r.670 Рік тому +76

    I played through Drakengard 3 just last month and beat the the final boss a little over 2 weeks ago.
    Even though the last portion of the fight was BS, I actually loved the boss fight. It was a surreal experience and it’s something I’ll probably never experience again from any other game.

    • @usonohoshi6165
      @usonohoshi6165 Рік тому +14

      It also feels intentional that you have to hit it when Mikhail says "I had fun" as a final FU from Yoko Taro.

  • @cedertrees2425
    @cedertrees2425 Рік тому +9

    I really appreciate that you took the time to add 'feux deaths' into the video to push the point in that you're dying multiple times and forced to restart

  • @tovi3280
    @tovi3280 2 роки тому +105

    9:05 something very odd to note, is that this is true for every phase except phase 2, as can be seen at 7:56, almost all of Five's section (AKA One's melody) lacks the downbeat, usually starting on the first upbeat, idk why that is tho
    also phenomenal vid, only 10 mins in and i'm loving it
    27:04 i'm pretty sure this is the first time they give you sixteenths, and the sound effect is too echoey ngl, that's why the measure with 6 eighths, an eighth rest and then a final eighth fucked me so hard, it's hard to differentiate
    finally, the WORST part of the fight: 33:26 IS the indication. what is truly the CARDINAL FUCKING SIN is that the timing is actually INCORRECT??? WHAT THE FUCK??? THE FINAL TRICK IS THAT RHYTHM ISNT RELEVANT? ITS FINE THAT IT HAS A NOTE THERE, BUT GETTING IT CORRECT GIVES YOU A PENALTY??? THATS BS
    46:18 personally the way i interpret this part is because no matter what, One always put the world ahead of herself, others, and her sisters,. everything was for the cause of figuring out her and her sisters' relationship with the world, how they came to be, ending Zero so she doesn't bring ruin, so the camera pans away from her, Zero, and the Flower itself to show One's grander ideals. additionally, Three's section zooming in on herself is reflective of how she literally cares about nothing other than herself, not in a selfish way, but to the point where the way she speaks and governs is all about just entertaining herself
    alright, just finished watching the vid, marry me now
    edit: holy shit what was i yapping about

    • @nerothesky
      @nerothesky  2 роки тому +26

      7:56 I should've noticed that. I guess the devs felt it was fair play since the tempo's still quite slow.
      32:26 Literally the most disrespectful thing I've experienced in a game. You know the devs were giggling while making it.
      46:18 Since writing the script I've read the manga and got a better idea of One's character. I like your interpretation, I think it' s pretty spot on.

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 2 роки тому +4

      @@nerothesky woahhh thx for the response, i don't think i'll ever figure out why they made Five's section that wonky but you're right it's still slow so **it's not that bad**

    • @AngelusArgentum
      @AngelusArgentum 2 роки тому

      @@nerothesky Where can I read the manga?

    • @nerothesky
      @nerothesky  2 роки тому +9

      @@AngelusArgentum Google "read dragon dragoon otahime five" and you should find it

    • @RosaRaveP
      @RosaRaveP 9 місяців тому +3

      The final trick feels a bit more relevant to the story than it does to the song, like there's a specific reason it's placed where it is, but there's still the thing of like "how the hell was I supposed to know that"

  • @CoconutChriss
    @CoconutChriss Рік тому +28

    The script and the editing of this video are just brilliant. On point and funny all the time. I take my hat off to your work.

  • @bethroth7623
    @bethroth7623 Рік тому +50

    Something I just noticed today, is that each Intoner’s boss fight ost has a portion of lyrics coinciding with their phase.
    For example, Three’s boss fight ost has the same lyrics as the lyrics during her section of this fight.
    Just thought it was interesting.

