2009 Road Race Motorsports Turbo Lancer

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  • @kevinskeete9074
    @kevinskeete9074 11 років тому +20

    3 more months and it will be 3yrs since I installed this kit on my daily driven 09 GTS......40k+ miles later and not even a hiccup! Not even when we hit single digit temps here in NY. Couldn't be happier with it!

    • @infamouskid691
      @infamouskid691 10 років тому

      Kevin I own a gts and am looking to do this to my car where in ny did you get the work done i dont know of any machine shops that would do the install and i dont trust any of the mechanics where i live I live in the north bronx lower westchester county

    • @kevinskeete9074
      @kevinskeete9074 10 років тому

      infamouskid691 I installed the kit myself.

    • @daviondavy8469
      @daviondavy8469 7 років тому

      I though the little 4 clylinder would blow with that pressure,i really want to do it but im worried the car wont be sble to handle

    • @infamouskid691
      @infamouskid691 6 років тому +1

      they have this turbo tuned for daily drivers your not getting 20+psi out of this turbo this is why it works well with this car. if your looking for a full race turbo this is not for you.....i would be more concerned about the transmission blowing rather than the engine lol

  • @mchammerp
    @mchammerp 9 років тому +68

    LOL so many people confuse the regular lancers with the evos , i drive a 2004 lancer ralliart and i still get , " is a that evo bro " im like nooo i wish

    • @phodacbitch
      @phodacbitch 7 років тому +3

      you should tell them to fuck off

    • @Bluetimesz
      @Bluetimesz 7 років тому +3

      The ralliart closely match the Evo.

    • @45phat37
      @45phat37 6 років тому

      They same shut bro only the different think is the body kit front and back is different and bigger turbo

    • @dasdas6458
      @dasdas6458 6 років тому

      @@45phat37 Ralliart is a 4b11, evo x is a 4b12 more then a body kits it's also on a wider chassis

    • @BurnedAura68
      @BurnedAura68 6 років тому +3

      @@dasdas6458 the fuck?

  • @KeybladeHero01
    @KeybladeHero01 11 років тому +16

    She made a left turn around 15-25mph and said it turns "very well."

  • @danielsueros8166
    @danielsueros8166 10 років тому +11

    where can i go do these upgrades?? i have a 2010 lancer gts

  • @nephilymbass1
    @nephilymbass1 13 років тому +1

    Just wanted to point out because several people asked. The only turbo that I've seen rrm sell is for the 2.4L gts. I have a 2011gts and can believe it can keep up with a STOCK Evo with a few mods. It's not about hp it's about torque and yes awd does absorb hp anyways.

  • @OmniMoon
    @OmniMoon 8 років тому +8

    RRM should do another review on this car. I especially want to see and hear how this car sounds and drives.

  • @TheJMedia
    @TheJMedia 8 років тому +12

    Maybe one day I'll do this to my 2015 Lancer GT

    • @dAbaPEsTA123
      @dAbaPEsTA123 8 років тому +1

      Bro, all those mods (not counting cosmetic), would cost you near $15k... if you sold your Lancer GT and come up with $10k, you can buy an Evo X.

    • @TheJMedia
      @TheJMedia 8 років тому +2

      +dAbaPEsTA123 Yea I decided to just keep my Lancer GT as a daily/show car and build my other car as a track car.

    • @dAbaPEsTA123
      @dAbaPEsTA123 8 років тому

      The J Media What's your other car?

    • @TheJMedia
      @TheJMedia 8 років тому +1

      99 civic coupe. Check out my channel to see both cars!

    • @dAbaPEsTA123
      @dAbaPEsTA123 8 років тому

      The J Media Nice! I will!

  • @cricket12ish
    @cricket12ish 11 років тому

    i agree and its nice to see people out there that put time in effort in specific cars rather then companies top performance cars, anyone can buy an evo but building a car to its peak potential makes driving it much more satisfying

  • @61909usmcpooky
    @61909usmcpooky 9 років тому +6

    So many people say why not just get this and that .. When people look at cars that most people write off and put dedication into the car that's a car enthusiast . I'm pretty when the corrolla 86 came out everyone was saying don't bother this and that and that can be said to plenty of cars

  • @BrayZap
    @BrayZap 11 років тому +16

    She said she will beat us at the track guys.

