Excellent work as always Nick . Personally i think the use of the term " 2 " is a vast overstatement as this is really just a update on Activisions part ...
Im pretty sure they decided the changes were too big for a 6 year old game to be just an update. I mean, announcing a sequel is gonna generate more hype that an update for a game from 2016. Look at ghost recon breakpoint. They did a massive update, fixing virtually every issue people had with it. But since it took a year to do the update nobody noticed or cared that they actually put in the effort to fix their game. With a sequel you can rebalance all the characters and such. I honestly dont understand why people get so hung up over naming. Its free anyways, you people act like you've been robbed
@@spacedout4061 Haha yeah I remember when fighting game devs would drop a balance update and call it a new game, that would be $40-60 dollars in an already niche genre. I think if OW2 dropped with PVE already in the game there wouldn’t be such pushback
@@Judgementkiryu yeah. Ppl are obsessed with naming. Far cry new dawn is a good example. People complained that it was called a new game because to them it seemed like a dlc. It was 40 bucks and had a full length story with a bunch of side content too
@@spacedout4061 I'm just pointing out that its not really a sequel , that's all . As far as Ghost recon is concerned UBI soft know how to kill their games from day one guaranteed . Cant really blame the public reception for that one.
It's a shame they haven't updated the textures on the original models to be on par with the new ones. Because TBH, some of the original models were much more interesting looking. But their details suffer now.
They'd have to rework them into different kinds of maps since they're scrapping 2 capture points if nothing else they can at least keep them as is for death match but I'd want them in the main pool so it feels like they'd need to make them larger and turn them into payload maps.
Forcing teams down to 1 tank and removing the assault gamemode really doesnt sit right with me. In the original you had the ability to play heros off of each other to create interresting strategies and now every round just becomes a slugfest. The teams individual health pool has also shrunk due to this and just makes you die quicker. As you said teamwipes are far more common now and i dont think thats a good thing.
This just means it was another feature not ready yet and is still a work in progress. They pushed this steaming pile out the door before it was even half done.
Fantastic video. It would’ve been cool to see you comparing the progression system (or lack of in OW2’s case). 32 weeks to earn a single legendary skin..
Well, they had to take a break every 30 minutes for a 3-hour of 'groping and harassing the female employees break time'. It's hard job, if you know what I mean.
I know its the smaller part of the players but overwatch 1 looks really bad in consoles, any console, overwatch 2 looks fucking amazing for us, poor souls console people, first game literally doesent have texture in 50% of everything on consoles, and now looks very very nice
They only started working on PvP around 1 - 1 1/2 years ago. They were focused on PvE from 2019 - early 2021 before focusing on PvP. I'm hoping, PvE releases by the end of the year.
I don't have a source right now, but I remember the OW devs saying that they will allow certain maps (I imagine the OW1 maps) to switch time of day. So the old day Route 66, night li jang etc. will return. I guess this is not implemented yet but they will and it's probably not hard to do. I have no idea when that will happen though.
8:15 My thoughts exactly. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say EVERY map is worse because of the different time of day. Even a map like Ilios in OW2 feels very lonely compared to OW1
The only map I feel they improved on was Gibraltar. The colors of the map really pop now compared to the original. Other than that, it looks like they just used a time-of-day slider on a few maps for the sake of it
I think lijiang tower feels comfy and the new route 66 at night is nicer on the eyes, the old variations are gonna comeback so we will have multiple of them, don't worry.
I honestly didnt mind the updates being branded as Overwatch 2 until I saw rhat they did nothing with the textures of the maps. I think the new models and effects look fantastic, but they really needed to touch up the maps to play it off as a next generation overwatch update.
its literally an engine update and the "2" is there for the PvE. the PvP was ALWAYS meant to be just an update to the existing PvP game. But they didnt want to delay the game till PVE was ready so they released the PvP which IS infact an update to PvP. But that doesn't mean the whole of overwatch 2 including PvE is not worthy of the "2" in the title. Why is this so hard for people to understand jesus.
@@chrismorrison5301 So a whole new pve mode and the overhaul of pvp and going from a boxed to a live service game is not worthy of being a sequel? what is worthy in your eyes for a sequel then? genuinely curious. don't tell me that this could all be added as an update to the game cause everyone and their mother knows that ANY game could technically be updated instead of having a sequel.
@@ashonline77 No its not. There are thousands of sequels that show what a sequel should look like. A few new maps, a few new characters and some PvP changes (it wasn't an overall) don't warrant a two at the end of it. Other games have gone from priced to free to play without claiming it being a sequel. Rocket League one of many examples.
They definitely did right with the character redesigns for the vast majority of them imo. But still, I think the OW1 designs will probably always be more iconic. Since this is a game with a cartoony artstyle it didn't really need graphics update anyway, this type of artstyle doesn't age. I look at TF2 for example, it still looks pretty.
