@@ScottsSpeedShop 😁 thanks Jed I'd to thank the academy and especially your dad he was the inspiration for this little diddy without him it would not of been possible. 😎👍
Keep the treasure you call Dad happy and busy! Keep learning how to do and learn as much as you can from him because the knowledge he has you can't always Google or read up about/learn in a book or school. Nice machine you guys have restored I think you're going to enjoy using it and learning at the same time. You two have a great day and we will keep watching. Have a great day! Hopefully Dad is getting better and hopefully closing in on the 💯% mark. Raining here this morning and chilly @ 52° supposed to be the high temperature today. Good morning and hopefully a productive day for everything you have to do. Enjoy the day, we enjoyed the video.
There's a set of centrifical operated points in the motors and I'm betting that were not closing up when it slows down that may be the click you hear when turning
The clicking you heard when the oil pump was belted on the new motor was the centrifugal points closing from low rpm's. Pull the end cover from your old motor and check the springs and points.
Thanks Jonathan, I am gonna check those out later today, we actually got the machine to operate flawlessly once we put a little oil on the bearings, that made a world of difference in the machine. I've been practicing grinding valves and have done probably a dozen. My grandpa wants to come over and play with the valve grinder. His Dad used to have one and Grandpa wants to relive his youth, i think it'll be fun.
Back in the day Soix was good stuff I have no idea about today, that goes for many things. Always a pleasure gentleman when we can visit and learn Central California watching
I just bought this exact machine and loved your video! I'm 57 and have always wanted one since my high school auto mechanics class when I was 18. True Dreams never die! TX so much for your video!
Im restoring an old K O Lee 403 CH. valve grinder , it was the military issue unit .. Everything is ok on it although locked up . I need to rebuild the oil/ fluid pump with new bronze bushings , seals and new vertical and horizontal shafts . I have it completely disassembled on the shafts that are salvageable I’ve cleaned them up with minimal loss and staying within tolerance from the factory . It has all new wiring , ORings , bearings in the main grinding shaft . The motor worked fine although lost a little strength so I’ve rebuilt that to factory ratings with a new starter , cleaned and tuned armature , starter capacitor.. I was told that parts would be hell to find , but with the book that came with it , I used the factory parts number and cross referenced to new and updated parts .. It’s been a fun project and I can’t wait to use it !! All of the outer cases and tooling holder have been bead blasted and powder coated too
I ran one of those in my high school shop class! I was the only guy in there that knew about 3 angle valve jobs! The teacher had a set of heads that he had gotten to put on an engine he was building to replace the poly 318 in his 63 Fury, I can't remember what size the engine he was putting in but he said it was the biggest poly they made and he was saying there was no substitute for cubic inches!! He showed me how to do a 3 angle valve job on a couple of valves and then turned me loose on it! That was close to 50 years ago so I can't remember the details of it but it's not hard to run at all!
Goodson sells the correct valve grinding oil . Also my Sioux oil pump was bound up with crud . When I cleaned it out , I also found the pump shaft was worn down , and the bushings it ran in was worn out . I made new bushings to center up the pump shaft better , and now it runs great . I think all the stone material and metal ground off the valves get flushed through the pump and cause it to wear . No real filters on the system . Good luck with that grinder , it will do just as good a job as the new stuff , with a little care .
your electric motor is perfectly recuperable, you have only to clean up the starting points AND insert #8 ( or#10 ) flat washers between the end plate of the motor and the points fiber plate, This will toss the starting points about 0.030" toward the rotor and compensate for the wear of the points and of the contact race so youy motor will be good for service. I saved many motors that way.
Well I'll be dipped, first time I've seen ur dad do the boogie boogie on dance with a big smile on his face😃 love to see when u put it to work, love to see how it's done, awesome vid guys👍
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The oil pump should have a pressure relief valve on the outlet side, it could be seized closed causing excessive load on the motor. Sometimes people screw it in all the way trying to increase flow. Try backing it off and see if it runs better. Don't need much flow for grinding valves bc contact area is small. Also check the motor is wired for 110 not 220. Really nice machine, great score.
Thats cool you got a classic machine shop grinder for valves. A little tlc and she'll be back to normal. I think I'm going with an 80.00 drill press and a hand full of metal files for filing metal and angle grind my valves . Uncle Tony Showed how to do that.
