It was cool to see how quick Ed improved and picked up on the rhythms of CC and general game sense. The last game was such a massive improvement from the first. Hope you keep doing these.
yo Ed, go to settings>interface>nameplate motion type>stacking nameplates. This will help you see nameplates much easier when it comes to totems and what not.
And unless you’re a healer. You’ll never need to touch them after that. If you play everything like me, then you could make keybinds to toggle (friendly) and toggle (enemy) nameplates.
Good work Edward. I like your mindset so far, "plus experience" is the perfect way to think about it and we let the rating come as it may (and it will come baby boy).
Kudos for actually having the balls to post this. It gotta be stressful af having multi rank 1 player in your ear and watching you lol. Practice makes perfect, gotta get that muscle memory and you'll be gucci!
My take on this.... regarding healers specifically, a LOT of healers in 1300ish range are people who just re-rolled or changed specs and are still learning, or are just bad. There are so few healers that the DPS players get stuck there due to the healers being inexperienced, not able to keep up with the crazy damage melee is cranking out right now. Even good DPS players will get stuck there for a while. Randomly you get a GOOD healer and go 5-1 or something and make some progress, and some people playing FOTM classes just get lucky and bounce right past it with a 4-5 good solid games. It certainly doesn't help that you lose more in one loss than you gain in two good runs generally unless you're going 6-0, its usually 4-2, so you just climb slow as hell and get smacked back down. For me, prob 60% of my games go 3-3, which to me is an obvious sign of one healer clearly being better than the other. For context, I main a shadow priest now but I played my disc to 1700-ish in SS and 3s before. Not great, I admit, my main problem is that I struggle with crazy CCs this meta, but I definitely feel the elo hell.
I can't express how much i enjoyed this. I have never been so in someone's corner as I was in Ed's. I was rooting for you every match my friend. i can't believe this wasn't recommended to me sooner!
My favorite moment was at 40:57 when the warrior tried to stay in dome and Ed tried to pull him out of dome Except Ed’s healer was the disc priest and the warrior’s was a holy priest. Lmao
Road map (if this does well) 1. Make a series out of this with Ed but also do videos with different rogue players of various skill levels. 2. Get your teammates to do these types of videos too. A sudden burst of uploads of similar content might catch on to my good friend Al Gorithm. 3. Get your teammates to do a coaching session all together with a 3s team. The people you are coaching play a game and then you vod review or just talk about it immediately after each game. Live coaching with 6 people in a call sounds like hell so probably not that one (Many other ways to approach this idea tho). 4. You get your team that you coached to face off against another groups coached team and have proxy wars. Now only if this type of content does well will this work, because you need it to be popular enough for other people to steal and create their own teams. And you might ask, “why tf aren’t we just playing the game ourselves against that other team?” And to that point, I couldn’t think of anything other the banner of “educational content” which has a lot of pros and cons with it… which I will now list lol Pros 1. Helps grow the PvP section of WoW. This has got to be one of the best reasons to do these types of videos. Watching someone just jump into the class head first proves that other people can do it too. 2. Easy to produce this type of content, but hard to keep it consistently entertaining. Cons 1. Vibe check. People will definitely come to the stream thinking it’s more educational friendly and sometimes that’s just not that kinda vibe that day. 2. Sounds boring as shit. If the person you are coaching is timid/nervous, it’ll be harder to make videos out of that and you probably won’t be able to use each session for the youtubes. So that means you have to do it more, so you get to play less. Might be good if your carpal tunnel is acting up tho. Last couple thoughts A different kind of game experience from your side. Thinking much more on the macro side for more experienced players when it’s more rotational fixes and basic cc instructions for newer players. Would be very cool to see those higher rated coaching lessons from a viewers prospective. Ty for reading, If you couldn’t tell, I was fried when making this. I had nothing better to do at 1am and am now sleepy after writing this. Zzz
Ive been a fan ever since my friend that i had gotten into wow a month prior and I faced you in the arena during shadowlands, now we support the move all the way baby.