Junkrats remodeled weapon frustrates me, the tire was put there to give the effect that the tires grip was launching the grenade. and the stick shift gave it so much personality
I vaguely remember the devs talking about the reasoning behind OW2, something along the lines of "the implementation of a single-player campaign and rework of a lot of things, they're gonna use a new gameengine", dunno what to make of it
Simple, stick a subtitle on the single-player / co-op stuff and call it a day. People would still understand that the MP game was getting an updated engine and total balance overhaul as well, it just wouldn't be a PR disaster.
@@colbyboucher6391 but that’s the thing, the game runs on the same engine but with some netcode and texture mapping update - just feels like a “sneaky” way to justify a battlepass launch lmao
@@SPISheste I'm fucking tired of people misunderstanding this. Just extend this out to CoD still actually using the Q3A engine because that's where this train of thought leads. Most engine updates would never be noticed by pretty much any player. Do you work in software development? Because I do, and the great question of the job is how to present your boss with changes they'll actually notice because the vast, vast majority of your work is invisible to anybody who doesn't also do your job. The whole structure of projects is shaped by figuring out how to either protect devs from managers who don't think anything's happening, or to have enough "meaningful changes" (which are typically anything but) to present each week that the ignorant bastard doesn't fire you all.
As someone who rarely played overwatch after year 1 because of the stagnant meta and toxic play style based around it this feels like a very different game to me in the sense that it feels way more like overwatch did just after limits on characters were added (only one per team) during the second year
5v5 works so well with how overwatch can be played now. Every person on the team has to be playing their role correctly in order to win and solo carrying is a lot easier
A great sound design change in OW2 is that you can hear your magazine running out of ammo for some heroes like Soldier76 and McCree (this is nonexistent in OW1), which is a nice change that will help in gameplay as it provides more information.
Naaah considering overwatch 2 wasn't planned on having a designated pvp update prior to 9 months ago, they never spoke of putting a box price on this iteration of the game. They did intend to sell the pve content, which they will still most likely put behind a paywall once it releases 2023, but I digress, this early pvp update release masked behind the name Overwatch 2 was never planned to be a purchase. I mean why would they consider it in the first place when that model proved to not allow them to support the game in the long run, something which the f2p battlepass model has proven to do so effectively in all these other games.
Okay I’ve never played Overwatch but I’ve always loved the character design and I’m enjoying the redesigns. The characters still feel like themselves if that makes sense. It strikes the balance of new and old.
i play overwatch, is a fun game, but what really got me into the game and fell in love with it were the characters. the characters helped a lot to stand out with other games
Great video, and you're right.. It really is a mixed bag on the visual side of things. Just a tip though - the new one tank format doesn't necessarily mean that tanks need to play defensively. In fact, it's often the complete opposite. Tanks need to be much more aggressive now, and shouldn't be constantly acting as a wall for the team. Due to the massively increased damage, utility and survivability, a tanks job is usually to flank, or aggressively dive into the backline to take out supports/dps. You are such a disruptive force that your utility and massive damage is wasted acting as a bullet sponge all of the time. Rein can quite easily wipe a team now, Orisa is a complete brawler, and Winston makes it impossible to have a fair teamfight because the supports/squishy dps instantly die even before combat is initiated, and there isn't much the opposing tank can do to save them. The game just feels much more fast paced in its current state, and thankfully the days of shooting shields all match are pretty much over.
I was able to play the ow2 betas and noticed they did a bit of a downgrade in terms of lighting levels/contrast and bloom, also some effects like environment fog have been reduced, not saying it looks horrible now but compared to beta it feels a bit less appealing :/
If what you are saying is true, then it is good, more player with lesser powerful rig can enjoy OW2 too. More player > video cosmetics that 90% of the time you won't notice either especially in a fast paced shooter like this
@@samuelmahesa8045 lmao, as if designing a game for high end PCs is a smart business move....it's almost as bad as designing a IP solely around phones.... oh wait same company did this....activision blizzard
As someone who has played consistently since the original launch day of Overwatch 1, Overwatch "2" is better only because new content is being added again. I will save most of my judgement for the PVE content, you know, the actual part of the game that will make it a sequel.
I don't know how I feel about overwatch 2. On one hand I think the visuals are good and bad like the shadows which this video showcased and on the other hand I think the gameplay is better. One thing I know for sure, is that this game feels like an enhancement rather then a complete change which most of the time sequels do.
The comparison of character and especially weapon models left me with impression that the original was made by a master and was "updated" by an amateur.
I think that the Genji change is great. If u think about it, Genji was technically naked. This new design is showing his growth, from believing he has accepted what he is, as he said in "Dragons", to now, where his design reflects that acceptance. He is choosing to wear clothes now, meaning he accepts his new body fully, and sees himself as naked without clothes. That's my theory at least
A small feature most wouldnt notice as not everyone has the skin but pink mercys hesking and damage beams dont seem to havr the pinke effect in the centre due to the nee effects mercys staff has
Never played the first game and I like 2 so far. The fast placed gunplay and movement reminds me og multiplayer fps games like Unreal Tournament and games.