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 10 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, the final song is actually a mix of every sister's song, though they don't play in order, One's song plays in Five's part, for example

  • @Naterkix
    @Naterkix Рік тому +65

    "You weren't gonna play it anyway." Oh no, I already did. I suffered, swore, almost broke a controller for the first time and came up with a classification of game bosses that are really, _really_ hard and seem like the devs are trolling you, the Incarnation of Shenanigans. Did I go a little crazy? Probably. Nyehhehheh.
    It was great.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 10 місяців тому +2

      Maybe if it gets the deserved NieR Replicant treatment, more people could play it

    • @Saltedcoil
      @Saltedcoil 3 місяці тому

      Hanatarashh fan spotted.

  • @drgskates
    @drgskates Рік тому +15

    I have to say, you do a great job of conveying the level of insanity this fight drives a person to.
    I may be laughing, but it's more that I'm laughing to keep from crying. Fantastic video, and I finally understand the yoko taro fans losing their minds in the ffxiv nier raids

  • @zigludosama
    @zigludosama 3 місяці тому +4

    I played through Drakengard 3 a few weeks ago but only managed to beat the Final Song a couple days ago. Needless to say, Drakengard 3 is one of the games of all time, as well as one of my favorite games. It's kinda bad, but nowhere else has a piece of art challenged my conceptions about art so aggressively before, and the Final Song encapsulates that feeling more than anything. Even going in with a wealth of premeditated knowledge and listening to the song over and over again, it still took me weeks of building courage to even attempt the boss, and I still died to the final note once.
    Other cool touches I noticed about the fight:
    -I love how visually and sonically, the boss is basically a manifestation of conventionally beautiful art. Interpretive dance, nudity in art, and multi-piece musical movements are all things that in their respective mediums epitomize beauty, which makes the reality of the boss sting that much more.
    -I think One's camera trick is less to do with "looking for answers" and more deliberately unrestrained to contrast the first phase. While the Intoner sisters are often portrayed as a quintet, One and Zero sort of exist as their own dyad. Even aside from promotional art depicting them in opposition to one another, Zero and One are opposites in every way. Zero embodies her sisters' worst aspects while One embodies their best. This also works thematically with the fight being binary, literally 0 and 1, perfection or failure. One's camera trick reflects her opposition to Zero.
    -One's camera trick could also be that she's looking out for the Intoners, which explains why the camera moves around the screen and sort of "examines" each of them. She's the leader of the quintet who meticulously keeps track and takes care of her sisters. This is also corroborated by One asking her dragon to monitor her sisters, which might be why the camera gets all fuckywucky in this phase. Might be a reach but it would be funny if this was a meta joke at how evil the camera is in this series, especially during dragon missions.
    -It's been mentioned before, but the sisters sing each others' songs except Two and Zero. People theorize that the sisters sing the song of a sister who contrasts part of their personality in some way (e.g. Four (virgin) sings Five's (slut) song). It would make sense then that Zero and Two would sing their own songs, because the two of them are the most internally conflicted of the sisters, Two with her overwhelming kindness and naivete and Zero with her cruelty and cynicism.
    I'm just impressed with how much deliberation there is, not just in this fight, but in this game. That's Yoko Taro's biggest strength and weakness as a creative. He's a brilliant visionary who makes everything with the utmost intent, and if we have to suffer to experience that vision, then so be it.

  • @EspyMelly
    @EspyMelly 2 місяці тому +6

    Yoko Taro probably saw people losing their shit with this section and did nothing but giggle to himself like the freaking gremlin he is. Even in the FFXIV/Nier collab content he'd continuously pester the devs to make the fights harder or add more bullets until they had to tell him their literal engine couldn't handle that shit and he needed to chill lol.
    I'd love to know how this man kept getting his ideas made despite all the nonsense he put people through, even before the success of Nier:Automata.