  • @jonnyronnyguy
    @jonnyronnyguy 4 роки тому +2

    Oh my god. Theres actually hope for tuning an ES lancer. The temptation to get the kit is intensifying.

    • @iamjadsn
      @iamjadsn 4 роки тому

      jonnyronnyguy where can u buy the kit

    • @BruTJezuS
      @BruTJezuS 4 роки тому

      iamjadsn I’m putting a turbo on my Es , I bought a Ralliart turbo , I’m currently buying other parts too I can send you the link to the forum

    • @OzzyAirborne
      @OzzyAirborne 3 роки тому

      @@BruTJezuS hey can you send me it to please

  • @stefandjordjevic9
    @stefandjordjevic9 13 років тому +1

    where I can buy this one?and price please?

  • @yakovgolyadkin
    @yakovgolyadkin 14 років тому

    @neh4pres I don't forget what transmission the Ralliart (which is one word, btw) has. I drive one. One which cost me less than the combined cost of a Lancer GTS and this kit, I might add.
    You seem to not actually know what transmission it has, though. It's a dual-clutch transmission. Not actually a manual or an automatic. It's both. An "auto with paddle shifters" is a description of the CVT GTS.
    As for the Ralliart, there is far more that can be done to it than just upping the boost.

  • @raykeeler6
    @raykeeler6 10 років тому +48

    My Turbo 2.4 Lancer eats Evo's

    • @hangcool
      @hangcool 10 років тому +8

      But its still a regular Lancer

    • @rrace002
      @rrace002 10 років тому +5

      Where are your videos?

    • @KingCondor
      @KingCondor 7 років тому +1

      stock evos

    • @TeamGun
      @TeamGun 6 років тому +5

      Chris yeah built not bought can actually be proud of it.

    • @ukaszk6539
      @ukaszk6539 6 років тому +8

      @@hangcool so? Still is Good looking. Regular Lancer is more comfortable to drive and use...every Day than evolution versions... thing about it what is The difrent beetwin civil car versions nad sport car version...

  • @tsensual
    @tsensual 14 років тому

    I like the safety harness that lifts, pushes, and separates.

  • @neh4pres
    @neh4pres 14 років тому

    @yakovgolyadkin ..... you forget that the rally art is not manual.. it is auto with paddle shifters.. and the turbo does not max out the engine.. for one they dont use a boost controler to crank the pressure up.. which is what you would do with the ralli art

  • @EvolutionIXRR
    @EvolutionIXRR 14 років тому

    the only thing is it isn't all wheel drive but i like it (i live in a place where it rains almost everyday). who does the installation? i have an evo x and my bro has a gts..i wanna buy him a turbo kit..

  • @kevo8901
    @kevo8901 15 років тому +2

    Hey its Kevin From Florida... AWESOME VID!!!!! My Turbo Lancer Is Runing Great!!!

    • @ajbishop6682
      @ajbishop6682 4 роки тому

      How much did it cost you in total to turbo your lancer

  • @celticirishkeith
    @celticirishkeith 14 років тому +1

    two questions,
    where can i get that hood ?
    and will i fit on my 09 gts ?

  • @burnout1256
    @burnout1256 10 років тому +1

    I just got a lancer, its not a ralliart or evo but the car its self is built amazingly. I got the 5 speed manual and id love to drive her around all day long

    • @mactwentytwentyfour
      @mactwentytwentyfour 9 років тому +1

      +burnout1256 same i love mine as well :D its a fun little car

  • @Jabronie0
    @Jabronie0 15 років тому

    @CHANNELgr also worth if you prefer a traditional manual over the Ralliart's twin clutch auto

  • @GTaker1
    @GTaker1 14 років тому

    @drbos FWD. Thats the Lancer GTS turned into a turbo Lancer. The 09 Ralliart is AWD and turbo stock, but i think this car could actually stay w/ it.

  • @D3at4not3
    @D3at4not3 12 років тому

    This helped a lot, but I have the optional Variable Transmission (With paddle shifters) in my GTS. Would it be basically the same thing?

  • @EvolutionSev
    @EvolutionSev 11 років тому +2

    Exactly. Residual value isn't too bad either. Most Evo's go for the residual anyway.

  • @157385
    @157385 15 років тому

    Is that lancer gts and it auto or is a 6 manual transmission or using a twin clutch sst??