So they basically just re-released overwatch with new updates, this is basically like if Riot released a "New" League of Legends every season. "Oh new season comes! Can't wait for League of Legends 12"
I understand where you're coming from with the Lighting and time of day. But as someone that has been playing since the first beta half a decade ago I'm extremely grateful for the new changes in day/night. A cycle would be super epic, like always something else or, depending where you live something else. Or with updates omg imagine? One season it's like this and the next one it's back to normal. Missed opportunity there. It's very sad they just disappeared like that but I'm sure that they'll be back.
I’m gonna have to push back on what you said at the beginning of the video. The updated skins with all the new lights, scratches, and moving pieces do not give these skins a “modern” look. The new skins are messy compared to their iconic predecessors. So many characters now have random bolts, screws, plates, and other greebles that they just become over-designed. Less is more in this situation and I truly think that the new designs suffer from this
@@adriantrusca1245 Relax, it's still the first game but they updated the engine, made it F2P (and P2W) and are planning on adding new content (both free and overpriced).
I'd say it's a moderate step forward in fidelity at best, High end graphics cards would be capable of FAR more detail than that we're seeing in the new models and maps.
My biggest issue with sound is that the sound stage is severely underdeveloped. You can hardly hear vital information anymore and its all muddled together. Also, the weapon sounds are SOO god damn loud :( The old weapon sounds were like verifiers that you were firing. The new sounds are ear shattering booms, and you cant tweak it at all. The original had its flaws, but it came out pretty much finished. OW2 screams incomplete. A good example is the ''Recent players'' tab where the name plates are placed on top of eachother. At best id call it another beta.
I just got what is messed up! Its based on proximity purely, whereas the OW1 version was ''counter based'', meaning that your hard counter was supposed to be louder. The new version however doesnt take into account the proximity to yourself, which means that the closest sound, aka you, becomes unfiltered which leads to an earshattering experience, and deaf when it comes to enemy sounds.
Great comparison! Although while the characters are now higher rez, their apearance is less coherent with themselves and the universe of overwatch. It looks like restyling just for the sake of restyliing. Would be nice if they simply update the textures rez of the older skins.
1:05 - Sounds to me that you needed to get your eyes checked because no WAY were those older models that muddy or “low rez”! Maybe if played in the Switch it would look that way but I’ve played that original game on PS4 Pro PS5 AND Xbox One X, and they all looked as good as they were played on OG PS4 consoles on day one! You crazy, dude!
Open up the game on a PC (4K, ultra settings) and go to the overwatch 1 skin for Moira. Look at her hands. Then come back here and tell me to get my eyes checked.
With the PVE officially cancelled this game really has nothing to justify why it is a sequel to a original. it's as you said "An large update", there's truly not much at all that seperates this from OW1. It's literally the same game with character buff/nerfs, some additional game modes, quality of life fixes, higher quality models and sounds. Honestly feels similar to what apex legends did for the previous season, where they overhaul a lot of things to make the game be in a better state. The difference being they didn't try make a sequel of it.
They will be brought back, actually they should have been there since launch and they already showed a bunch of variations that are not in the game yet for some reason.
Excellent work Nick! This game seems to be actually worse than the first one, regression. I don't understand how they managed to do that...? How long time did they spend on this game, 5 years? LOL.
Yes. Though I ended up using Overwatch 2's "Overwatch 1" skins for the model comparisons because they were identical in everyway to the footage I had captured of OW1, only with matching animations and backgrounds.
Tanks don't play more defensively, in myexperience.. because they sorta cant.. You have to be a lot more aggressive now, attacking if only because you cant just stand around feeding enemy ults. Even Reinhard is encouraged to be more aggressive (2 fire strike charges) even though he still has a shield.
Am i blinded by nostalgia? because I really prefer OW 1 graphics. I must admit that the graphics now are way better but the entire style of overwatch 1 just appealed to me way more than the current style.
Also don't know if you noticed but SMAA High never actually turns on in Overwatch 2. You can set it, but it's always back on medium as soon as you leave the menu.
I liked a lot of the new gun sounds, though I think I liked the original for Pharah better, with it's more noticeable loud crack at the start of the attack
Some characters you better (like Zarya, Mei or Tracer) and some look worser (like Moira, Ana and Mercy) generally I see more prominent black and smoother/more detailed hair with more beards which is a good thing. But it’s still strange and why they didn’t at least go with the fans feedback and what they would like to change or stay. Why no poll instead of so many random changes. (About especially widow I am very conflicted cause she looks more badass in 2 but her 1 look is more iconic and sexy in my opinion)
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I‘m sure all the “sfm artists“ can appreciate the changes and updates
ahahah thanks mate, made my day
What sfm mean?