Got the same issue with a lathe ive pulled from a shed after 30 years. Cleaned the motor and its ok. I had to spin with my fingers to start..... scary stuff
Had a compressor that the start up capacitor was bad. We mounted the motor on a board and you just had to lift up the board so the belts were loose and get the motor running. Once it was running you would lower the motor and board down and the compressor would pump air. Good job. Happy Motoring and Bye bye.
DAMN FINE JOB BROTHER. AND I noticed your garage looks like mine kinda sorta. A lovely mess. But seriously get A hold of the guy who has the channel my vintage iron 7512 He should be able too steer y'all the right way on valve grinding.
Hey Jed, Check to see if the motor isn't wired wrong on the clips where the wires go into the motor. It sounds to me that the motor itself is wired for 220 not 110 - it doesn't hurt to double check. If it is then that's why it doesn't have the power it should. later
Hi Good day to U, I have this machine and it has huge problem.The stone slide rushes in when we apply pressure to grind the valve I have to push back the slide with hand to avoid extreme heavy cut and valve damage Please help me to solve the issue . Thanks and regards
Yes there is surely huge problem so where do I have to look for repair ,when faced with this type of issue lead screw and nut or the bars on which the stone slide moves . Awaiting for ur precious reply . Thanks
I have a 645 as well but mine is slightly old because I only have I oil line to share both wheels and my chuck doesn’t have the leaver on it but I wanted to ask you how do you know what angle your cutting the valve face at ? I can’t find any numbers on the deck or the chuck so I can’t figure out how you know precisely what angle the valve is at ? Also is your chuck true mine has a wobble so I was wondering if you know where a guy could find used parts that are still in good shape? Appreciate any help you can give me!
Man, I actually just some my valve grinder to a UA-cam friend who goes by the name of Tall Johns Fun Shop, he expressed a lot interest in it, so I sold it to him. I think I recall my chuck having just a slight amount of wobble, but nothing major, and under my chuck there were engravings for the angles you were cutting at. I would recommend going to check out my buddies channel and pester him about making videos on it. As far as service parts, the only thing I found was oil and belts
Yeah we used to have an old saw that we started kinda like that; until one of my buddies grabbed it. He now has a very gross thumb nail. We went ahead and fixed it.
Play that funky valve grinder white boy play that funky valve grinder right your going to grind it and grind it and grind to the music. 😎👍
lmao You won comment of the video with that man
@@ScottsSpeedShop 😁 thanks Jed I'd to thank the academy and especially your dad he was the inspiration for this little diddy without him it would not of been possible. 😎👍
Sweet machine, those old machines were made to outlast years unlike todays machines, which I hate
That is very true
Keep the treasure you call Dad happy and busy! Keep learning how to do and learn as much as you can from him because the knowledge he has you can't always Google or read up about/learn in a book or school. Nice machine you guys have restored I think you're going to enjoy using it and learning at the same time. You two have a great day and we will keep watching. Have a great day! Hopefully Dad is getting better and hopefully closing in on the 💯% mark. Raining here this morning and chilly @ 52° supposed to be the high temperature today. Good morning and hopefully a productive day for everything you have to do. Enjoy the day, we enjoyed the video.
There's a set of centrifical operated points in the motors and I'm betting that were not closing up when it slows down that may be the click you hear when turning
The clicking you heard when the oil pump was belted on the new motor was the centrifugal points closing from low rpm's. Pull the end cover from your old motor and check the springs and points.
Thanks Jonathan, I am gonna check those out later today, we actually got the machine to operate flawlessly once we put a little oil on the bearings, that made a world of difference in the machine. I've been practicing grinding valves and have done probably a dozen. My grandpa wants to come over and play with the valve grinder. His Dad used to have one and Grandpa wants to relive his youth, i think it'll be fun.
@@ScottsSpeedShop Not much to doing it, Great thing to have for sure.
@@jonathanw4942 thanks for watching and lending some pointers
Back in the day Soix was good stuff I have no idea about today, that goes for many things.
Always a pleasure gentleman when we can visit and learn
Central California watching
I just bought this exact machine and loved your video! I'm 57 and have always wanted one since my high school auto mechanics class when I was 18. True Dreams never die! TX so much for your video!