  • @wrxFTWdey
    @wrxFTWdey 12 років тому

    it's still fwd though, right ? i think awd wasn't offered untill 2011 or 2012, flash/tune a ralliart and you have a good chance against EVO's, just because of the twin clutch, excluding MR's of course.

  • @osegueracode
    @osegueracode 10 років тому +1

    OK... so where do I buy it? I am failing to find this important detail...

    • @DarkMan2555
      @DarkMan2555 10 років тому

      You go out and buy a regular lancer (ES,SE,GT,GSR etc.) and then buy the proper turbo kit for your lancer from Road Race Motorsports. You can either install it yourself if you're mechanically-savvy or pay a mechanic about 1K for the install.

  • @aleksshadow
    @aleksshadow 6 років тому +1

    Where can I get the turbo manifold ?

  • @Mykehawke
    @Mykehawke 13 років тому +4

    "my r32 gtr" ... i think im in love.

  • @kerryanndlc
    @kerryanndlc 13 років тому

    It is purely entertaining to read some of these comments. People really take this comparison to heart. Any of you who track cars know the value of AWD, however MANY people have Lancers, I personally see more Lancers than Evo's on the street. RRM is a good resource for THOSE people. Overall this car was a blast to drive, my only gripe was WRTV didnt do this at the track! Would have been way more fun and informative...but thats all they had so hope you all enjoyed it for what it was.

  • @GTaker1
    @GTaker1 14 років тому

    @Smilieracer It's the Lancer GTS. It has the new 2.4L 4B12 engine.

  • @mikane24
    @mikane24 14 років тому

    @taylorcola that is very nice i actually bought the evo myself. about the gtr my dad is going to buy it for me for christmass present, by the way nice cobra though but ah, dont you like the new c6 z06?

  • @Litcandl3
    @Litcandl3 12 років тому

    @Zekemckillip Yes the AWD is comparable to the Evo's AWD system, however there are major differences in the cars themselves. Such as Main point, different chassis, different transmission, which if you cant put the power to the ground effectively it is not as fast as an Evo, steering and response. Not being able to control the car is also a huge issue. Also, Is your 2.4L sleeved? because if it is not, you will eventually crack the bored out galant block you have.

  • @kitikitiboy
    @kitikitiboy 14 років тому

    @LiLTMac123 the Ralliart has AWD system from the evo IX that have a full LSD,center and rear differential. and the compression ratio is 9.0 which the 4b11 is a strong engine that can take high boost.

  • @Grady05
    @Grady05 13 років тому

    first i was hyped about seeing this car but became more interested in Kerryann ;)

  • @CoyoteInfinite
    @CoyoteInfinite 11 років тому

    What year is it? Mine is the 2009 with the paddle shifters... I think they are the same thing...

  • @LiLTMac123
    @LiLTMac123 14 років тому

    @yakovgolyadkin and the ralliar is AWD! the new regular lancers are still fwd right?

  • @Alterevo89
    @Alterevo89 12 років тому

    would this turbo fit or be compatible with the 1.5cc lancer? sold in central america?

  • @BryanGSX95
    @BryanGSX95 2 роки тому

    I know it’s an old video but any knowledge on the wheel specs? Rpf1 probably 17x something?

  • @SMOKEkaHOLIC
    @SMOKEkaHOLIC 11 років тому +2

    somebody tell me where to buy that hood please.. :(

  • @cambienvenu
    @cambienvenu 13 років тому

    @sinnersprayer89 The lancer is a tuner car, some people can't afford the insurance on an evo did you ever think of that?

  • @maynorrodriguez7372
    @maynorrodriguez7372 5 років тому +1

    Can you guys give me some details of the turbo? Plz I have the same one and also the same calor 😮😉👌

  • @excalexec
    @excalexec 13 років тому

    can you get the turbo kit for the automatic transmission as well?

  • @lycia69
    @lycia69 12 років тому

    Yes, it's still FWD. The Ralliart didn't debut until 2009 and the Lancer SE AWD in 2012.

  • @Techwrench_
    @Techwrench_ 10 років тому +5

    it is cheaper but if its a rally car its good to have the AWD evo or rally art but Road Race did a good job and the car looks great!