  • @libb_y
    @libb_y 4 дні тому +1

    very late to the party but, man, this video rules. amazing structure, pacing, storytelling, and funny as hell

  • @7ChaosTheory
    @7ChaosTheory Рік тому +126

    Yes, 2/10 is the rating that it deserves.
    It was insane that the entire game mechanics in this part went totally against you. It literally defied your instincts and anticipation.
    As a fellow masochist myself, this...is...art.
    Thank you, Yoko Taro. 🙏

  • @digitalhauntology
    @digitalhauntology Рік тому +42

    I cannot imagine a better ending to a game.
    It came by surprise, it hated me for trying, it took a week to finish it (I struggled), but everything that comes at it’s conclusion…
    So worth it.
    Drakengard 3 is my favorite game of all time.
    Even if I understand that it is objectively a bad game.
    I love it so much

    • @phamdung3884
      @phamdung3884 Рік тому +6

      You dropped this 👑

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 9 місяців тому +1

      It needs the NieR Replicant treatment

  • @usonohoshi6165
    @usonohoshi6165 Рік тому +104

    When you realize THIS is how they make you feel why a flower... A FLOWER... Is the most EVIL thing in this universe.
    It never speaks. It never moves. But this tells you EVEYTHING about it. And makes you understand why Zero HATES it SO MUCH.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 10 місяців тому +21

      People think Flowey is the meanest flower in existence?
      *hands them my drink*
      Let me tell you about Drakengard 3.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean Рік тому +45

    Yoko Taro is a terrible person. Just, the worst. That final note isn't just unfair, it's sadistic.

    • @JabamiLain
      @JabamiLain Рік тому +13

      That's what makes him the best.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 9 місяців тому +12

      He makes Kojima and Suda51 look sane by comparison. And that’s why he’s an amazing game creator

  • @sasaki999pro
    @sasaki999pro 2 роки тому +245

    Some of the things I've seen with Yoko Taro regarding the FFIV Nier Crossover has convinced me that his nature isn't just being a "troll" but actually a sadistic A-Hole
    Some interviews suggested he wanted to wipe entire raid parties out if one player takes even a single hit of damage, where some accounts say he even wanted to make players delete their own characters... on an MMORPG.
    Thank god the Devs at FF14 rightfully reigned in his sociopathic lunacy.

    • @Pink5G
      @Pink5G Рік тому

      To be entirely fair, he's always been crass and sarcastic when speaking publicly in interviews or such, but after Automata, he's played up being a dick for laughs, I've been heavily invested in these games since the PS2, I love reading any interview he's done, I look into his non-Drakenier content (Yorha as an idol group was completely unrelated to Nier to start! He just wanted to take a hand at Idol media, and used the group to record DoD3's boss themes, but everything about their backstory was set even 2 years before DoD3, giving them the story that would end up being the basis the future Nier sequel would adapt into Drakenier's lore), and he's definitely been exaggerating more since Automata's success and his newfound notoriety, it's pretty obvious too, the XIV devs aren't reigning him in, they're laughing with him because they know it's a bit

    • @ThatGuyNikolas
      @ThatGuyNikolas Рік тому +60

      Tackled him to the ground more likely...

    • @sasaki999pro
      @sasaki999pro Рік тому +30

      @@Zenos174 WELL Considering Yoko Taro is currently working with Sega now on a mobile game project set in a world where Sega itself is LITERALLY the evil corporate villain of the games narrative. I'm now FULLY convinced that there is no artistic intent and Taro is just a cantankerous jackass thats drunk with George Lucas levels of power and is just seeing how much he can get away with before someone finally stops him.

    • @KaedeLanyo
      @KaedeLanyo Рік тому +3

      @@Zenos174 Why not?

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean Рік тому

      You are correct. He is a sadistic ahole.

  • @jeremyanderson1896
    @jeremyanderson1896 Рік тому +13

    I always saw this boss as a either bad game design or really bad glitches, but this video showed me that the boss was actually INTENTIONAL bad game design, and now I can't see the boss as anything else but art. Amazing video!

  • @dowsingelf77
    @dowsingelf77 Рік тому +39

    I heard "EHHH MACARENA!" and died laughing 😂 This was an honestly great breakdown of this fight.
    Also telling how the song is basically about destroying every living thing...