@@spartan_a1176 Source Film Maker
as a "sfm art" enjoyer , i do hope the quality of art improve too
maybe, but the veteran "artists" won't give two shits when they're making "art" that looks a million times better then both OW games combined lmao.
Excellent work as always Nick . Personally i think the use of the term " 2 " is a vast overstatement as this is really just a update on Activisions part ...
Should be called Overwatch 2.0 to make it seem it's just an update
Im pretty sure they decided the changes were too big for a 6 year old game to be just an update. I mean, announcing a sequel is gonna generate more hype that an update for a game from 2016. Look at ghost recon breakpoint. They did a massive update, fixing virtually every issue people had with it. But since it took a year to do the update nobody noticed or cared that they actually put in the effort to fix their game. With a sequel you can rebalance all the characters and such. I honestly dont understand why people get so hung up over naming. Its free anyways, you people act like you've been robbed
@@spacedout4061 Haha yeah I remember when fighting game devs would drop a balance update and call it a new game, that would be $40-60 dollars in an already niche genre. I think if OW2 dropped with PVE already in the game there wouldn’t be such pushback
@@Judgementkiryu yeah. Ppl are obsessed with naming. Far cry new dawn is a good example. People complained that it was called a new game because to them it seemed like a dlc. It was 40 bucks and had a full length story with a bunch of side content too
@@spacedout4061 I'm just pointing out that its not really a sequel , that's all . As far as Ghost recon is concerned UBI soft know how to kill their games from day one guaranteed . Cant really blame the public reception for that one.
It's a shame they haven't updated the textures on the original models to be on par with the new ones. Because TBH, some of the original models were much more interesting looking. But their details suffer now.
New models look generic, just giving them more lights and pretty textures. Genji just looks like a goofy goober. They also gave roadhog a mowhawk??
@@theonewophmawermewoopsadsa9657 why are u out of your cage? Go back
Too true, this was a huge disappointment indeed, I was particularly expecting for graphical upgrades for old skins of Ana and Widowmaker.
@2freeIvX ya they had _years_ of time to make this an actual sequel but just gave a free dlc pack
@@theonewophmawermewoopsadsa9657 I really like the dva remodel tbh no specific reason though 🤨 📸
Overwatch “2”.
Overwatch too
Overwatch as well
OW2 looks like a mod that just enhances the textures and models
Overwatch also
Overwatch furthermore
I really like that the characters talk to each other while playing
Yeah
@@BakangPrivv Noone said they didnt
That was in the first game as well. But yea it's a cool moment that gives you some character lore while waiting to start.
@@BlakrystalHaze noone said it matters. Get over yourself, you look like you work at a vape shop.
@@BlakrystalHaze he meant apex does it better.
ive seen remastered versions with more differences than this "second" installement
Overwatch remastered looks great.
You mean the characters do
This mod is amazing
It does not.
now with more loading screen, perfect to go and walk at the park
It’s not even close
I really hope all the maps that were taken out are all gonna come back... Hanamura and anubis are my favorite
Did they say why they took them out ?
They were removed because that game mode was removed. The two attack point game mode is gone
There still in the game in custom games
They'd have to rework them into different kinds of maps since they're scrapping 2 capture points if nothing else they can at least keep them as is for death match but I'd want them in the main pool so it feels like they'd need to make them larger and turn them into payload maps.
@@Creed5.56 that sucks that was my favorite mode
I already miss the Assault maps lol especially Anubis, Hanamura and Volskaya… those maps have a special place in my heart
but in a competitive situation they arent great... otherwise i agree!
Yep. They took out some of the best maps in the game.
Dude, those were some of the most infuriating maps to play on.
"They're the same image" The Game
Forcing teams down to 1 tank and removing the assault gamemode really doesnt sit right with me. In the original you had the ability to play heros off of each other to create interresting strategies and now every round just becomes a slugfest. The teams individual health pool has also shrunk due to this and just makes you die quicker. As you said teamwipes are far more common now and i dont think thats a good thing.
I believe it was confirmed that a time of day cycle would be coming for the maps, or at least multiple times of day available eventually
This just means it was another feature not ready yet and is still a work in progress. They pushed this steaming pile out the door before it was even half done.
I wish they could've stayed separate games. There's much I miss in OW1
naaah ow2 is better by far
@@Solkian66619lol what a good joke
Fantastic video. It would’ve been cool to see you comparing the progression system (or lack of in OW2’s case). 32 weeks to earn a single legendary skin..
I'm realizing you must have captured all these in OW1 in preparation for this vid, tremendous work
i feel like the audio for the physical projectile weapons was better in OW1, but the audio for energy based weapons is better in OW2
Old soldier, old bastion, old sombra, old Orisa weapons sounded better
Cant believe this took so many years lol
Well, they had to take a break every 30 minutes for a 3-hour of 'groping and harassing the female employees break time'.