After colossus smash, he definitely needs to disarm the warrior, right before Bladestorm because while colossus smash is active, he will hit 2 random mortal strikes with bladestorm. You need to reduce the duration of colossus smash with disarm.
I think you should teach him Sub. With Bomb and duel and his play improve, he can easily get to 1800. Kidney healer, cheap kill target blade dance symbol septic secret tech duel goremaw bite cheap evis cheap evis. Outlaw just dont have that damage to secure the kill by himself. But after 1800 is different story. You should tell him to use fient more often. Fient the bladestorm. Fient anything that Aoe esp when you low.
last season i leveled my druid and i havent pvped on him much so my mmr was like 1500. im telling you, i joined so many tanks shuffle. it was legit ELO HELL
I play this rank as mage, it's tough. Not because I suck but because of my teammates just dying. I have to peel attention off of doing damage to constantly peel people off my healer or 3rd. It actually got easier the higher rank I got
Live coaching probably isnt the best when you are that new to the game lol! instead, start giving him tips on things to get better on, and when he gets all his keybinds down and focus macros, it will be easier for him to get live coached
Disable minion nameplates and healthbars. Go to settings and change Tab to target nearest enemy player instead of target nearest enemy. These things changed my life when i was struggling. I think you are doing great. Unfortunate games, but great content nonetheless! Keep up the good work!
so yeah. getting out of 1400 crab bucket. it's actually legit. ofcourse when you're pika and played rogue entire life, it's easy cause you got the skillz, the damage, the cc and can pull it all off. but the cookie cutter to get out of 1400 to 1800. is max out cleave damage, for most part. just the way lobbies work. this is why unholy dps is so good, this is why DH so good. this is why warrior so good. you can deal away without even throwing a CC. just dps
do add, im 1800 average andie, i do mogs for classes i want set from and that's it. i have yet to get a rogue mog. the damage, isnt there. to get out of 1400, you need to be good with CC and have this gut feeling when, to use your bomb or duel to win the round. all lobbies i saw with rogues and as a rogue, rogues are usually lowest dps. and those that win, are the ones that can secure a kill. this made me abandon rogue. rogue i loved all these years and got 2000 on in BFA season 1. blizz realized that if rogue have their old damage and the cc they have. they are too op. so they quietly nerfed damage in pvp at least, to force them into being cc kings. unfortunately 80% of players can't pull out good, timely cc.
i think assa and outlaw are fine atm. you can still go 1800+ with correct dps rotation and using CC in between DRs. it's just harder for sub with the latest patch.
if you compare Assa today, to Assa in season 1 BFA. today's Assa is straight @$$. meanwhile both expansions it plays exactly the same with same rotation. @@Vexmancer
I am sitting at mid 1300"s i tell ya the lobbys in solo you get either 1400+ rated or 0 rated and super lazy healers who blame dps , i play a range squishy MM so i play around my healer using los a lot of the time, but it is crazy at that rating people learning and people having so much agro at players, i will note usually healers saying that came across a group of 6 players and we all just supported each other lol funny as heck, we all need to learn, but i have no idea how to get out of it lol, a lot of fun though and totally insane, i have been playing this game for 17 err almost 18 years now and only this ex pac i tried my hand at pvp and the abuse lol lucky i am a old bloke so water off of a ducks back :) err not to sure what my point was here but hey it is all good right ???
mann that would be tough to have one of the worlds best rogues trying to tell you how to play. But deffently would be cool and could learn alot . . lol Pika could charge for this 😅
Gawd to understand Wow like you guys do. I love pvp hell i play smite everyday just for this lol. But your build seems to be everything unlesss your team skilll is there
It was cool to see how quick Ed improved and picked up on the rhythms of CC and general game sense. The last game was such a massive improvement from the first. Hope you keep doing these.
i mean he has arguably one of the best rogues on retail coaching, i think something like this would cost a mere mortal thousands haha
Ed "That's as clean as it gets" the Editor. Has a good ring to it.