  • @B_B_
    @B_B_ 3 місяці тому +2

    i've rewatched this video like five times now. your analysis is super entertaining, funny and interesting. definitely glad i found this video

  • @scarlettptheoriginal
    @scarlettptheoriginal Рік тому +7

    I've lost track of how often I've watched this video. It's such an intelligent, thorough, and hilarious analysis of the boss fight and the feelings it evokes in the player. The boss fight might be 2/10 but this video is 10/10

  • @AngelusArgentum
    @AngelusArgentum 2 роки тому +27

    Yo this video is fucking awesome. I laughed so hard watching it. Personally the best one about this topic I've seen.
    Last night I was thinking about watching the video and that maybe it would be funny only in the beggining but you destroyed expectations, what a fucking great job.
    Definitely going to watch any other thing you upload

    • @nerothesky
      @nerothesky  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

  • @0yuuyake0
    @0yuuyake0 2 роки тому +44

    This is a really good video, very accurate showcasing the suffering, anger, denial, and the salt that this boss fight produces.
    I myself have sunk about 3 hours into it so far, the first spot that I have trouble with is the second and third notes Four sends out, because they don't seem to go with the beat very well so I have to visually guess with them.
    The second spot I get stuck is the last note Three sends out, I have trouble with the timing of it but I know the song goes "Ahhhhh" at the correct point, but you have to be pressing the button before hearing that basically.
    Once I overcome those two problem areas I am able to get to One easily and sometimes I lose doing misclicks because the notes fly out so fast and she does doubles quickly. But what really does me in is all of the girls together at the end, it's just soooo fast I can't press the button fast enough lol. Closing my eyes did nothing to help, it actually made me zone out and stop paying attention.

    • @nerothesky
      @nerothesky  2 роки тому +6

      I found pressing the bumpers for fast parts helpful. Something I've also heard suggested is alternating between the two bumpers. This should help you click a lot faster. I have faith you'll beat this.

  • @arikoment3560
    @arikoment3560 2 місяці тому +2

    28:24 This scenario was basically the embodiment of the game, "I Wanna be the Guy" from a decade and a half earlier.

  • @lnx648
    @lnx648 2 роки тому +9

    Clicked on the link from reddit, thought it would be 10 minutes long but ended up blasting through all 40+ minutes of it without even realizing.
    Completely relatable, 100%. However, I was less patient and just synched up a video with the notes to do it. I still love the game thought, much respect to who did it legit or more legit than I did it anyway.
    Great video by the way!

  • @watashiwamosura
    @watashiwamosura Рік тому +18

    I've been stuck on the final phase for over a week now, I've hit the acceptance phase. This is my purgatory, I live here now.

  • @JoaquinVH
    @JoaquinVH 3 місяці тому +4

    Me, 47 minutes ago: Why does this video takes so long?
    Me, now: oh

  • @mrbemystar
    @mrbemystar Рік тому +15

    I always interpreted this final boss fight as the flower's last desperate hurrah. It spited Zero, when she tried to pull it out of her eye, after trying to kill herself over and over and being revived by the flower, as a "fuck you" to her, it created the clones that became the intoners. This final fight is one last "fuck you" to the dragons trying to end this world ending menace. Zero was caught off guard when it happened, the flower monster does not play fair. So this final boss, is as such. It does not play fair, all that combat experience you have, meaningless. But you will destroy this calamity. It knows it, and it will do everything it can and by warping reality it hopes to destroy the world and you with it in a way you are not prepared for, thus the rhythm boss.

  • @drcaligaridane
    @drcaligaridane 4 місяці тому +4

    This boss causes so much PTSD I remember all the exact timing of the notes and just tap my feet automatically. Genius.