It's hard job, if you know what I mean.
I know its the smaller part of the players but overwatch 1 looks really bad in consoles, any console, overwatch 2 looks fucking amazing for us, poor souls console people, first game literally doesent have texture in 50% of everything on consoles, and now looks very very nice
They only started working on PvP around 1 - 1 1/2 years ago. They were focused on PvE from 2019 - early 2021 before focusing on PvP. I'm hoping, PvE releases by the end of the year.
Yeah like 90% of the time was spent on pve
they spent a little over a year on this. pve is the main part of ow2. i dont think they would call this ow2 if pvp was the entire thing...
I don't have a source right now, but I remember the OW devs saying that they will allow certain maps (I imagine the OW1 maps) to switch time of day. So the old day Route 66, night li jang etc. will return. I guess this is not implemented yet but they will and it's probably not hard to do. I have no idea when that will happen though.
Yeah they said that
Im pretty sure they said it’ll be added post launch, and in pve there’s even going to be dynamic weather, which should be interesting
Anyone have a source?
@@emergency.jergens blizzconline 2021 overwatch show
likely gonna be added with some of the seasons
8:15 My thoughts exactly. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say EVERY map is worse because of the different time of day. Even a map like Ilios in OW2 feels very lonely compared to OW1
The only map I feel they improved on was Gibraltar. The colors of the map really pop now compared to the original. Other than that, it looks like they just used a time-of-day slider on a few maps for the sake of it
@@mattkroening7964 I'll agree with Gibraltar, it does feel more lively than before
I think lijiang tower feels comfy and the new route 66 at night is nicer on the eyes, the old variations are gonna comeback so we will have multiple of them, don't worry.
Now we know why Jeff left.
Gonna give a hot take...the majority of Overwatch 2.0 skins are downgrades design wise or just uninspired. Mcree's old skin is simply better.
Not even a hot take...just true
Bro they gave roadhog a mowhawk??? The new skins is just generic
Both games suck. Now get out.
The new Genji skin looks like a joke.
Ice-cold take.
“It just seemed like a really needless change.”
Sums up Overwatch 2 in its entirety tbh
I honestly didnt mind the updates being branded as Overwatch 2 until I saw rhat they did nothing with the textures of the maps. I think the new models and effects look fantastic, but they really needed to touch up the maps to play it off as a next generation overwatch update.
This isn't a sequel, it's a content update.
no its a graphics update
its literally an engine update and the "2" is there for the PvE. the PvP was ALWAYS meant to be just an update to the existing PvP game. But they didnt want to delay the game till PVE was ready so they released the PvP which IS infact an update to PvP. But that doesn't mean the whole of overwatch 2 including PvE is not worthy of the "2" in the title. Why is this so hard for people to understand jesus.
@@ashonline77 It's not worthy of the two, I'm well aware of what you just stated and its not a sequel. Not even close.
@@chrismorrison5301 So a whole new pve mode and the overhaul of pvp and going from a boxed to a live service game is not worthy of being a sequel? what is worthy in your eyes for a sequel then? genuinely curious. don't tell me that this could all be added as an update to the game cause everyone and their mother knows that ANY game could technically be updated instead of having a sequel.
@@ashonline77 No its not. There are thousands of sequels that show what a sequel should look like.
A few new maps, a few new characters and some PvP changes (it wasn't an overall) don't warrant a two at the end of it. Other games have gone from priced to free to play without claiming it being a sequel. Rocket League one of many examples.
They definitely did right with the character redesigns for the vast majority of them imo. But still, I think the OW1 designs will probably always be more iconic.
Since this is a game with a cartoony artstyle it didn't really need graphics update anyway, this type of artstyle doesn't age. I look at TF2 for example, it still looks pretty.
Great video, helps clear things up since I really wasn’t sure what was changed or not
It took 6 years for this shit
@@alexcasari949 the game was anounced 2 years ago
and it was also made over covid, and through the blizzard activision lawsuits?
@@toasty7685 doesn't justify that it was just a quick cash grab over their most popular IP, it's a disappointment for a sequel
@@toasty7685 "announced"
The actual planning and development took more time for sure
@@rahularora301 cash grab? Mates its free
Junkrats remodeled weapon frustrates me, the tire was put there to give the effect that the tires grip was launching the grenade. and the stick shift gave it so much personality
Impress that you were able to queue into the game to even look at the game. Very cool Nick.
I have been playing since thursday without issues.
@@Shikaar cool
i dont think there are much server problems at all now. major issues was the first 2-3 days...