20:29 "Nobody says a word to that guy." got me good 😂😂😂
this was so fun to watch. you guys have nice chemistry and pika's actually such a good coach. I will watch every one of these yall upload
Dude the car noise after the guy lives on 39 hp lmao
It's a motorcycle. An inline 4 like a crotch rocket.
LOL shit was so funny
yo Ed, go to settings>interface>nameplate motion type>stacking nameplates. This will help you see nameplates much easier when it comes to totems and what not.
Holy shit I needed this and I didn't even know it......
Also turn on “larger nameplates” and “always show nameplates”
And unless you’re a healer. You’ll never need to touch them after that. If you play everything like me, then you could make keybinds to toggle (friendly) and toggle (enemy) nameplates.
@@Grimlocked got you fam
This series is actually amazing - Please bring more! I liked the live coaching as well as the retrospective coaching
more of these please, this was fun
39:27 " I mean that was... That was what im TALKING ABOUT "
HAHAHAHAHA
Seeing the lights click in Ed's head when he got the strat down was gold, reminds me of when I started rated. GGs boys.
yoo Ed having a feature with voice is insane, ive never watched a youtuber which editor i care for
Good work Edward. I like your mindset so far, "plus experience" is the perfect way to think about it and we let the rating come as it may (and it will come baby boy).
the vanish noise is amazing.
Who was that???😹
Really enjoyed this video and the longer format super helpful and entertaining.
Kudos for actually having the balls to post this. It gotta be stressful af having multi rank 1 player in your ear and watching you lol. Practice makes perfect, gotta get that muscle memory and you'll be gucci!
really enjoyed this video style....do more of these!!
My take on this.... regarding healers specifically, a LOT of healers in 1300ish range are people who just re-rolled or changed specs and are still learning, or are just bad. There are so few healers that the DPS players get stuck there due to the healers being inexperienced, not able to keep up with the crazy damage melee is cranking out right now. Even good DPS players will get stuck there for a while. Randomly you get a GOOD healer and go 5-1 or something and make some progress, and some people playing FOTM classes just get lucky and bounce right past it with a 4-5 good solid games. It certainly doesn't help that you lose more in one loss than you gain in two good runs generally unless you're going 6-0, its usually 4-2, so you just climb slow as hell and get smacked back down. For me, prob 60% of my games go 3-3, which to me is an obvious sign of one healer clearly being better than the other.
For context, I main a shadow priest now but I played my disc to 1700-ish in SS and 3s before. Not great, I admit, my main problem is that I struggle with crazy CCs this meta, but I definitely feel the elo hell.
I can't express how much i enjoyed this. I have never been so in someone's corner as I was in Ed's. I was rooting for you every match my friend. i can't believe this wasn't recommended to me sooner!
My favorite moment was at 40:57 when the warrior tried to stay in dome and Ed tried to pull him out of dome
Except Ed’s healer was the disc priest and the warrior’s was a holy priest. Lmao
1st week on rogue and already doing pika levels of dam, Ed is goated 🗿
Road map (if this does well)
1. Make a series out of this with Ed but also do videos with different rogue players of various skill levels.
2. Get your teammates to do these types of videos too. A sudden burst of uploads of similar content might catch on to my good friend Al Gorithm.
3. Get your teammates to do a coaching session all together with a 3s team. The people you are coaching play a game and then you vod review or just talk about it immediately after each game. Live coaching with 6 people in a call sounds like hell so probably not that one (Many other ways to approach this idea tho).
4. You get your team that you coached to face off against another groups coached team and have proxy wars. Now only if this type of content does well will this work, because you need it to be popular enough for other people to steal and create their own teams. And you might ask, “why tf aren’t we just playing the game ourselves against that other team?” And to that point, I couldn’t think of anything other the banner of “educational content” which has a lot of pros and cons with it… which I will now list lol
Pros
1. Helps grow the PvP section of WoW. This has got to be one of the best reasons to do these types of videos. Watching someone just jump into the class head first proves that other people can do it too.
2. Easy to produce this type of content, but hard to keep it consistently entertaining.
Cons
1. Vibe check. People will definitely come to the stream thinking it’s more educational friendly and sometimes that’s just not that kinda vibe that day.