Jed- you brighten our days. Can't stop LMAO. Love ya, brother.
Glad to hear that brother, thanks for watching
Im restoring an old K O Lee 403 CH. valve grinder , it was the military issue unit ..
Everything is ok on it although locked up .
I need to rebuild the oil/ fluid pump with new bronze bushings , seals and new vertical and horizontal shafts .
I have it completely disassembled on the shafts that are salvageable I’ve cleaned them up with minimal loss and staying within tolerance from the factory .
It has all new wiring , ORings , bearings in the main grinding shaft . The motor worked fine although lost a little strength so I’ve rebuilt that to factory ratings with a new starter , cleaned and tuned armature , starter capacitor..
I was told that parts would be hell to find , but with the book that came with it , I used the factory parts number and cross referenced to new and updated parts ..
It’s been a fun project and I can’t wait to use it !!
All of the outer cases and tooling holder have been bead blasted and powder coated too
Dad's correct. Start capicitor.
Old school valve grinder, I used to use one just like it back in 1970.
It is my instant therapy machine
I ran one of those in my high school shop class! I was the only guy in there that knew about 3 angle valve jobs! The teacher had a set of heads that he had gotten to put on an engine he was building to replace the poly 318 in his 63 Fury, I can't remember what size the engine he was putting in but he said it was the biggest poly they made and he was saying there was no substitute for cubic inches!! He showed me how to do a 3 angle valve job on a couple of valves and then turned me loose on it! That was close to 50 years ago so I can't remember the details of it but it's not hard to run at all!
413 Wedge?
I learned to use one of those in h.s. auto shop too! Loved it. Very satisfying!
Great team work you and your dad...... I can't wait to see you guys grind some valves and put a some heads together!
That is the plan my friend
Goodson sells the correct valve grinding oil . Also my Sioux oil pump was bound up with crud . When I cleaned it out , I also found the pump shaft was worn down , and the bushings it ran in was worn out . I made new bushings to center up the pump shaft better , and now it runs great . I think all the stone material and metal ground off the valves get flushed through the pump and cause it to wear . No real filters on the system . Good luck with that grinder , it will do just as good a job as the new stuff , with a little care .
Glad to see you got it running!!
Take care hoss!!
Stay safe!! Peace and love my friend!
Looks like that baby hemi is getting closer to being rebuilt now you have this machine
I wish that was true
I know what it's like to have alot of projects at least your getting things accomplished
your electric motor is perfectly recuperable, you have only to clean up the starting points AND insert #8 ( or#10 ) flat washers between the end plate of the motor and the points fiber plate, This will toss the starting points about 0.030" toward the rotor and compensate for the wear of the points and of the contact race so youy motor will be good for service.
I saved many motors that way.
Thank you, I am glad I kept that motor
Well I'll be dipped, first time I've seen ur dad do the boogie boogie on dance with a big smile on his face😃 love to see when u put it to work, love to see how it's done, awesome vid guys👍
glad you enjoyed man
Looks like she is all ready to help out during your next engine overhaul....
Sketchey science is great. I just stumbled on to your channel, its good stuff.
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The oil pump should have a pressure relief valve on the outlet side, it could be seized closed causing excessive load on the motor. Sometimes people screw it in all the way trying to increase flow. Try backing it off and see if it runs better. Don't need much flow for grinding valves bc contact area is small. Also check the motor is wired for 110 not 220. Really nice machine, great score.
A good friend of mine owns his own business rebuilding heads. Custom builds. Last pair heads i had worked $100.00 . Money well spent
Thats cool you got a classic machine shop grinder for valves. A little tlc and she'll be back to normal. I think I'm going with an 80.00 drill press and a hand full of metal files for filing metal and angle grind my valves . Uncle Tony Showed how to do that.
And the On/Off switch works!!
Good score Jed wish I had one. , Still have a seat grinder setup for 906 heads and old SBC. Will find valve grinder this summer
I have the valve grinding almost down, now to get some heads out and practice on the seats
Great machines. I definitely would have that motor rebuilt. I like my didgets
You had me at when your dad did his dance
I know you'll get at lot of use out of it for all the engine's you work on it will pay for itself in no time
Same here, I wasn't expecting that out of him lol
Got the same issue with a lathe ive pulled from a shed after 30 years. Cleaned the motor and its ok. I had to spin with my fingers to start..... scary stuff
Very nice it a great puce for your shop
I never knew they made a machine like that ....im going have too go get one like that ..fyi your a stud duck ...