@@Cryoptic_ go on the forums. Many people are still getting 208 error and haven’t played
I like what genji wearing clothes means for his character tho. It means he finally accepts himself/ his body to style himself
I think he looks better I love how he looked but now he looks badass
@ trueee
I vaguely remember the devs talking about the reasoning behind OW2, something along the lines of "the implementation of a single-player campaign and rework of a lot of things, they're gonna use a new gameengine", dunno what to make of it
Simple, stick a subtitle on the single-player / co-op stuff and call it a day. People would still understand that the MP game was getting an updated engine and total balance overhaul as well, it just wouldn't be a PR disaster.
@@colbyboucher6391 but that’s the thing, the game runs on the same engine but with some netcode and texture mapping update - just feels like a “sneaky” way to justify a battlepass launch lmao
@@SPISheste I'm fucking tired of people misunderstanding this. Just extend this out to CoD still actually using the Q3A engine because that's where this train of thought leads.
Most engine updates would never be noticed by pretty much any player. Do you work in software development? Because I do, and the great question of the job is how to present your boss with changes they'll actually notice because the vast, vast majority of your work is invisible to anybody who doesn't also do your job. The whole structure of projects is shaped by figuring out how to either protect devs from managers who don't think anything's happening, or to have enough "meaningful changes" (which are typically anything but) to present each week that the ignorant bastard doesn't fire you all.
@@colbyboucher6391 aight cool thanks
So much work on this video! THANKS
As someone who rarely played overwatch after year 1 because of the stagnant meta and toxic play style based around it this feels like a very different game to me in the sense that it feels way more like overwatch did just after limits on characters were added (only one per team) during the second year
5v5 works so well with how overwatch can be played now. Every person on the team has to be playing their role correctly in order to win and solo carrying is a lot easier
A great sound design change in OW2 is that you can hear your magazine running out of ammo for some heroes like Soldier76 and McCree (this is nonexistent in OW1), which is a nice change that will help in gameplay as it provides more information.
3 comparisons in 10 days ? You’ve been working hard lately
and its crazy that originally they were going to charge you for this. Its literally an update
An actual scam, it's literally an update, but packaged as a different game
Were they?
@@bhaveshghanta369 yep. But it got a ton of backlash because as you can see it's literally overwatch 1
@@ladiesmahn217 This probably would've have a Battlefront 2/Battlefield 2042 type situation hadthey not made it free-to-play. Thank god
Naaah considering overwatch 2 wasn't planned on having a designated pvp update prior to 9 months ago, they never spoke of putting a box price on this iteration of the game. They did intend to sell the pve content, which they will still most likely put behind a paywall once it releases 2023, but I digress, this early pvp update release masked behind the name Overwatch 2 was never planned to be a purchase. I mean why would they consider it in the first place when that model proved to not allow them to support the game in the long run, something which the f2p battlepass model has proven to do so effectively in all these other games.
This could’ve just made Overwatch F2P, but Blizzard wanted to relaunch the series to boost popularity with this “sequel”
Okay I’ve never played Overwatch but I’ve always loved the character design and I’m enjoying the redesigns. The characters still feel like themselves if that makes sense. It strikes the balance of new and old.
i play overwatch, is a fun game, but what really got me into the game and fell in love with it were the characters. the characters helped a lot to stand out with other games
really hope that CP2 maps comeback, either reworked to fit other modes, or as a new mode
Great video, and you're right.. It really is a mixed bag on the visual side of things. Just a tip though - the new one tank format doesn't necessarily mean that tanks need to play defensively. In fact, it's often the complete opposite. Tanks need to be much more aggressive now, and shouldn't be constantly acting as a wall for the team. Due to the massively increased damage, utility and survivability, a tanks job is usually to flank, or aggressively dive into the backline to take out supports/dps. You are such a disruptive force that your utility and massive damage is wasted acting as a bullet sponge all of the time. Rein can quite easily wipe a team now, Orisa is a complete brawler, and Winston makes it impossible to have a fair teamfight because the supports/squishy dps instantly die even before combat is initiated, and there isn't much the opposing tank can do to save them. The game just feels much more fast paced in its current state, and thankfully the days of shooting shields all match are pretty much over.
I was able to play the ow2 betas and noticed they did a bit of a downgrade in terms of lighting levels/contrast and bloom, also some effects like environment fog have been reduced, not saying it looks horrible now but compared to beta it feels a bit less appealing :/
If what you are saying is true, then it is good, more player with lesser powerful rig can enjoy OW2 too. More player > video cosmetics that 90% of the time you won't notice either especially in a fast paced shooter like this
@@samuelmahesa8045 mate %90 of the time ppl won't see these graphics changes, in that case it was easier to run ow1
@@samuelmahesa8045 lmao, as if designing a game for high end PCs is a smart business move....it's almost as bad as designing a IP solely around phones.... oh wait same company did this....activision blizzard
As someone who has played consistently since the original launch day of Overwatch 1, Overwatch "2" is better only because new content is being added again. I will save most of my judgement for the PVE content, you know, the actual part of the game that will make it a sequel.