  • @haputhegnome3891
    @haputhegnome3891 6 місяців тому +6

    "That cloud looks like a loser"
    Breaks me every time 🤣

  • @cdm966
    @cdm966 Рік тому +10

    I legit love this boss with every ounce of my being. I felt frustrated and tense the whole time, and when it was finally over and it's just silent, and you're watching the flower break down and Accord starts narrating, I felt so, *so* empty. And then of course "This Silence is Mine" starts playing and I just absolutely break; I'm a mess and I'm just sobbing--I don't even know if I'm sad or just overwhelmed and emotionally distraught--but I'm just sitting through the credits and ugly crying.
    I've never had anything close to that experience ever again, and I think it's why I feel so emotionally attached to this game when I look back on it. Zero is still one of my favorite Yoko Taro characters ever, and killing her was hard both emotionally and mechanically.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 9 місяців тому

      Especially since ur playing as the precious bean of a dragon while doing it.
      Seriously, I adore Mikhail. If I had to rank the male characters who stick with the protagonist, he’d be number 1, followed by Emile from NieR Replicant and then 9S from NieR Automata

  • @OnigoroshiZero
    @OnigoroshiZero Рік тому +94

    Yoko Taro is the greatest genius both as a director and writer that has worked in the gaming industry, no one can even come close to his insane mind.

    • @MelonTartVA
      @MelonTartVA 10 місяців тому +1

      Oh yeah. He makes Kojima and Suda51 look sane by comparison.

    • @Mushin367
      @Mushin367 9 місяців тому +2

      @@MelonTartVAKojima is a better game creator.

    • @BlazefireSaber
      @BlazefireSaber 6 місяців тому +4

      It's time to stop idolizing and fetishizing creators like that. Many people besides the directors who work on these kind of games bring ideas forth all of the time, but the director is the one who gives the "go ahead". Suda, Kojima and Taro sure are different in their wacky concepts and creativity, but let's not forget what made them great in the first place: the entire team behind the development of the games.

    • @edorasmarauder5761
      @edorasmarauder5761 2 місяці тому

      You underestimate humanity's insanity.

    • @mee7er
      @mee7er 9 днів тому

      You can do both. When you see a creator’s body of work and see a very consistent style and through-line they clearly have a strong creative voice that is being used executed upon by a talented team.

  • @wt4787
    @wt4787 11 днів тому +1

    been watching this over and over, mygod it gets funny everytime

  • @a_lethe_ion
    @a_lethe_ion 5 місяців тому +3

    THAT LAST FUCKING NOTE! THAT GODDAMN LAST OTHERF NOTE
    also a boss you can fight the best when you arent looking at the screen. Like I found the visuals distracting so listening with closed eyes actually helped getting further

  • @SomehowCreative
    @SomehowCreative Рік тому +2

    That was a fantastic video all the way through. I got super excited...and a bit anxious while listening but it was super entertaining

  • @Xehanort107
    @Xehanort107 6 місяців тому +2

    I always loved the discordant intro to the song, where it's seemingly arbitrary rhythms mushed together until it suddenly becomes a beautiful melody.
    Watching this and learning that the fight actually has rhyme and reason to every phase. I have no choice but to deem this the absolute pinnacle of boss design. Even if it's the biggest troll in all of gaming, it's art in its purest form. I can only aspire to even think of something this insanely beautiful.
    Someone's going to argue the lack of fun, but video games are just a form of media, and not all media is intended to be tangible to the average reader. This boss is an abstract masterpiece, and I will die on this hill that Black Song, White Scales is nonpareil.

  • @ostrichlord9097
    @ostrichlord9097 Рік тому +6

    Bro just dropped the craziest pitch for a final boss design ever and thought it wouldn’t get greenlit lmao - Some dude at Squareenix watching this video

  • @darshio8307
    @darshio8307 Рік тому +2

    I love how something as simple as the movement of the camera leads to many creative ways to set difficulty

  • @bluepheonixsoul1553
    @bluepheonixsoul1553 Рік тому +15

    Watching the video seven times in solidarity with people who had to actually play it.

  • @Schregger
    @Schregger 3 місяці тому +3

    This is actually a perfect6 encapsulation of war games final message, "Perhaps the smartest move, is not to play..."
    I have not played the Drakengard games, and have no intention to do so. Specially this one.