Still not sure why I am a stud duck lol but these machines are very cool
Hi Jed. Nice video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Had a compressor that the start up capacitor was bad. We mounted the motor on a board and you just had to lift up the board so the belts were loose and get the motor running. Once it was running you would lower the motor and board down and the compressor would pump air.
Good job. Happy Motoring and Bye bye.
Thanks for sharing
It's ALIVE!!
DAMN FINE JOB BROTHER. AND I noticed your garage looks like mine kinda sorta. A lovely mess. But seriously get A hold of the guy who has the channel my vintage iron 7512 He should be able too steer y'all the right way on valve grinding.
I will do that
Great job and video 👍👍🇨🇱
Thanks 👍
you need a water soluble oil for the coolant regular oil will clog the stones.
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Now I see where You get Your Dance Moves from Jed ... Boogie on down ...
Lol Boogie boogie on brother man
4:40 I think your starting capacitor is dead or gone
Hey Jed, Check to see if the motor isn't wired wrong on the clips where the wires go into the motor. It sounds to me that the motor itself is wired for 220 not 110 - it doesn't hurt to double check. If it is then that's why it doesn't have the power it should. later
Thanks for the tip, we will double check everything
Could the motor be working backwards . Meaning is is turning backwards????
We checked that, it is spinning the same direction as the old one
Hell yeah first again
Legend!
Cool machine ....would be nice to see how it's use......🤙👍
Possible loose brush.
Great Video Jed nice to see some power of the past come back to life.... Keep up the great work! how is the rear end rebuild going?
Waiting on parts still unfortunately
@@ScottsSpeedShop It happens better to have the right stuff and only have to do it once is my way of thinking it will be sweet when it is done though!
Hi Good day to U, I have this machine and it has huge problem.The stone slide rushes in when we apply pressure to grind the valve I have to push back the slide with hand to avoid extreme heavy cut and valve damage Please help me to solve the issue . Thanks and regards
Sounds like it could be pretty bad mechanical damage. I guess you'll have to disassemble the machine and look for damage
Yes there is surely huge problem so where do I have to look for repair ,when faced with this type of issue lead screw and nut or the bars on which the stone slide moves . Awaiting for ur precious reply . Thanks
I have a 645 as well but mine is slightly old because I only have I oil line to share both wheels and my chuck doesn’t have the leaver on it but I wanted to ask you how do you know what angle your cutting the valve face at ? I can’t find any numbers on the deck or the chuck so I can’t figure out how you know precisely what angle the valve is at ?
Also is your chuck true mine has a wobble so I was wondering if you know where a guy could find used parts that are still in good shape?
Appreciate any help you can give me!
Man, I actually just some my valve grinder to a UA-cam friend who goes by the name of Tall Johns Fun Shop, he expressed a lot interest in it, so I sold it to him. I think I recall my chuck having just a slight amount of wobble, but nothing major, and under my chuck there were engravings for the angles you were cutting at. I would recommend going to check out my buddies channel and pester him about making videos on it. As far as service parts, the only thing I found was oil and belts
@@ScottsSpeedShop Thanks a lot it’s nice to meet decent people that don’t mind taking the time to help someone! Thanks again 😀🇨🇦
You can buy a new starting capacitor at any decent industrial electric supply store.
Stick it to em'
Yeah we used to have an old saw that we started kinda like that; until one of my buddies grabbed it. He now has a very gross thumb nail. We went ahead and fixed it.
That is why I fixed mine
I have this same machine. 645L. Work like new ill take 500 bucks come and get it.
The glove fix was "MINT"
One more machine and you're going to be in a shed out back .lol
lol
The capacitor....
Well this tool ought to make your engine work easier...
your demonstration proves that dads correct.. motors ok.. capacitor is bad
Dear god how many fingers you have left. Can you at least count to nine
I was taught to count 1, 2, and more than 2 lol
Scotts Speed Shop
Roflmfao. Old school there lol