I don't know how I feel about overwatch 2. On one hand I think the visuals are good and bad like the shadows which this video showcased and on the other hand I think the gameplay is better. One thing I know for sure, is that this game feels like an enhancement rather then a complete change which most of the time sequels do.
Makes one wonder what they’ve actually been doing with all that time.
PVE
@@IgorJCorrea and they didn’t even do that until years later. The results sucked.
Nice comparison!
The comparison of character and especially weapon models left me with impression that the original was made by a master and was "updated" by an amateur.
Pretty much. RIP Jeff.
0:07 well as you can see the top of the logo has an oranger color and there is a 2
So basically Overwatch 2 is a reskin
If it were reskinned, then it would at least appear visually different. ;D
@@arandompasserby7940 Just justify it by calling it Overwatch 1.5
@@SpiritofFireMrVader more like Overwatch patch 1.5
And free now
A "Early Access" remake.
At least on the Switch, it’s a lot more stable and smoother. They fixed gyro controls too, feels wayyyyy better.
I got really burnout on Overwatch. I don't think the changes that they made to Overwatch 2 will change how I feel about the game
Give it a try, its free
Nobody asked or cares
@@gamerbeast3616 Likewise?
Regardless, what’s your point here? It’s a public comment section. We don’t go around ASKING each other to comment. 😂
@@gamerbeast3616
I care
@@gamerbeast3616 I also care.
I think that the Genji change is great. If u think about it, Genji was technically naked. This new design is showing his growth, from believing he has accepted what he is, as he said in "Dragons", to now, where his design reflects that acceptance. He is choosing to wear clothes now, meaning he accepts his new body fully, and sees himself as naked without clothes. That's my theory at least
yet wearing clothes makes no sense imo, they just get in the way and don’t add anything except for the sake of making a change
A small feature most wouldnt notice as not everyone has the skin but pink mercys hesking and damage beams dont seem to havr the pinke effect in the centre due to the nee effects mercys staff has
4:00 Save the manuals.
"Overwatch: Give Us More Money Edition"
the fact that we cant play overwatch 1 anymore even if we wanted to makes me happy that i dropped overwatch and got back on team fortress 2
I haven't played overwatch since the original beta so playing the new game for free has been fun
While these detail upgrades are nice to see I don't think it justifies calling OW 2 a sequel, more like a 1.5 patch
Never played the first game and I like 2 so far.
The fast placed gunplay and movement reminds me og multiplayer fps games like Unreal Tournament and games.
So they basically just re-released overwatch with new updates, this is basically like if Riot released a "New" League of Legends every season.
"Oh new season comes! Can't wait for League of Legends 12"
I understand where you're coming from with the Lighting and time of day. But as someone that has been playing since the first beta half a decade ago I'm extremely grateful for the new changes in day/night. A cycle would be super epic, like always something else or, depending where you live something else. Or with updates omg imagine? One season it's like this and the next one it's back to normal. Missed opportunity there. It's very sad they just disappeared like that but I'm sure that they'll be back.
I’m gonna have to push back on what you said at the beginning of the video. The updated skins with all the new lights, scratches, and moving pieces do not give these skins a “modern” look. The new skins are messy compared to their iconic predecessors. So many characters now have random bolts, screws, plates, and other greebles that they just become over-designed. Less is more in this situation and I truly think that the new designs suffer from this
This guy's right on everything he said ._.
So much effort in this video. Great work man
Agree, Genji wearing sweatshirt in cyborg form is weird AF
This "sequel" should have just been an expansion to Overwatch
Indeed.
Had no idea they made a sequel to this! Never played the first one, but might try the second one
Calling it a sequel is a generous statement, this is a glorified update.
I also never played the first one but I have played the 2nd one for a couple of hours and in all honesty, I'm absolutely loving it!
If you play the "second" game, you're playing the first game with better textures
Why? Why do people do this? Not playing a series, then starting with the sequel. It's just weird.
@@adriantrusca1245 Relax, it's still the first game but they updated the engine, made it F2P (and P2W) and are planning on adding new content (both free and overpriced).
I'd say it's a moderate step forward in fidelity at best, High end graphics cards would be capable of FAR more detail than that we're seeing in the new models and maps.
My biggest issue with sound is that the sound stage is severely underdeveloped. You can hardly hear vital information anymore and its all muddled together. Also, the weapon sounds are SOO god damn loud :( The old weapon sounds were like verifiers that you were firing. The new sounds are ear shattering booms, and you cant tweak it at all.
The original had its flaws, but it came out pretty much finished. OW2 screams incomplete. A good example is the ''Recent players'' tab where the name plates are placed on top of eachother. At best id call it another beta.