2. Sounds boring as shit. If the person you are coaching is timid/nervous, it’ll be harder to make videos out of that and you probably won’t be able to use each session for the youtubes.
So that means you have to do it more, so you get to play less. Might be good if your carpal tunnel is acting up tho.
Last couple thoughts
A different kind of game experience from your side. Thinking much more on the macro side for more experienced players when it’s more rotational fixes and basic cc instructions for newer players. Would be very cool to see those higher rated coaching lessons from a viewers prospective.
Ty for reading, If you couldn’t tell, I was fried when making this. I had nothing better to do at 1am and am now sleepy after writing this. Zzz
The fact aht you onbly started rogue a week ago and already doing all this is amazing ur doing really well
what is the add on that he has in top middle of a screen that notifies enemy's burst? (like beast of wrath, etc)
"this is painful to watch back" come on dude, that's how you learn. keep ya head up!
Ive been a fan ever since my friend that i had gotten into wow a month prior and I faced you in the arena during shadowlands, now we support the move all the way baby.
Big improvement just in this one video alone - keep it up, dude!
lmao, I have gotten a few double prot paladin lobbies a while ago, I always wondered how that happened XD
Prot pally can play only with another prot pally
More, please! We're invested now! And it's pretty great for learning too! Go Ed!!! 💪
After colossus smash, he definitely needs to disarm the warrior, right before Bladestorm because while colossus smash is active, he will hit 2 random mortal strikes with bladestorm. You need to reduce the duration of colossus smash with disarm.
3:03 lil yellow pikachu was loud there behind
I just want to say more top players should be doing this man. Would be great for the community. Props to you my man.
dude last night was absolutely FRIEEEEDDD
This was just as funny as it was live 😂
watching these game actually gave me so much anxiety lol. Gl for that rogue on climbing
The sound on Vanish is killing me :D
Havent done arena in years, but this vid is actual amazing. Big ups Pika and Ed
Hey, amazing progression! i can see you keep getting better and better! keep it up!
We need more videos like this! Ed rules!
Respect to Ed for sharing this. Would love to see how far you can climb
Yoooo that car noise has me fucking howling with laughter.
ED you did a great job learning man! Keep it up dude and keep the video coming
At that mmr you train the heals it sounds dumb but it works alot of the times they panic
Ed having the literal best rogue coach in the game.
Gotta keep this series going! Even made a rogue finally myself xD
No way Ed's voice!!
being coached by pika is a dream come true
this is sick! love it
Loving this series
need to give larger nameplates a try, its easier to see the class colors in the sea of pets. default option. you kicked ass, Ed.
you're doing great Ed!!!!
I think you should teach him Sub. With Bomb and duel and his play improve, he can easily get to 1800. Kidney healer, cheap kill target blade dance symbol septic secret tech duel goremaw bite cheap evis cheap evis. Outlaw just dont have that damage to secure the kill by himself. But after 1800 is different story. You should tell him to use fient more often. Fient the bladestorm. Fient anything that Aoe esp when you low.
Very good series, please do more 🎉
First time playing this rogue? Insanely good
Lol this is hilarious .
I believe in you editor boy !!
I believe !!!
I love the random chaos in low rating😂😂
last season i leveled my druid and i havent pvped on him much so my mmr was like 1500. im telling you, i joined so many tanks shuffle. it was legit ELO HELL
Love this, makes me want to get back on the rogue!
This is just soo good. Tip my hat to you, Ed. GG's
Pika I wanna see you fight cvark or on dalaran since xar isn’t on retail anymore
Dam that last WIN GG BOYS
I play this rank as mage, it's tough. Not because I suck but because of my teammates just dying. I have to peel attention off of doing damage to constantly peel people off my healer or 3rd. It actually got easier the higher rank I got
These are the best vids
Live coaching probably isnt the best when you are that new to the game lol! instead, start giving him tips on things to get better on, and when he gets all his keybinds down and focus macros, it will be easier for him to get live coached
The game that ended at like 34:00 ish was just a straight pump fest 💀
we neeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddd more
Disable minion nameplates and healthbars. Go to settings and change Tab to target nearest enemy player instead of target nearest enemy. These things changed my life when i was struggling. I think you are doing great. Unfortunate games, but great content nonetheless! Keep up the good work!