    • @phareztrinimand
      @phareztrinimand 10 років тому +1

      you can make it AWD just get a hob that is on the axle, that will make it AWD and buy diff to way cheaper to

    • @lynel1985
      @lynel1985 9 років тому

      Pharez Knights where do you people get this info? evos are a different chassis. Im not saying it cant be done but its not a matter of bolting in parts.

    • @phareztrinimand
      @phareztrinimand 9 років тому +1

      well the chassis is not really different you know

    • @lynel1985
      @lynel1985 9 років тому

      not really different? a simple 5 minute google search will show you the type of work needed to convert the rear end to even a basic awd configuration using harvested parts from ralliarts or evoX, that's without the tunnel for the drive shaft. Yes the front is very similar but there is a reason non evos have a chassis identifier 4or5cya and evox have 4cza.

    • @phareztrinimand
      @phareztrinimand 9 років тому +1

      The chassis from a normal lancer there tweak the chassis like for weight balance to go around
      curves I don't really see a different when working on them

  • @jan1soba
    @jan1soba 14 років тому

    how did ya make the lancer say welcome when u turn it on?

  • @Fearless-Hyena
    @Fearless-Hyena 5 років тому +1

    can you put a turbo kit on a 2.4 lancer cvt ??

    • @dmrkt2964
      @dmrkt2964 5 років тому

      haider kazmee would got with a super charge for a cvt

  • @ujusgotownd
    @ujusgotownd 14 років тому

    the turbo lancer is still fwd right?

  • @mikane24
    @mikane24 14 років тому

    @taylorcola true that man, i already asked for a gtr and one of the dealer gave me a deal for just 75 but its on black i really want to get white or same as your car which is silver. and already asked how much for insurance under my name its roughly 700 per month. how do you like the car?

  • @Rico8458
    @Rico8458 14 років тому

    which is a better ride? Optima, Lancer, or Elantra?

  • @hvkv0000
    @hvkv0000 13 років тому

    did they start of with a standard lancer??? the FWD lancer??? O.O

  • @ChummyChime
    @ChummyChime 15 років тому

    is this the 2.4 liter? or 2.0?

  • @yakovgolyadkin
    @yakovgolyadkin 14 років тому

    @LiLTMac123 Yeah. The Ralliart has the AWD system from the Evo X. The Lancers are just FWD.

    • @Kingshock
      @Kingshock 5 років тому

      Not true AWD Lancers exist too. Google the SEL Lancer category.

  • @josephmelville1
    @josephmelville1 12 років тому

    is it a front wheel drive? if it is i hate it

  • @ernestosalazar4590
    @ernestosalazar4590 3 роки тому

    Were can i get this turbo kit ?

  • @beckerchandra2259
    @beckerchandra2259 6 років тому +1

    Nice car n video...
    How year, your have Lancer car?
    Thanks...
    :)

  • @Pablo0125
    @Pablo0125 14 років тому

    She's shifting manually, I thought Lancers had paddle shifters, is there an option in manual, and paddle shifters?

  • @iiSystemz13
    @iiSystemz13 14 років тому

    what kind of turbo is it? ?

  • @bryanCLXT
    @bryanCLXT 9 місяців тому

    Recently bought a 2011 outlander sport and ive been thinking of doing some mods.

  • @Mex24x
    @Mex24x 13 років тому

    Kerryann is F-I-N-E. AND SHE LOVE'S AND DRIVE'S CAR'S TOO...HELL YA!!!
    I myself bought a 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS (White) just for a Daily since my SS waste a lot of gas and I'm currently going to UTI. I was thinking about getting a EVO X (GSR) but now this video makes me wanna just turbo my 2010 Lancer and keep it (for my import car) because I still want the 2013 Shelby GT500 Super Snake

  • @devinespinozamontiel
    @devinespinozamontiel 9 років тому +19

    Evo x 30k to 40k
    Lancer gts where i live 5k to 9k
    Plus 5k for the turbo lets say 14k
    Evo x 291 hp AWD
    Gts 270 hp FWD
    Gts is lighter then evo so in a roll lancer is faster then the evo
    14k for a 270hp lancer
    Vs
    35k for a stock evo x
    I get the lancer and still have 25k more for upgrades like AWD and another 400hp

    • @lynel1985
      @lynel1985 9 років тому

      devin Espinoza awd isn't an option on the non evo base. it is however cheaper, band for buck but more so because evos are overpriced. I have a ralliart lancer and factory evo performance is only 1500 bucks away. In austalia it was 40-50k for a evo x and my ralliart was 25k. MY13 comparison