I think it can be improved but footsteps are so much better, for some reason it felt like it got worse as time went on in ow1, now it's really good.
I just got what is messed up! Its based on proximity purely, whereas the OW1 version was ''counter based'', meaning that your hard counter was supposed to be louder. The new version however doesnt take into account the proximity to yourself, which means that the closest sound, aka you, becomes unfiltered which leads to an earshattering experience, and deaf when it comes to enemy sounds.
Game is not incomplete idiot
When you make the graphic settings low, the characters revert back to overwatch 1
Great comparison!
Although while the characters are now higher rez, their apearance is less coherent with themselves and the universe of overwatch.
It looks like restyling just for the sake of restyliing. Would be nice if they simply update the textures rez of the older skins.
1:05 - Sounds to me that you needed to get your eyes checked because no WAY were those older models that muddy or “low rez”!
Maybe if played in the Switch it would look that way but I’ve played that original game on PS4 Pro PS5 AND Xbox One X, and they all looked as good as they were played on OG PS4 consoles on day one! You crazy, dude!
Open up the game on a PC (4K, ultra settings) and go to the overwatch 1 skin for Moira.
Look at her hands.
Then come back here and tell me to get my eyes checked.
Those character updates would have been much more significant if 3rd person mode was available.
How could it be playable??
@@bonsoircestmoi.348 Normally... Because you know... third person games actually do exist.
With the PVE officially cancelled this game really has nothing to justify why it is a sequel to a original. it's as you said "An large update", there's truly not much at all that seperates this from OW1. It's literally the same game with character buff/nerfs, some additional game modes, quality of life fixes, higher quality models and sounds.
Honestly feels similar to what apex legends did for the previous season, where they overhaul a lot of things to make the game be in a better state. The difference being they didn't try make a sequel of it.
Overwatch expanded and enhanced 🥸
listening on full range monitors, the sound work is amazing. the reverb and thump of the gunshots are a lot less tinny.
Please dont forget that Rialto and Havana are not available outside of custom games. The shadow problems you described are probably being worked on.
Kinda baffling to me they removed the original day times for the maps, this would have been such an easy way to have even more map variety.
They will be brought back, actually they should have been there since launch and they already showed a bunch of variations that are not in the game yet for some reason.
Excellent work Nick! This game seems to be actually worse than the first one, regression. I don't understand how they managed to do that...? How long time did they spend on this game, 5 years? LOL.
imo HDR does make the effects colors look more vibrant
Did you record the footage of Overwatch 1 before it was replaced by Overwatch 2?
Yes. Though I ended up using Overwatch 2's "Overwatch 1" skins for the model comparisons because they were identical in everyway to the footage I had captured of OW1, only with matching animations and backgrounds.
@@Nick930 Alright😊
Tanks don't play more defensively, in myexperience.. because they sorta cant.. You have to be a lot more aggressive now, attacking if only because you cant just stand around feeding enemy ults.
Even Reinhard is encouraged to be more aggressive (2 fire strike charges) even though he still has a shield.
Am i blinded by nostalgia? because I really prefer OW 1 graphics. I must admit that the graphics now are way better but the entire style of overwatch 1 just appealed to me way more than the current style.
it seems to me like OW1 have more micro details on cloths etc than oversimplified OV2
So everything is literally the same or worse… got it
Also don't know if you noticed but SMAA High never actually turns on in Overwatch 2. You can set it, but it's always back on medium as soon as you leave the menu.
LOL they removed 3 of my favorite maps .... yeah screw that...
I miss the 2CP maps, not the game mode. I do hope they bring those maps back in some way like escort or control.
I don't know how they did it but the game seems to run smoother and snappier while looking slightly better and more frame rates!
my graphics are alwas at minimum so i didnt even know something changed
I liked a lot of the new gun sounds, though I think I liked the original for Pharah better, with it's more noticeable loud crack at the start of the attack
New hero details and models excellent.Need more detailed maps and object textures.
lol "much higher fidelity"
It is tho
Great video! So wait the time of day changes on these maps is permanent!? What a shame :( Oh my gosh. The originally night maps I will miss greatly.
At least Overwatch 2 is free to play. That's the biggest upgrade for me
Some characters you better (like Zarya, Mei or Tracer) and some look worser (like Moira, Ana and Mercy) generally I see more prominent black and smoother/more detailed hair with more beards which is a good thing. But it’s still strange and why they didn’t at least go with the fans feedback and what they would like to change or stay. Why no poll instead of so many random changes.
(About especially widow I am very conflicted cause she looks more badass in 2 but her 1 look is more iconic and sexy in my opinion)
took them almost 3 years to add 3 new heroes and remake the models
I can't even get past the phone number verification let alone the player queue.
man just said OW has a massive roster 💀
I personally like how similar the games are, feels fresh without having to learn everything from scratch.
thanks for your work dude.. seems like a lot of content reviewing xD