  • @Adam_Zielinski
    @Adam_Zielinski Рік тому +4

    I love this video. You narrated it so authentically I was hysterically Joker laughing at just thinking about it while also thinking of the Hours I spent on weird OSU maps

  • @KATinBLACK
    @KATinBLACK 7 місяців тому +6

    You say, who would do this again? I would. I did. I AM that psychopath. Every couple years I would practice again, totally blind, so I don’t get rusty. Each time, it takes far less time than that first sweaty, sleepless night I spent trying to beat it. I’ve been holding out hope for a DOD3 remaster, so I need my body to be literally ready for this fight again. I’m still praying

  • @Gabrielnfs
    @Gabrielnfs Рік тому +7

    This is one of the best bosses in video game history and nothing will convince me otherwise

  • @PrimeBox
    @PrimeBox Рік тому +4

    This may be one of my favorite videos on UA-cam lol. Incredible job

  • @bookwyrmofthenorth
    @bookwyrmofthenorth 3 місяці тому +2

    I have never fought this boss. I'm losing my shit. Thank you for posting this

  • @americanfootball8194
    @americanfootball8194 Рік тому +5

    Great video but i do have to disagree with the statement at 27:04 i believe the issue is moreso lag from the game and not the sound design exactly. When i played it i heard the two notes on the first time i tried that section. Drakengard 3 can be kinda weird with how it runs based on resolution (especially in this fight) so if you were playing at 1080p it's likely it was the lag. I was playing at 720p for my attempts

  • @PaladZerkGamerGF
    @PaladZerkGamerGF Рік тому +5

    Wow, actual amazing video, Hope your channel grows a lot

  • @Shockocksthegreat
    @Shockocksthegreat Рік тому +28

    It only took me 3 tries. And 35k in debt for a percussion degree.
    1st death was on that first zoom you mentioned because even with the rhythmic confidence, it still makes you second guess yourself. Second death was after the screen went black because it's literally impossible without prior knowledge. 3rd time I got it. The worst part with the last hit, is that it is the only one not to follow the pattern. Even as slow as it is, instead of mirroring the exact rhythm on the beat, it hits on the third 16th note of the third beat.

    • @a_lethe_ion
      @a_lethe_ion 5 місяців тому +2

      i know someone who beat it by looking at the wall. just following the rhythm

    • @siriuslywastaken
      @siriuslywastaken 3 місяці тому +2

      the final note actually disregards rhythm in favor of theme. the entire fight, you, as mikhail, can only _respond_ to the intoners' song, deflecting their voices as they come to you.
      the final note happens when mikhail responds to zero after she speaks. the boss is a conversation, talking things out like mikhail always wanted. it's a thematic masterpiece.

  • @TheBlueLink3
    @TheBlueLink3 Рік тому +1

    This was a great analysis with great editing and humor. Good job!

  • @Visionism
    @Visionism Рік тому +6

    You absolutely do get the proper cue for that last note. You just have to never stop counting. Which you don't because the fight has already shown you its going to be a jerk.

  • @dyingmoonshine
    @dyingmoonshine Рік тому +8

    All of that plus Mikhail's annoying screams as he dies

  • @StofenThe1st
    @StofenThe1st Рік тому +3

    It’s nice to know that I’m not the only one that needed some “assistance” for that final gut punch at the end. Although I imagine you probably didn’t spend a literal week before going to that video like me…

  • @WutipongWongsakuldej
    @WutipongWongsakuldej 7 місяців тому +4

    Somehow I want to see this kind of rhythm game on "dance of eternity", where even the band couldn't agree on what time signature on a certain measure is.

  • @neatguy5442
    @neatguy5442 Рік тому +3

    Is no one going to mention the fact he said “it’s ass but I’m going to eat it” it’s the wildest line I’ve ever heard

  • @renoir2616
    @renoir2616 Рік тому +3

    every time I heard the vocal I got a shiver, it was beautiful but also traumatizing

  • @yxbxi
    @yxbxi Рік тому +6

    fantastic video, im currently struggling on the hardest rythm but im sure as hell gonna make it and thank god i already know when to press for the last note lmao

  • @tanya-789
    @tanya-789 Рік тому +6

    This game... man. It's not a game. It's an experience, and not a pleasant one. And it knows it. The game knows that it's not pleasant. Fucking Yoko Taro. Fuck him. Love this man.