    • @luisbello01
      @luisbello01 9 років тому +1

      Where do u live ? Lol a lancer in ny is like freakin 25k -_- i need to go where u live and drive it back lol

    • @devinespinozamontiel
      @devinespinozamontiel 9 років тому

      I live in SLC Htah USA.
      There is an Evo x gsr for 25k.
      1 minute from my hause

    • @luisbello01
      @luisbello01 9 років тому +2

      Jesus you're in Utah lol that's a long drive. Freaking Evo here NYC goes for 38 to 40k -_-

    • @davidchen8340
      @davidchen8340 9 років тому +1

      +Luis Melo i live in chicago, same dam price -.-" haha

  • @backwheelbandits9419
    @backwheelbandits9419 9 років тому +1

    because its 4 wheel drive love with makes that n the subaru have great handling

  • @157385
    @157385 15 років тому

    hey that a 5 speed gts turbo? or a lancer ralliart turbo

  • @elbatoranchero
    @elbatoranchero 14 років тому

    is their a 2-door lancer?

  • @edwardmenendez
    @edwardmenendez 15 років тому

    which one is it 500lbs lighter than evo or Ralliart? cuz Raliart is 300 lighter than Evo

  • @EvolutionSev
    @EvolutionSev 11 років тому +1

    It's not as bad as you think lol...especially now with Evo's being less than $350 a month as a lease. 3rd Evo and I'm 22.

  • @D3at4not3
    @D3at4not3 12 років тому

    At 3:47 what is that piece inserted into the window called?

  • @hiks1969
    @hiks1969 15 років тому

    is that low comp. piston's?

  • @eliperez1238
    @eliperez1238 8 років тому

    What is the size of the wheels? Tnx!

  • @randylozano4553
    @randylozano4553 4 роки тому

    Will it work with a auto cvt trans?

  • @TJdance4life
    @TJdance4life 15 років тому

    @eyedirector haha, i have the same problem too. but the thing is the evo x, sti, and g37 x [correct me if i'm wrong] are awd. and the 370z is rwd. i guess if you plan to drift the 370z for sure. but other than that. they are all really good.

  • @ketkiddy
    @ketkiddy 13 років тому

    i'm no expert but when he said they've changed the turbo and now have 100 hp extra surely you should be able to get another 100 bhp form an Evo with just exhaust, induction kit, cams & retune ???? if i was changing the turbo i'd be wanting loads more power than 100 !

  • @ge3edy
    @ge3edy 15 років тому

    this tuned one they say it is a lancer not an evo??

  • @retzuaiga
    @retzuaiga 12 років тому

    what's it's 0-60 time for the turbo lancer?

  • @batterybro7579
    @batterybro7579 12 років тому

    so is it still fwd?

  • @SuperDananator
    @SuperDananator 8 років тому +1

    What model lancer is this that he made turbo?

    • @dAbaPEsTA123
      @dAbaPEsTA123 8 років тому +1

      2009 model Lancer GTS. RRM turbo kit for manual transmission. Not sure if it's their Stage 1 or Stage 2 Turbo Kit though

    • @lucas40998
      @lucas40998 6 років тому

      @@dAbaPEsTA123 base 2.4 L and 178HP is realy nice but now is 270 is realy good score!!!

  • @helmetBETTY
    @helmetBETTY 15 років тому

    How much all the package cost..?

  • @pinunotv6002
    @pinunotv6002 5 років тому +2

    The look still the best better than type 2019 and wrx 2019. So handsome car lancer

  • @rafaelTaquero
    @rafaelTaquero 12 років тому

    WHERE I CAN GET INFO ABOUT THIS PACK ? PLZ I WANT IT FOR MY LANCER, ANY WEB PAGE?

  • @dhookland
    @dhookland 11 років тому

    where can you get the roadrace decal from?

  • @GT2bullet
    @GT2bullet 14 років тому

    Does anybody know what that metal (or whatever its made of) holes in the rear windows is called? and if its attached to an anti roll Cage? if its not attached i want them!!!

  • @drbos
    @drbos 14 років тому

    Is that AWD or FWD??

  • @RileyBassing
    @RileyBassing 12 років тому

    soooo how much to the wheels?