Let’s go Ed! Learning with ya!
Ed, maybe swap to big health bars so you can spot classes faster. I can't play with thin nameplates at all.
Just blasting into thorns while at 30% hp lol
wtf the car noise is sending me haha
More of these please
so yeah. getting out of 1400 crab bucket. it's actually legit. ofcourse when you're pika and played rogue entire life, it's easy cause you got the skillz, the damage, the cc and can pull it all off. but the cookie cutter to get out of 1400 to 1800. is max out cleave damage, for most part. just the way lobbies work. this is why unholy dps is so good, this is why DH so good. this is why warrior so good. you can deal away without even throwing a CC. just dps
do add, im 1800 average andie, i do mogs for classes i want set from and that's it. i have yet to get a rogue mog. the damage, isnt there. to get out of 1400, you need to be good with CC and have this gut feeling when, to use your bomb or duel to win the round. all lobbies i saw with rogues and as a rogue, rogues are usually lowest dps. and those that win, are the ones that can secure a kill. this made me abandon rogue. rogue i loved all these years and got 2000 on in BFA season 1. blizz realized that if rogue have their old damage and the cc they have. they are too op. so they quietly nerfed damage in pvp at least, to force them into being cc kings. unfortunately 80% of players can't pull out good, timely cc.
i think assa and outlaw are fine atm. you can still go 1800+ with correct dps rotation and using CC in between DRs. it's just harder for sub with the latest patch.
if you compare Assa today, to Assa in season 1 BFA. today's Assa is straight @$$. meanwhile both expansions it plays exactly the same with same rotation. @@Vexmancer
What does ELO mean?
rank
The vanish sound effect is so troll lol.
VROOOOM - time to dance 😂
Whats worse is arms warrior doesnt even gimp everyone because it doesnt force another prot.
I love the ed-content ❤
Im glad that im not the only one with shitty lobbies. Keep going Ed
I am sitting at mid 1300"s i tell ya the lobbys in solo you get either 1400+ rated or 0 rated and super lazy healers who blame dps , i play a range squishy MM so i play around my healer using los a lot of the time, but it is crazy at that rating people learning and people having so much agro at players, i will note usually healers saying that came across a group of 6 players and we all just supported each other lol funny as heck, we all need to learn, but i have no idea how to get out of it lol, a lot of fun though and totally insane, i have been playing this game for 17 err almost 18 years now and only this ex pac i tried my hand at pvp and the abuse lol lucky i am a old bloke so water off of a ducks back :) err not to sure what my point was here but hey it is all good right ???
That
was amazing
damn Ed gonna be a beast in no time
really nice video. gimme more EDucation
Double prot is troll but wait till you get the Prot/Tank DH lobby
Doesn’t happen anymore. Prots only q into each other and other tanks are treated as dps
mann that would be tough to have one of the worlds best rogues trying to tell you how to play. But deffently would be cool and could learn alot . . lol Pika could charge for this 😅
Season 1 shuffle I got 2500 in a x2 prot Pala game. Follow the light!
More!
Gawd to understand Wow like you guys do. I love pvp hell i play smite everyday just for this lol. But your build seems to be everything unlesss your team skilll is there
you can get 2 tanks instead of 2 healer in ss ??? what the
I like how on mobile you can’t read the Ed the editor part. Pump faked
i love both, so please mooore 😂
do more videos like this!
ay bro your racial gets you out of fears
🔥🔥 video
Who is the vanish sound? 😹
The chefs won!!!
i love those videos
Bigger nameplates and you'll feel the benefit
wow your great for 1 week, better than me most likely
I think a nameplate addon would help him a lot in terms of keeping track of people. Plater.
Pika cane you make a ele shaman guide