  • @MrsWhiterock
    @MrsWhiterock 10 місяців тому

    Having seen the boss fight so many times before watching this video I was just so anticipating of your reactions to the growing absurdity of the fight!

  • @gustavod.4795
    @gustavod.4795 Рік тому +7

    This is hilarious. Hilarious as in I felt the pain when going through this

  • @heehomgee4671
    @heehomgee4671 Рік тому +18

    Usually I clean out my watch later list on UA-cam by essentially treating videos like podcasts and just playing games, and today I decided to play A Hat in Time. Specifically, it's Death Wish stages (The hardest challenges it throws at you), and felt almost called out with throwing myself at a wall despite the difficulty being on completely different levels. So I kept playing and listening, because hey I like video essays!
    But the thing is, I was here for around an hour. I was under the assumption that part of the message of the video would be to throw the exact same video at me again with slight differences, and force the viewer to watch the entire video again to find it all for no apparent reason but to reinforce the boss's message.
    I looped the video.

  • @Thetiredpotato11
    @Thetiredpotato11 3 місяці тому +3

    Something to note is that taro has explained his development ideas in interviews, his goal is to evoke specific feelings and works backwards from there. This boss isn’t fair on purpose, mikhail losing the only person in his life isn’t fair. This boss is meant to make you feel mikhail’s suffering, his loss, his anger, and his hopelessness. If you can get through it all, you find peace and find yourself not complete, but accepting of what you’ve gone through, just as mikhail did

  • @Veritanky
    @Veritanky 5 днів тому

    Watched this video with my mates while we had lunch and in moment when you said that you can't do it with eyes covered because you're scared 2 of my mates said "skill issue" at same time.
    Well done for defeating it!

  • @Bubzia
    @Bubzia 3 місяці тому +1

    Amazing video my friend

  • @Lillymu961
    @Lillymu961 10 місяців тому +1

    I could never get past One on this boss, and I applaud everyone that has actually beaten this last, cruel, and beautiful boss fight. When I played this game last year, I had to give up, mainly because I didn't have the time to sink into really learning One's phase and I still value what's left of my sanity. Only got past it once, died, kept trying but kept dying in the same spot in One's phase. I understand now why Zero hated her so. This video is one I watched before playing the game, but after experiencing the madness myself...yeah this is ten times funnier. I understand the agony. I couldn't overcome it in that playthrough. Good for you that you beat it and thanks for sharing that experience. :) Best wishes and God bless you.

  • @Kenshiro3rd
    @Kenshiro3rd 3 місяці тому +4

    PRO TIP: Easiest way to beat this boss is to close your eyes and play it by ear. Not kidding. The visuals are nothing but a distraction. Just close your eyes, ignore the visuals entirely... and replicate the rhythm you hear in time with the tempo... then press it one last time as soon as you hear Mikhail say "I" when playing in English (or "Boku" in japanese). Simple as that.

  • @bakto2122
    @bakto2122 4 місяці тому

    Damn, loved the video. Really makes you relive the experience. Also respect for beating it. I played on an emulator, so I could skip at least the intro animation, took me probably 16 hours and barely got to the last phase. After that I finally pulled out one of those rhythm guide videos, and it still took me like 5 attempts to beet it completely...

  • @ArispeMatt
    @ArispeMatt 2 роки тому +8

    I've compared Drak1 and Drak3's final fights as being a sprint through hell versus a hellish marathon. Still like 1's final boss more than 2's. Haven't 100%ed 3, though I'd still say that.
    Also, One's thing was that her sensed were ever growing.

  • @kisekae13
    @kisekae13 Рік тому +5

    So, basically, the cameraman is the true final boss

    • @MimikyuFan89
      @MimikyuFan89 10 місяців тому +1

      Yup. But that's nothing new in video games 😂

  • @ShikiRyougi05
    @ShikiRyougi05 2 роки тому +2

    What an AMAZING video!!