  • @MekongSavior
    @MekongSavior 10 років тому +7

    I'll do this to my ES!

  • @TheKaotikkaos
    @TheKaotikkaos 15 років тому

    Also for you guys this is a 5 speed GTS. Now a ralliart. Also, only the CVT comes with a 6 speed.

  • @TheDaeggster85
    @TheDaeggster85 11 років тому

    What lancer model gets modded?
    Es, De, Raliart?

  • @makizarco4407
    @makizarco4407 8 років тому +17

    all this evo owners allways going to hate if a person prefers to modified there lancers let them its more fun cuz it will be unique

    • @princec2679
      @princec2679 8 років тому +1

      is it posible to put a turbo in a lancer 08 ?

    • @lesbethtacioni1733
      @lesbethtacioni1733 8 років тому +8

      +Maki Zarco Exactly! As a Lancer GTS owner I think it's incredible! Most here are Mitsubishi owners who just loves Mitsubishi period. Why don't we leave it at that? Its like the 3sgte and ST205 engine swap for Celica/MR2, it's your car do what you want, bottom line lets shut up and drive!!

    • @Jason1087870
      @Jason1087870 8 років тому +1

      Yes it is. They have turbo kits for the 4B12 engines and the 4B11s can be easily swapped with a ralliart turbo, manifold, and piping.

  • @ogarcia3518
    @ogarcia3518 6 років тому

    Will this kit work on a 2016 lancer es cvt?

  • @vip_supercars3652
    @vip_supercars3652 10 років тому

    that turbocharged gts was putting out 270 hp when the evo puts out 291. The gts is also front wheel drive while the evo is 4 wheel drive

    • @1234567kon
      @1234567kon 10 років тому

      And the evo cost way more!!

  • @deanrichard2696
    @deanrichard2696 12 років тому +3

    cheap or expensive I want an evo and screw subaru!

  • @wgshooter
    @wgshooter 13 років тому +1

    @MrMecrob1 I agree its by far one of the best-looking car right now. and yeah if you lived with snow fwd would be helpful. but it all comes down to different strokes for different folks

  • @wtf000000000000
    @wtf000000000000 13 років тому

    @nephilymbass1 is about traction, FF tend to understeer alot and loses tractions at low speed, so there is no way you could put all those torque down in 1st and 2nd gear....

  • @raceboii1339
    @raceboii1339 6 років тому

    what is the front lip

  • @martin117ish
    @martin117ish 13 років тому

    can this turbo kit go to a lancer es????

  • @rabbon-ithegenesis7169
    @rabbon-ithegenesis7169 5 років тому

    The Evo stands out with the factory wide body that's what the regular lancer lacks. The front fenders can be swapped but the rear quarters would need serious body work/paint that's what kills it for me. The only lancer I'm getting is the Sportback GTS no confusion there.

  • @zdf1000
    @zdf1000 14 років тому

    What is that song at the beginning? 00:09

  • @zekemckillip
    @zekemckillip 12 років тому +1

    My car is about 300lbs lighter than an Evo, has a comparable AWD from a racing performance standpoint, and I have a 2.4L engine, not the crappy 2.0L from the Evo, meaning I have more headroom... If I drop another $6K into my car I can probably rebuild all the internals on the engine and put a larger Turbo than even the Evo has... I'm sure at that point I'd be over 400 WHP for the same price, that is the point. Hell, I've only put $24K into my car, do the math, I have about $8K saved over an Evo

  • @thedenimvault
    @thedenimvault 13 років тому

    @sdu0072001 thats true, but the WRC sti has a 2.0 to compete. either way, both of them dropped out of WRC, so I don't see the point talking about it.

  • @danieldilena6187
    @danieldilena6187 10 років тому +14

    Fkn music I didn't get to hear that turbo...

  • @MrMecrob1
    @MrMecrob1 13 років тому

    @wgshooter If you are talking new cars you're correct, but i bought a used 08 lancer es for $9500+4000=$13500. I guess i never specified new, or used. 08 isn't brand new, but is pretty new for a car in that price range. In that price range it'd be hard to find a car that new that amount of power with the amount of stability the lancer has. Besides that i like the look of the lancer way over any cars comparable to it. Fwd isn't my fav :(, but it does better then rwd in the snow where i live.